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ooo123ooo1234567
we would like to protect privacy of our users, but due to our incompetence it's better to forbid anonymity as a measure against spam; facepalm
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plowsof[m]
yes i thought, i would just use a tor proxy but it was not allowed
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ooo123ooo1234567
you could register irc via matrix bridge and then use that via irc client
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ooo123ooo1234567
(intermediate conclusion: all irc users don't care about their anonymity)
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plowsof[m]
Emojis 1 - IRC 0
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nioc
plowsof[m]: come visit me and I will take you out to eat :)
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nioc
Not pizza and donuts but someplace nice
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plowsof
nioc thats the most wholesome threat of a good time i've read all week, thank you
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dukenukem
what? plowsof is on IRC?
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dukenukem
you can cloak your hostname over at #libera-cloak.
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ooo123ooo1234567
test
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ooo123ooo1234567
test
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ooo123ooo1234567
test
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plowsof[m]
loud and clear filthy [m] user !
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plowsof[m]
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ooo123ooo1234567
<plowsof[m]> "loud and clear filthy [m] user !" <- it's visual problem of matrix bridge, on irc side there is no [m]
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ooo123ooo1234567
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ooo123ooo1234567
hmm, can you check with real irc client ?
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ooo123ooo1234567
monerologs didn't show [m] even before
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nioc
the [m] shows on irc unless you choose not to display it from matrix
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ooo123ooo1234567
libera.monerologs.net/monero-research-lab/20220624, why this log doesn't have consistent [m] for all matrix users then ?
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ooo123ooo1234567
nioc: there is no such option
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nioc
I only show you as not having the [m]
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nioc
another person is posting from both matrix and irc
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ooo123ooo1234567
there was no special actions, even irc user was registered only within few hours
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nioc
I am not familiar with matrix because I don't use it but there was discussion on how not to display the [m] several months ago
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ooo123ooo1234567
link ?
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nioc
sorry I do not have it
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nioc
even though your [m] does not show I do see that you are using matrix
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plowsof[m]
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plowsof[m]
Remove [m] from your IRC ?
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ofrnxmr[m]1
Open a private chat with @oftc-irc:matrix.org and tell it !nick irc.oftc.net NewNickGoesHere
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ofrnxmr[m]1
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ofrnxmr[m]1
See also:
opensource.com/article/17/5/introducing-riot-IRC for information about how to change your IRC nick (and more details in general on using chatting through Matrix).
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ooo123ooo1234567
`@appservice:libera.chat` can you try write something to this user plowsof ?
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plowsof[m]
with the appservice thing i was able to view the #monero irc room
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plowsof[m]
ok so we must start a private chat with appservice:libera.chat , and from here "!nick" should respond with options
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ooo123ooo1234567
ooo123ooo1234567 didn't have [m] from the beginning for some reason
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plowsof
would you consider hosting a virtual presentation at the next monerokon with the title ' How to evade bans on Matrix '?
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ooo123ooo1234567
not funny
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ooo123ooo1234567
you don't have [m] prefix too now
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ooo123ooo1234567
what have you done ?
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ooo123ooo1234567
* you don't have [m] suffix too now
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plowsof
started a pm with appservice and then `!nick irc.libera.chat plowsof`
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ooo123ooo1234567
it was probably enough to just start pm
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plowsof
the mods have stripped my emoji rights in MRL, i hope they allow me to not use the [m] in my name
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ooo123ooo1234567
<plowsof> "would you consider hosting a..." <- can you call at least 1 useful presentation ?
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plowsof
at the most recent monerokon? (they have uploaded 4 videos now, and i've only seen half of the first one)
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ooo123ooo1234567
<plowsof> "would you consider hosting a..." <- btw, this title is more suitable for that scammer without any bans
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ooo123ooo1234567
plowsof: there are slides
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ooo123ooo1234567
In general, there are a lot of questions to development/research, so no need to analyze derivatives of this.
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plowsof
you said my joke was not funny then you make a funnier more offensive one, well done
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ooo123ooo1234567
In general, ban isn't a solution for a project that is supposed to be decentralized
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plowsof
neither is "ignore" (if you are in a position of 'needing to know whats going on / who is saying what)
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ooo123ooo1234567
that means those are still using ignore are in a position where it doesn't matter what's going on / who is saying what
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ooo123ooo1234567
* means those who are still
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ooo123ooo1234567
In general, the only useful discussion is going on around some new problem / new solution
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ooo123ooo1234567
<plowsof> "
monero.observer/noot-..." <- "At the completion of this proposal, there will be an audit-ready pre-production release of the ETH-XMR atomic swap software, as well as a pre-print paper outlining future improvements to the protocol." so whatever is available now could be used after finished audit without any additional changes
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plowsof
video demo is included here
noot/atomic-swap #91
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plowsof
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ooo123ooo1234567
It would be good to know price for proper end-to-end audit
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cryptogrampy[m]
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cryptogrampy[m]
Some really really good content for Monero memes / videos here if anyone is interested
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cryptogrampy[m]
I'm too old to make memes. I could croak any second
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cryptogrampy[m]
I can barely look at a wownerochan without putting immense strain on my stents
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r4v3r23[m]
<cryptogrampy[m]> "
youtube.com/watch?v..." <- is it as bad as i think it will be?
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plowsof
adjusts microphone and doesn't mention Monero, and talks about investing in bitcoin-only projects, no shitcoins!
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plowsof
Moneros motto : we rent matrix servers and getmonero website and don't sponsor any developers directly with the general fund. When a third party pays for 3 months expenses we say thanks , when a 7kusd month 4 year drain on funds gets unclogged nothing happens . community members have to start their own funds to actually invest in the ecosystem still
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ooo123ooo1234567
"community members have to start their own funds " what is it ?
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plowsof
the MAGIC fund for example
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plowsof
if you want bitcoin to collect dust, we also have a BTC general fund wallet address
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ooo123ooo1234567
the main problem with MAGIC is that it isn't compatible with decentralization / privacy nature of this project and it's also disconnected from actual development
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plowsof
blockchain.com/btc/address/1KTexdemPdxSBcG55heUuTjDRYqbC5ZL8H who paid a $44 fee to move btc out of the general fund wallet? am i reading this correctly?
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ooo123ooo1234567
true developers start from actual development, not from another centralized fund with KYC
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ooo123ooo1234567
that fund looks more like a try to build regular academic environment hierarchy around funding process, not sure why how it helps development of monero
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ooo123ooo1234567
s/why//
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plowsof
it is a tax deductible charity , the main selling point of MAGIC (so companies will consider donating then)
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ooo123ooo1234567
"community members have to start their own funds to actually invest ..." btw, donations for audit are closer to this category
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ooo123ooo1234567
plowsof: donations in xmr are already private by default
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plowsof
Kraken can donate to 'monero' without people knowing, but they want tax right offs
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plowsof
also alot of normal people who pay taxes, and donate to the general fund are not benefiting from any kind of tax right off
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ooo123ooo1234567
it's better to focus on actual development and it's problems, and only after that on everything else
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plowsof
monero can only function if the developers have well paying full time jobs already - and they 'do a bit of monero stuff' in their spare time
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nioc
if you itemize your USA federal taxes you can write it off, in the US probably most don't itemize
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nioc
now anyone can deduct up to $300 in charitable contributions they have made
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plowsof
waiting for audit so 2 projects can make money from something specifically being included in the hard fork (the only current financial reward related around the hard fork)
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ooo123ooo1234567
<plowsof> "monero can only function if..." <- No. Only spare time development outside of full time job doesn't produce competitive result
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ooo123ooo1234567
> <@plowsof:matrix.org> monero can only function if the developers have well paying full time jobs already - and they 'do a bit of monero stuff' in their spare time
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ooo123ooo1234567
* No. spare time only development outside of full time job doesn't produce competitive result
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ooo123ooo1234567
* no, spare time only development outside of full time job doesn't produce competitive result
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plowsof
we need good results from slaves
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plowsof
there is one ccs recipient who claims to have a full time job already that is billing for 30 hours / week but thats another story
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plowsof
sorry. 40 hours a week* 😆
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ooo123ooo1234567
it's better to start from project goal firstly
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ooo123ooo1234567
<plowsof> "waiting for audit so 2 projects..." <- any external help wouldn't bring any harm if there would be no problems with development process
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ooo123ooo1234567
<plowsof> "we need good results from slaves..." <- currently there is even no way to merge good result from slaves, since priority is set on blind merges of placebo PRs
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ooo123ooo1234567
<plowsof> "there is one ccs recipient who..." <- prove by contradiction that hourly based work can be abused easily ?
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ooo123ooo1234567
* abused easily in current environment ?
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ooo123ooo1234567
* proof by contradiction that hourly based work can be abused easily in current environment ?