Another interesting kyc-less service for swapping is 4swap.org / mixin app

I like that it lets me transform MOB into XMR quickly (for when people send me payments via signal)

I thought it could be interesting for those wondering how to swap the mob shitcoin into xmr without kyc

hm.. seems interesting

im not sure i like the browser wallet, but the other option to connect a wallet i will explore.

It isn't in the browser. It needs to authorize the payment via mixin app. The browser is just the UI for the swaps.

You have to scan with your cellphone to authorize the swap. It's pretty neat actually

libre[m]: I meant that upon clicking "Connect Wallet" I am presented with 2 options. Mixin Messenger and Fennec

Fennec says it is a Mixin Network Browser Wallet.

Oh I see. I just use it with the mixin app

Yeah that seems to be the way to go, Id be weary of cookies stored in my browser and the browser wallet having access to them

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wow this guys bought a radio frequencies scanner and found bio tech in his body youtube.com/watch?v=E1ZqRhe4lZE

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The balance of the General Funds BTC wallet is almost at 10k$ blockchain.com/btc/address/1KTexdemPdxSBcG55heUuTjDRYqbC5ZL8H

monero is a stablecoin

😆

*Monero is a stable money maker shorting*

i collect xmr like pokémon

this is more important then marketcap

208 merchants?

<jwinterm[m]> "208 merchants?" <- 210 now

adamantium[m]: That seems so low, especially for bitcoin, that the site should just be ignored as unreliable

what are you talking about... this site is promoted by getmonero.org

* site is being promoted by

someone should make an api that pulls number of monero-accepting vendors and from each dnm 🙃

looking at plowsof

Are the 'dnm' stores not open source btw?

crypto_grampy[m]: Some kind of tor site scraper hm 👍️

my grandson told me one of the ones he visited listed number of merchants

there are a few listing aggregator sites as well on dark.fail

maybe create a monero bounty for dnm metrics :)

<adamantium[m]> "what are you talking about..." <- You think there are only 700 merchants that accept btc?

That's so low it makes everything on that site meaningless

Bitpay alone services over 10000 merchants and probably almost everyone of them accepts btc

cryptwerk.com/pay-with/xmr lists 1200 for Monero lol

SOmething is off about acceptedhere.io.

Every merchant in El Salvador is forced to accept BTC by law now, assuming they are technically capable of doing so.

cryptwerk.com/coins seems much more accurate

they don't even have wownero listed on the top 5. unbelievable.

sethsimmons: lol, somethings off for sure then

Hi guys

Do you know something about privacy in NFTs?

That's the FBI's direct take on what can be gathered. I have my doubts that the NSA/CIA can't gather more than that. Wouldn't be much of a secret if a training doc reveals the full power of inter-governmental reach. Good to know low level FBI do not have access to more info though.

i dont trust all those messengers anyway

either xmpp, matrix as federated software

or session or briar lokinet/tor based

briar is energy hungry though

Monero should go through a network upgrade soon, which means a hard fork. Previously there were external audits done in the new cryptography being implemented in the code. Are we not having external audits this time because no new cryptography is being implemented? Is there any value in hiring external code reviewers to review the changes being implemented or it wouldn't make sense because these code reviewers would need to be

intimate with the code base to provide value?

bitlamas[m]: I would donate to a ccs which has a full code audit

bitlamas[m]: An audit is certainly not necessary (beyond the already completed BP+ audits), but can never hurt if funded and not too straining on community funds.

BP+ audit is here: suyash67.github.io/homepage/assets/…etproofs_plus_audit_report_v1.1.pdf

I honestly don't have experience in open source development so I'm unaware on how these would proceed. I do know that monero has a good number of contributors but at the same time, by just lurking around here and reading the dev meetings, it seems that sometimes we lack people who could review the code changes. So I was wondering what could be done to improve on that front.

<adamantium[m]> "i dont trust all those messenger..." <- i use signal and its pretty good, its also easy to get people to use it. the main challenge is getting clients/friends/etc to use the app you want then to use.

Need to pull in more devs that are capable of code reviews via word of mouth and other recruiting efforts 🙂

Paid audits are not really necessary for minor changes, but more PR reviews is always a win.

We should have bug bounty program before each release

unscottable[m]: im using it too but they want to implwment mobilecoin which is a centralized xmr fork

Monero is kinda unique in the sense that the protocol is being actively developed, in contrast with ossified bitcoin for example. That is a plus in the sense of having new, better technology, but it also brings the possibility of introducing new bugs. Wouldn't the project benefit of having some 'informal' audit/code review process before network upgrades?

Well, I guess even if hard forks are required these changes could still be classified as "minor".

i would prefer session over signal

Bitcoin has Bitcoin Improvement Proposals (BIPs) which have their own procedure, and there is also come kind of PR review club I remember hearing about

nikg83[m]: There are a lot of things we should have -- but someone has to step up to actually do these things

Some kind*

nikg83[m]: Does the Vulnerability Response Process count as a bug bounty program?

bitlamas[m]: Every code merge undergoes review by multiple non-author devs.

And TMK every HF has included audits on the critical pieces being changed (like the upcoming inclusion of BP+).

In essence, every merge of code undergoes informal reviews before merging, but we don't do paid audits for every merge, of course.

Yes, every merge is reviewed. My point is that it's usually done by the same people, and there are not necessarily that many people who can properly do it. So I was wondering what possible actions other than reading a C++ book and becoming a good developer one could do to improve on this.

Both are good semi-formalizations of the process but it would be a bog effort to get either one up and running and sustain engagement from people with competency+time

Rucknium[m]: Yes, but not in the sense he was meaning I would think.

A bug hunt or hackathon would be great to have regularly.

carrington[m]: Something on my backlog (and that will be priority if I seek to work on Monero full-time) would be the implementation of a Monero Improvement Protocol pulling in bits and pieces from EIP/BIP approaches.

Although maybe BIPs are not a good thing to emulate seeing as BTC has mostly stagnated

MIPs would be a great addition and helpful in standardizing our approach to large changes and new features.

bitlamas[m]: Find devs to pull in to Monero, and convince them to use CCS for funding if necessary.

<carrington[m]> "Although maybe BIPs are not a..." <- BCH has CHIPs and it's not stagnating. See bitcoincashresearch.org , where most CHIPs are posted.

Seth For Privacy: And researchers: reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/pkg3d6…ero_project_should_actively_recruit

<sethsimmons> "A bug hunt or hackathon would be..." <- Yah a hackathon would be nice

We might even get more devs through this