hey guys, should be a bit more aware of twitter and shadowbanning about xmr. lot of people paying musk to only get disrupted lol, be more intelligent pelase

<absinthium:4d2.org> rty567: ;3

<absinthium:4d2.org> I won't say who you are but hi

<4rkal> cyphergoat.com/this-week-in-monero/issue-38

<gentlemoose:matrix.org> Hey guys. For most of you it is probably intuitive but I'll share just in case somebody hasn't thought of this. As I'm starting to help people around sovereignty, recently a dude asked me how to acquire xmr as cex are now limited, he wanted to sell kyc btc p2p. Beware, kyc btc is a ticking time bomb of compliance and taxes and [... too long, see mrelay.p2pool.observer/e/t6C_3KcLTGctSHV1 ]

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> i tend to see it as "not my problem", but yes, your kyc btc can end up in the hands of a bad party

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> which makes authorities think you are the one who made those transfers. but i dont subscribe to such

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> id tell the feds straight up that my only use for btc is to acquire xmr. and that nothing that happens beyoone the first hop has anyhting to do ith me

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> i would never spend btc on anything except for xmr

<gentlemoose:matrix.org> Yes, but it is not about assumptions. Vs door knock you have only I sold for xmr. You have no proof whatsoever

<gentlemoose:matrix.org> Link ends at your address

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Community meeting in 1 hour: monero-project/meta #1453

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> @gentlemoose:matrix.org: yes i do? i can easil prove that i send btc and received xmr at the same time on the same day

<gentlemoose:matrix.org> Of course, but it is not exactly a cold proof

<gentlemoose:matrix.org> It may be you to you

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> whats the word for this

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> concern trolling

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> fear porn

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> if you think providing your identity to strangers is better than kyc, than youve never heard of a sting

<gentlemoose:matrix.org> Nah haha. I hope nobody gets to there but knowing where we are heading someday for someone it may occur. I'm just sharing.

<gentlemoose:matrix.org> My favourite internet thing when I try to help people it comes to what I don't know and trolling or fud hahah. Okay player. You win

Meeting time: monero-project/meta #1453

<syntheticbird> Hello

<sneedlewoods_xmr:matrix.org> Hey

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> Hello

hi bird, mr woods, slowbear

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> I hope yall doing well

likewise. time runs fast, i thought it was still thursday

3. community highlights

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> ofrnxmr: Wait, you mean today is not Tuesday? crazy

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> we should touch some grass

cyphergoat put out a This Week in Monero post today: cyphergoat.com/this-week-in-monero

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> Good to see some proposals flowing

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> as is the norm in basicswap, we like to pre-announce-pre-announcements

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> so id like to say that there are some QoL UX changes coming soon

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> namely a new bidding experience

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> gamechanger for monero dexes IMO

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> will try to get it out before the next meeting. has been in testing and review for a few weeks already

👋

monero.observer is still active. new trezor leak

affects older users, from 2019 era

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> ofrnxmr: “im tired boss”

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> thats why i dont own a hardware wallet. easier to avoid being in a database if you dont own any monero

i only buy backdoored / use like new devices from ebay so im safe from these big data leaks

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> I used a proxy

does anyone have any other highlights theyd like to share? if not, lets get into CCS proposals and discussion

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> Not that it is super relevant but

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> i’ve made decent progress on CARROT/FCMP++ for merchant payment detection

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> Hopefully won’t take long to put the repo online

nice, thanks

4. CCS Proposals

first i would like to mention a few things that plowsof raised

<jpk68:matrix.org> +1 for selsta and Boog

1. resdh4de's in-funding proposal had a title change and reduced xmr rate due to the recent value increase. 36 -> 25 xmr, and new title mentions that is it an astro rewrite (not just a redesign) repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/c…roposals/-/merge_requests/695/diffs

2. syntheticbird reduced rate from 80 -> 60 xmr for the same reason

3. hinto had requested for his aborted proposal funds to be repurposed for other cuprate work. syntheticbird has requested the funds, with boog and hinto showing support repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/696

👍 1,2,3 . hintos proposal is closed and syntheticbird is by majority taking it over inside his own CCS

i will note though, that there has, though, been some controversy with stagex discussion as of today

in -dev?

on the pull request

so a good read for syn or anybody interested in using it

maybe the next cuprate meeting boog900

"I say all this as someone who was a non-trivial contibutor, who actually moved it to mimalloc, who redid their LLVM and Rust packages, and misc other errata. I adopted it in my own project, Serai, exemplifying the Dunning–Kruger effect, before realizing how flawed it was and issuing a retraction/no longer claiming Serai's runtime is bootstrapped

thanks to using StageX."

i noticed stagex reduced sync times, so whatever caused that bring it into the approved solution

so its not just a hater comment, but seems kayaba was a regular / non-trivial contributor to the project

so thats not a nack on (3), just that it should probably be discussed further before moving forward with stagex

moving on to the proposals now

<jpk68:matrix.org> Yes, I also previously identified some potential runtime behaviour discrepancies between glibc and musl in the Monero codebase

before cuprate move forward with stagex right? not sure where -core is on stagex tbh

<jpk68:matrix.org> See the PR I linked for more info

stagex core pr went from draft to ready for review, so i think that is why kayaba commented

a. selsta - full-time monero development (3 months) repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/697

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> +1

<jpk68:matrix.org> +1

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> +2

<sneedlewoods_xmr:matrix.org> +1

👍

skipping b for now

c. panagot12 Monero LWS Observatory — Public LWS Health repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/686

<ravfx:xmr.mx> a. +1

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> that’s the one with the repo that was online then offline then online

yeah, then migrated to gitlab

oh, yeah, for 1 and 2 (redshade and syn rate changes) = +1

they have a preview up monero-lws-observatory.vercel.app

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> checkin’ itr

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> it*

could make a request on monero.fail repo to track monero-lws servers

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> yeah

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> also, the description rates dont match the md

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> description asks for 3 + 3, the md shows 5 + 5

should i ping them to come to the next meeting? close / merge ? what does everyone thing. theres only 1 vote on the proposal atm

if anyone wants a monero-lws registry

pls make a requets

request*

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> will do

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> ofrnxmr: +1 to ping em

benchmark the time they fully sync a wallet from genesis , not accepting anything more than 7 mins

d. v1docq47 - monero konferenco 2026 voice-over and working on xmr.ru repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/683

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> i think id vote "update rates -> merge" now

update rates and proposer can reach out for support from xmr.ru community or directly link the proposal on the front page of xmr.ru and ask for support

proof of life pelase

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: agreed

lat blog was 2026-08-12 so wake up pls

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> more recentt than the weekly revup

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> “weekly”

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> this is the kuno problem

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> yeah let’s just ping em to update rates

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> he was paid up front for 12 weekly issues, and produced 1

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> 2 months ago

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> cc @v1docq48:matrix.org:

e. r4v3r23 - ANONERO Continued development repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/671

gotta be setting a record with this one

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> -1

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> git.anonero5wmhraxqsvzq2ncgptq6gq45…ANONERO/ANONERO/commits/branch/main still no commits from the dev

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> i see a pull request though, from udenix

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> but when plowsof's comissioned fork was proposed for PRs, ai slop was rejected

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> Seems like they’re waiting to see funds to start doing something

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> and that pull request is clearly ai

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> @slowbeardigger:matrix.org: I raised some points in the gitlab comment section, no response

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> not saying the pull is bad, but that if ai is acceptable than plowsofs code should be accepted and reviewed as well

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> (would that mean plowsof should be paid for the completed work? :P)

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: yep

id rather fund trusted devs with experience to bring new features into core that can be adopted by wallet2 api consumers

a new ui from a kotlin dev? no problem

<ravfx:xmr.mx> Even for a project that is 100% clanked, time is required, QA is also required

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> on a more serious note, i dont think any of the concerns have been addressed. main dev hasnt opened a pr (commits, even translations, are being commited by ANONERO account), no activity in a few months, including the disclosed vulns

git.disroot.org/iuanv9/anonero-fork/issues/8 if anyone would like to test the ai slop from rent a clanker

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> git.disroot.org/iuanv9/anonero-fork/pulls

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> lol

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> prs that complete most of the ccs proposal's milestones

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> I stick with my -1

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> you're obligated to vote yes or abstain, sir. /s

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> I will vote with my wallet

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> my wallet says

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> open a kuno

<hbs:matrix.org> hello

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> i don't know where to go from here. maybe at this point the proposal needs to be redrafterd since the features are mostly completed

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> hi hbs

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> And tbh plowsof have completed the work… so... > <@ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> (would that mean plowsof should be paid for the completed work? :P)

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> @hbs:matrix.org: hola

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> ok, lets move on. i think we'll have to close if there isnt some movement in the next 2 weeks

2027 is approaching also, the crack down on third party apps for standard android OS's

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> good point

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> the final item on the agenda isnt a ccs proposal, but a request for bounty funds to be repurposed

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> this one bounties.monero.social/posts/32/140…219m-i2p-baked-into-the-monero-gui?

f. jpk68 - request to repurpose more of the i2p gui bounty bounties.monero.social/posts/32/140…-219m-i2p-baked-into-the-monero-gui

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> yes

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> +1

<jpk68:matrix.org> The way I see it, the funds are going to sit there for an eternity otherwise

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> i expressed my view privately with jpk, but ill restate them here

ccs.getmonero.org/proposals/jpk68-i2p-samv3-support.html

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> bounties arent supposed to be used for CCS proposals, or anything outside of the bounty

<jpk68:matrix.org> I was granted part of these funds in my past CCS, and the world has not yet exploded

<ravfx:xmr.mx> +1 for i2p

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: hmmm

when can we use i2p in the gui

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> @jpk68:matrix.org: your prior proposal was the one that closed the bounty. the current proposal is unrelated

the proposal is 2/3 complete with funded beta testing milestone

<jpk68:matrix.org> plowsof: When it's merged :)

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> “*expired bounties will be transfered to the top 5 bounties on the site that have the most funding at that time.”

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> as in, the first ccs was a replacement for the bounty

<jpk68:matrix.org> You can use it right now if you build it yourself

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> @slowbeardigger:matrix.org: github.com/t-900-a/fider-monero-bot/blob/master/policy/scope.md

ther is 15 xmr you can collect

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> I think, the policy should be updated

<jpk68:matrix.org> 100% of the work requested in the bounty has been completed, and for a third of the price. You couldn't ask for a better deal, really ;)

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> @slowbeardigger:matrix.org: when was the last time a expired bounty was transferred to the top 5 bounties?

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> probably never

have yo uannounced and recruited beta tetsers per milestone 3 for example

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> Funds sitting there

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> i2p sam is still being updated daily

<jpk68:matrix.org> Yeah, that's not a policy that's working for anyone. Would it really kill anyone to be pragmatic and allocate funds where needed

<gingeropolous> 100% of the work for what bounty?

this is the pr that is 100% complete? monero-project/monero #10523

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> still actively in review / its not dead and just waiting for merge

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> @slowbeardigger:matrix.org: Can we do something about this? vote? something?

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> I would strongly agree if expired bounties get used to fund CCS proposals that are “almost there” but need a little push

<jpk68:matrix.org> @gingeropolous: The I2P GUI bounty, besides it being merged.

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> @slowbeardigger:matrix.org: bounties and ccs are entirely separate operations

<jpk68:matrix.org> Ginger stated he would be willing to have the community vote on this. It seems the majority of people agree

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: F

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> i dont think we should be using bounties for ccs proposals, unless the ccs fulfills the purpose of the bounty

<gingeropolous> Sam support is not what the bounty was in it's entirety

<syntheticbird> @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: They are different but can still be within the CCS

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> @syntheticbird: they are entirely different, not even on the same TLD

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> diff wallets, diff custodians, diff maintainers, diff goals, different rewards path

<jpk68:matrix.org> What benefit is there to leaving the funds sitting in bounty wallets, to never be used again?

<syntheticbird> @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: could be merged into ccs.getmonero.org is my point

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> Then why hasn’t been ever a expired bounty distributed to the top 5 active ones?

<syntheticbird> @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: yeah i get it

<jpk68:matrix.org> @slowbeardigger:matrix.org: Because it's a terrible policy

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> @syntheticbird: We should work on this

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> updating that policy, and fund stuff

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> Like, i would love to see at least part of an expired bounty to fund Monero development

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> the one thing they have in common, is the policies can be changed. example here is that dead ccs proposals are supposed to go to the generalfund, but we as a community decided to use them to fund slow proposals

<syntheticbird> @slowbeardigger:matrix.org: hold down cowboy, ccs is in the realm of the core kingdom. Your good faith and motivation is not gonna change anything to it unless you convince community and core

<jpk68:matrix.org> Yes, I think it should be voted on, to reallocate bounty funds to similar work, on a case-by-case basis.

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> @syntheticbird: true

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> sowy

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> @jpk68:matrix.org: one thing you suggested, was to send the funds to the i2p team, or to MAGIC fuzzing proposal. while both of those are charitable / admirable, i think they both spit in the face of the donors

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> when people fund a bounty, they are sending money for a race for a specific head to be chopped off, not to send money to random sidequests

<jpk68:matrix.org> I think it would be infinitely more of an insult to just leave the funds there forever, doing nothing, just for some useless posturing.

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: Policy update would cover that :p

<jpk68:matrix.org> Donors want their funds to be put to work, not to be sitting in a vault somewhere.

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> @slowbeardigger:matrix.org: and making sure donors read that

<syntheticbird> @jpk68:matrix.org: its not a matter of using the money but a matter of not misusing the money

<syntheticbird> @jpk68:matrix.org: you are just assuming

<gingeropolous> Surely someone will think of a way to make hidden services Just Fucking Work (JFW) in the gui

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> @syntheticbird: i stated in prior meeting that i would only ACK a repurpose of those bounty funds if they went towards specific tor/i2p work that was in the same stream as the bounty

<jpk68:matrix.org> I'm sorry, but it's a bit ridiculous to argue that it's a "misuse of funding" to donate it to audits for the same exact purpose

<syntheticbird> @jpk68:matrix.org: I never said your particular case is a misuse of funding

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> the bounty is "make it easy for gui users to use i2p"

<syntheticbird> I'm just expliciting my thoughts on the general policy here

<jpk68:matrix.org> @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: Yes, and after discussing this in a tech meeting, adding Tor Control does not seem to be a good idea. I'm not going to push for bad decisions being made because I want funds (?)

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> @jpk68:matrix.org: right, so then the bounty funds sit until there is a use for them IMO

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> using idle money because it exists = why dont we just fund everything with the general fund

<jpk68:matrix.org> Anyone who has doubts about the usability of SAM in the GUI can try and build it themselves, and see how easy it is.

<jpk68:matrix.org> @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: I think I have presented a use for them quite well.

jpk68 "anyone" or the team of beta testers

for ms3

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> giving it to the i2p team or MAGIC? or donating to generalfund? i think all of those are against the spirit of the platform and a misuse of the funds

<jpk68:matrix.org> plowsof: Yes, I've been waiting for a few weeks to get more reviews so we can iron out a few details

<jpk68:matrix.org> @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: This can be voted on

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> it doesnt need to be voted on

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> its out of scope for the platform

<jpk68:matrix.org> I think a significant portion of people here would be willing to change that policy.

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> . > <@syntheticbird> could be merged into ccs.getmonero.org is my point

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> Not saying RIGHT NOW

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> but we should def think a bit about it

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> I know is not “urgent”

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> But because it is not, doesn’t mean we should let it die

<syntheticbird> @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: There is nothing that can't be voted on in a democracy (imagine we are a democracy for a sec)

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> @syntheticbird: ugh

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> @syntheticbird: its borederline scamming if you take funds that were send for a specific purpose and use them for MAGIC fuzzing

<jpk68:matrix.org> I just see this as useless red tape for no reason. We could fund so much work, and decide not to just because "precedent"

<syntheticbird> @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: true

<syntheticbird> needs to be in the same scope

<syntheticbird> imo

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> @jpk68:matrix.org: we have a generalfund that has much, much, much more funds than bounties

<jpk68:matrix.org> That was one of many examples. I2P is in need of audits as well

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: Def a waste if they just sit there

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> @slowbeardigger:matrix.org: as i just said, this applies (falsely) to the generalfund and jetfund

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> its the SAME arg for ANY idle funds

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> existing isnt a reason to spend

<syntheticbird> not like this has any values in the argument. GF is just like the super rare luck box in mario party > <@ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> we have a generalfund that has much, much, much more funds than bounties

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> we've repurposed funds from jetfund numerous times, and alwyas in the same veing

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> tipxmr -> xmrchat, for example

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> Welcome @SerHack:libera.chat

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> but using tipxmr -> some unrelated project is essentially scamming the donors

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: Ok its pretty simple then, if theres a policy update

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> these specific funds should be used for similar CCS or other things but, in the same line than the OG bounty

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> @slowbeardigger:matrix.org: this doesnt work

<jpk68:matrix.org> This is just minutiae; the majority of people seem to have to problem with this

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> and specifying that in that policy would about the “scam” feeling

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> because the purpose of a bounty is for people to compete

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: cries

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> ccs proposals remove the competition

<jpk68:matrix.org> @slowbeardigger:matrix.org: 100% agree. Same line, as in, working on the same sort of features

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: expired bounties…

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> without the competition, and the work first, pay later, there is no purpose for bounty to exist

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> @slowbeardigger:matrix.org: gotcha

<syntheticbird> anyway because there is some nostalgic salt in the air right now (remind me of the first CCS meetings when I just joined). I'm +1 for @jpk68:matrix.org

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> @syntheticbird: +1

<syntheticbird> im not gonna waste time explaining why i agree with @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx but I think its relatable in @jpk68:matrix.org's case

<jpk68:matrix.org> Okay, it seems Bear, Syn, and RavFX support

<jpk68:matrix.org> Sneedle and selsta are neutral

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> Ok if that complicates things a lot, regarding the expired bounties

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> Would not be easier to, do as the policy says then?

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> @slowbeardigger:matrix.org: jpk had every opportunity to claim the entire bounty with the ccs, but rejected the funds

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> which is why we are even here

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> yeah i recall

<syntheticbird> @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: alright -10000

<syntheticbird> ccs social credits negative for jpk68

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> @syntheticbird: you’re killing me XD

<jpk68:matrix.org> Yes, so I did the same work for 1/3 of the price, because it's not feasible for a real person to eat while working for 7 months on something, and only getting paid at the end

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> you could have priced the ccs at the full amount

<jpk68:matrix.org> I'm not complaining, just giving my reasoning

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> but you actively said you DID NOT WANT the funds at all

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> using the funds was @plowsofs idea

<jpk68:matrix.org> @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: But instead, you can get a year of work for that same price. What a deal!

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> you said i2p team would fund the proposal, and instead the proposal was funded in full from the bounty

<syntheticbird> @jpk68:matrix.org: why not having asked for a lower CCS to get you going and feeded while accomplishing the bounty.

<syntheticbird> I can see that being agreed on

<jpk68:matrix.org> Good point.

why not "Announce and recruit beta testers" as the first task in milestone in the open CCS

<jpk68:matrix.org> I don't feel like charging people an exorbitant amount of money for something like that. Money is not what I care about.

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> and this isnt about "do we give the funds to jpk's current for-funding prposal" this is also about "if we dont, should be YOLO them into MAGIC, or give them to I2P team (who saved 50xmr by not funding the first proposal), or to black hole them into generalfund"

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> isnt just* about

<jpk68:matrix.org> What I do care about is being able to do what I love, and continuing to things that matter. Seeing this sitting around and doing nothing is infuriating

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> its one bounty out of many + many jetfunded ccs proposals, all of which are available for repurposing into work that accomplishes the goal of the bounties

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> singling out this specific bounty as infuriating is stange.

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> strange

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> there are 10s of thousands of xmr "sitting around doing nothing"

<jpk68:matrix.org> Which is why we're surfacing a policy change...

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> 90 on a 2 year old bounty isnt something to lose sleep over

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> but it adds up

<syntheticbird> @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: kinda cruel tbh. 90 XMR is life changing for many people

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> its been "Expired" for like 2 months

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> @syntheticbird: correctoy

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> @syntheticbird: are i2p devs, generalfund, or MAGIC those people?

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> or jpk, who rejected the funds?

<jpk68:matrix.org> Can you look at the rate I'm asking for in my current CCS, and reasonably conclude I am greedy and just want money? Obviously not

<syntheticbird> @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: no but my dog is. so don't hesitate if you have no one to send it to

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> @syntheticbird: your dog will never see a piconero if we sent it to i2p or gen fund

<syntheticbird> @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: are you not following. my dog is i2p

<jpk68:matrix.org> The remaining bounty funds can feed me for like half a decade, but hurr durr, we can never use them because god forbid we be pragmatic for once

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> What’s why i said, policy update or making sure the bounties policies are actually applied

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> @jpk68:matrix.org: who said we can never use them?

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> i NACKED sending them to unrelated causes

<jpk68:matrix.org> Yes, and my CCS now is related

<syntheticbird> @slowbeardigger:matrix.org: if that's really something you wanna do, you can write a policy proposal over at meta repository. Be prepared to be either ignored or hammered by concerns/discussions.

<syntheticbird> anyway I wasn't there during the beginning of the meeting but I have to go now

<syntheticbird> good luck people

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> ty, take care

clarify stagex future for your own ccs with cuprate meetings syntheticbird, thanksyou

<syntheticbird> ack. plowsof

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> @syntheticbird: In my case, ignored, i am the new guy xD

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> but shall see

alrigt, were way over the time

next meeting sat sept 19, 2026

thanks everyone

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> Aight, thank you guys, take care

@ 1600hrs *

<sneedlewoods_xmr:matrix.org> IMO if jpk68 could have claimed the entire bounty of 140XMR, it would be okay for me to make an exception in this case

<sneedlewoods_xmr:matrix.org> but maybe let the proposal stay in funding required for 2 more weeks, and pay the missing amount then, it already received 2/45XMR

<sneedlewoods_xmr:matrix.org> would that be something people would be fine with?

<sneedlewoods_xmr:matrix.org> sorry for being slow

<sneedlewoods_xmr:matrix.org> one community highlight I just learned about monerotalk.org from the russian weekly news on youtube

<sneedlewoods_xmr:matrix.org> it seems quite new and haven't seen that been shared anywhere

<sneedlewoods_xmr:matrix.org> and thanks everyone for the meeting

<r4v3r23> every single concern has been addressed > <@ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> on a more serious note, i dont think any of the concerns have been addressed. main dev hasnt opened a pr (commits, even translations, are being commited by ANONERO account), no activity in a few months, including the disclosed vulns

<r4v3r23> if anyo ne can simply vibecode all features for any project, just close CCS then

<r4v3r23> merge it and let the community decide whether or not to fund it, not plowsof

<r4v3r23> or continue this shitshow of gatekeeping

<r4v3r23> the proposal has had majority of support from the start, including from you @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx

<r4v3r23> even Vik is onboard, but some how CCS "coordintor" gets a veto?

<r4v3r23> if you all want to put an end to 4 years of hard work and replace it with a shtty vibe coded fork that mr coordinator wont even support and maintain, be my fucking guests

<r4v3r23> 8 upcotes (with more who cant get approved by plowsof for gitlab account vs 5 downvotes (at least 2 of which are trolls/socks) yet its still not merged