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plowsof
if you talk here ooo123ooo1234567 your social credits will += to 100 (a light hearted request to continue conversation here with a touch of sarcastic humour at the end)
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whiskey00[m]
Check out Monero Circular Economy Development on Meetup
meetup.com/cyberpunk-cryptop
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whiskey00[m]
I started a meet up in NYC / Jersey to help people meet and interact in the space
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whiskey00[m]
Always welcome, wanting to see if there is any interest
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whiskey00[m]
if you arent in the tri-state area, still feel free to spread the word
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rbrunner
"if you talk here ooo123ooo1234567 your social credits will += to 100" Dear plowsof, I want to check my balance :)
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rbrunner
No, seriously, +1 for me to continue communication with ooo: It's not easy, it had a very rough start, but I still think it's worth it
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ooo123ooo1234567
would you like to do it from fresh account without any connection to your real identity ?
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ooo123ooo1234567
just to prove that you're interesting in result and not any social credit
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ooo123ooo1234567
s/interesting/interested/
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rbrunner
Well, that story with the "social credit" was written by plowsof half seriously / half jokingly, and I did likewise. I am not *really* interested in "social credit"
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rbrunner
Like you, I tend to focus on results, or at least I try to
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rbrunner
Some people like to find problems, some people like to talk about problems, I like to try to solve hard problems
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rbrunner
I see "finding a sound and solid foundation for you and the rest of the Monero dev community to work together fruitfully" as such a hard problem
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dsc_
everything that ooo touches should go through maximum scrutiny
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dsc_
in terms of code going in
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sech1
dsc_ All code going in should go through maximum scrutiny, we never know if someone has been compromised or not
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CidadoisAncap[m]
Hello guys
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bridgerton[m]
<Encore> Hello guy
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nioc
ask not what monero can do for you
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nioc
ask, what can I do for monero?
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nioc
*ask not, what can monero do for you?
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rbrunner
Originally I had in mind to continue here a chat with ooo123ooo1234567 that started earlier today around here:
libera.monerologs.net/monero-dev/20220703#c116467
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rbrunner
Several questions were left "hanging in the air"
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rbrunner
But I feel somehow the chance passed for a good follow-on. I intend to wait until a more natural chance presents itself to continue discussion
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kowalabearhugs[m
Will the core team release a yearly general fund report this summer?
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kowalabearhugs[m
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dsc_
ah yes, the infamous big whale donor and rockstar community developer "KowalabearHugs" wants to see some financial accountability
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kowalabearhugs[m
dsc_: I don't understand the reason for your snarky reply, but sure... as community members in a community driven project, yes, there should be yearly dev/general fund report from core
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dukenukem
another accountant.
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dsc_
"there should be"? you are owed nothing
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kowalabearhugs[m
dukenukem: another community member
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dukenukem
kowalabearhugs[m: precisely. ogs over randos larping as accountants. :)
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rbrunner
"That escalated quickly" comes to mind.
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dsc_
dont like the GF? start your own fund
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kowalabearhugs[m
dsc_: Your assumptions are baseless. I like the GF
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nioc
I think the point is that it was done last year so a reasonable expectation is that it will be this year
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kowalabearhugs[m
Reports have been issued in previous years. I'm wondering if we might see one this summer
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nioc
I don't know about years but at least year :)
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dsc_
is it the highlight of your year kowalabearhugs?
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nioc
why aren't you spending the money?
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kowalabearhugs[m
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dukenukem
Thanks for the news, Mr.
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nioc
I am at the point where time stands still :D
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kowalabearhugs[m
dsc_: Blocked
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nioc
I block nobody <3
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rbrunner
:)
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dsc_
the IRC terminology is "ignored"
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dsc_
... :P
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nioc
dsc_: I also don't ignore, at least by automated processes
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kowalabearhugs[m
I didn't think it would be controversial to ask about said report. I'm certainly not making demands, just curious if we'll see something this summer because i feel it puts the project in a good light
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nioc
yeah there should be one but I am sure it is not on top of the list of things for core to do
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kowalabearhugs[m
The transparency, that is. And it's nice to see the state of the GF. Funds were accumulating and that is positive
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dsc_
fed.
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dukenukem
Use the fucking viewkey and start crunching the numbers yourself.
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dukenukem
Fuck off.
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nioc
sigh
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kowalabearhugs[m
Much hostility from community members
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nioc
he is special :)
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kayabanerve[m]
View key is no where near sufficient for this.
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nioc
^^
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dukenukem
I mean, you are the one asking for the report so hard. If you want something done, do it yourself.
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kayabanerve[m]
Beyond the guarantee of the key images, there's no explanation of where funds went. Just that they were sent.
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rbrunner
So, kowalabear-hugs versus duke-nuke'm: Nukes win against hugs. At least verbally.
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kayabanerve[m]
... even with the key images, that still wouldn't have the relevant information
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kowalabearhugs[m
dukenukem: "asking for the report so hard" This is the only conversation I've initiated about said report and, as previously stated, " I'm certainly not making demands, just curious if we'll see something this summer because i feel it puts the project in a good light"
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nioc
dukenukem: thx for reminding me to give Cat some catnip, will be feeling happier now
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dukenukem
nioc: yw.
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dukenukem
kowalabearhugs[m: Okay. Thanks for your concern.
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kowalabearhugs[m
dukenukem: Thanks for listening
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dukenukem
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plowsof
here is plowsofs official GF report: we had some donations, and continue to spend around 2k$ / month on infrastructure
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nioc
AIUI some donators are paying for infrastructure directly
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nioc
*some infrastructure
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nioc
.bbl
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plowsof
yeah , im only aware of majesticbank paying for 3 months infra (6kusd)
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plowsof
i would never want to be in charge of any kind of fund, zero benefits to yourself and you get accused of all kinds of things without fail every 12~14 months
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kowalabearhugs[m
the benefit is they're a trusted party, when their skills are in demand someone will reach out
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kowalabearhugs[m
I was aware of the majesticbank donations. Nice people those majestics
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plowsof
the report will be done soon(tm) don't worry, the last one was also a bit late
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kowalabearhugs[m
kowalabearhugs[m: Or at-least tactically aware
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kowalabearhugs[m
<plowsof> "i would never want to be in..." <- I've not seen many accusations towards GF in the past 12-14 months.
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kowalabearhugs[m
Certainly nothing notable. They seem to be keeping a low profile and doing a good job.