<zounds[m]> "they'll redefine whatever..." <- This

<xenu[m]> "I'm in agreement, but if they..." <- Ultimately Only the ones they decide to sanction

<xmrscott[m]> "Monero is unlikely to be taken..." <- The government funds TOR. We can only guess why that is

<xmrscott[m]> "And even then that doesn't..." <- lol it is LE and crimination. It means, if you’re caught at that point, jail time. So if you refuse to stop you have to worry about your OPSEC 100% because it’s illegal at that point.

And yet Tor is employed by various well trusted and established platforms like QubesOS or the recommended platform Bisq. If anything gov should then take down i2p given it competes with a supposedly gov ran Tor. Point stands

<aremor[m]> "The government funds TOR. We can..." <- Without tools like Tor, how would NSA/CIA etc cover their tracks?

<aremor[m]> "lol it is LE and crimination..." <- The thing is that these aspects of digital cash applay to any crypto. It would mean anybody using non kyc bitcoin with whirlpool and paynyms would be violating this, or zcash zk snarks, or litecoin mimblewimble, etc. Feds are going to go after all non kyc crypto if your doomsday scenario is correct. They wouldn't just go after monero.

s/applay/apply/

Monero of course does it best, but that doesn't mean elements of privacy aren't found in other projects

xmrscott[m]: Yes they should. The guides I read say place no trust in TOR. Use VPN, VMs, and randomly generated MAC addresses, No persistent storage, the full 9 when **contemplating** needing full privacy on TOR.

<jimmyt[m]> "Without tools like Tor, how..." <- Protects against non sophisticated users yet not against the NSA itself…..

xenu[m]: I said this

If Monero is criminalized it means it’ll only be useful for underground stuff. And we can forget all grandiose ideas of having public circular economies. That’s depressing to me but the one bright side is that the price would stop fluctuating so much due to exchanges

Depends on your threat model as to Tor vs VPN; VPNs 100% know your true IP

If you do journalism/whistleblowing, Tor is the recommended method in all guides I'm aware of

End of the day, it’s not a versus. It’s a both. Just depends how you combine them

Even the ISP to the VPN shouldn’t be yours. And the MAC shouldn’t be the original either. Even as just a journalist that can be a death sentence in many countries. Long story short TOR isn’t enough because you don’t know how infiltrated the entry and exit nodes are.

lol zcash is like pls don't sanction us

🤣

they want to give me cookies, how generous

Zcash is compliant and fully compatible with global AML/CFT standards, including all final FATF recommendations, the European Union’s Fifth Anti-Money Laundering Directive, and the United States’ Anti-Money Laundering regulations. It is approved by the New York State Department of Financial Services (NYDFS), a key requirement for listing on major exchanges, like Gemini and Coinbase.

In 2020, ECC commissioned the RAND Corporation to conduct research into Zcash usage for illicit purposes. The research revealed no evidence of any substantive use of Zcash for money laundering, terrorism financing or trade in illicit goods and services.

that's right, nobody uses it

<joshhavepigdog> Sad, but true.

<joshhavepigdog> For Zcash that is

Lol selsta: jeezzzzzzz

hi

<zach> "hi" <- hi

.zooko

> <@xmrscott:monero.social> Not just that, but the writer has previously lied about why Cake Wallet pulled their sponsorship of him, and he got called out publicly for it and they called him a crazy racist twitter.com/vikrantnyc/status/1403036355735789583

> "If Cake Wallet pulled sponsorship, why should anyone fund him when there are better news alternatives" would be raised in the proposal and he'd like to keep it on the down low going by his deleting of his tweets

clear victim complex

what was cake sponsoring r4v3r23[m]?

plowsof: given the recent controversies around cake (cakepay privacy policy, monero.com, etc) and growing user frustration at their practices, i think we should have a meeting to discuss grievances and reassess cake's place in the community

there is only so much sponsoring they can do to hide issues under the rug

or you could just...use a different wallet

lol

yeah no shit buddy

I ain't ur buddy, pal

then fuck off

okidoki

lets remove the freewallet warning too since users can "just use a different wallet"

no one uses freewallet anymore anyway so warning is just a waste of space

but I'm fucking off

<jwinterm[m]> or you could just...use a different wallet

xDD

Wookeywallet, is this recommended?

r4v3r23: moo made a a PR to remove cake wallet from getmonero which sums up the sentiment of the anti cakers. I think Core have enough to make a decision on 'listing monero.com' .. theres also another option to change how wallets are listed on getmonero (ercicione made an issue of his suggestion) e.g make it clear which wallets call home. A meeting to recap everything would be nice

The joke (coincidence?) with the monero.com pr.. during conversation it was noted that monero.com was listed as an official website by coingecko.

Coingecko was notified > monero.com removed > then coingecko opened a pr on getmonero.org for priority listing of coingecko..

Why would be endorse coingecko when they, not 24hours prior, were directing users to the wrong website.

Why would we*

how do we get this funded? I made a reddit post a few days ago which resulted in about 1.5xmr being donated

I was confused a bit why cake wallet’s monero only wallet is call monero.com

was just checking the monero-gui channel and after receiving help this is the comment a user left >> <danielevans[m]>

thank you so much for your help, and your work on the monero gui, and your work for the monero community, you truly are a gem, the monero community is so lucky to have you around selsta seriously

<joshhavepigdog> Why does everyone dislike Cake so much? Is it as private and secure as the GUI? Likely not. Is it easy as hell to use enabling complete noobs to get involved in Monero? Yes.

Some people live to kvetch

Imagine if Cake becomes our version of Blockstream 🤣

<joshhavepigdog> Still no v0.18 for cake :/

<bridgerton[m]> "<joshhavepigdog> Why does..." <- its pure garbage

cant believe monero users stand for this kind of app

<joshhavepigdog> Cake better push v0.18 prior to the fork lol

<joshhavepigdog> Why is cake so bad though?

It's a decent mobile wallet

And they support the ecosystem quite a bit

They ping their servers the moment you open the app and apparently refuse to implement and opt-out option

"Refuse" in the sense that the fix was done but not merged

they bribe the community for support via sponsorships

then slyly try to co-opt the monero brand

all while gathering users data

s/and/the/

<joshhavepigdog> Could you further elaborate on what “pinging their servers” means?

<joshhavepigdog> They collect all user IPs or something? What is the scope of this tracking behavior?

monero needs more wallets

better wallets

The app ping cake servers to get fiat exchange rates n' stuff

Potentially harming users privacy

Issue:... (full message at libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/do…16b53e172832f067429ca6cba3a886b0c71)

(Message by ofrnxmr)

<joshhavepigdog> What is the maximum information they can collect on an end user?

<joshhavepigdog> Isn’t it just their IP address?

I supposed that could give them the time and approximate location of each user that open the app each time

<joshhavepigdog> Ah I see time and selected currency as well

<joshhavepigdog> Location? How would they get that information?

Can't you get that info by knowing the IP?

I have no idea honestly, but you can read the github issue

* the IP? (If user doesn't use a vpn)

IP can be traced right back to your name and address provided you ISP cooperates.

<joshhavepigdog> I suppose

<joshhavepigdog> That’s inherently true of almost all internet usage though

<joshhavepigdog> To avoid that you have to avoid de-anonymizing yourself and exclusively use TOR / I2P

Monero has put a lot of effort into making it not true for monero. That's why we have dandilion++ built right into monero

<joshhavepigdog> Let’s say the US puts the death penalty on Monero usage. How could one prevent the government from knowing that you are using it under this extremely risky circumstances? Would you exclusively transact over TOR? What about I2P? Or would you have balls bigger than Epcot and still transact over the clear net just to fuck with the government?

<joshhavepigdog> This is true. Still people have to realize the privacy implications of not running their own node and using their own rather than another’s remote node.

If using monero at all were a crime (regardless of what you use it for) then yeah dandilion++ won't save you and you'll have to connect your wallet to a TOR or I2P node to be safe.

<joshhavepigdog> Would you personally use TOR or I2P?

I already do :)

<joshhavepigdog> I’ve heard recently that Dark Net Market infrastructure is gradually shifting toward I2P, due to the Feds constantly fucking with TOR’s entry and exit nodes

<joshhavepigdog> TOR seems to have an easier user experience imo

TOR is still fine, there's no actual case of deanonymization from the feds attempts yet. They're just throwing shit at the wall and hoping it sticks someday.

But yeah I2P seems to be growing

So I2P is a full TOR replacement?

Or ideally we should use both?

I2P is a full replacement. You can't connect to clearnet sites through it though, it's a walled garden in that regard.

TOR lets you connect to clearnet through an exit node, but I2P doesn't have exit nodes so clearnet access has to be done through specialized bridges.

Thanks for the info, i prefer it to be walled garden actually, I have a tendency to fuck up these kind of things 😅

<BusyBoredom[m]> "If using monero at all were a..." <- whats the point of d++ then

I'm guessing it protects the privacy of your transactions, while TOR/I2P would protect the privacy of you using Monero at all

<joshhavepigdog> Ahhhh, so using TOR and EXCLUSIVELY connecting to onion services helps in lowering one’s attack surface as you don’t ever even need an exit node, since you never need to connect to a clear net site. Is this above reasoning / threat modeling correct?

d++ is supposed to hide origi IP of your tx

gonbatfire[m]: yeah

@joshhavepigdog yes, exclusively connecting to onion services massively reduces your attack surface. There's very little meaningful difference between TOR and I2P if you stick to hidden services only.

<joshhavepigdog> That information is very useful for threat modeling. Thank you so much.

<joshhavepigdog> One potential UX issue with TOR and Monero is that sync times take ages if you are restoring a seed. Would it make sense to keep your wallet file on a seperate usb/hard drive, then connect it every now and again over TOR to sync? What files would one need to have on the hard drive to prevent from having to rescan from restore height every single time?

<joshhavepigdog> Assuming one wanted to keep one’s wallet file located on an external usb or drive from the device that is connecting to TOR?

Sync times are improving a ton in the next hard fork, so hopefully that kind of workaround isn't necessary.

Background syncing is also a WIP.

<joshhavepigdog> In my exact case, given my current hardware set up and other limitations. My access to TOR would be on a different laptop each time. In this case, how could I keep my wallet “up to date” while keeping it on an a USB stick?

Josh. The issue with the calling home to cake wallet servers is VERY noticable if you run your own node

If you run your own, your connections should look like this:

LOCAL

<joshhavepigdog> What files do I need to have on the USB stick? Should I just store the entire Monero GUI there? What about the wallet.keys file? I just would like to know the total amount of files I need on the USB, so that my wallet will “save the last block scanned” that way when I next connect it doesn’t take as long? Sorry if my wording is jumbled here

I have a Tails USB with the monero GUI wallet installed on the persistent volume, so you could do that.

Instead, im calling home to cake over the internet BEFORE I even attempt to contact my own node running on an internal network.

<joshhavepigdog> What if you can’t create a persistent volume? Have you ever had trouble updating your persistent volume where when you update TAILs it fucks up your persistent files?

<joshhavepigdog> Yes this is pretty fucked up

<joshhavepigdog> But until we get a better version of a Monero mobile wallet this is the cost of easy UX for Monero mobile users.

My main issue is that: I opened the issue, instead of fixing they changed the privacy policy

<joshhavepigdog> Haha

Then kept pushing more features and broken updates

<joshhavepigdog> That is fucked up

Like wtf is this corporate bs.

<joshhavepigdog> I agree that’s pretty horrible

I've never had updating tails mess up my files. That would be pretty inconvenient I agree

<joshhavepigdog> How long have you been running this set up? I was averse to setting up a persistent volume because I’ve had so many issues with TAILS drives crashing WITHOUT even using the persistent volume feature.

<joshhavepigdog> So I’m risk averse in that regard.

My setup is quite possibly easier

<joshhavepigdog> What would the advantages of having a wallet on a TAILS persistent drive be versus having the wallet files stored on an isolated USB stick that never touches anything, but the GUI over TOR?

Simply run monerod-in-termux master beta, tor mode

<joshhavepigdog> Tell me more

Then connect to the resulting node over onion or lan/wifi

If you can't create a persistent volume then just put the monero gui right on a normal USB I guess, your seed is encrypted anyway.

I've been using this setup for many years with bitcoin, and for ~6 months with monero.

<joshhavepigdog> I can’t understand this

Android node, everything is preconfigured for onion and lan access

Biggest prerequisite is storage space >64gb, preferrable 128/256 or greater for pruned/full respectively

<joshhavepigdog> What trade offs would there be between having the GUI and wallet files on a normal unencrypted USB (of course the wallet file is password protected upon connecting to the internet or opening on a laptop) versus having a TAILS persistent drive?

None

Wallet files are encrypted, you can do the full tor setup without tails

<joshhavepigdog> Can you use a wallet on the same android device too? I’m constrained on the number of devices I have access too.

You can, but I dont. I rub my nodes on tablets, and an old android 7 phone

<joshhavepigdog> Gotcha

<joshhavepigdog> When the day comes that severe Law Enforcement abuses begin to happen on Monero clear net users, I will get fully setup with some sort of persistent volume likely with TAILS

Monero can be fucked.

<joshhavepigdog> It will happen unfortunately soon unfortunately.

<joshhavepigdog> By this you mean?

Hyc and others were talking about encrypted p2p channels or anonymity networks allowing fullsync, this is necessary

<joshhavepigdog> I thought I heard somewhere that Monero’s network couldn’t operate exclusively over TOR and relies slightly on clear net infrastructure, if this is true and government goes full 1984 crackdown things get spicy for us vs them really quick.

<joshhavepigdog> Yes

Currently service providers can block p2p monero traffic pretty easily iirc it was jeffro256: that spoke on it

<joshhavepigdog> This should be a priority IMO because this battle is coming to our doorstep within the next 5 years

<joshhavepigdog> That’s fucked

Correct. Its currently not enable to allow incoming connections or to do any block syncing over hidden services

<joshhavepigdog> Even if you run your node as a hidden service? Your ISP can still fuck with you?

<joshhavepigdog> Oofff

Hidden service doesnt do blockchain sync

<joshhavepigdog> That is bad

<joshhavepigdog> Really bad actually

<joshhavepigdog> Way bigger bug then multisig lmao

Not bigger

And same devs working on both :(

<joshhavepigdog> So basically there will always have to be some guy with the balls to say fuck you to the government and run a full node over the clear net, even if they put his neck on the chopping block for doing so?

Yep

<joshhavepigdog> Alright.

<joshhavepigdog> I’ll be that guy

Always. And he must have a LOT of incoming connections

<joshhavepigdog> Because the buck stops here

<joshhavepigdog> I hate the fuckkng governemnt.

<joshhavepigdog> This is the hill I die on.

<joshhavepigdog> I don’t want my kids to live in 1984

> What trade offs would there be between having the GUI and wallet files on a normal unencrypted USB (of course the wallet file is password protected upon connecting to the internet or opening on a laptop) versus having a TAILS persistent drive?

I just use the Tails USB because I want to protect my wallet from any potential malware on my computer while in use.

Which is why some of us run clearnet vps nodes.

Sooner or later we will move to or enable anonymity network block sync, just have to do it in a way that doesnt cause chain splits.

I2p for example doesnt communicate with clearnet.

<joshhavepigdog> I really hope a solution comes up prior to the next hardfork. Even if we can just get monerod to fully run as a hidden service that will probably be enough at least for the next 5-10 years right?

<joshhavepigdog> I2P seems a bit shit relative to TOR

<joshhavepigdog> The problem is that L E is getting better at attacking hidden services

<joshhavepigdog> Fucking feds

<joshhavepigdog> Good use of taxpayer dollars 🤡🤡🤡

There was a ccs for afganistan outreach.

<joshhavepigdog> What about it? Seems like a waste

One of my main reasons I couldnt supoort it, is monero can easily be banned on the internet there

You get s bunch of women to work illegally and dox themselves because of no encryption in the p2p channels... scary

<joshhavepigdog> When you say “run a clear net vps node”, what exactly does this mean? I don’t want to deanonymixe you here, but is this a node you host at your geolocation or a node you host with a hosting service in Iceland or some shit? I would like to know because the day approaches where I will need to do something similar.

<joshhavepigdog> The Afghanistan proposal was a load of shit

Hosting service

<joshhavepigdog> The guy would’ve just stolen the funds

<joshhavepigdog> Dumbest shit I’ve seen in a while

Basically paying for some fast server to support clearnet connections since my home network isnt nearly as stable

<joshhavepigdog> So I can come here and ask you guys what hosting service you use that tolerates risky behavior when the day comes that I need it right?

@Josh 🥲 be nice. Spirobel is easily offended

<joshhavepigdog> Doesn’t this also protect you from law enforcement as well? Because they can come bust down your door and put a cap in your ass?

<joshhavepigdog> It doesn’t reveal your geolocation by using a hosting service in a different country right?

If you use a VPS that accepts monero and doesnt require id, of course

<joshhavepigdog> This is going to sound a bit crazy, but are there any good resources to learn how vendors / admins avoid compromising their OPSEC when trying to host these sorts of things?

<joshhavepigdog> These exist right?

<joshhavepigdog> So the smartest thing to do OPSEC wise if one’s threat model is they will kill you if they find out you are running a Monero node is to use VPS that accepts Monero with no KYC?

Basically common sense.

Use monero + dont give id or connecting info (same email you use elsewhere), and connect to manage the server over tor

<joshhavepigdog> It’s that simple?

And connect to the server over tor, that part is important.

Its not btc ln, so not 60 step process. But yeah, basically dont dox yourself during purchase or connecting and use a VPS that doesnt want to dox users (accepts xmr etc)

<joshhavepigdog> And you could provide me with a link to such a service that accepts Monero at a future date when gov finally stops showing us mercy and goes full tyrant mode?

> > <@ossaix:matrix.org> Any recommendations for a VPS service, that can be paid with XMR for hosting cloud node?... (full message at libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/do…f2c303319110b34bffc77f156e34038836f)

<joshhavepigdog> And you could give me a link to such service in the future? Right now I’m ok operating over the clear net because the gov is still enjoying its power and is less concerned with safeguarding their power.

<joshhavepigdog> Perfect thank you for the list much appreciated

<joshhavepigdog> If you run a VPS can you enable other people to connect to said service as well? The same as you would if you running your own node on your own personal hardware? Like Seth for privacy’s node that he lets others connect to?

Seth and the like are most likely on a vps

<joshhavepigdog> So it really is best practice to use a VPS hosted elsewhere in the world. Just a solid move OPSEC wise for a variety of reasons. Right? Otherwise if there is some leak in geolocation it could lead attackers to your doorstep?

<joshhavepigdog> And things really get ugly for the Monero network if these hosting services are shutdown, either out of fear or by force from Law Enforcement right? Because then it leaves one with only the choice of running a node on their own hardware. Is this train of thought correct? Obviously the scenario described here is hypothetical and an extreme, but that could be a future situation we face? Or no?

Then were on our own and have to run with targets on our backs > like tor exit nodes

The idea would be to stop traffic analysis from determining that these are monero blocks.

<joshhavepigdog> Gotcha. But presently the “best OPSEC” way to use Monero is:

Anonymously Host a node on a VPS in different geographical location + Connect to said remote node that you run exclusively over TOR on secure Hardware and Operating system

Is the above equation roughly accurate?

Sounds like a pita

Yep. IMO we need that onion blockchain sync turned on so incoming connections arent bottleneck / reliant on clear nodes

<joshhavepigdog> I’m in full agreement with you ofrnxmr

<joshhavepigdog> It’s just I’m an idiot who can’t program

<joshhavepigdog> Haha

<joshhavepigdog> Oh well. Time will tell if Monero or the Totalitarians will win

Yeah.. Hyc, sech, ooo, berman are all good guys. Not sure who is best for the job or if anyone wants to do it.. but p2p stuff is always an issue. Cent afford to break anything

Btw regarding cake wallet

"We are putting a banner RIGHT at the top today/tomorrow which will clearly direct people to the open source monero project website. "

From Vik

will reality meet expectations? ^^ :D

<joshhavepigdog> What does Vick’s comment mean?

<joshhavepigdog> I know Monero devs are beasts

<joshhavepigdog> This project brings a tear to my eye. It’s beautiful and the principles it stand for are under attack.

<joshhavepigdog> Why does Vik want to direct people to Monero GitHub lol

Vik = cake wallet = monero.com

<joshhavepigdog> Yeah but what is the point of his comment

<joshhavepigdog> I don’t understand it

<joshhavepigdog> Lol

<joshhavepigdog> Also ofrnxmr, assuming you use a VPS hosted elsewhere as a Monero node, how much in USD does this cost you per year?

<joshhavepigdog> How much (approximately) is the yearly cost in USD for running a VPS with and anonymous service provider?

I'm not sure about context, but GitHub issues are generally used for now permanent forum for discussion

Re: why he directed people to github

<joshhavepigdog> Perhaps something controversial that he wants to discuss over GitHub? I don’t care anyways. Cake is just a convenient solution not a secure one lol. Mobile devices are inherently insecure and should be treated as such.

*more permanent

What would be the exact issue with Monero not being able to fully run inside I2P? Is it "just" that we would have two different chains?

What if the longest chain stayed inside I2P?

Cringe tbh

gonbatfire[m]: Like 51% of hashrate were only inside I2P/TOR, and so the situation would get upside down (clearnet users would *need* to use I2P/TOR in order to transact in Monero)

* Like 51% of hashrate were only inside I2P/TOR, and so the situation would get upside down (clearnet users would *need* to use I2P/TOR in order to transact in Monero trustlessly)

Garbage usability

I'd rather it be slow than to live in 1984

We don't need this at all unless the protocol itself gets banned

Even then, there's probably better solutions

Well..

* Even then, there are probably better solutions

Hopefully

Use feather for Tor.. or have tor browser running and set the proxy port in the GUI to 9050 (i think) and we have i2p-zero (gui) for noobs to use it with the monero gui, not too bad for usability

Tor Browser is 9150

<monerobull[m]> "We don't need this at all unless..." <- Isn't the entire appeal of Monero hiding everything (sender, receiver, amount)? Why wouldn't you want to hide your IP too?

You can sync over clearnet where bandwidth is not severely limited like Tor or i2p and just broadcast txs over tor

This is I think perfectly acceptable for most folks that run nodes

Guide for noobs to use i2p with monero gui + i2p zero gui github.com/plowsof/userguide-drafts…lob/main/i2p/monero-gui-i2p-node.md

Until yesterday there was basically zero indication that the US Treasury department would sanction software

And it still seems extremely unlikely still imo

O will refrain from old meme

yw

I like me me's , is it about grapheneOS?

so you are saying there's a chance?

<Lunar[m]11> "Isn't the entire appeal of..." <- Because monero already does that

I rather have my ISP see monero traffic than Tor

Again, Monero isn't illegal. No reason to hide the very fact that I'm running a node at all.

Monero is for everyone™

*some exclusions may apply

<joshhavepigdog> Ping me in 5 years when Monero is punishable by death or life in prison

ok, will ping you in both places

<joshhavepigdog> If one is connected to a remote onion node in the Monero GUI over TOR, doesn’t the block scanning happen over TOR and not over clearnet right?

<joshhavepigdog> If your traffic is connected to TOR and you are in GUI connected to an onion node?

<bridgerton[m]> "<joshhavepigdog> Ping me in 5..." <- And while it isn't, why exactly should we force everyone into a shit user experience?

Wallet scanning over onion > yes, all over tor... post v0.18

I'm not saying we should force anyone right now ofc, just asking if when the time comes (it will come) we would be able to avoid clearnet dependence entirely

Also expect countries to shutdown the internet entirely, (already happens in some places in Africa when there is "elections") but not sure if we can do anything about that

s/the/their/

* Also expect some countries to shutdown their internet entirely, (already happens in some places in Africa when there is "elections") but not sure if we can do anything about that

* Also expect some countries to shutdown their internet entirely, (already happens in some places in Africa whenever there is "elections") but not sure if we can do anything about that

<monerobull[m]> "Again, Monero isn't illegal..." <- Also, retroactive laws are thing, maybe not in the US, but in Argentina there are.

* Also, retroactive laws are thing, maybe not in the US, but in Argentina they are a thing

* Also, retroactive laws are a thing, maybe not in the US, but in Argentina sadly they exist and are not uncommon

IRC see all of your editing :)

Ah damn sorry!

I hear rumors that it looks nice on matrix, I have never been there

Yeah I'm on Matrix, sorry about English isn't my first language so I edit a lot, I will try to keep that in mind from now on

your english is good

feel free to edit to make thing clear, little things don't matter so much

seems to me that there is a growing monero community in Argentina

I wonder why /s

Today a friend of mine asked me how Monero hides stuff ;)

Hey guys, let me ask you something

If I have a Ledger and my seeds written on paper. Can I recover my wallet without a Ledger? I mean, is there any Monero software wallets that will recover my Monero?

Without the need for a Ledger

yes, this is possible

Which wallet would work?

there is a python tool by ledger that allows you to convert your ledger seed to a monero seed

no specific wallet

Ok, thanks

Fork in 4.1 days, still no release of Monero update for ledger. I feel I might have to compile it myself... Again... (If it's still possible)

don't forget to upgrade your node, so far only 40% are ready for the hardfork: have: community.rino.io/network

s/have://

npt sure how accurate that is for me it shows 197 ready and 1597 npt ready

0_o

and mine is not shown

this is what I see

I can not validate if it's correct data

never heard of it

oh whoops.

<plowsof> "Guide for noobs to use i2p..." <- Thanks a lot for this guide! I followed exactly, and I am getting no connection:

```

Error: Couldn't connect to daemon: 127.0.0.1:18081

```

I have no idea why it is trying to use port 18081. Strange.

Trying to use the default monerod port?

That's the default RPC port

Nevermind: It refused to connect because it was conflicting with my public node that I'm running from docker on the same machine already. Once I configured a different p2p port, e.g., `--p2p-bind-port 11080`, it works fine over I2P. Thanks, again plowsof, for an easy-to-follow guide.

<ct[m]> "screenshot.png" <- How is the data collected? Do nodes have to sign up?

not sure, its not my website. they did a reddit post 2 weeks ago and I was surprised that the share of upgraded nodes only increased from 7% to 40%

glad it helped jozef! im also thankful to have missed the "i followed it exactly and it doesnt work" comment, phew!

Most sites indexing monero nodes need the nodes to sing up indeed. No idea about the one from Rino

s/sing/sign/

s/to/be/, s/sing up indeed/registred/

* All sites indexing monero nodes that I checked need the nodes be registred. No idea about the one from Rino

Does anyone have historical data for P2Pool? Like number of miners and hashrate over time?

I'm building these charts for Moneroj.net, and all I've got so far are data stored on Web Archive from p2pool website

In case anyone has these data, please get in touch

<joshhavepigdog> Does one need to update their node node prior to the hardfork too, or leave the node alone and just update the wallet software?

what would the wallet be connecting to?

you need to ideally update your node and wallet before the HF