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MajesticBank
rather then trying to implement monero atomic swap using farcaster, having more protocol is better
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ofrnxmr[m]
monerobull @monerobull:matrix.org: get our here!!!
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ofrnxmr[m]
Out*
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monerobull[m]1
what
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ofrnxmr[m]
Is basicswap both directions for monero?
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monerobull[m]1
not yet but they made it a big point that they are working on it
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ofrnxmr[m]
Ok, thanks
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plowsof11
can they just use farcaster and enable it? maybe?
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monerobull[m]1
farcaster is by hashed right
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plowsof11
yeah
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plowsof11
i never trust 'working on it responses though lol
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monerobull[m]1
and the initial atomic swaps (comit) too?
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ofrnxmr[m]
plowsof11: Cough, Cake wallet, cough
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plowsof11
working on it is just , dont ask me about it for at least a week
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ofrnxmr[m]
It means "im not working on it"
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plowsof11
i dunno hashed's involvement with comit , i know kayaba mentioned his own at the early stages but eventually left
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monerobull[m]1
i mean basicswap already delivered the best implementation of atomic swaps we have right now
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plowsof11
comit protocol is not just for monero... i reember seeing grin.. and other coins
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monerobull[m]1
they said they used hashed's initial design
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plowsof11
ok ignore everything im saying about basicswaps (i have no idea)
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monerobull[m]1
i think they are probably following farcaster real close
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plowsof11
farcaster definitely works - once they iron out the ux things
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monerobull[m]1
#basicswap:matrix.org
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monerobull[m]1
i dont think we need a comit gui at all
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ofrnxmr[m]
Is basic is using comit, then we definitely dont..
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monerobull[m]1
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plowsof11
and im going to assume that farcaster = hashed... i dont like this, i have no idea
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plowsof11
too many acronyms
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monerobull[m]1
plowsof11: you would be correct
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plowsof11
but i assume the 'new' version is 2 way
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plowsof11
i mean ive seen it with my own eyes
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monerobull[m]1
my canon timeline
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monerobull[m]1
and yes farcaster is 2way
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nioc
7 hours of scroll back. How many hundreds of posts is that? lol
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nioc
wonder what it will be by the time I can get to it sometime tomorrow
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plowsof11
are you using at least version 0.18.0 of the cli/gui wallet nioc (if your sync has fell behind this could be the issue)
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DanIsnotthemanBr
How many nodes will need to be run to use all these projects :/
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ofrnxmr[m]
All? Why would you use the ones with 0 liquidity 😝
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ofrnxmr[m]
Can probably use 1 node per coin that you plan to use
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ofrnxmr[m]
And point basic, comit, and fsrcaster at the same node (?)
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aurum
Fast Growing MuOnline server season 6 ep3 100x custom
mu-vita.com
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monerobull[m]1
Is anyone here buying into the Maya launch
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monerobull[m]1
They kinda lost me when ready dropped monero and instead will now launch with dash, kuji(wtf is that) and the rest copies copied from thorchain
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monerobull[m]1
s/ready/they/
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monerobull[m]1
Bcs it's easier
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monerobull[m]1
If they wanted to be a real contender, they'd have finished the haven thorchain integration and launched with monero
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monerobull[m]1
But i think their team just kinda sucks so they went the easiest route possible
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jwinterm[m]
what's maya?
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monerobull[m]1
Thorchain fork
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monerobull[m]1
With some really stupid ideas tacked on
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monerobull[m]1
They initially wanted to copy the terra Luna model
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monerobull[m]1
Now they have "redesigned" that to be supposedly secure against death spirals
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monerobull[m]1
By introducing FIVE stablecoins
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ofrnxmr[m]
monerobull[m]1: Haven is garbage
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monerobull[m]1
Just look at this hilarious page in their 111 page long white paper
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plowsof11
mmm chocolate dollar
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ofrnxmr[m]
Milk, almond, butter, sugar, chocolate
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ofrnxmr[m]
Ive seen enough
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monerobull[m]1
I think they have 7 tokens in total
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monerobull[m]1
Oh no
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monerobull[m]1
They have Maya, cacao, atztec and the 5 stablecoins
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monerobull[m]1
So 8
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ofrnxmr[m]
So 0
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as2333
>copy the terra Luna model
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as2333
LMAO
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monerobull[m]1
They have this fancy Maya token
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as2333
hard to think of a more idiotic scam
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BusyBoredom[m]
Because obviously merchants love supporting multiple currencies. The perfect global currency must be fragmented across as many tokens as possible /s
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ofrnxmr[m]
as2333: ^Mil
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monerobull[m]1
Which gets 10% of cacao fees (what rune is for thorchain)
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ofrnxmr[m]
There's probaby a reason I dont know about Maya
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monerobull[m]1
And it's very fairly distributed, obviously
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ofrnxmr[m]
Where dud you find it, wish.com?
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monerobull[m]1
Look at how big they make the 90%
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monerobull[m]1
Kek
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monerobull[m]1
And then in reality 80% goes to the devs
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plowsof11
dev fund -> devs get 10%
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BusyBoredom[m]
I love the early node fund. It's like "come on guys, it just needs to run long enough to pump!"
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monerobull[m]1
ofrnxmr[m]: In my desperation for a xmr liquidity pool dex i stumbled over them
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ofrnxmr[m]
plowsof11: 8%
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monerobull[m]1
Bcs they absolutely LATCH onto thorchain twitter
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monerobull[m]1
Maya is the token that gets 10% of cacao network fees, don't forget
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monerobull[m]1
So every time you make a swap, on Maya, 80% of a tenth of your fee goes to the devs
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ofrnxmr[m]
ofrnxmr[m]: 0.8%****
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ofrnxmr[m]
10% of 8%
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plowsof11
a pie chart wouldnt be so mean though
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monerobull[m]1
And the other 9 tenths are used to prob up their stablecoins or something stupid like that
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ofrnxmr[m]
monerobull[m]1: U can stop shilling shitcoin now pls
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plowsof11
right, 0.8% lol wow
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monerobull[m]1
It's funny
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monerobull[m]1
I need to calculate the best way to make money from this
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ofrnxmr[m]
Was funny until you realize they are serious
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monerobull[m]1
Bcs rune holders get Maya airdropped
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ofrnxmr[m]
R u drunk?
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ofrnxmr[m]
Or are you Faustina?
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ofrnxmr[m]
* Or are you rayatina?
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monerobull[m]1
But rune holders can essential opt out of the airdrop by using their rune as liquidity and get cacao instead
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monerobull[m]1
Crypto names, so funny
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ofrnxmr[m]
Who has rune or wants shitdrops?
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monerobull[m]1
I have rune
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ofrnxmr[m]
#shitcoin-offtopic
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monerobull[m]1
Bcs i thought theyd add monero soon 😭
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ofrnxmr[m]
You're clearly drunk
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ofrnxmr[m]
For months
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monerobull[m]1
No it's just 3 am
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ofrnxmr[m]
Why would you imagine such a fantasy?
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ofrnxmr[m]
Thorchain adding Monero? Centralized shithole, what atevwe even talking about
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monerobull[m]1
Still better than using a cex
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ofrnxmr[m]
How
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ofrnxmr[m]
They dont have privacy coins lmfao
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monerobull[m]1
No KYC
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ofrnxmr[m]
Cash ?
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ofrnxmr[m]
Fiat*
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monerobull[m]1
That's what Haveno will be for
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ofrnxmr[m]
So why mention kyc
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ofrnxmr[m]
I can get monero with no kyc from a cex
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monerobull[m]1
Bcs instant swappers can still hit you with the shotgun kyc
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ofrnxmr[m]
Kucoin, tradeogre
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monerobull[m]1
Look, i just think liquidity pools are a pretty cool thing 🤷♂️
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ofrnxmr[m]
And no, if you send monero you never get hit with KYC, and if you send stolen shitcoins thats your own problem
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ofrnxmr[m]
Shouldn't steal non fungible tokens then try to use my service tl wash em
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monerobull[m]1
Thorchain savers seems to be doing tremendously well
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ofrnxmr[m]
#shitcoin-offtopic
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monerobull[m]1
4% any on BTC
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plowsof11
anything less than 500% api im not interested
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ofrnxmr[m]
Who gives a damn what eth tokens do
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ofrnxmr[m]
Lfg' apecoin
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monerobull[m]1
* 4% apy on BTC
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monerobull[m]1
I had like 80% apy on thorchain pools before
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monerobull[m]1
When they launched avax, the usd pool was that high
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ofrnxmr[m]
Ive had 19k Apr on futures before
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monerobull[m]1
I've turned 50$ into 2 eth with a reddit nft
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ofrnxmr[m]
Wen Shitcoins trading channel
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plowsof11
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monerobull[m]1
I had terra
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ofrnxmr[m]
"Had"
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monerobull[m]1
Got that juicy 20%
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ofrnxmr[m]
Wtf
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plowsof11
blood money
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plowsof11
lol
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ofrnxmr[m]
R u seriously drunk
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monerobull[m]1
Then after like 2 months i was "let's trade that into xmr"
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monerobull[m]1
That was 3 weeks before the collapse 🤗
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monerobull[m]1
I've used thorchain to cash out the terra for BTC and then went to ogre
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monerobull[m]1
s/'ve//
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monerobull[m]1
I still remember shilling the 20% Apy to my dad kek
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ofrnxmr[m]
Have any non shitcoins/services tl tall about
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ofrnxmr[m]
Anything monero related?
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monerobull[m]1
I obviously didn't think it was sustainable, just assumed it's VCs pumping money into terra and to take it while they still do
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monerobull[m]1
ofrnxmr[m]: Have you seen my newest video
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ofrnxmr[m]
Haven is trash, and thorchain is a joke
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plowsof11
im glad Monero is just money - and anyone who talks about adding staking / scripts gets laughed out of the door
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monerobull[m]1
SeraiDex, my true love
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plowsof11
i consider 'apy' the same as the lottery - a tax on the poor
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plowsof11
paid upon collapse usually
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monerobull[m]1
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ofrnxmr[m]
plowsof11: ^ this
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ofrnxmr[m]
Serai works with a trusted model too, doesnt it?
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monerobull[m]1
Sadly, yes
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ofrnxmr[m]
There is no perfect Dex solution without cross chain atomic swaps
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monerobull[m]1
At least in the bootstrap phase
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monerobull[m]1
ofrnxmr[m]: That's BasicSwap
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ofrnxmr[m]
I mean, that works
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ofrnxmr[m]
In both directions. ...
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monerobull[m]1
But it's annoying to run right now and trades are slow
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monerobull[m]1
ofrnxmr[m]: Should be in the future
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monerobull[m]1
Probably before haveno launches😅
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ofrnxmr[m]
Yeah. At which point ill still never swap monero there 😆😆
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monerobull[m]1
ofrnxmr[m]: Of course not
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ofrnxmr[m]
Who's trying to walk away with tainted coins
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monerobull[m]1
Well
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monerobull[m]1
I have made diagrams already
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ofrnxmr[m]
I use Fixedfloat and other KYC services to ensure I get clean shitcoins 👍
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plowsof11
our 10 block lock means you are at risk of falling asleep during atomic swapping
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monerobull[m]1
On how to perfectly wash coins between all the available dexes
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ofrnxmr[m]
This is how I do it: I dont use dirty coins
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monerobull[m]1
But you can sell clean xmr
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monerobull[m]1
For a 10% markup
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ofrnxmr[m]
All xmr is clean xmr
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monerobull[m]1
And sell the dirty coins back into a liquidity pool
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ofrnxmr[m]
I see what youre saying, but why would I do that
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ofrnxmr[m]
I dont trust Thor milkchain almost chocolate
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monerobull[m]1
Money!
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ofrnxmr[m]
Id rather not lock up my coins on a protocol that is afraid of the govenrment
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monerobull[m]1
I've tried to arb stablecoins on thorchain
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monerobull[m]1
My 1k UST got stuck onchain
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monerobull[m]1
I had to message support in discord...
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monerobull[m]1
Twice because at first they didn't believe me
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ofrnxmr[m]
Sounds decentralized
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ofrnxmr[m]
"If your dero swaps fail, msg is and we will fix it manually"
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as2333
1-800-NSA
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ofrnxmr[m]
Serious
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monerobull[m]1
They rebroadcasted the transaction or some shit and only then it went through
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ofrnxmr[m]
Red flags all over the play
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ofrnxmr[m]
So they censored your tx :)
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ofrnxmr[m]
Unintentionally = can do it intentionally
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monerobull[m]1
I mean if your protocol is shit, sure, that can happen
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ofrnxmr[m]
Yeah, lets lock NY fund uo
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ofrnxmr[m]
Knowing they can easily stop a tx
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monerobull[m]1
I just think liquidity pools are so damn awesome 🥲
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ofrnxmr[m]
Sounds like binance for paranoid people
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ofrnxmr[m]
Except doesnt support privacy
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ofrnxmr[m]
Proof of stake is your thing then lmao
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ofrnxmr[m]
Better stack some zec
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monerobull[m]1
Nooo
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monerobull[m]1
Not Apy based on inflation
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monerobull[m]1
Apy based on swap fees 😎
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ofrnxmr[m]
POS is based on liquidity..
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ofrnxmr[m]
The more locked up, lower circ..
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ofrnxmr[m]
Pos gets tx fees...
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ofrnxmr[m]
Its the same shit, same smell, same dog, different leash
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monerobull[m]1
Yeah but I'm taking about liquidity pools
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monerobull[m]1
Between different assets
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monerobull[m]1
For swapping
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ofrnxmr[m]
I understand "just out your money there and free money when people need to use your money!"
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ofrnxmr[m]
I out 160 usd and 1xmr and now I get money everytime someone wants to buy or sell xmr!
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monerobull[m]1
Yes :)
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monerobull[m]1
Only in that case 1 xmr ans ? Serai
-
monerobull[m]1
s/ans/and/
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ofrnxmr[m]
Monerobull
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ofrnxmr[m]
I highly advise against glueing your own money for these purposes
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ofrnxmr[m]
Open a ccs for 100k
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monerobull[m]1
Good idea
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ofrnxmr[m]
s/glueing/using/
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monerobull[m]1
We could name it "help bootstrapping serai" or something like that
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ofrnxmr[m]
"Monerobull and sgp yacht fund"
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monerobull[m]1
Lmao
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ofrnxmr[m]
If ercicione can gamble why cant i....
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ofrnxmr[m]
Actually, I bought a house last year
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monerobull[m]1
ofrnxmr[m]: And he got a bailout lmao
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ofrnxmr[m]
Multiple bailouts..
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ofrnxmr[m]
Then tried to call Diego a bad actor 😆
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ofrnxmr[m]
Telling people "dont use stack wallet"
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ofrnxmr[m]
But yeah. Monerobull needs a ccs for at least 25k
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ofrnxmr[m]
I have more confidence in a ROI that is positive for monero, is bull flips 25k
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ofrnxmr[m]
Vs the meth drinking video
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ofrnxmr[m]
Gamble on the Oscars and hope people read the credits for 25k
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ofrnxmr[m]
Id rather gamble on monerobulls liquidity fund
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ofrnxmr[m]
Then we buy yacht, and do a Monerokon CRUISE
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monerobull[m]1
That sounds cool
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monerobull[m]1
In the movie there is a cowboy hat
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monerobull[m]1
And it has more screentime that the monero coin
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ofrnxmr[m]
You forgot spolier alert
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monerobull[m]1
We are also getting majorly diminished returns by funding the movie
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monerobull[m]1
"Monero" is already in the credits in the form of bears song title
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ofrnxmr[m]
And like.. we already have bears song
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ofrnxmr[m]
Why dont we pay him directly 💀
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ofrnxmr[m]
All of these influencer busting their ass everyday for free
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monerobull[m]1
plowsof @plowsof:matrix.org: is the movie permissively licensed
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ofrnxmr[m]
And were going to pay someone who says Bitcoin
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ofrnxmr[m]
monerobull[m]1: No reply
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ofrnxmr[m]
If it was, youd be able to share it
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ofrnxmr[m]
Rofl
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monerobull[m]1
I saw all but one songs have creative Commons
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ofrnxmr[m]
This proposal is DEAD if I cent watch it immediately
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ofrnxmr[m]
monerobull[m]1: Well then its dead
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ofrnxmr[m]
4 All work must be licensed permissively at ALL stages of the proposal. THERE IS NO TIME WHERE YOUR WORK CAN BE LICENSED UNDER A RESTRICTIVE LICENSE (EVEN AS YOU'RE WORKING ON IT). Your proposal will be TERMINATED if this is not remedied.
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ofrnxmr[m]
This is the rulez
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monerobull[m]1
While bears song plays there is bare Booba on screen 😳
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ofrnxmr[m]
Oh. In that case I may change my vote
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ofrnxmr[m]
But yeah. If the movie isnt freely available under a permissive licence, then its dead
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ofrnxmr[m]
I need to be able to take any part of the movie, right now, and use it as my avatar
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monerobull[m]1
Did you guys know the director is geonic
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ofrnxmr[m]
So THATS who is replying and calling people socks
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ofrnxmr[m]
Burn it with fire
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monerobull[m]1
I realized after trying to find out how he helped with monero means money
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ofrnxmr[m]
geonic0:
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ofrnxmr[m]
geonic1: geonic9: is it you replying
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Siren[m]
was monero means money supposed to be a film?
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monerobull[m]1
George Nicholas -> geo nic
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monerobull[m]1
Felt real smart when i found that out
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ofrnxmr[m]
Ahhhhh
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ofrnxmr[m]
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ofrnxmr[m]
He liked this fud bullshit
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ofrnxmr[m]
So, from me to george: fuck you, coward
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ofrnxmr[m]
Such a shame when people act like shitbags when doing business
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monerobull[m]1
Siren[m]: It was a talk
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Siren[m]
I remember trying to watch it because someone called it a monero movie
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monerobull[m]1
But it appears it was turned into a film to play at empty movie theaters during the lockdowns
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Siren[m]
and it turned out to be just slides
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Siren[m]
I was very disappointed :D
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monerobull[m]1
So they apparently briefly were like #1 movie in cinema or something like that
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monerobull[m]1
Im in the credits in my head canon eventhough i joined xmr like a year later
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monerobull[m]1
Some named MB is in the credits so that counts
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Siren[m]
idk was very boring video
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plowsof11
monero means money was being played during lockdown?
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monerobull[m]1
In empty Theaters it seems
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plowsof11
i thought that was years ago, but lockdown was also years ago, im old?
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monerobull[m]1
Lockdown was 2020
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xenu[m]
plowsof11: the lockdown was twenty years ago
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plowsof11
lmao
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monerobull[m]1
We have 2023
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monerobull[m]1
🙂
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xenu[m]
Monero is still a $160 stable coin
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monerobull[m]1
Always has been 🔫
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Siren[m]
plowsof11: mUSt bE tHe vACciNe
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monerobull[m]1
In April my shop turns 1
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monerobull[m]1
Ok i should really take my 3 hours of sleep i have left
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monerobull[m]1
Nice chat everyone. Tomorrow I'll read the Maya 2.0 white paper
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monerobull[m]1
Maybe I'll find something funny
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ofrnxmr[m]
Monero meet will be fun tomo
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monerobull[m]1
If i dont fall asleep 4 hours before that
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DiegoSalazar[m]
I was pinged?
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ofrnxmr[m]
Yeah, just talking shit about ya
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ofrnxmr[m]
Jk. Just mentioned that someone else was
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ofrnxmr[m]
Have you seen the new movie by Geonic?
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DiegoSalazar[m]
No?
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monerobull[m]1
DiegoSalazar[m]: Matrix really shouldn't ping on regular text by default
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DiegoSalazar[m]
impossible to talk shit about people, yeah
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monerobull[m]1
Monerochan: is great
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monerobull[m]1
.@ monerochan
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monerobull[m]1
The name is all fucked up when you try to tag it
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ofrnxmr[m]
DiegoSalazar[m]: Its finished. 25k to bring it to the oscars
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ofrnxmr[m]
What do you think?
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ofrnxmr[m]
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ChanceBaker[m]
hi
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ofrnxmr[m]
Welcome.
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ChanceBaker[m]
ofrnxmr: hi
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ChanceBaker[m]
hi
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DiegoSalazar[m]
hmmm
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ChanceBaker[m]
DiegoSalazar[m]: d
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DiegoSalazar[m]
das me
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ChanceBaker[m]
Diego Salazar: yea
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plowsof11
i assume Binance bot is going to start DM'ing people trying to scam? Chance Baker explain this weird behaviour
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ChanceBaker[m]
haha
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ChanceBaker[m]
5 hours left
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ChanceBaker[m]
lmao
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ofrnxmr[m]
Chanceeeeee
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Siren[m]
25 words haha
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ofrnxmr[m]
Who may you be
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ChanceBaker[m]
hehe
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Siren[m]
Trolled
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ChanceBaker[m]
a sec
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ofrnxmr[m]
Chance is my alt
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ofrnxmr[m]
Right chsnce? Join now or forever hold your peace
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ChanceBaker[m]
</>obstruct ha>c><k limited
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ofrnxmr[m]
Boring
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ofrnxmr[m]
:( ofrnxmr says play with me
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ofrnxmr[m]
You dont sound like golden0. Are you someone that doesnt like me 😀
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ChanceBaker[m]
phew
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DanIsnotthemanBr
Word ban=25word
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sgp[m]
Monero Meet today at 1pm CT (~4 hrs from now). DM me if you want to join the discussion!
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michaelizer[m]
Did it begin?
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ofrnxmr[m]
Yes
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ofrnxmr[m]
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Siren[m]
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Siren[m]
I will seed it myself using 5 Gbps uplink
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monerobull[m]1
luckily it will have a permissive license 🗿
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ofrnxmr[m]
Why wont he acknowledge my existence 😡
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monerobull[m]1
custom css to remove containers that include your name
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ofrnxmr[m]
Ill get my 24 or 25 friends to comment 😡😡😡😡😡
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Siren[m]
My wife and my alts
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ofrnxmr[m]
Sgp's wife*
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ofrnxmr[m]
jwinterm @jwinterm:magicgrants.org: no permissive licence = no ccs
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Siren[m]
If you really fund something non-free like this
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Siren[m]
I really reeeally hope that the general fund fucking dies
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Stnby[m]
We will seed it regardless of the license
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ofrnxmr[m]
No permissive license = I will pirate
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ofrnxmr[m]
I will even sneak into the movie theater
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ofrnxmr[m]
Jk ^. I wont be in new york
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plowsof11
thats F'ing illegal
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ofrnxmr[m]
Not in my country
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monerobull[m]1
ok guys, we dont want to advocate for breaking any laws meant to protect interlectual property. cool it with the all that FOSS-infected talk 😊
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plowsof11
we've got pirates in -community (who are not anonymous taunting people) and in -monero the last message was something about crime is great
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ofrnxmr[m]
I need screenshots for my new avatar
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plowsof11
can we chill pls
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ofrnxmr[m]
Lmao
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ofrnxmr[m]
Me and Monerobull leave for 2 hours and look what happens
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Siren[m]
you'll be able to watch it on yts.mx
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jwinterm
ofrnxmr[m]: did he decline to license it differently?
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monerobull[m]1
wait whats going on
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jwinterm
when did that rule become a rule anyway?
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Siren[m]
forever
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ofrnxmr[m]
jwinterm @jwinterm:libera.chat: hes ignoring questions regarding it, which is against thebrules
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jwinterm
what was the license for chinese forum or music production company thing?
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jwinterm
ok
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Siren[m]
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ofrnxmr[m]
#4 , at all times it must be permissive licensed or else temrinated if bot remedied
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selsta
did we fund music in the past?
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jwinterm
the fluffypony thing?
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plowsof11
Zcash anthem?
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Siren[m]
the what
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monerobull[m]1
if we "help a movie get to the oscars" by raising funds as a community the community deserves to see it
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ofrnxmr[m]
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monerobull[m]1
plowsof11: i wish zcash anthem was ours
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monerobull[m]1
zcash zcash 🎶
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plowsof11
is it permissively licensed
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ceetee[m]
ofrnxmr[m]: you could throw out that one song and replace it with something else
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monerobull[m]1
well i wouldnt have paid the 50k for it
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jwinterm
heck I can't remember what it was called
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ofrnxmr[m]
ceetee[m]: The entire production has to be
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monerobull[m]1
plowsof11: Mr Dixit hasnt taken down my video yet
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ofrnxmr[m]
Is the video permissive ? Can I share it? No
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ofrnxmr[m]
What is the license? Is there one?
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monerobull[m]1
i believe so far its unclear
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ceetee[m]
wdym, ofrnxmr? He has the raw files, he can mix another song in
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ofrnxmr[m]
There must be if it is being taken to the Oscars and/or theater
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ofrnxmr[m]
There are multiple licences on any production
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ofrnxmr[m]
A simple song doesnt change whether the master production is permissive
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Siren[m]
monerobull[m]1: That song is licensed under CC Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International
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Siren[m]
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jwinterm
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jwinterm
ffs days
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Siren[m]
coral reef is a failure
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ofrnxmr[m]
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selsta
the Amanda B. Johnson monero song was the best
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jwinterm
sure, also chinese forum thing was definitely in same time period, so probably both ccs, assuming the licensing rules were in effect from start of ccs
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jwinterm
*both pre-ccs
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ceetee[m]
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Siren[m]
he can
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monerobull[m]1
> <@siren:kernal.eu> That song is licensed under CC Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International
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monerobull[m]1
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monerobull[m]1
thanks. do i have to put the share alike thing in the description or can i ignore that
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Siren[m]
not sure
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ofrnxmr[m]
Siren[m]: But will he?
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ofrnxmr[m]
Wont even post the public video link
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Siren[m]
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plowsof11
is the Amanda B song the 'all the way' song?
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ofrnxmr[m]
How permissive is "you cant share it"
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monerobull[m]1
always ahve
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monerobull[m]1
* always have
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selsta
plowsof11: someone had cut up her video on monero to a song, but as far as I can tell it's lost
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ceetee[m]
ofrnxmr[m]: well its obviously extra effort and changes the creators vision - so I doubt he'll be happy with it. If he's not open to it, he can close the proposal
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ofrnxmr[m]
He doesnt have to close it
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ofrnxmr[m]
If he isnt comfortable with sharing it immedietly😃 the terminology used is "terminated"
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ofrnxmr[m]
Not suited for ccs, period
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ofrnxmr[m]
There need be no resources spent on ineligible proposals
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Siren[m]
so many weird people like his proposal tho
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Siren[m]
like except jw since he didn't know about the policy
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Siren[m]
what's up with these guys lol
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plowsof11
cant shame those who don't support or do support something , no bully
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ofrnxmr[m]
Johnny > check history
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ofrnxmr[m]
Maxksrock > alt lmfao
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ofrnxmr[m]
Doug > pr
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ofrnxmr[m]
> jwinterm just liked
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monerobull[m]1
at least one is likely a sockpuppet
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jwinterm
I liked when I made my comment
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ofrnxmr[m]
One is 100% a sockpuppet
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jwinterm
only one I don't recognize is macsrock
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ofrnxmr[m]
Looks familiar
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ofrnxmr[m]
Same sentence order and everything lolz
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jwinterm
ser r u implying that macsrock is a big fan of cake?
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ofrnxmr[m]
Sir, this is not about a bad trade
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jwinterm
johnny mnemonic is super og actually, like fifth poster on bitmonero thread
bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=563821.msg6151158#msg6151158
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Siren[m]
if that's Vik's wife 24/25 will come after her
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ofrnxmr[m]
Why come out of the shadows for Geo
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jwinterm
maybe they are friends
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ofrnxmr[m]
Go away my opportunist
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ofrnxmr[m]
Mr*
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ofrnxmr[m]
Exactly lol
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jwinterm
I think chamus and geonic pretty good buds
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jwinterm
tbh I only come to ccs when someone tell me too also :P
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selsta
22:57 <jwinterm> I think chamus and geonic pretty good buds <-- explains a lot
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plowsof11
im going to get elon musk to comment on my proposal
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jwinterm
I don't think there's anything wrong with asking people to come out and support you
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jwinterm
unless that is also against ccs rules
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jwinterm
then it is terrible
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ofrnxmr[m]
Yes
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Siren[m]
It kinda sucks when someone invites their buddies and they tell other people here with negative feedback that they're gatekeepers
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ofrnxmr[m]
The rules say: permissive
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ofrnxmr[m]
Your friends know its not
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ceetee[m]
jwinterm: "Take a look, honest opinion pls" is fine imo
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ofrnxmr[m]
When asked real question, accused if being socks and gatekeepers
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plowsof11
why would i have a fight or flight response? a ccs is introduced with massive positive support and financial backing in the comments - i then see a simple choice strawman and im framed as a gatekeeper
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ofrnxmr[m]
(Agree with Ceetee, no problem with HONEST reviews etc, but literally just trying to shoehorn your way in is ridiculous)
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ofrnxmr[m]
Everybody with an opinion that isnt "fund it" is a gatekeeper
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ofrnxmr[m]
We have standards
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ofrnxmr[m]
Like, we dont support proprietary or non-free shit
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jwinterm
yea I think that is fair
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jwinterm
I am too lazy to change my vote tho
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ofrnxmr[m]
Is it fair to mark your vote as "yes if permissive?" And obviously cant even vote otherwise
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jwinterm
sure
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ofrnxmr[m]
(I might even vote yes if permissive )
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Siren[m]
If permissive all fine
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Siren[m]
Just another thing I'm wondering is that how similar is the plot to the real event?
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Siren[m]
Another thing is that end credits isn't good enough, try to get him to say it in a dialogue
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ofrnxmr[m]
Permissive = we shall be able to watch, and my maybe could turn to a yes yes or a wtf no
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plowsof11
the real event being the 4 sips at border control / interaction with the guards?
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Siren[m]
yeah dead child
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jwinterm
clearly I like read to vik's comment and then jumped to the end :D
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Siren[m]
My fear is that we will get cancelled because of that
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jwinterm
ofrnxmr[m]: yea if there is someway to distribute for free but monetization is only allowed by geonic maybe
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monerobull[m]1
Siren[m]: Well the actors for the border patrol look a lot like the real ones imop
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monerobull[m]1
But according to the courts, they did nothing to deserve punishment
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ofrnxmr[m]
Court paid parent 1milliob
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monerobull[m]1
While the movie shows them as encouraging him to drink it
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monerobull[m]1
ofrnxmr[m]: But they weren't found guilty
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ofrnxmr[m]
Alex Jones ran stories on sandy hook and got hit with > 1 billion
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monerobull[m]1
Which is what matters
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ofrnxmr[m]
monerobull[m]1: Of course not. They settled and took the money
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ofrnxmr[m]
Winning a settlement = you won
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monerobull[m]1
I doubt we would get in any trouble if the border guards sue so i don't really care
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Siren[m]
Yeah ok I just don't want stuff "Story of a child who died from meth overdose used to promote a cryptocurrency" :D
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Siren[m]
* Yeah ok I just don't want headlines like "Story of a child who died from meth overdose used to promote a cryptocurrency" :D
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ofrnxmr[m]
The parents would sue
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Siren[m]
yeah the parents might not like thi
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Siren[m]
s/thi/this/
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ofrnxmr[m]
Making their kid look like a strip club visiting whatever else tje kid does in the movie
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monerobull[m]1
Cool how you can portrait a conflict between two parties and risk getting sued by both at the same time
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plowsof11
ive not asked if the parents have been contacted / aware
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Siren[m]
ofrnxmr[m]: this too
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monerobull[m]1
The movie also portrait him as a slight homophobe
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ofrnxmr[m]
Even worse
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Siren[m]
well what the fuck
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ofrnxmr[m]
The parents might snap if they arent ok with that
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plowsof11
but this is monerobulls subjective opinion
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monerobull[m]1
What no
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plowsof11
sir
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ofrnxmr[m]
Monerobull is god
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ofrnxmr[m]
Because I cant see the video
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ofrnxmr[m]
If bull tells me its full of trannies, ill vote based on that
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ofrnxmr[m]
monerobull @monerobull:matrix.org: I asked for video too, why he no send me 😡😡😡
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ofrnxmr[m]
I asked nicely "show me immediately "
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monerobull[m]1
No he has a friend in the movie and you could think he might be gay but it's not really laid on thick
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plowsof11
omg you assumed
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plowsof11
joke lol
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monerobull[m]1
And then when the friend tells the main character his new friends are sus he basically calls him a faggot in a nice way
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ofrnxmr[m]
Geonic fucked up by not posting the video
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monerobull[m]1
And storms off to go clubbing to the crypto bear song (i am not 100% sure if i got the timeline right)
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ofrnxmr[m]
Now all I have is third party reviews 😂
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plowsof11
remember the part where they stormed the beaches of normandy
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ofrnxmr[m]
Guessing Geonic doesnt have kids?
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Siren[m]
underage clubbing too?
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ofrnxmr[m]
Id be pissed is someone made a movie about my kid
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monerobull[m]1
Oh yeah he's 16
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Siren[m]
kekw
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nioc
the actual tapes of the event does show him taking several sips and the border people signaling to do so
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nioc
also never has a border guard ever been found guilty of anything
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plowsof11
true 4 sips
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ofrnxmr[m]
Taste like ass
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monerobull[m]1
monerobull[m]1: And does coke and there's Booba on the screen and it's basically a GTAV cutscene, which i thought was dope
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nioc
you guys are reaching so hard
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monerobull[m]1
The potential lawsuits aren't our problem, were just chatting
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ofrnxmr[m]
Resching? Have you ever seen a movie that was made about a dead kid that did begin or end with "all proceeds were donated to the family of"
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plowsof11
the real footage - the guards are laughing as he takes the sips and the female 'gestures' to drink
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nioc
very chatty, I can't catch up lol
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ofrnxmr[m]
That didnt* begin or end with
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Siren[m]
it's bad to portray him in the movie as a druggie
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Siren[m]
the kid was probably trying to snuggle meth out of poverty irl
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ofrnxmr[m]
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ofrnxmr[m]
First Google result
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ofrnxmr[m]
Life Story Rights - When you're pitching a true story based on a person's life, or specific event(s) in their life, it’s important to have their permission. This can be done with a simple letter of agreement that outlines your exclusive right to develop, pitch and sell a movie around their life story. Ultimately it will be the production company or studio who proposes a deal with all the fine points of participation, and you
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ofrnxmr[m]
want yourself locked into that agreement by having the exclusive life story rights secured before shopping the story to any Studios, Networks or Producers.
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monerobull[m]1
The movie made the main character also look VERY stupid. His grandpa paid off the kids debt at the smuggler boss and then the guy still goes to smuggle the meth on what looked like principal without any need
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ofrnxmr[m]
Aka what is the license
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ceetee[m]
its difficult to sponsor it in a way that doesn't make us look like douchebags
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ceetee[m]
Thought about about what explanation I'd put next to our logo but didn't come up with anything good
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ofrnxmr[m]
Ceetee, you've watched it right?
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ofrnxmr[m]
Bull and plowsof have, siren and myself have not
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ofrnxmr[m]
Your last comment is based on actually watching it?
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ceetee[m]
I don't have access to it, but I did see parts of it, yes
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ofrnxmr[m]
Not the whole thing?
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ceetee[m]
My last comment was written afterwards
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ofrnxmr[m]
Has anyone seen the whole thing?
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monerobull[m]1
I did and i assume most others too
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monerobull[m]1
(who say they have seen it)
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ofrnxmr[m]
Okok, so just Ceetee got clips
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ofrnxmr[m]
Or who knows 😆
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ofrnxmr[m]
Permissive my ass
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ofrnxmr[m]
Share the shit mufakkas
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ceetee[m]
ofrnxmr[m]: *seen
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ceetee[m]
don't have any file, nor assess to the files
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ofrnxmr[m]
:(
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plowsof11
if all of us havnt seen the movie, none of us have
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monerobull[m]1
I too have seen the club scene someone illegaly (?) leaked before watching the movie 👻
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plowsof11
this is all subjective , my interpretation vs anothers
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monerobull[m]1
* I too have seen the club scene someone illegaly (?) leaked before i got access to the movie 👻
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xenu[m]
What movie are you guys talking about
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ofrnxmr[m]
Vs the parents*
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ofrnxmr[m]
xenu[m]: Geonics new movie
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plowsof11
monerotopia screening wen?
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ofrnxmr[m]
Screening? We'll have a copy to play, wont we
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ofrnxmr[m]
Going to make it viral
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monerobull[m]1
Btw it sounds like I'm totally shitting on the movie but the cinematography was very good, the acting good enough that you don't really notice and while i think the monero placement isn't that amazing it's true that it doesn't really need to be name-dropped by the actors
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monerobull[m]1
If i didn't have any context to the movie and just watched it on YouTube I'd probably think that while there are some weird parts the movie was entertaining and made me aware of the real event which I'll look into now
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monerobull[m]1
I most likely wouldn't look into Monero but that's not the goal of the movie in the first place
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DanIsnotthemanBr
they explain why they used monero?
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DanIsnotthemanBr
or just "use monero" next scene
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monerobull[m]1
Because the director likes Monero and has been around in the community for quite some time
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monerobull[m]1
It's an alright "storytelling device" (?) to symbolize that the main character could still have a lot of potential but went down the wrong path or something like thag
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monerobull[m]1
s/thag/that/
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monerobull[m]1
Although it pops up kinda out of nowhere or at least i didn't notice an attempt to give it a backstory deeper than "the character kinda just has it"
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ofrnxmr[m]
<DanIsnotthemanBr> "or just "use monero" next scene" <- They dont use monwro
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ofrnxmr[m]
Its a physical gold coin
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kinghat[m]
what mov are you all on about?
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jwinterm
ofrnxmr[m]: if everything is imagined except for the final scene, then in my IANAL opinion he could probably get away with "based on true events"
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monerobull[m]1
*With the monero logo
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monerobull[m]1
Like the ones on AliExpress
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jwinterm
particularly if parents are poor and live in mexico and don't speak english
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monerobull[m]1
jwinterm: The movie is in Spanish kek
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jwinterm
tbh probably even if it is his life story probability of legal repercussions very low
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jwinterm
ohya lol
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DanIsnotthemanBr
need subtitles for me
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monerobull[m]1
Legal trouble doesn't concern us anyways. At best our reputation as drug money is at risk
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monerobull[m]1
DanIsnotthemanBr: There are
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plowsof11
2 attorneys have advised and its not an issue im told
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DanIsnotthemanBr
is one you and the other your alt?
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jwinterm
sure but everyone likes to pretend they are a lawyer
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jwinterm
prefaced by IANAL
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monerobull[m]1
This might sound bad but it would probably benefit us if geonic gets sued for it. We would get at least a coin desk article or two
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ofrnxmr[m]
jwinterm: They won 1mill. Not poor anymore. Plenty of lawyer money
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jwinterm
good point
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jwinterm
also good point
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jwinterm
probability of geonic getting sued markedly higher
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plowsof11
we refused cryptonews as a monerokon sponsor though, noooo who will run the story now
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DanIsnotthemanBr
washington post
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monerobull[m]1
If the border patrol officers lawyers smell money, they'd probably sue for defamation too
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monerobull[m]1
Or something similar
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kinghat[m]
vijeo sirs?
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jwinterm
apparently it is a closed screening
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monerobull[m]1
While we know the movie probably portrait the scene quite accurately, the court doesn't agree
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kinghat[m]
are there deets in some location?
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monerobull[m]1
You can ask geonic for them
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kinghat[m]
nvm i dont really care
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monerobull[m]1
This is about the future of monero ok, please care very much
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Rucknium[m]
Now for something relevant to another CCS proposal (Molly). Signal plans to implement usernames:
mastodon.world/@Mer__edith/109752228095431253
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Rucknium[m]
> We're working on usernames now, which will allow people who use Signal to keep their phone number private from those they talk with. You'll still need a phone number to register for Signal (this helps control spam, and imports a social graph of sorts, both v important). Usernames will address the biggest issues we've heard from people.
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plowsof11
does valldrac know about this?
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DanIsnotthemanBr
yeah i think so cause it been out for a while
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DanIsnotthemanBr
s/it/its/
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valldrac[m]
plowsof11: They are working on the username at least since last year. I guess it will be released next quarter or so
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plowsof11
the comment is from today though
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plowsof11
ohh ok thanks
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DanIsnotthemanBr
fun fact i have had amazon send me a message on signal
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nioc
amazon doesn't have my phone #
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nioc
I am sure Jeff knows where to find me
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DanIsnotthemanBr
yet*
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ofrnxmr[m]
mark of distinction commented on a discussion:
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ofrnxmr[m]
Retaliation against a proposer if certain conditions are/aren't met is a bit much, don't you think? Especially when those conditions are outside of my control. You've asked and have received a link to the film in what I presumed to be good faith. I hope you'll delete the copy of the film you kept as insurance. Having the film available online will disqualify it from film festivals, etc, otherwise I don't care much and want it seen
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ofrnxmr[m]
by as many people as possible.
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ofrnxmr[m]
Having it up on YouTube as one out of 1,000,0000 videos uploaded this year doesn't achieve that goal. My other three films are freely available online and there is no reason to believe this one won't be, after its festival run. I've offered (private) screenings at MoneroKon and Monerotopia. I'll comment on the licensing question separately.
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ofrnxmr[m]
Tldr
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ofrnxmr[m]
No its not permissive
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ofrnxmr[m]
"Please delete?"
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ofrnxmr[m]
Who needs any further comments.
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ofrnxmr[m]
Permissive = why would I delete it?
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ofrnxmr[m]
```
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ofrnxmr[m]
All work must be licensed permissively at all stages of the proposal. There is no time where your work can be licensed under a restrictive license (even as you're working on it). Your proposal will be terminated if this is not remedied.
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ofrnxmr[m]
```
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ofrnxmr[m]
Notice how it says "all stages". That means, idea, funding, in progress. Not skip all 3 because im geonic
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DanIsnotthemanBr
controlling where it is viewed, seems like a restriction of use
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ofrnxmr[m]
DeLetE IT
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ofrnxmr[m]
... yeah.. delete your ccs rofl
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ofrnxmr[m]
This CCS is to fund the marketing of the film, not the film itself. All marketing materials will be permissively licensed (trailer, publicity stills, etc.) That's the best I can do.
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DanIsnotthemanBr
fck that
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DanIsnotthemanBr
market yourself
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ofrnxmr[m]
Dan, will you go to new York to watch it?
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DanIsnotthemanBr
not from fckn aus
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ofrnxmr[m]
How do I watch it from uk
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geonic
easy. you donate and get a private screener link.
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DanIsnotthemanBr
here we go
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ofrnxmr[m]
Why would I do that?
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geonic
1 piconero is enough
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geonic
because you want to see it, you said?
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geonic
otherwise don't.
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ofrnxmr[m]
CCS =/= the movie
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ofrnxmr[m]
Is this bribery?
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geonic
that's if it moves to the funding stage
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ofrnxmr[m]
You read out statements from reviewers that were hand picked by you
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geonic
and you distrust all of them?