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spacekitty420[m]
endor00: so
github.com/home-assistant/core seems to be opensource, they have a doc on how to install it on raspberry pi and other thingies but mj considering it like those closed source iot thingies? like does it call home and whatnot maybe? or he extra :tinfoil:?
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spacekitty420[m]
endor00: ^
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spacekitty420[m]
thought you was on irc side lol
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tiny_voice1563[4
First, the HomeAssistant integration idea is fantastic. Idk what mj’s issue with it is. Second, the fact that he surreptitiously slipped in the mining fee without even discussing it is not only wrong because he’s making a tool for the Monero community, which in turn is paying him via CCS. If he were doing it for free (no CCS), then sure he can put whatever code he wants into XMRig. Taking mining fees without publicizing
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tiny_voice1563[4
it on top of the CCS payment is just slimy. And then the drama with endor just makes it all that much worse.
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spacekitty420[m]
can just manually remove the fee and recompile but true that not even mentioning it at all is odd specially while already choosing his own salary with ccs
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tiny_voice1563[4
spacekitty420[m]: Yeah mj knows most users will not notice the fee and/or will not know how to self compile. That’s why he slid it in there.
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spacekitty420[m]
however, now with p2pool, it's even cheaper fee to mine so i guess there's that too, being all like, all thigns should balances out or somethin
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ofrnxmr[m]
LoL, nobody should be surprised
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ofrnxmr[m]
luigi1111:
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ofrnxmr[m]
I hope you got my msg
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ofrnxmr[m]
The mining fee is the least of the issues. Glad nobody notices the elephants in the rooms
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ofrnxmr[m]
Makes it easy for scammers to scam
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ofrnxmr[m]
> <@ofrnxmr:monero.social> The originally ccs says
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spacekitty420[m]
the lack of audit to the code?
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ofrnxmr[m]
>
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ofrnxmr[m]
> Should Endor not make it until the deadline, I guarantee, that I will finalize the project by myself until the coming winter.
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ofrnxmr[m]
^^
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ofrnxmr[m]
The fact he wants to get paid and leave before completion, repeatedly,
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ofrnxmr[m]
He tried the same a month ago
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ofrnxmr[m]
And did the same with his dev ccs
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spacekitty420[m]
what i didnt get is that few days ago they seems to be okay with mj being paid in full for M4 and endor paid in full for M3
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ofrnxmr[m]
Billed 6 hours for counting his hours
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spacekitty420[m]
but now mj also wants that M3
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ofrnxmr[m]
Billed time for changing Github > Github
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spacekitty420[m]
s/seems/seemed/
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ofrnxmr[m]
His optimization pr had to ve rolled bacl
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ofrnxmr[m]
Guy ran as fast as he could as soon as he got called out
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ofrnxmr[m]
Mj getting nothing
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ofrnxmr[m]
Endor can open a new ccs to complete the project
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ofrnxmr[m]
spacekitty420[m]: No.
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ofrnxmr[m]
Endor was ok with it. But milestones dont work like that
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ofrnxmr[m]
If you claim this is your project
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ofrnxmr[m]
And you will finish it regardless of endor, you finish m3 first
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ofrnxmr[m]
Optional? You claimed you would complete it. He also requested early pay for his half of m3
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spacekitty420[m]
to be fair tho, just looking at that graph:
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spacekitty420[m]
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spacekitty420[m]
can also get his side i guess
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ofrnxmr[m]
And solopt doesnt _work_, as per endor.
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ofrnxmr[m]
No. Scamjay isnt getting paid
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ofrnxmr[m]
You dont get to rape the cow, come back and do it agaib
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ofrnxmr[m]
As I said and as endor said
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ofrnxmr[m]
Fixing the same spelling mistake 10 times isnt writing code
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spacekitty420[m]
😹
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ofrnxmr[m]
Mj is king shit when it cones to faking your hours
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ofrnxmr[m]
"What did mj fix with his hundreds of xmr"
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ofrnxmr[m]
Nothing
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ofrnxmr[m]
When he was a monero "dev"
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ofrnxmr[m]
You remember ooo? Why do you think mj ran away
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ofrnxmr[m]
He got exposed
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ofrnxmr[m]
And instead of not pulling the same shit, he does it again, quietly, win merge requests
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ofrnxmr[m]
Hoping Luigi just pays him to shut him up
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spacekitty420[m]
speaking of, is ooo still around? seems like there wasnt much drama lately
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ofrnxmr[m]
s/not/_not_/, s/win/with/
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ofrnxmr[m]
If this is a charity, in accepting donations luigi1111:
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ofrnxmr[m]
Im
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ofrnxmr[m]
He's around
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ofrnxmr[m]
Waiting for us to do some dumb shit so he can kick in the doors, flip the table and all that
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ofrnxmr[m]
He's also working on bp+
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ofrnxmr[m]
+
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devduck[m]
hi
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kinghat[m]
hes recharging
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ofrnxmr[m]
While mj wants to shoot him
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ofrnxmr[m]
According to mj, im ooo 😆
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devduck[m]
kinghat[m]: what recharging
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kinghat[m]
for his next battles
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spacekitty420[m]
ofrnxmr[m]: and according to myself u plowsof too
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ofrnxmr[m]
Ooo spammed for like 3 months straight. Guy runs on nicotine, caffiene and cocaine or something
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devduck[m]
im new on android, suggest me some foss interedting apps, im paranoid
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spacekitty420[m]
ofrnxmr[m]: am fucking dying rn 😹
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ofrnxmr[m]
Fdroid devduck:
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devduck[m]
done
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devduck[m]
more
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ofrnxmr[m]
What u tryna do
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ofrnxmr[m]
Rpc commands? Write code? Run a node? Porn?
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devduck[m]
devduck[m]: .
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spacekitty420[m]
first off would be getting rid of the gapps, grapheneOS if with a pixel or lineageOS or whatever on the other phones
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spacekitty420[m]
then fdroid instead of google store
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ofrnxmr[m]
spacekitty420[m]: This is number one
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ofrnxmr[m]
Then use ALTs from fdroid instead of whatever was installed on your phokeb
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ofrnxmr[m]
Notepad, recorder, gallery etc
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ofrnxmr[m]
Shelter for work app isolation
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devduck[m]
removed gapps
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devduck[m]
im paranoid
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ofrnxmr[m]
Devduck what are you looking for
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ofrnxmr[m]
-_-
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devduck[m]
foss apps, interstjng apps
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devduck[m]
killswitch
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spacekitty420[m]
software killswitch are a myth
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devduck[m]
defense agaknst wrench attack
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spacekitty420[m]
a helmet?
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devduck[m]
plausibls deniability
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ofrnxmr[m]
spacekitty420[m]: A gun?
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devduck[m]
spacekitty420[m]: haha
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devduck[m]
irc client for android
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ofrnxmr[m]
Revolution or whatever its called
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ofrnxmr[m]
App manager for installing apps
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ofrnxmr[m]
Shows when cuck bastards add tracking
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devduck[m]
app manager or packags manager
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ofrnxmr[m]
App manager
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devduck[m]
ofrnxmr[m]: thTs xmpp client isnt it?
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ofrnxmr[m]
#monero:monero.social is probably s better place for this
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ofrnxmr[m]
I was busy being absolutely amazed that there is any conversation surrounding allowing the ridiculous surrounding mj to continue. Mj wants to say its a conspiracy if he doesnt get paid.
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ofrnxmr[m]
Its not a conspiracy. Its common sense and he knows it
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ofrnxmr[m]
Tell me youre on drugs, without telling me its crack
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spacekitty420[m]
it's 100% conspiracy and you know it, tryna slid into luigi's dm to conspire like a bunch of conspirators :hyperthonk:
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ofrnxmr[m]
🍿
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ofrnxmr[m]
I never DM him
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ofrnxmr[m]
I made my point clear 100x and what happened last time was YOLO guy got paid
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spacekitty420[m]
nvm then, u was pinging him about a message and assumed it was a dm x)
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ofrnxmr[m]
When he obviously lied and downtown earn his last milestone
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ofrnxmr[m]
Didnt*
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ofrnxmr[m]
Mj claims my vote doesnt count
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ofrnxmr[m]
He left community and refuses to come to meetings
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ofrnxmr[m]
And he says im 10 people
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ofrnxmr[m]
Basically, dont listen to anybody what doesnt agree with him thinking Github > GitHub is actual work
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ofrnxmr[m]
Claims he reviewed 7760
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ofrnxmr[m]
Guy just shitposted all over it, and threatened to shoot the author
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ofrnxmr[m]
Still got paid selsta rates for dog fucking
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ofrnxmr[m]
But but but.. rotteeeennn. Its ok if mj does it though. And hes so entitled he can get paid without following through. Repeatedly. What a joke
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ofrnxmr[m]
And hes not in here 🤷♂️ but I made him leave
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ofrnxmr[m]
Not my fault he ran away when I called him out
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ofrnxmr[m]
Ran to Reddit to gather support 🫠 like facts care about your feelings
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ofrnxmr[m]
Rant over
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spacekitty420[m]
big rant, here's a cookie:
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kinghat[m]
iirc nobody reviewing his code said it was pointless or of low quality.
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spacekitty420[m]
🍪
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spacekitty420[m]
and some choccy milk:
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ofrnxmr[m]
Tldr. Mj said he would finish the ccs himself
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spacekitty420[m]
🥛
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ofrnxmr[m]
kinghat[m]: 🍿maybe not that you read
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kinghat[m]
other than ooo
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ofrnxmr[m]
Ooo definitely did 😆 and many others as well
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ofrnxmr[m]
A lot of people dont want to speak out
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ofrnxmr[m]
But endors latest comment sums up what most of us know
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ofrnxmr[m]
And I didnt hear it from Endor. I had seen these things for months and months
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ofrnxmr[m]
Like the shitposting on 7760 claiming he reviewed it on his dev report
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kinghat[m]
i didnt read it. i only glance at this chat when i should be doing something else.
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kinghat[m]
s/read/see/
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kinghat[m]
and to check in and see if ooos back
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spacekitty420[m]
<devduck[m]> "defense agaknst wrench attack" <- oh wait i just remember, rayatina the other day might have linked what u looking for
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spacekitty420[m]
thought u was talking about killswitch in the sense to disable things like wifi, camera and such
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spacekitty420[m]
but if looking for something that deletes data, there was a link posted yesterday or so
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spacekitty420[m]
<rayatina> "they're called wasted sentry and..." <- devduck: ^
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ofrnxmr[m]
On fdroidb
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devduck[m]
ty
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ofrnxmr[m]
<monerobull[m]> "Ripple is also one" <- ^
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devduck[m]
tell me some cool apps to use on android
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devduck[m]
what apps you have
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spacekitty420[m]
i dont use smartphone, only have dumb phone
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devduck[m]
revolution ircisnt updated
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ofrnxmr[m]
<devduck[m]> "tell me some cool apps to use on..." <- Lots
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devduck[m]
like
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devduck[m]
i installed tmux tor duckduckgo syphon
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devduck[m]
signal woreguard
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NorrinRadd
devduck[m] you found an app for plausible deniability / defense against wrench attack?
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ofrnxmr[m]
Duckduckgo trash
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spacekitty420[m]
<devduck[m]> "i installed tmux tor duckduckgo..." <- u seen that documentary "2000 mules"?... (full message at <
libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/do…87ea41e15d4a9f92b3d343391dd4a248380>)
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spacekitty420[m]
also wouldnt trust duckduckgo anymore
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ofrnxmr[m]
Signal. .. meh
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spacekitty420[m]
ofrnxmr[m]: jinx
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NorrinRadd
signal is dope
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NorrinRadd
just need pub keys instead of phone numbers
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ofrnxmr[m]
NorrinRadd: Its really not though. Source code has historically laged behind releases. Session has released signal blobs as well, with no source to be found
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ofrnxmr[m]
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ofrnxmr[m]
Session fdroid should be clean, but relies on lokinet which is likely far less. .. decentralized than yor
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ofrnxmr[m]
And session stores messages which magically reappear after deletion.
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ofrnxmr[m]
.... #monero:monero.social android apps dont belong in this chst
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NorrinRadd
ofrnxmr[m] what's more secure than signal? your primary issue with it is that they lag when they release the source?
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ofrnxmr[m]
Or dont release it at all ^
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ofrnxmr[m]
Pulled the app from fdroid etc. Molly is a clean version of signal
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ofrnxmr[m]
Pulled from fdroid via legal measures... not "removed from fdroid" but banned anyone from submitting it
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devduck[m]
im wlrried to insta monerujo
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devduck[m]
on pc i had feather wallet on hidden volume
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NorrinRadd
worried why? devduck[m]
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spacekitty420[m]
ofrnxmr: on the other end tho... he wasnt totally wrong about saying its a way to move the dollar... (full message at <
libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/do…5c9cbdbe69eb74fa9462adcc52c640febd8>)
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ofrnxmr[m]
Rabbit hole goes a lot deeper than that
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ofrnxmr[m]
That assumes that usd vs other fiat is stable or that all dnm exit and enter fiat
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spacekitty420[m]
right, by dollar i meant fiat in general (so including euro, i think the ratio xmr/usd would always be proportional to the xmr/eur ratio)
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ofrnxmr[m]
A loaf of breed might be 2usd or 0.015 xmr
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ofrnxmr[m]
but if that loaf of breed was
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ofrnxmr[m]
2usd aka 2EUR yesterday and 5 EUR today, the xmr value is still 0.015
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spacekitty420[m]
like even if eur lost a bunch of value compared to usd, the ratio will still be proportional when comparing to a 3rd value
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spacekitty420[m]
wait nvm, i think i brain fart LOLK
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ofrnxmr[m]
Exactly, and that third value is not always usd
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ofrnxmr[m]
Every exchange rate is different and usd is backed by nothing. There is no way to peg xmr to usd
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ofrnxmr[m]
18m xmr and an ever inflating usd supply
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ofrnxmr[m]
You can devalue xmr and pretend like its only worth the usd value, but then youd run out of xmr
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spacekitty420[m]
anyways. those merchants still using fiat as their point of reference because on the short/mid-term it's somewhat stable, even if inflation is natural
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spacekitty420[m]
it's like for example gold, price doesnt fluctuates as much cause it's arleady so big and have that massive market cap in comparison to the whole cryptomarket combined which is still so smol
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ofrnxmr[m]
Just about every producer has to convert to fiat at some point
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ofrnxmr[m]
profit does not require conversion
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spacekitty420[m]
not everyone has to convert to fiat, sure down the line A sending to B sending to C sending to D... maybe F would convert
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spacekitty420[m]
but A, B and C maybe they won't have to convert any of that like ever
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ofrnxmr[m]
If I have a farm, I can sell you all the chickens I want for xmr. I still have to pay for my licenses in dollars. I can use the xmr from the chickens to buy feed, cows whatever, but I cant pay my taxes or buy fuel with it
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spacekitty420[m]
right
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spacekitty420[m]
fucking taxes eh.... 😹
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ofrnxmr[m]
And even if the state accepts xmr, they will convert it to fiat.
-
ofrnxmr[m]
The only answer is to have governments run on xmr
-
ofrnxmr[m]
To ditch the dollar completely
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ofrnxmr[m]
If I can buy your whole supply, then reprint double the money.. well.. I just fucked ya
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eudaimon36[m]
Sounds like the plot of a lost Ayn Rand novel...
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eudaimon36[m]
John Galt begins new government with xmr as currency
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ofrnxmr[m]
John Galt = ofrnxmr's other other alt
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eudaimon36[m]
hahaha
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eudaimon36[m]
"This is ofrxmr speaking..."
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devduck[m]
<NorrinRadd> "worried why? devduck..." <- people can steal it from my phone
-
devduck[m]
while on pc i had it on hidden volume
-
devduck[m]
also anonero app gives parsing error
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lousiF
testing that anonero app, any feedback would be cool
-
lousiF
after the shruum wallet thing
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lousiF
it's mostly telegram now,.
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lousiF
idk
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lousiF
things get lost in translation with all the gifs and emojis, but
t.me/anonero
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lousiF
and it's noon and midnight somewhere on the planet. at the same time
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lousiF
here,
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lousiF
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merope
<spacekitty420[m]> "endor00: so
github.com..." <- I think he's referring to the fact that some IoT hardware forces you to go through the manufacturer's/some third party service in order to interact with it. So even though HomeAssistant and the integration itself are open, the data still has to go through that service. But like I said: not all hardware is like that, and nobody is forced to use it
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merope
And also, it's completely outside of the scope of the project. The goal is to give people who already have (or are planning) such setups to add smart mining on top of it as an extra feature, and not to force them to design their entire setup around SolOptXMR
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esac212[m]
In long term won't PoS and PoW both effectively lead to centralization and governments controlling the money supply like it was before with gold?
-
merope
That's one of the advantages of asic-resistance: you use common hardware to mine, so it cannot be restricted
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merope
Unless you wanna stop everyone everywhere from ever buying any device with a cpu in it
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esac212[m]
I read about that but didn't get it. Isn't having a more powerful CPU advantageous?
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esac212[m]
Also, the question arose after I imagined a perfect world where all tech issues were solved and monero became a national currency which is convenient to use. In this world govs will most likely concentrate moneroj via taxes, banking and everything else we've already seen to this day besides also mining it.
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Rucknium[m]
esac212: You have to define what you mean by "controlling the money supply" before having a conversation like this.
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sech1
probably huge government mining farms getting 51%
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sech1
is what he means
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esac212[m]
Yes, like a centralized farm that makes mining by individuals pointless
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Rucknium[m]
esac212: I see no definition of controlling the money supply.
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Rucknium[m]
Do you mean owning a certain percentage of Monero (or BTC)? Determining the rate of change of the money supply in circulation? Dictating reserve requirements on XMR/BTC banks? Performing a 51% attack to roll back transactions?
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Katie[m]
ASICs were a mistake
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Katie[m]
One of the things I love about Monero is that it's ASIC resistant
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Katie[m]
<sech1> "probably huge government..." <- CBDC with extra steps
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merope
Katie[m]: Asics were a natural consequence. There's a direct financial incentive for their creation, and when that incentive gets big enough, someone will eventually go for it
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Katie[m]
Yep
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Katie[m]
Allowing ASICs was the worst part of Bitcoin
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merope
There's no such thing as "allowing" or "disallowing" them
-
merope
Hell, you could build a RandomX asic, if you really wanted to. But the (relatively) small performance gains you could expect from it make it a very bad investment choice
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merope
(Small, compared to other hashing algorithms)
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esac212[m]
Rucknium: With a huge farm that mines most of the new moneroj the one can decide when to release them effectively controlling the money supply. However, the mining rate is fixed and publicly known so that's not probably not a problem. I forgot that 51℅ allows to do everything you want with the block chain, so such centralized farm is an epic fail in any case
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Rucknium[m]
esac212: You're wrong on the 51% attack effects. Do some research
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Rucknium[m]
And if one entity was mining 100% of the XMR hashpower, it would take over ten years for them to acquire just 10% of the current supply. Monero happened to have a pretty fast initial emission curve. And now we're at tail emission.
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Rucknium[m]
A 51% attack would damage Monero (and BTC) a lot, but an attacker cannot do whatever they want.
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TrasherDK[m]
`Monero happened to have a pretty fast initial emission curve.` Not quite pre-mining, but close.
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anhdres[m]
we set up a Monerujo public room at
matrix.to/#/#monerujo:monero.social for those interested.
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mrr[m]
**Are you a freelancer that accepts XMR? List yourself in the new XMR.Directory freelancer section**
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mrr[m]
Visit
xmr.directory/add-merchant and submit your website along with a brief message describing your services.
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mrr[m]
If you have a business that accepts Monero, and it's not yet listed I also encourage you to submit it.
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nioc
<mj-xmr[m]> Hey, I volunteer to hold a presentation on Monerocon 2023, after being invited by monerobull.
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devduck[m]
parsing error
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devduck[m]
<lousiF> "things get lost in translation..." <- hi anonero app unable to install
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devduck[m]
<spacekitty420[m]> "devduck: ^" <- thanks exactly this
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devduck[m]
all wasted, duress and sentry looks same
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devduck[m]
any difference?
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Morpheus[m]
Hey guys, just letting you know Trocador.app is not working today thanks to Njal.la poor performance.
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Morpheus[m]
We'll deploy it again on another better server provider
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Morpheus[m]
Just found out now, but will fix it asap
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Rucknium[m]
Morpheus: FWIW, my Njalla VPSes are up. I can recommend 1984.is for more stable uptime
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Morpheus[m]
Yes, it's like the fourth time we have a whole day offiline because of njalla
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Morpheus[m]
Really sad
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spacekitty420[m]
how about setting up load balancing with different vps providers?
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spacekitty420[m]
so that it gets that redundancy in case one goes down
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Rucknium[m]
Feather Wallet also had uptime issues with Njalla
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Morpheus[m]
Yes, we'll do it now, set up several mirrors
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MajesticBank
I would get dedicated server, it's not more then 150/200 USD monthly for medium specs
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MajesticBank
you can run several VMs there for separate tasks
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ewwe4e3[m]
Hello, I sent monero, from my monero, to a portable version of monero, 1 transaction has not arrived for a month, and the second 3 days, where could it hang?
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NorrinRadd
ewwe4e3[m] have you viewed the transction ids on a block explorer?
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Rucknium[m]
ewwe4e3: Are you on the latest version of MyMonero? If you are on an old version, it will not work.
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NorrinRadd
ewwe4e3[m] and as sgp[m] said, make sure the receiving wallet is fully updated and synced
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NorrinRadd
ha what Rucknium[m] said too
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ewwe4e3[m]
have you viewed the transction ids on a block explorer?
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NorrinRadd
3rd party verification that the transaction even happened
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ewwe4e3[m]
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ewwe4e3[m]
NorrinRadd: Spasibo, ya pytayus' polnost'yu sinkhronizirovat', u menya udalennyy uzel
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ewwe4e3[m]
68 / 5 000
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ewwe4e3[m]
Результаты перевода
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ewwe4e3[m]
Thanks, I'm trying to fully sync, I have a remote node
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ewwe4e3[m]
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ewwe4e3[m]
958c73fb6dfa6f832b218843dc087aef1cdbfe4f7a89817414f2cf5718ffcba0
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ewwe4e3[m]
Please take a look, maybe something will be clear?
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NorrinRadd
btw don't post any view keys here. and none of your addresses
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ewwe4e3[m]
NorrinRadd: Good
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NorrinRadd
ewwe4e3[m] it looks like it sent fine
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Rucknium[m]
The transaction has been confirmed on the blockchain. Your wallet is probably not synced. Sync it.
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ewwe4e3[m]
It just didn't come unfortunately.
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ewwe4e3[m]
Thanks for the replies. I'll try to fully synchronize first
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ewwe4e3[m]
Synchronized, one recent transaction came good. But that one is not there. Tell me, could there be a failure, that before that the wallet was on Linux, it flew off, and I downloaded it to Windows and restored it using a mimic phrase, could it freeze because of this?
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NorrinRadd
ewwe4e3[m] ok we didn't know that part before. you moved the receiving wallet. So it's possible that you did not use the correct restore height.
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NorrinRadd
ewwe4e3[m] you might need to restore that wallet yet again, with a restore height / date that is before any transaction you ever did from My Monero
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ewwe4e3[m]
Thank you, I also thought about this, that I did something wrong, I'll try to restore it.