<plowsof> "If haveno deposit 420.69 Moneros..." <- uh? isnt the point of monero to be fungible? so why would that specific deposit be flagged over any other deposit? like, i know for example fixedfloat once froze funds from the btc side of trade, never heard of any monero frozen that way, also kraken is already kyc so why would they force kyc if it's already kyc'd? dont make no sense :derp:

Anti money laundering laws. FF needs large amounts to be accounted for else they will get ' get tornado cashd '

One reason why some people dont recommend FF : for random AML spot checks

 

what's FF? firefox?

Fixedfloat

Unstoppable stop works too though, just less user intuitive

oh :derp:

s/stop/swap/

Any exchsnge has to abide by AML laws, not just FireFox

Man I'm happy I've finally deleted discord

plowsof: really? whats the best swap?

and on the intuitive side, there's many non kyc options anyways...

I just use fixedfloat ngl

as for fiat on/off ramp, localmonero

Haveno seems like it's gonna be good

right or they could just use their own platform too 😹

duh! x)

spacekitty420[m4: which swaps dont shotgun kyc?

tradeogre not a swap but is non kyc and never heard them asking kyc

Not valid?

matrix buggy sometimes... my other acc is all fucked up too and cant join most rooms anymore and some messages dont even show up... so went back to the acc on matrix.org instead, seems less buggy for now

hmm weird, thanks

didnt know monero.social was having issues as well tho so could be something else, idk

Nah seems like it's working fine, just saw that error in settings

oh x)

oh i hella derp too, thought you was tryna join the monero room lmao, oh well, guess it's bedtime o.o

mlem

r4v3r23best swaps are atomic swaps followed by 'making them accept monero directly' xD

<plowsof> "r4v3r23best swaps are atomic..." <- yes p2p circuar economy etc etc

that's why there is a dedicated monero.com wallet

<r4v3r23[m]> "image.png" <- I agree with this on a larger scale

Which is why I dont see any reason why monero needs atomic swaps.

_these surveillance chains_ are the ones who need atomic swaps. Not us

: )

spacekitty420[m4 i find matrix to be a buggy PoS myself.... and i probably mean the clients actually, but as an end user, who cares? bad experience = bad experience

Nah, its the rooms rooms. Invite only

Rules

ofrnxmr[m] citadel dispatch and haveno-dev are invite only?

i literally can't do a damn thing with matrix. i think i hate it. thank g-d everyone bridges all their ish to irc or discord... except citadel dispatch....

Dont know about citadel

#haveno-dev:haveno.network

I dont think it invite

Haveno dev is public *

yeah element fucking sucks. i'm starting to hate matrix altogether but i cant find a way around the problems. i'm discouraging its usage everywhere i can because its starting to cause me serious issues

Try clearing cache?

what issues

seems fine to me

Maybe just try another client? matrix.org/clients

hashy[m]1 thanks. i'll try some more. fluffycat was already giving the same issue. they just won't join any servers, at all. tried hacking the links in several different ways and no matter what, they always say invalid server url

np goodluck