> <@kastur:matrix.org> The fact is that the wallet is old and unused for some time. The amount of moneroj there is not moon but not trivial. Albeit not from any illegal activity or something similar. I left it unattended for some time and would be more happy to have in a more guarded wallet. My stupid.... (full message at <libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/do…0b6535d80678322a9b9532f4b35ffe5c7c6>)

* maybe use TOR principle....

* maybe use TOR-like principle....

How many arabic dialects does the xmr site support

Go check

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dEBRUYNE^

monerobull^

Approved

so quick, thank you! here is the post: reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/10dp1m…er_atomic_swap_node_gui_mvp_release

i dont get the alien/galaxy story line but looks nice

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farcaster TIL

I want to host an escrow service but have no idea where to start. I can't just use woocommerce because i want to be able to host it on Tor too

Metronero was supposed to be the btcpay for Tor 😭

woocommerce itself blocks tor?

was xmrsale supposed to solve your problem? github.com/xmrsale/xmrsale

plowsof11: No it just works really badly

WordPress isn't made for tor

Hm, xmrsale requires JavaScript

i notice a 'nojs' folder in BusyBoredoms acceptxmr github.com/busyboredom/acceptxmr 👀

i just don't know how to use it :(

a demo here, looks ideal busyboredom.com/projects/acceptxmr

Yeah looks great, no idea how to run it either

Looks like rust?

Yeah but without documentation on how to deploy I'm lost

imagine if we could throw xmrsale into the trash and offer the remaining 30xmr for acceptxmr to be made noob friendly / sponsor some maintenance

?

?.rs

<plowsof11> "imagine if we could throw..." <- You are the paid coordinator that never coordinates /s

<monerobull[m]1> "Metronero was supposed to be the..." <- metronero is on hold because we're working on a ATM that we are getting funding for

Don't worry, nobody would use my escrow anyways

Tom would

He'd also use rocador.app

And then complain

Ok so maybe Tom actually used my referral

And it showed up a few days later

I'll have new monerochan merch in 24h if everything goes smoothly

the doll?

No, that's still in production

It's the cheaper "i can't afford the doll" alternative

how much is the doll going to be again?

Depends on final quality

can you preorder the plushie?

No, you can only sign up for an email notification

I don't want to be called an exit scammer if customs intercepts and shredds my dolls

shittiest protocol for a crypto plushie

* crypto plushie announcement

I don't even know how I'll do the emails

Is BCC save to put everyone's email in?

I won't give the emails to some email delivery service and i feel like protonmail bans me if i send +100 identical emails out

animated videos update: reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/10e7pv…v/new_monero_animated_videos_update

I2p radio = closed

<monerobull[m]1> "Is BCC save to put everyone's..." <- I believe so but email = I dont care about opsec

Still don't want to leak the whole list to everyone 😅

Opensource

BCC prevents that, but I cant say whether its a perfect solution

i signed up with an alias don't worry (kinda shy about it - but i appreciate you respecting my privacy)

Plowsof.. alias? You mean sockpuppet

Fake plowsof

2ct email ring signature

<plowsof11> "i signed up with an alias don'..." <- I'll know plowsofs address

But it will be like a ringct

When the doll order has a way higher anonymity set than a monero transaction 🗿

monerobull: Don't think BCC will work, you have to comply with SPAM laws. aka have some sort of link etc. to cancel subscription and far more things like even your business address on the footer in some countries.

If the people are opt in, id use BCC regardless

If I was doing something like this, I'd ask for matrix usernames instead and be hassle free

I know what you mean though. 😆 we used to do some illegal business via email and had to comply with spam laws

We used the to field back then. So that if anyone wanted to rat, everyone knew

ofrnxmr[m]: spamtec bandit

Stnby[m]: Laws lmao

Also you have shitty spam lists that block everyone

It clearly stated you'll receive a singular email and then never be bothered again

The shitty spamlists like spamhouse etc. Can see that you are sending a lot of emails, most of your emails will land at like 5 different smtp servers. Gmail, Outlook, Proton and thats probably about it

What's the best way to go about it then?

RSS feed ftw

comply with spam laws and use whitelisted services like sendgrid.com

Or try to avoid email at all cost. RSS works !

Just use matrix

It's a one-time thing so i thought it would be alright

Tx extra

.. jk

Siren[m]: I already have the emails though

Yeah too late

Message them from cockmail

Those have a zero percent chance if getting delivered, ever

It might work for some. Just try to craft a legit looking email. There are some online guides

s/if/of/

But yeah the unsubscribe thing is mandatory

Which email provider are you using?

Stnby[m]: I'm just deleting the emails after I've sent it the announcement

* I'm just deleting the emails after I've sent out the announcement

monerobull[m]1: SPAM scanners don't know about this. Add a fake unsubscribe form in that case

It is such a mess

How do private emails ever arrive if it's so bad?

monerobull[m]1: You don't send a private email to 5 different people at the same time. Those get flagged instantly also content of it is usually much different

Its just gambling/luck

marketing emails are often send not at the same exact time but at random intervals

I know for a fact I would receive that email (because we maintain our own spam filter). So I don't have to worry. 😉

I'll just send 2 emails with half of the addresses in BCC each and announce on reddit/4chan a day or something like that later

I doubt they'll sell out within a day anyways

How many will there be?

100

Or more 99 bcs I'll keep one

<monerobull[m]1> "I'll just send 2 emails with..." <- whats BCC? Isn't it the ticker of Bitconnect? I fail to understand how that's related

its a feature of email lmao

monerobull: oh

when you CC someone, everyone can see the other email addresses youve sent to. bcc hides them

<plowsof11> "i notice a 'nojs' folder in..." <- Yeah AcceptXMR works great without js. I really need to dockerize it so non-rust-devs can use it, I've just gotta set aside a couple weekends 😅

<ofrnxmr[m]> "sgp: we need proxy feature in..." <- cake-tech/cake_wallet #285

But more importantly

Can I get some feedback on my lastest video?

I have thick skin

this thing looks very weird

and also, everything will be moving right? right now with still images its not great

I like it in the cage

Huh, thats not how I imagined your voice ofrnxmr

I really appreciate you contributing content for once, instead of putting everybody else down as usual

Well you'll ve disappointed to know that isnt my video

Nor my voice, and im still at it

🥲. Sorry

I feel betrayed 😭😭

Its ok, at least now I know how you really feel about me 🎯

needs moar xmr bewbs

its a love hate relationship ofrnxmr

you really need to balance your vibes

Love hate sounds balanced

0 to 100, I dont do 50%

0 to 1000* interweb way

Nah, im worse irl

gray_philip:

I do not understand?

I didnt know it had this

<gray_philip> "Join and message the admin for..." <- Sir, do not joking please? I do not understand

tell me

Sir

Answer me 🤬

gray_philip: I am very interested. I do nit understand sir

What is admin

Answer me 🤬

plowsof @plowsof:matrix.org:

gray_philip: is making me angry. Please explode him 😡

Do i need a 25 seed phrase?

I dont know 😡. gray_philip: if I give you my 25 words can I win

mundane baffles gadget popular inwardly aquarium onward illness agreed thwart trendy bootyhole piloted guide rapid hemlock dizzy upwards isolated recipe juvenile border cage mundane hairy

Like that?

gray_philip: wownero or monero seed?

Please help

What do i do

Please, you can you send me dm

I have 300xmr and 0.25btc

I spent so much on it

I just want to get my money back

Im not smart, please send me DM and help

My country no telegram

Send dm

sgp:

Signal or gtfo

Isent Treema better than Signal? 🧌

<gray_philip> "No" <- Maam how can I convert my 25 seed phrase to 24 just for u??

gray_philip: my seed is:

`used banner despair traffic speak girl tattoo later enhance roast sunset make tomorrow shrimp huge consider`

restore height: 0

pls help me

noo why you banned him?

i wanted him to lose half his life recovering seedphrase

im restoring it, don't want him to steal my monteros!

FYI if you guys are familiar with tornado cash, they are still running and also have a matrix server now under tornadocash.community

link doesnt work, nice

does*

kinda obvious that they are still running, and we can search up the official website by ourself, thanks

s/ourself/ourselves/

Ok cool, also is that wownero?

spacefreedom[m]: No, it's Tornado Cash

xfedex[m]: No, your pfp

just kidding... it's a mix of xmr and wow

xfedex[m]: I've read about them, the project seems very cool, I'll run a node soon, I think I'll just rent a VPS at some point and run both a monero and wownero node at the same time if it's possible.

(Even though I am locally running as often as possible)

spacefreedom[m]: Nice

As long as you are not in the US it's fine

> <@xfedex:matrix.org> Nice

> As long as you are not in the US it's fine

Shit like that makes me want to go to the US and see what happens.

Hey everyone

wait wot, i just noticed tornado cash is not on coinmarketcap anymore

This room is bridged to irc, so using the reply funcrtion on matrix is a bit taboo

its f'ing illegal

^^

(the reply function)

IRC is terrible

My xmr node is ofac compliant ;)

I'll help the community how earn $30k within 3 days and hours but you will reimburse me 10% of your dividend when you collect it. Note: only interested people should involve.

immediately

@CEOPatelPalmer

He wanted to help us make 30k >:(

Fack. Plowsof is keeping the money for himself again

the animated videos proposal is amazing, can't wait for the finished product "so I'm thinking of changing it from 1k per minute to 2k per video which would be roughly $400 per minute in result"

Of all the communities this probably would be the dumbest place to try a money scam.

They probably just search for all crypto-related channels and post in all of them. Even the research lab channel gets this spam

Confirmed: you can run monero and wownero nodes on the same comp simultaneously

Wasn’t someone looking for docs on running acceptxmr?

Btw, that video i shared is part of a 400$/minuted ccs for animated videos

Onlyfans is cheaper

But.. do you get this on onlyfans?

This is on the official monero channel, for those who didnt notice

> <@ofrnxmr:monero.social> But more importantly... (full message at <libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/do…282324a0089438548829681369e792ce659>)

Dan (Is not the man & Braxman Tomsparks Advocate): its down from $1000/minute

would be nice to funnel xmrsale funds into acceptxmr and give the community something useful / maintained, had an informal chat with busy earlier asking about what work / improvements can be done (to make it user friendly) - we also have the monero-wordpress proposal open for contributors to work on the remaining milestones

ofrnxmr[m]: No fucking way this is the final product

I dont think it is, but its not animated AT ALL

don't worry Siren , i can explain

The whole video is a bunch if still images of weird shit

It is an animatic, not an animated video yes

Animatics are still images but he did not render them properly

It's all very noisy

im sure this explanation clears everything up

I have no idea what that video is supposed to be

Yeah that tells me he has been probably getting assets off of somewhere else and that he doesn't know how to render or use blender extensively

$1000/minute

5% is for the voice actor though so its not too bad

Bad part is I don't see any credits

I really am confused what the video is supposed to be

Siren[m]: Although it takes 10 mins to research how to denoise in blender

Don't let him get away with that video

Tell him to share the .blend file at worst

He needs to rerender

Its uploaded on monero YouTube

he realised he cant do it yesterday though, don't worry

2 weeks after the video he realized he cant do it

<ofrnxmr[m]> "Dan (Is not the man & Braxman..." <- Show Boobs and sold

Why don't you pay me? I have better renders 😭

This is what I typed out before I realized that it wasn't ofrns work (at which point I didn't know the price tag, lol)... (full message at <libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/do…e62609552e43901a207ef2632d1e46e491a>)

That covers up to 1:20 I think

And only the content, not the production quality

Why didnt you comment earlier :(

Lol

s/it/people may not directly think its a scam/

Was happy to tell me it was bad but not tell the truth?

Have you paid him already? 👁

Pooing on your video

Thats why im "different" than some of you. Ill say what I gotta say no matter who its about

Escrow

ofrnxmr[m]: because you have the habit of shitting on everybody, even if they work for free

Only willing to be honest if its mine or if its $400/hr

I have no problem being mean to you, but if I'm mean to others I want to make sure I hit the mark

ofrnxmr[m]: I didn't see this masterpiece before

Excuse me?

I shit on people who work for free?

I shit on scammers, aka they dont work for free

Siren no

ceetee[m]: Thats real honest of you 😆

I'm not mean to people, im just honest, always

Don't pay for that, take that money and go to fiverr

If your list of issues is "being mean", the world will never progress

ofrnxmr: its not about this example, but in general. Again, if its paid we can demand quality, but I was thinking you were making fun of some poor contributor working for free and doing his best

If it wasnt for me, youd have kept your mouth shut and let stuff like this go for $2000 an hour

In an asshole because I expose nonsense 🐒

I definitely wasnt. And wouldnt.

> <@ofrnxmr:monero.social> But more importantly... (full message at <libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/do…0a6e2890df0fe470aa3e672de4b0c77e3d1>)

s/paod/paid/

I didnt have to

I said it was unpaid and you were willing to tell me your thoughts

I bring out the best in you

Knowing its paid doesnt matter

If its 1xmr or 1000xmr, a scam is a scam

If its me or plowsof, IR doesnt matter

Its called being unbiased. So much bs goes on at a Hugh level because people are afraid to look bad by being honest

If it was unpaid, by a person I didn't know and who was new to the community, I'd appreciate the fact that they tried

ceetee[m]: no matter how their first submission turned out

Its on the monero channel ceetee🇧🇪:

And you were happy to give ut to me straight if it was my first submission

Why didn't you mention it was paid though?

their original animations (which made me support this) where nice , and alot of popular youtubers use them in their videos

You could've just said that

Yeah the originals were 2d

Way better looking tbh

Because I question who actually made that video

s/?/?, you could've just said that/

Once again, 2d beats 3d

indeed, now theyre trying frostbite3 engine quake remastered

Anyway, no hard feelings ceetee

DooM3 floating eyeball bag of meat

in a cage

ofrnxmr[m]: Because I fucking know you and I treat direct people with the same directness; how hard is that to understand?!

plowsof @plowsof:matrix.org: needs those comments though

And it shouldn't take me playing games to get it out of you

ofrnxmr[m]: same 🤝

Just frustrating that people complain that there is 4 oriole making decisions

the original 2d animations are used throughout this video yewtu.be/watch?v=7-aTYyEVlNk

Yup

So this latest video was shocking to say the least.

And I can be rather rude.

Nobody else is going to say what needs to be said, so k had to ssl what you all though about my video, and preface with it that I have thick skin

Because. .. those responses are the same that you should ve telling the proposer. Whether it is $1 or $10000000.

This isnt a charity or some high school shenanigans

This is a multi billion dollar currency

When we vote, vote like its important

i think its very kind of ceetee to give that constructive criticism earlier (i thought everyone had seen this video already)

Whether I was a nice guy or an asshole, that is what I need to hear

enough for ofrnxmr to improve upon and impress us with the next version IMO

(What ceetee said about the video).

I need to hear direct SBD honest criticisms and appreciations of the work

I cannot improve if people are afraid to hurt my feelings

.. and again, everything you decided not to say, was constructive

could we maybe change the "eyeball bag of flesh in a cage" to maybe something monero related like 'a rotating coin' or something? otherwise not too bad (re-render it to remove the noise as siren suggested - and work on those errors ceetee pointed out and it shuld be ok)

ofrnxmr: if you want my honest opinion on quality, pls preface it with "This is paid work" or similar.

Because I will not bash some poor kid trying his or her best for free (done that before, won't do it again); and I simply don't have the time to research the creator before every comment

Give me a few minutes plowsof, I still have to review the last 30-40s

You wrote all of that

And then decided not to post it. None of it was bashing

If you want the kid to fail, your doing the right thing by not telling him yourbhonest opinion.

You have this weird idea in your head that I would ever come and try to burn someone maliciously

I was that poor kid once

Never have I ever 🤔 at least not that I can remember.

lol no, not in the monero community

but it can be heartbreaking to see your work be torn apart by some idiot on the internet, although you did your best and have learned a lot in the process

Give me some credit

i remember being 14 and hosting services, looking for someone to take me under their wing and show me the way .. i was shunned.. laughed at, nobody believed in me, until i met a friend who was obsessed with hardware wallet seeds

look at me now

look at me now 6 months later*

Use 25 word seed phrases

Yall confuse malicious with honesty

ceetee[m]: Ok but not if we pay for it expecting the same quality as 4 years ago

The lying nice people get away with $100k exit scams. If they were more honest, like me, they'd get scrutinized

plowsof @plowsof:matrix.org: did I not tell you this was a major issue

Cruel to be kind?

ceetee[m]: Reminds me of computer graphics class at university

PTSD inducing

Honest, hard working slaves get scrutinized. Smile in your face, guilt trip scammers get away with whatever they want, regularly

ofrnxmr[m]: thats the hate love, because feedback is crucial, but must be mild enough so that people don't stop trying.

Once you accept paid work, you puppy protection time is over and you have to defend your work based on quality

No, puppy protection is dont before you get the job

Done*.

You dont go to funding with puppy protection.

You come to the table with it. You start the job knowing what you need to do. Not just fuck around for 3 years kn purgatory

> <@ofrnxmr:monero.social> But more importantly... (full message at <libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/do…60e7036513a1e063b48b3b96c7f64fd6687>)

* Looks AI generated honestly, at least the pictures

Looks that way because of fireflies and noise

Id believe it.. doesnt seem like any thought was out into the choice of the images

> <@ofrnxmr:monero.social> Done*.

>

> You dont go to funding with puppy protection.

that's what I said

I kinda like how surreal it is

The animatic

* thats the hate love, because feedback is crucial, but must be mild enough so that people don't stop trying.

Once you (the creator) accept paid work, your puppy protection time is over and you have to defend your work based on quality

i will make sure the feedback is passed on to savandra - they didn't have to say 'they realise they need help' - honesty is at least one step in the right direction - room for improvement 😁

And cmon, I cant draw anything

plowsof11: He should look into denoising and he can use PBR for things like coins to make them 3D.

for example that usd cent would have looked better if it were PBR

I had this commissioned for me Diego Salazar:

that's NFT quality

ofrnxmr[m]: you should definitely head over to opengameart.org take some character bases and make them into nfts!

and then submit a CCS proposal for that

Support the artist.

plowsof @plo fuwsof:matrix.org: full feedback to the vid:... (full message at <libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/do…6f56ce3b926e1a08a0528d911f74055f1ac>)

And if youre ever too shy to be rude, feel free to tell me and ill be rude for you ♥️

"Are you ceetee's alt too?!" Muhaha

Also if this is paid work, that is supposed to be "official", basically the entire thing is problematic, because it is weird. The last thing merchants want is more risk and more uncertainty, and this video does exactly induce these feelings

yes the eye ball bag of flesh looked sad in that cage

Plus it offers zero help for the actual adoption part

right

y'all don't get it he's using repetition as a rhetorical device when he says "adopt monero for your buisiness"

he's clearly trying to hypnotize the merchants

I get it, and I still scratch my head

Maybe im hypnotized

Because now I want to adopt monero

"Sir, do you understand"

yes.

It's a cool & memorable video, but yeah most of it is not actually super useful info for end users if that was the goal.

it said twice that monero was free

I want my free monero

Monero is free

in your heart ♥️

ofrnxmr[m]> And if youre ever too shy to be rude, feel free to tell me and ill be rude for you ♥️ <<>> sounds like a good business

"I meant fee like freedom, not like free lunch"

It doesnt pay very well, but hey, it gets the job done