<ian.niculescu> youtube.com/watch?v=gjMQ8FEPNwY&ab_channel=TimcastIRL look at 7:35,the guy is trying to introduce private crypto in the mind of Tim.

<ian.niculescu> so they mention Monero

<bridgerton[m]> "<ian.niculescu> www...." <- Trudeau is much worse than I ever imagined...sad thing is biden is just the same

Did that Bitcoin laundering couple really use Monero? I didn't see that mentioned anywhere

<ian.niculescu> yes they did to launder the btc.

<ian.niculescu> it was in the paper on the graphs

<ian.niculescu> dash was also mentionned

<ian.niculescu> but they had no trails of the xmr transactions

<ian.niculescu> what i think they did, is exchange the dirty btc for monero, and then deposited the xmr into exchanges to get btc.

<𝙲𝙴𝚁𝚄𝙻𝙴𝙾𝚄𝚂> so they traced the XMR?

<𝙲𝙴𝚁𝚄𝙻𝙴𝙾𝚄𝚂> going from one exchange to another?

<ian.niculescu> they only traced the bitcoin to exchanges with KYC from what I understand. And on those exchanges the feds saw deposits in xmr, comming from nowhere. The likely answer is that the criminals used some sort of btc-xmr swap to get xmr. and then deposited that xmr on exchanges. So the feds only tracked btc.I might be wrong about this, but this is what i understand.

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<bridgerton[m]> "<ian.niculescu> they only traced..." <- They probably saw xmr withdrawals to exchange from alphabay logs

nikg83[m]: they had all exchange login details

selsta: Yep, but hacked-btc to xmr to exchange was provable if they transferred directly (or eabe) and found the same from alphabay logs

Some news articles do point to alphabay logs being used

the government didn't do any tracing how the XMR got into the exchange

if they did tracing the PDFs don't disclose it but there was no reason to in the first place

also they didn't seem to decrypt the monero wallet, because "unknown about of monero"

the simplest explanation is just that they traced the bitcoin backwards