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jberman[m]
Hmm... I feel like there is a solution here somewhere
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ooo123ooo1234567
funny that hyc commented about DoS development, but ignore any direct discussion about technical problems
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ofrnxmr[m]
Its hard to keep up. Moo left midway through. Im sure some stopped reading altogether
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ooo123ooo1234567
> <@ofrnxmr:monero.social> Sometimes you get under peoples skin and force them out of character... (full message at
libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/do…60e1daf96370c146a5313fb6e7fb2319d72)
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ooo123ooo1234567
* I didn't even use f-words in public yet
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ofrnxmr[m]
Its not the words you say, its how you say them.
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ofrnxmr[m]
Nobody likes to be spoken to in a demeaning manner. (Scammers deserve it, and talking about shooting people is inexcusable)
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ofrnxmr[m]
Gingeropolous swears all the time. No problem.
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ofrnxmr[m]
I say "nobody", but I mean - some people are reallllllly sensitive.
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jberman[m]
I think everyone is interested in you helping improve multsig but it's hard to see exactly what can be done from here to lead to that outcome
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jberman[m]
You'd like a process better than hackerone, and you liked your discussion with koe pre-audit in -lounge
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jberman[m]
So, that's something.
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jberman[m]
Do you think the best move would be to publicly discuss it with koe?
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ooo123ooo1234567
conversation about multisig happened at the same time with that scammer
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ooo123ooo1234567
it's bad
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ooo123ooo1234567
idk
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jberman[m]
I mean this decision has to start with you, you are the one claiming to have information
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ooo123ooo1234567
libera.monerologs.net/monero-dev/20220517#c96541, "ooo123ooo1234[m]: It's a matter of basic decency. Oh look, my 'putting up with indecent behavior' meter ran out. Guess you'll need a new account if you want me to read your messages."
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jberman[m]
He'll read your messages :D
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ooo123ooo1234567
this discussion happened at the same time with talk about jeffro256 patches
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ooo123ooo1234567
I didn't ask UkoeHB to participate in it
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ooo123ooo1234567
you all were just attacking me and I responded to everyone
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ooo123ooo1234567
or I was busy with proving the point
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jberman[m]
well, here's where we are today. you in to try and discuss multsig vulns again?
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ooo123ooo1234567
it's the same case as with your review of that connection patch
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ooo123ooo1234567
I may tell everything earlier or wait until you will check it yourself
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ooo123ooo1234567
idk which way is better
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ooo123ooo1234567
I also don't know whether it motivates UkoeHB or dismotivate
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ooo123ooo1234567
competition brings more motivation for me
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ooo123ooo1234567
idk about others
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ooo123ooo1234567
I thought useless audit would be the last step they would try, but it wasn't
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jberman[m]
hmmm, trying to grok above -> how we can arrive at production ready multisig
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ooo123ooo1234567
I wanted to do bulletproofs++ on top
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ooo123ooo1234567
since finished with multisig
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ooo123ooo1234567
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ooo123ooo1234567
it's likely alternative without my work
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ooo123ooo1234567
i'm not sure whether you asked about my plan or current plan
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ooo123ooo1234567
* current plan of others
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jberman[m]
no didn't see that
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jberman[m]
haven't been following here at all, just jumped in for a second and saw that one message
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jberman[m]
Idk what to make of all that tbh. If you say you are interested in discussing vulns in multisig, I will let UkoeHB know as he is also very interested in discussing vulns :) and I also hope you find a way to contribute sustainably and that we all find a way to get along and make the code better/improve processes/improve as devs and all that
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ooo123ooo1234567
libera.monerologs.net/monero-dev/20220630#c113889, "now ooo asks all developers to waste time on some deadlock debugging which he already fixed. It's straight up malicious practice of stalling the development. Devs have other stuff to do right now." current attitude to questions
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jberman[m]
well it would be cool if you explained what the source of that bug is/how to repro/how exactly you found it so I can focus attention on other stuff that also matters (while still learning), but ya I started looking at this today cuz I assumed you're not gonna do that
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ooo123ooo1234567
are you abotu prev talk regarding connection patch / multisig problems / deadlock problem ?
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ooo123ooo1234567
not clear
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ooo123ooo1234567
s/are/is/, s/you/it/, s/abotu/about/
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ooo123ooo1234567
which one
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jberman[m]
gingeropolous' deadlock problem
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jberman[m]
that's what he's referring to there
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ooo123ooo1234567
"... so I can focus attention on other stuff that also matters ..." what is alternative task for you ?
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jberman[m]
working through the source of this and hardening a solution:
monero-project/monero #8415
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ooo123ooo1234567
did you the source for that bug ?
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ooo123ooo1234567
* did you fnd the source
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ooo123ooo1234567
* did you find the source
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jberman[m]
yes
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jberman[m]
but I want to make sure the solution is sound which will take more investigation
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ooo123ooo1234567
too early to discuss in public ?
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jberman[m]
ya
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sethforprivacy
I'll be having a live Q&A tomorrow on YouTube for my podcast, would love to cover any Monero/cryptocurrency/privacy questions you all may have!
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sethforprivacy
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sethforprivacy
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sethforprivacy
Top 2 questions get free Proton swag as well, if they want it 😉
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ooo123ooo1234567
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ooo123ooo1234567
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ooo123ooo1234567
* (unrelevant)
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gingeropolous
i think i generally swear at inanimate things
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maki3000[m]
<spirobel[m]> "why do you like it?" <- Very late answer: it’s laravel and very easy and powerful…