New person managing the official Monero twitter?

whats happening?

oh, a suggestion? it should/could be more active?

im looking at it nitter.it/monero/with_replies

Plowsof centralising his power of control ;)

people that spam about ledgers 24 or 25 seeds in the early mornings are my cryptonite 😭

if superman then kryptonite

if montero then cryptonite

I'm curious as the tweets seem out of character in relation to the official Monero twitter account's past tweets. Doesn't really bother me though.🤷

Tweet storm seems a little unprofessional for an official account, but that's just me

Does it have blue tick?

Next css proposal pay for blue tick

that spammer really just proves to me that no one is actively running the matrix room

a known spammer can terrorize a room for weeks and is not banned yet; how is that possible

seems like u havent been in #monero-mining cause that shit is even worst with telegram

like 80% of the time i click on the room there's a spam message in there

well, given the telegram side instant ban those but still, spamming is even more on a thing on telegram

Telegram🤢

s/on//

a wallet that will not be named has their primary channel on telegram. i told them it was a cesspool where people were imitating the wallet devs & stiealing folks funds and the lead dev essentially said 'that's not our problem'

sadly a popular wallet but seems they're having some finance issues lately

jfc...

Matrix or….

Gtfo!

telescam

IRC

anyone using Elude for exchanging into XMR from BTC?

plowsof: who's posting on twitter right now?

I know of two people who I believe have access - is it confirmed not compromised?

sus

elon maybe

if doge links appear then its him

Someone's kid took daddy's phone and is tweeting away in his room

enable 2fa peeps

i'm not sure ofrnxmr, i think the person posting is compromised by it being Friday night 🍻

Alcohol and social media :/

always a winning combination

when your friends start sending you those "log off" or "go to sleep" messages

Never thought the official Monero twitter would become a "reply guy" 😂

plowsof you can intervene?

tbf, reminds me of zooko from ztash literally admitting of a backdoor in ztrash so that way criminals can't use it

so whatever if cardano gets shamed for doing the same thing

like, literally couldnt care less

^ that part

Consensus twitting

"the community deserves to lose" ??

LOL monero twitter is full tilt

Somewhat concerning though

Force logout

!

Brb ringing elon

community probably as cryptocoin community and would agree that if something with a backdoor wins this then yeah, fuck that would cryptoworld shit 😹

s/would/whole/

twitter department->#monero-twitter:monero.social (i think someone requested the other day for it to be more active 😀)

Active now

sgp 😟

so what, cause you "represents a community on a twatter account" then u should be acting like all professional or some shit and can't ever trash talk for the sake of it? yall boring up in there LOL

Maybe not trolling people

bad press is also good press and in this case is just plain honesty so yeah, whatever

haters gon hate and blockers gon block

LoL, no offence to who is controlling the official Twitter, but this the wrong kind of 'active' imo. Very few professional accounts (RadioShack? James Blunt?) pull it off well.

Lol jame blunt is expert at comebacks

"blunt" fml... i miss weed LOL

can't buy dips and buy weed altogether, have chose.....

* altogether, have to chose.....

Priorities

exactly

and.... the shoe drops

straight up the CEO of cardano LOL

wait, the @monero twitter account is controlled by an employee of the company that purchased monero.com, and they are presenting themselves as a spokesperson for the project? That seems a bit much.

No

monero.com is cake wallet, not the official monero thingy

Its controlled by a few people, one of whom is sgp

(He is not the only person with access) we dont know who is tweeting right now

monero doesnt have a ceo unlike cardano

finding it hilarious that like, some random in the community (cause it dont have ceo) can just do @ceo of any cryptocoin and be like "fucking lmao, u need a ceo for a decentralized thingy?" 😹

like, is kind of a meme the whole "can i talk to the bitcoin manager?"

well, i guess it would be the ceo of blockstream so.... yeah nvm it doesnt work for bitcoin i guess

(satoshi is the OG sellout)

<spacekitty420[m]> "ur mom cray" <- please maintain the decorum and don't go much offtopic here, you can do that at #monero:monero.social

<devduck[m]> "please maintain the decorum..." <- wait what? how much scrolls did u do? are u in a time machine or somethin? u quoting something from like 2 days? why u pinging me like that? the fuck?

Lol

Rogue monero twitter

devduck: btw, since u on android, did it do the autocorrect thingy when you wrote your name?

<rayatina> "I'm trying to take some time off..." <- i have read this a 1000 times, will you stop spamming please?

devduck: like idk, just sayin maybe u a dick and it was like "autocorrect that mofo"

Oo

devduck[m]: you're the one spamming by quoting shits from 2 days ago dude, wtf are u even doing rn?

<rayatina> "I'm trying to take some time off..." <- What is xmr.homes?

found this: agorism.city

Sir, I have 2 ledger devices.  I have broken device and unopened device.  I converted my 24 words for monero to 25 words (electrum/monero) before it crashed on my broken device.  I don't mean passphrase.  There is a backup of 24 words that I have installed in Ledger, but there is no backup of 25 words for monero.  Can I access the same 60 monero assets with just 24 words without 25 words on the unopened device?

Banhammer BanhammerMonero

Siren[m]: I do not spam. Sir.

Sir. I don't do spam.

Sir, I have 2 ledger devices.  I have broken device and unopened device.  I converted my 24 words for monero to 25 words (electrum/monero) before it crashed on my broken device.  I don't mean passphrase.  There is a backup of 24 words that I have installed in Ledger, but there is no backup of 25 words for monero.  Can I access the same 60 monero assets with just 24 words without 25 words on the unopened device?

Please answer. Sir.

wait, yesterday this guy only had 30 "monero assets"

sech1: Sorry. My monero assets are 30.

he's making bank +30 XMR everyday

By wrong.

is this fluffypony lmao

Sir, I have 2 ledger devices.  I have broken device and unopened device.  I converted my 24 words for monero to 25 words (electrum/monero) before it crashed on my broken device.  I don't mean passphrase.  There is a backup of 24 words that I have installed in Ledger, but there is no backup of 25 words for monero.  Can I access the same 30 monero assets with just 24 words without 25 words on the unopened device?

lol, loser in chat.

Sir, I have 2 ledger devices.  I have broken device and unopened device.  I converted my 24 words for monero to 25 words (electrum/monero) before it crashed on my broken device.  I don't mean passphrase.  There is a backup of 24 words that I have installed in Ledger, but there is no backup of 25 words for monero.  Can I access the same 60 monero assets with just 24 words without 25 words on the unopened device?

s/60/30/

Hahaha, what an idiot.

CNMJ[m]: I will fuck your mom, your daughter.

Where are you?

CNMJ[m]: I will fuck gangbang your mom and your daughter.

You promised yesterday to visit me...

Haha, nah I think you are going to be a loser on the internet

I will kill all jews.

rabotat[m]: Madarchod teri maa ki chu

Forever nazi germany

I will kill you with samurai sword.

I'm going to stop responding, but just know that I'm laughing at you. Probably forever.

Sir, I have 2 ledger devices.  I have broken device and unopened device.  I converted my 24 words for monero to 25 words (electrum/monero) before it crashed on my broken device.  I don't mean passphrase.  There is a backup of 24 words that I have installed in Ledger, but there is no backup of 25 words for monero.  Can I access the same 30 monero assets with just 24 words without 25 words on the unopened device?

Please clear answer. Sir.

Sir, I have 2 ledger devices.  I have broken device and unopened device.  I converted my 24 words for monero to 25 words (electrum/monero) before it crashed on my broken device.  I don't mean passphrase.  There is a backup of 24 words that I have installed in Ledger, but there is no backup of 25 words for monero.  Can I access the same 30 monero assets with just 24 words without 25 words on the unopened device?

Same bat time,same bat channel

Please only clear answer.

Sir, I have 2 ledger devices.  I have broken device and unopened device.  I converted my 24 words for monero to 25 words (electrum/monero) before it crashed on my broken device.  I don't mean passphrase.  There is a backup of 24 words that I have installed in Ledger, but there is no backup of 25 words for monero.  Can I access the same 30 monero assets with just 24 words without 25 words on the unopened device?

Sir, I have 2 ledger devices.  I have broken device and unopened device.  I converted my 24 words for monero to 25 words (electrum/monero) before it crashed on my broken device.  I don't mean passphrase.  There is a backup of 24 words that I have installed in Ledger, but there is no backup of 25 words for monero.  Can I access the same 30 monero assets with just 24 words without 25 words on the unopened device?

Sir, I have 2 ledger devices.  I have broken device and unopened device.  I converted my 24 words for monero to 25 words (electrum/monero) before it crashed on my broken device.  I don't mean passphrase.  There is a backup of 24 words that I have installed in Ledger, but there is no backup of 25 words for monero.  Can I access the same 30 monero assets with just 24 words without 25 words on the unopened device?

Sir, I have 2 ledger devices.  I have broken device and unopened device.  I converted my 24 words for monero to 25 words (electrum/monero) before it crashed on my broken device.  I don't mean passphrase.  There is a backup of 24 words that I have installed in Ledger, but there is no backup of 25 words for monero.  Can I access the same 30 monero assets with just 24 words without 25 words on the unopened device?

Spacekitty please clear answer

idk, just try it

i dont know shit about ledger, the fuck you want me to answer?

Ocean and spackle please clear answer

Sir, I have 2 ledger devices.  I have broken device and unopened device.  I converted my 24 words for monero to 25 words (electrum/monero) before it crashed on my broken device.  I don't mean passphrase.  There is a backup of 24 words that I have installed in Ledger, but there is no backup of 25 words for monero.  Can I access the same 30 monero assets with just 24 words without 25 words on the unopened device?

Selenze please clear answer

the answer is yes btw, paste the 24 words in the other device

just do it and it should work

just do it

spacekitty420[m]: Do you mean the just 24 words for ledger device?

do it

yes

spacekitty420[m]: Thanks sir.

mam*, whatever, cheers

Paste it here and we can tell you

wouldnt recommend, prob just gonna steal those coins

oceanus: 😁

then instead of having obsessive disorder figuring the 24 words or 25 words thingy then prob will also end up suicidal or some shit

maybe ocean dont care if some chinese dude out there just off himself but would still suck u know....

My question may sound a bit absurd. For convenience, why is monero not included in ledger live?

no idea, you could send them a message and ask them, same way as with coinbase, why they dont include monero? no idea either

spacekitty420[m]: Never heard of the ledger wallet? Ledger nano x and ledger nano s plus.

i dont trust ledger

R.I.P

<spacekitty420[m]> "no idea, you could send them a..." <- Sir. Please don't ban me in this in channel. I am a knowledge hungry person. My favorite crypto is monero.

Back

BanhammerMonero: Banhammer

<spacekitty420[m]> "i dont know shit about ledger..." <- Never heard of the ledger hardware wallet?

No no

Please😪😪😪

Noo

😪😪😪😪😪

<spacekitty420[m]> "i dont know shit about ledger..." <-

Never heard of the ledger hardware wallet?

I ask out of curiosity.

Heyyy sir

🍌🍌🍆🍆🥥🥥

🍌🍌🥝🥝

Gangbang

🖕👌🍌

Nigar men fuck the ass hole of Old women

Monero

Ledger nano x - monero

🙁

Əzer

🇦🇿

🇹🇲🇬🇧🇨🇾

🇬🇧🇨🇾

<DanIsnotthemanBr> "BanhammerMonero: Banhammer..." <- ,?

Above

Siren[m]: dude is obviously out of the loop

I was mocking Neeraj's floating hand pic

Lmao who runs @monero twitter and why do they use it to be so salty about the backdoored cardano chain

Meeting in 3~hrs monero-project/meta #754 (please have your suggestions ready for monero .shopping 😀)

That's the same time as monerotopia?

do they always have monerotalk/topia @ 16:00 UTC?

IRC shows that the meeting will be held @ 16:00 UTC Saturday 24th September

oh thanks, wasn't aware , it should be "For next meeting info check: github.com/monero-project/meta/issues" to be safe

sounds good, that way we don't have to bother OPs everytime

<plowsof> "Meeting in 3~hrs github..." <- Make it 1000xmr even

good lord. where do i edit a file for getmonero.org ?

im trying to change the remote node page to point to monero.fail

and like there's just some syntax thing there that probably means the actual web code is i dunno where

" {% tf resources/user-guides/remote_node_gui.md %} "

like bro thats the file im trying to mod

ah fuckit i'll clone the repo and grep for it

gingeropolous[m]: also try #monero-site

do they have a matrix? ill find out

gingeropolous[m]: there are matrix people on there

when u leave IRC?

gingeropolous ill have a look

i made the change to the english one

i found the monero website matrix channel

im working on my IRC thing. the VPS running my ZNC brokt so im working on setting up a new VPS with all the stuffs

you're experiencing translation/weblate hell

gingeropolous made an issue so we dont forget, i can string replace moneroworld .com -> monero. fail everywhere if you want?

<rayatina> "is it going or went, i've been..." <- You've been gone for like 6hrs

<rayatina> "who's going to monerokon" <- Me :)

<rayatina> "who's going to monerokon" <- Me

I guess most of us are working on it

In one or another way

We host the email box, I was testing it out :)

<rayatina> "who's going to monerokon" <- me

I'LL BE THERE IN SPIRIT. HOPEFULLY NOT LITERALLY IN SPIRIT.

!tip cryptogrampy[m] hearing aids

> <@rayatina:monero.social> me

>

> are you working on it too?

yeah

cryptogrampy[m]: Canned grampy

me and Stnby are offering managed hosting for it

We also host cfp.monerokon.com Dont forget to call for presentations :)

rayatina: no as of now

rayatina: Probably

I think there is a board on Github stating what we lack

for what xd

artwork?

yes but that's for later, you don't need to host stuff for streaming now

Or what needs to be done

we still have ~6-7 months to deploy those

I'm working on it too. Doing the program and speaker contract

<monerobull[m]> "I'm working on it too. Doing the..." <- What is a speaker contract?

Meeting time : monero-project/meta #754

2. Greetings

hi everyone

Hello

hi

plug some news outlets while we wait : News: [Monero Observer](monero.observer) - [Revuo Monero](revuo-xmr.com) - [The Monero Standard](localmonero.co/the-monero-standard)

Hi

hi

Hello

meow

we've got some on-going drama with one of the ccs proposals (soloptxmr) but i'd like to cover the ideas first as it would probably take up the entire hour if we start with that

with that said....

a. [Forgotsudo monero marketplace](repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/340)

last-last-final call - we're closing this pending resubmission of Web Of trust only

agree?

<Stnby[m]> "What is a speaker contract?" <- Contact*

Confidentiality papers 😋

and we're closing b. [Develop selfhostable monero payment processor](repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/345)

, disagreements?

NDA

feedback requsted: c. [Monero Paper Wallets](repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/352)

seems like a lot of money for something that we already have

reg monero wallets*

I'll be there in a bit

yes the proposer has submitted an "example" design

> <@plowsof:matrix.org> feedback requsted: c. [Monero Paper Wallets](repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/352)

>

The designs aren't good enough

I think we should close it

i have contacted gnuteardrops - and being the kind soul they are they said they did not with to interfere with anyone elses ccs' , but, if we really need new wallet designs, they open to the idea

msvb also has an excellent wallet

an advanced one that is nuclear proof(tm)

yes :)

so, is there -anything- this proposer can do to win you over / change your opinions? is it not a case of "making a better proof of concept design"?

we also have xmr.gift #xmr.gift:matrix.org

need better write up

Did we vote on anything yet

nioc: These are more visually appealing to m,e

add decoy designs

s/m,e/me/

re-voting on closing forgotsudo/develop selfhosted (the one who wants money upfront)

so we have better alternatives already (compared to the example he has shown)

close

it is specifically for 'wallet restore' i must say* but i feel we have alternatives / more talented people than the proposer - i'd say close

we already have designers in the community that should have priority I guess

i agree +1 for rewarding community members who have contributed already

close too imo

close

I don't think we should pay 2k on wallet designs by a non-professional designer

lets move on, this one needs some feedback / thoughts

d. [Metronero checkout](repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/353)

Did the things get cleared up that needed clearing up?

ive left a comment with my initial thoughts / understanding of whats going on there , might help to have a look

plowsof: you understood it right Siren left a short reply

I have three main comments on this: 1) Does this solve the problems that most online stores have with using Monero? Frequently people in IRC or Reddit ask if there is a payment system. Does this solve it? Need research on market demand

checking

This was the tor-optimized BTC pay server alternative

rayatina: Huh?

Wdym? That's our real names

monerobull[m]: Yeah Javascriptless and C# less

2) I think this is "middleware", i.e. it requires an additional layer for a complete solution. This proposal would be more useful if it developed one example of that final layer, but also allowed other layers to be developed of course

* C# less And Monero as a focus as BTCPAYserver is not ideal

thanks for the comment Siren!

Rucknium[m]: What final layer are you talking about?

My only concern was, does it work with both viewkeys and RPC calls?

3) It looks like it relies on monero-wallet-rpc, which is unreliable. How will reliability issues be handled, and is there any way that upstream fixes to reliability issues be fixed?

monerobull[m]: Like serhacks wp plugin

If monero-wallet-rpc is unreliable, Monero is unreloiable

s/unreloiable/unreliable/

Rucknium[m]: Unreliable in what sense? Do you mean that it is not thread safe? Or do you mean that the output from it is straight up inaccurate? What?

monero-wallet-rpc talking to a remote daemon is unreliable*

It doesn't have to remote

very

however , moneropay has a health check built in?

It's up to the user

Merchants have to write POST requests, for example

plowsof: Can you comment on monero-wallet-rpc reliability?

Siren: so viewkey support?

Rucknium[m]: And?

Yes there is viewkey support

Can you point it at any xmrchain-style explorer? Wp plugin straight up didn't acknowledge payments while xmrchain was down

plowsof: there is an endpoint for health checks

monerobull[m]: it doesn't use public blockchain explorers for payment processing. it uses moneropay which relies on wallet-rpc server.

let me clarify a bit - it would be a "service" - hosted by a third party , that provides you with a payment gateway (they handle everything - e.g. their node will be local etc) - it will have 2 modes - one where you give them your view key, another , where you "withdraw funds" (custodial - where the host provider can take a small fee)

This is plowsof's comment in the proposal 4 days ago: "With Metronero - merchants still require a plugin to be created to actually 'use it' - If this is something that could be added/researched that would be ideal (I believe a plugin that provides the same functionality as monerowp would make this project complete, as it seems to be the one most widely used currently)"

OR you can be the "service" and host it yourself

Rucknium[m]: this is not correct

integration channel would be?

Rucknium[m]: Yes it might need a very simple plugin, but the issue is we cannot create a plugin for every system

however plugins for e-commerce would make it easier for people

yes how will it be integrated - how can someone "use" it - by creating something that makes POST requests - would you consider making a plugin for 1 e-commerce platform

and you will have to fight the community regarding "free maintenance" - we force you to make it paid (ask GUPAX) xD

what?

there are plugins already by monero-ecosystem

MajesticBank: plugins that are not functional at times because they rely on third party blockchain explorers

Bope

Nope

or btcpay server probably

They can use both explorer and rpc

must be 3 click integrate thing, make proposal wider I guess with plugins included

i would say most users point it at xmrchain (as its easier) but as we seen recently - it went offline - and so did peoples shops

MajesticBank: No one commented on the proposal apart from plowsof

We can provide syllius plugin

plowsof: My shop wasn't down, i just had to go in and mark orders paid mysel

we are just sharing feedback / sharing ideas (some people have only seen the idea just now)

Which was doable since the wp plugin doesn't round so amounts would be different by tiny amounts of picos

We could also write Prefix support for ticket purchasing in the future

Does it use integrated addresses?

no

subaddresses

Prefix is the "middle layer" we're talking about?

That's good to know. Wp plugin for example uses integrated addresses

plowsof: there is no middle layer, this is a checkout system like paypal or whatever

he seems confused on what this exactly is

integrated addresses is a bad way to do it, subaddresses are meant exactly for this

we want someone to make that thing that lets us use the thing out of the box

plowsof: everyones box is different

for example I would never but wordpress in my box of things

so we must decide on what we want the box to be

I want to know what a merchant needs to provide and if it's custodial it not

Rucknium: Take a look at one of the proprietary examples: coingate.com/integration

s/but/put/

s/it/or/

monerobull[m]: if it's not custodial he needs to provide viewkeys, if it's custodial just his address.

And does one need to set RPC connections or something?

This is basically an alternative to btcpayserver, yes?

monerobull[m]: if you're not the person hosting it, no

cryptogrampy[m]: yes

the service provider handles all the rpc/hosting stuff

and has the ability to host the service for other people?

yes

the service prov can be yourself , or a company

And anyone could host the custodial version for others?

Yes BTCPAY server just not written in C# and is Monero first and JSless (Tor Extreme settings friendly)

+ customizations on payment page look

monerobull[m]: yes

it's very complicated to setup as well

Cool, I'll become the darknets PayPal /s

so we need to decide on what we want the "let me use it for a shop that sells tickets" ?

I think it would be important to provide an integration with this

maybe wordpress or something

maybe not

just feel like we need solution for non-devs because devs can already figure it out on their own

if they are willing to integrate it into something (wordpress) or other, then we'll have to discuss that at a later time . solution for non-devs to use it yes

I liked how simple it was to set up wp plugin checkout

monerobull[m]: Not everyone uses wordpress, we don't for example

not sure who is end user of this

Just saying the experience should be similar for setup

So is this a layer on top of moneropay?

yes

MajesticBank: Larger players who want to accept Monero and have the payment paged look well integrated

s/paged/page/

or Tor people

When i set it up, i had no idea what RPC even is and i also didn't want to point it at my own node for privacy reasons

Siren[m]: including but not limited to

i don't mind the proposed api personally but as a compromise including a single working out-of-the-box integration seems fair

For example we are willing to write a plugin for sylius.com

This might be another dumb question, but if you're already building out a server with logins and templating, why not have the ability for merchant to add items/images/prices?

Not some obscure wordpress clusterfuck

wordpress aint even for e-commerce

if sylius can be shown to provide the same experience setup as wordpress then that would be ideal

prestashop, magneto, wordpress, open-cart mostly needed

World only uses Syllius and Magento

Stnby[m]: displaying items/images/prices pages should be handled not using a payment gateway

Who uses Prestashop?

Welcome to 1964

an agreement on Magneto though

Just helping to shape this well for benefit of the proposal

Hi

ofrnxmr[m]: Syllius is taking over

hi

I worked in the e-commerce space I can tell Its only syllius and magento

* and magento (big players)

ok so i think we've given our feedback on Metronero , to be up for re discussion , but we like the project (and moneropay team are capable / contribute to the ecosystem already)

we can add another milestone for writing a sylius plugin, I'm not sure about magento because it's mainly proprietary

MajesticBank: Self hosted paypal for Monero, plugins are easy to make/fork existing

I think everyone would benefit if there was a plugin built out in addition to this

i'd be much happier to get behind it

cryptogrampy[m]: Yes but not for wordpress just because someone worships it

I mean we can write it by forking existing one and changing 10 lines of code

Stnby[m]: yeah I think choosing a popular ecommerce solution as you suggested is fine and preferable

Well, small shops are mostly WordPress and if you're a big shop you use gateways that support multiple cryptos and fiat

I think people use wordpress because the plugin exists there

and it's fairly easy to setup

not because they like/know what wordpress is

or woocommerce

They use wordpress because they go to shared-hosting solutiuons

s/solutiuons/solutions/

and with metronero you won't be enough just with PHP

I use WordPress because woocommerce was easy to set up with the plugin

as monero-wallet-rpc is obviously not written in PHP

well...

right, not long left now to go through the other ideas, theres alot of feedback here for Metronero to look at

e. [selsta part-time monero development (3 months)](repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/354)

Fund

i think coincards uses wordpress

selsta isnt with us today

Stnby[m]: regardless of the reason why, many people run it. we can attempt.

Siren[m]: But syllius is priority

fair

+1 for selsta

selsta legit

One more pls

merge selsta

+1

+1 for selsta proposal.

Ok that's 6 yes

f. [xmr-btc-swap development and improvement](repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/355)

Next order of business

ive contacted binarybaron who is yet to comment. this proposal seems half baked / ill planned / money pit into an abandonned project / we've already sponsored someone else (binarybaron) to do this work

however the title is very catchy !

Does comit still have a future

no still un-maintained

and none of them are expert cryptographers

And this proposal is for comit right

I've contacted binarybaron, still at greetins point

plowsof: ^

for me this is a wait for binarybaron to explain himself (because weve paid him to 'make it work with a gui' )

Looks like a money pit to me. This proposal needs more time for feedback at least.

Ok next

yeah

Either postpone for clarity or close

g. [CypherPunk Radio](repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/357)

he's not in here ehh

do we already have a "radio"?

We have 2 actually

Or had

Idk nobody listens to them

Target audience for a tts radio? Nobody

Close

ive spoken with him, he wants to come to us with some code / proof of concept that hes been working on

sorry my internet is very slow

commit swap are not usable at this point, as website is disabled and GUI is forced on testnet only

all providers seems not to be working at this point

plowsof: Postpone?

majesticbank thats for raising this

Yo

NotMtth is here if you have any questions

other than wait for him to show some code?

Whether it works or not, it serves no purpose

I would listen to xmr radio but needs to be easy to use / listen

nioc: yes.. xmr.radio... but can confirm not many listeners... maybe 6 on a good day

its mainly a "video show" / community

agree on waiting for a poc first

i have move to i2p/tor only audio format

due to costs

News will collected by us and streamed using Text2Speech directly onto the dedicated room.

we need proof of concept / (i suggested to reach out to ajs to set up an example / hour show or something so we can "see" what it is)

but you're busy with monerokon at the moment

we need to "see" something

Postpone then?

otherwise its just an idea

till next meeting

h. [Bulletproofs++ Peer Review](repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/358)

full disclosure: i am not part of MRL or know anything about auditing

Fund

Within 4 weeks, if at all possible

MAGIC will probably fund additional audits

monerobull is funding this?

great

Fund

Nono

this is part of several funding roudns to integrate bp++ into monero and eventually seraphis. the selection process for who audited it was fair as i contacted several with previous work on monero and CypherStack where the cheapest and available

Last MRL meeting we can to rough consensus about need and scope for this. BP++ has a long road ahead of it and this is the first step.

Merge it

* have to be remote

Next

nioc: MAGIC will fund audits outside of the scope of this proposal

Probably

oh something actually to do with the protocol?

i'm out of the loop, is there a roadmap for when/who will implement this after the audit?

approve

monerobull[m]: sorry, bad joke

begin of december , it will take 12~ days

vtnerd is working on a proof of concept. koe will work on implementation

This CCS proposal is an initial check on the mathematics in the paper. The paper is written by a single person without any peer review so far.

If the math is incorrect and cannot be corrected, then that's the end of the line for BP++

And it appears this audit will be done by cypherstack

(?)

to be clear : when its merged the author will be Monero Research Lab - i ave merely applied feedback to a text document from the MRL team and contacted auditors on their behalf

there will be more than one paper review

ok sounds good

i. [j-berman full-time 3 months part 4](repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/359)

Fund

more a MRL decision

MRL have appproved it

jut sharing/clarifying with community

Tentatively support. Would like to see more comments/communication from jberman's fellow devs on the exact task list and scope.

Merge berman

yes i have shared it in the seraphis no wallet left behind room, awaiting their approval

Rucknium: agreed

which so far, from what ive read, they are supportive

shold i even mention monero shopping?

Yes

MRL supports the proposal to review the paper is good

So I can say burn it

ONE JILLION DOLLARS

yes to jberman

Close monero shopping a week ago

j. [MoneroShopping](repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/360)

monero shopping love the idea

All in favor of merging?

The idea is already live in Proxystore and way cheaper

Yeah. Nobody. Close it

next

the concept exists already yes but it was enjoyable to see

thats it, i now want to share Ruckniums update

I like daily dose of spam from him

* from him (10 emails from gitlab every morning)

Before we leave, I want consensus that plowsof should be able to collect his first milestone, and that mj should be collecting any more funds until the work is completed as initially proposed

Anyone against?

a Public version of ruckniums OSPEAD research has been released. i have not read it myself, but the first page seems 'reader friendly'

ofrnxmr[m]: never against plowsof

For those in previous -community meetings, the document linked here ^ contains the "Document A" mentioned previously, plus a lot of other research.

Mj should not* be

Thank you Rucknium!

^ This file

agree ooofrnxmr

i also agree with ofrnxmr, he is based

dont forget MoneroKons call for presentation submissions cfp.monerokon.com/2023/cfp (moneropay set this up right? and are even volunteering for further help?)

Uuhm

comments, suggestions for improvement

Is that already REALLY live?

plowsof: Digilol.net team :) but yeah same people as MoneroPay

Last time it wasn't

sorry, feedback for edits*

e.g. colour scheme? everyone was mean about the green

so it was changed/ better??

should be up officially after next week's planning meeting

The green was changed, nice

i like it

content?

llove it

Submission go to the monerokon emai

s/emai/email?/

this year, having a full 5 months for people to submit will be a huge improvement , thank you

I hope the event goes all well, really thrilled for it

I hope we'll have enough funds for Prague

i get an email alert

the edit to bursary funding , i like also, seems fair

If there are more IT tasks to be done for MoneroKon ping me or Siren :)

Anything you want to be hosted

Where would hours be logged?

funding for the monerokon to the roof

ajs , how many top sponsors can it have?

8kusd with only 2 spots?

3

3 spots now

3

thank you

check updated budget

It's also 3 days this time

here is the draft ccs by the way repo.getmonero.org/ajs/ccs-proposal…-2023-ccs-1/monerokon-2023-ccs-1.md

still wip

more sponsors the better

how would a sponsor get on the 3 list? - is blind bidding happening?

don't know yet

tbd

ok ok

First come first serve?

how to be first though?

open to ideas

Are there usually more sponsors than the allocated amount (is the demand such high)?

last event we just asked cake wallet and rino.io

there might be a bit more competition for the top spots this year (this is my guess)

Bidding is a good idea IMHO. Let the market set the price. Hopefully high enough to covers lots of cost :)

Oh so we approach first?

it's tight, we all love to support monero

last year was a bit hectic so....

not much time

to follow things/meetings about monerokon -> #monero-events:monero.social

footnote regarding twitter comment complaints - Complaints about the official Monero Twitter tweets/behaviour [logs](libera.monerologs.net/monero-community/20221119#c161084)

plowsof: Every single time someone suggests a different room, the conversation halts :)

if someone can make ccs for meetings calendar, that would be funded most likely

twitter went a bit

We already have a CCS-funded meetings calendar I thought: monero.observer/tag/calendar

Oh yeah Twitter

Not nice

Feels like this room is filled with grandmas :D, Twitter seriously?

I don't know what happened, but Twitter tweeting power should be more decentralized. Cake has too many things at this point.

The official Twitter account started swearing and shitting on the ada sidechain

silverpill with a new project called [Mitra](codeberg.org/silverpill/mitra) fediverse with monero tipping? eth wallet login? wat?

Monero self-hosted mastodon, when?

plowsof: It's cool but feedieverse has zero users

* It's cool but fedieverse has zero users

this mitra project has "completed" a bounty (that had zero funding) bounties.monero.social/posts/22/0-0…monero-tip-bot-for-mastodon-pleroma

Rucknium[m]: thanks, great thing

I'm thinking of spinning up a single-user Mastodon instance. I've been banned on Twotter since I created the account 🥲

Social networks like twitter and telegram do need some decentralization

Rucknium[m]: I was banned during the CoC adoption period.

* the CoC mass adoption period.

Stnby[m]: i was actually thinking about doing an "invite only" mastodon instance for monerokon.com as a perk for sponsors, VIP ticket holders, and CCS donors

*Twitter, I meant. Looks like meeting is over.

we've ran over on time so i will share the on going soloptxmr issue - gitlab comments [here](repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/c…als/-/merge_requests/299#note_19583) and Reddit [here](reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/yyohle…_report_on_ospead_fortifying_monero

ajs_[m]: Maybe, don't forget the speakers

plenty of reading and reviewing to do ! thank you all for attending

oh hinto

Thanks for hosting!

thx plowsof

Oh yeah we will try to look at existing Syllius, Prefix and WooCommerce plugins and maybe estimate time needed to have this in Metronero and possibly a 3rd milestone, we will be waiting for comments on the MR. Thank you everyone for feedback

xxx

unban rayatina yes/no

We are gentlemen for some of those "privacy" crypto projects. Was good meeting

plowsof: yes, my favorite turk

Stnby: of course, and volunteers as well

<plowsof> "we've ran over on time so i will..." <- Either close it, since its been taken over by a scammer

Or dont payout until its completed as initially proposed

Referring to solopt and mj's repeated attempts to undermine and take advantage of ccs and the community

He claims youre (plowsof) incompetent for not being able to solve the issue

The issue is simple - he tried to pull a fast one again, again, again, and got caught again, again. We've already paid him to go away once

Since when does a scammer get to just keep coming back for more, and getting it - simply because we refuse to say "no".

ofrnxmr[m]: This time it was way too obvious

Why is he refusing to comment on it? He literally was like here you go guys, I removed it now let's not talk about it.

The messages where he accuses people of incompetency and then himself hard coding versions without providing hashes was also a bruh moment

And you didnt tell your partner? I mean, employee? I mean, this is my project but im leaving early even though I specifically said I would not

Siren[m]: I think it would be a better look if he confessed to leaving that in by accident or somehow being half awake at the time of programming and messing up the maths

Mj claims its release ready, and in the same sentence called it a release candidate

It's too shady

Anyway.. its a huge waste of everyones time to spend everyday worrying about what mj wants

Mj. You deliver the pizza, you get paid. Kapeesh?

"In the most profitable way" 🥹20% net mining rewards loll

<Stnby[m]> "Monero self-hosted mastodon..." <- We have a Pleroma instance (also part of the Fediverse): xmrposter.club/about

<plowsof> "this mitra project has "..." <- I think the bounty description implies a hot wallet which can count tips and display received amount.

In Mitra, there's a donation button that simply displays XMR address when you click on it.

<silverpill[m]1> "We have a Pleroma instance (also..." <- This is probably the way to do it. A monero.social instance of anything fediverse would be cool, but people will get mad at moderation and stuff

Let volunteers run Monero themed instances and people can join based off of rule and moderation preferences.

May be wise to link all of them in the hangouts page though.

Hello, anyone knows how it would possible for me to use this Monero for Magento 2 integration eventho I am running php 8.1?... (full message at <libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/do…724445e9f0f8007c56baf5f9fad22722a41>)

FWIW, should be close to launching a Mastodon instance under the Monero Spaces workgroup. The recent unplanned influx has made it harder to provision HW in the final stages

should be able to auth the main monero account via the getmonero.com website.

Monero.social is available too?