is anyone using busybordem acceptxmr?

I've had a few people reach out to me with questions about using it, but I haven't seen any finished websites using it besides my own so far. The up-front cost of setting it up is high since you need to write your own webserver integration in rust if you're using it in a website.

Most people use BTCPay with the Monero plugin currently

Bitcoin (₿) was accepted by Unicode, I wonder if they would accept a Monero character

There's ɱ but it's has it's own usage other than a currency symbol while ₿ is dedicated to BTC

was curious if anyone else was using your acceptxmr intergation

Interesting new article on recent US bahavior: piratewires.com/p/crypto-choke-poin…17&isFreemail=true&utm_medium=email

* Interesting new article on recent US behavior: piratewires.com/p/crypto-choke-point?utm\_source=post-email-title&publication\_id=55605&post\_id=101709817&isFreemail=true&utm\_medium=email

Not surprise to most of us here, but much useful info.

s/Not/No/

One would think ftx was planned

<123bob123> "One would think ftx was planned..." <- Personally believe this is the case, to ruin retail confidence in crypto and justification of legislation.  Classic problem, reaction, solution.

> <@123bob123:matrix.org> One would think ftx was planned

* Personally believe this is the case, to ruin retail confidence in crypto and justification of legislation.  Classic problem, reaction, solution.

wtf

I have like $1 worth of BTC there

rip

<nioc> "localbitcoins.com..." <- 🦀

"how dare customers stop using us after we implement kyc"

lol, I have less BTC on localbitcoins than their withdrawal fee

Scammed

Sue tf out of them if they're in EU

They are registered in Finland

sue them for 5 SEK? Nah

You can get more out of the lawsuit probably

And they might get fined

<cockliuser[m]> ""how dare customers stop using..." <- It's sadly not their fault

EU requires everyone to do forced KYC

I had to shut down muchtips.xyz because of dumb EU laws :-(

you cannot make a meme site because according to EU it will be used by evil darknet hackers to do money laundering... so you need to force KYC or close it

So they were a custodial service?

Or were they also handling fiat?

<cockliuser[m]> ""how dare customers stop using..." <- kyc more like kys

LBC KYC is on since 3-4 years if not more.

Maybe they stopped because some news said that drugs cartels where using it to load on cryptos like a month ago or something

LBC added new feature like less than a month ago : twitter.com/ElizabethHopk14/status/1622576675237011457

Maybe it was state forced shutdown?

s/ElizabethHopk14/LocalBitcoins/, s/1622576675237011457/1616918083532361730/

<Siren[m]> "Scammed" <- They gave a withdrawal time of 12 months apparently

They are going to steal sech1s dollar

50 cents!

what is cake doing

re-inventing open alias?

<᷾s> Let's be honest most people don't have a clue how to setup dns let alone openalias

<᷾s> Plus Twitter bios are more reliable than third party services offering OpenAlias addresses

Dns also costs money and isn’t a one time fee

Unless you use a Yat 👀

i mean yeah

but twitter bios already work

this seems to be something new

with mapping addresses to domains/tweets or something

which im not sure how theyll implement securely

Yeah seems like it will be a brittle integration

But I’m okay with companies trying out stuff

Doesn’t wownero have some kind of yellow pages thing

Twitter is a shit company that can pull something trollish on all of y'all

At least trust mastodon or something else

I’m guesssing Twitter will just be the first implementation

Presumably they could use it for mast and nostr etc

Siren[m]: Anything that involved nostr protocol is more suitable

<᷾s> Wownero has a centralized login system (courtesy of the NSA)

* Anything that involves nostr protocol is more suitable as it's not tied to a homeserver

Based

Siren[m]: But these days as far as I know account migrations are possible on mastodon so if you suspect something shady you can just move out

<᷾s> Siren: matrix without homeserver wen

It's already here

👀

arewep2pyet.com

You can download the test build

It does work

It also works without internet

P2p? Not clicking that

Siren[m]: Over bluetooth or local net

Siren[m]: Um excuse me

You must pay the monthly fee

Bruh

<᷾s> That's just IRC though

DONT use p2p stuff at work

<᷾s> P2P IRC wen

If you run the p2p app your phone can also act as a relay

Wdym just IRC?

It's more than that bruh

<᷾s> Over LAN

> slaps fibreoptic network. You see these fibers aren’t feee

Siren[m]: If two people are far away the middle people will relay the messages

It uses BLE or LAN all E2E

the firewall now has a nice flashy warning about "gstatic.loli.net" thanks to me playing with nostr

Great matrix p2p demo

Used it in airplane

Wow

Also yeah matrix is more than a chat app

<᷾s> loli.net 💀

It's more like a protocol for secure communication, can do a lot more than just chat

<᷾s> Chinese people are weird

its apparently just an image hosting service

-.-

Siren[m]: Like what

<᷾s> Yeah but loli.net 💀

chesterfield[m]: thirdroom.io/

and bcs someone on nostr uploaded their image to that, thats what the firewall says

<᷾s> Couldn't have just left it at sm.ms 💀

Siren[m]: AR rooms over Matrix protocol

Demonstrated by the dev himself

I like where this is going and what they're all making

Siren[m]: >we dont have the decryption key yet. this might take a while

Is that Charles hoskinson

<᷾s> I can do AR rooms over IRC 😛

Don't remember

But it was a nice presentation

Lotsa hype :D

Probably not. There aren’t any mini donkeys on stage

Anyways Monero should get a stand

Advertise itself as "Free payment system"

Break the prejudices people even in the FOSS community have towards crypto

a lot of reasonable foss people accept monero as the only true crypto already

and then there is gnu taler which is retarded

monerobull[m]: Even though I asked GNU project and Matrix to accept Monero, they don't

I actually don't know any FOSS project or people who do that

Literally the only place I regularly spend XMR is 1984.is not even aware of many other places that accept XMR

FSF doesn't accept Monero but Bitcoin, I emailed twice to ask them to accept Monero and said I would donate monthly if they did

Stnby[m]: nja.la

anonaddy

Good but not enough

orangewebsite

monerobull[m]: Njalla is shitty

And sussy

i know

1984 is great though

Njalla I'd rather kms

went down yesterday once again kek

More people need to accept it

monerosupplies.com ;:))

monerobull[m]: Did they rage on their customers again?

Siren[m]: I'd appreciate if someone can also ask them

* I'd appreciate it if someone can also ask them

Siren[m]: Will do

Stnby[m]: Use the CONTACT form. Bitch your whole infra is down including the contact form.

Why though? How do you fuck up an LXC container and a static website?

i emailed some german "online privacy" group because they only accepted paypal, bank and bitcoin (btc only with the disclaimer of how terrible it is for the climate and to please donate with paypal if possible)

How did it go?

Climate thingy is bullshit

they said theyll look into it but havent done anything

Fucking swift and sepa waste a lot more

moneroresearch.info is still down (hosted by Njalla)

At least not the credit card. We all know how much resources those 69 floor bank offices use up

Siren[m]: Swift is the main platform for laundering money

More money is laundered there than any crypto

These banks need to house their workers in physical offices, their workers need to commute to work, have servers and infra. Operate in caveman ways.

They need to make plastic cards and paper cash from trees

It's all fucking bullshit

Rucknium[m]: gg

based swiss tor hoster

all the german ones only accept SEPA -.-

Why do you need Tor hosting?

Are you running a service or a node?

no these are the ones that host relays and exit nodes

Ah

calyx has every crypto under the sun lol

Probably binance addresses tbh

Nothing to be proud off

s/off/of/

that is the default for crypto donations lmao

What is more environmentally damaging? Python or Monero?

Python

Anyways what are your thoughts on OXEN? It's a Monero fork that supposedly has to do with Session and Lokinet.

whats its point

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

yeah

i dont like any cryptos that just exist to attach to something

"Session (a fully anonymous encrypted messaging service) and Lokinet (a cutting edge low-latency onion router) both utilise the Oxen Service Node network to safeguard user privacy and anonymity."

I'm not trying to promote it

Just thought you guys know it better

Probably

thorchain rune, neccessarry for the swaps to work, sure

I'm confused on how Monero is used here?

they took the node infra

i guess?

Or anything derived from it

monerobull[m]: Wdym?

Like how

like forked the node software so they wouldnt have to start from scratch? idk

Hmm

Well they could have taken Nostr and awarded their OPs with Monero or any crypto instead

OXEN seven seem fit for the things they're building

Weird

* OXEN doesn't even seem fit for the things they're building

Could be that Nostr didn't exist back then

lol

you need to stake 2.5k$ to run a node

people dont even run tor nodes which is free

im sure you wont have a network mostly consisting of well funded state actors with such a requirement 😂

monerobull[m]: That's utter bullshir

* That's utter bullshit

The moneroresearch.info VPS is functioning, but it rebooted during the Njalla downtime. Need to restart the...something

im glad monerosupplies has so far always restarted

that is so cringe

Why won't you host on 1984.is? No I haven't tried hosting there because it's expensive compared to what I can buy via credit card :(

Buy I buy and manage domain names through there and it looks quality

s/Buy/But/, s/I/we/

I host some things on 1984. At this point I am considering fully switching.

<Siren[m]> "OXEN seven seem fit for the..." <- Session messenger taught be they arent serious about privacy

i didnt want to make an account just to see the xmr prices

They did contribute to bp+ ccs iirc

do they only have 8 nodes live?

I heard in total they have about 1k

Which is low

but most of them are offline?

No clue

lol

Also connections are capped at 10 Mbps afaik

Slow

I read the Nym white paper (except for the economic incentive part). Their arguments seemed reasonable, but I'm not a network privacy expert by any means.

Nym is also trying to be a competitor to Tor and i2p

can we accept them as monerokon sponsor without feeling bad

* feeling bad / looking stupid

Who?

nym

Why reject them?

idk, just asking if the project is legit

we denied bitmain :P

Nym says "Mixnets provide better privacy than onion routing (seems to have academic research support for that idea). When people were setting up Tor, mixnets were not feasible given the internet infrastructure. Now they are. Nym is a mixnet with an incentive structure."

ive heard mixnets are really slow but they seem to really be better

crypt0_bear: knows more about that

Nym seems reasonable, but I have not tried to read specific criticisms. Seth had someone on his podcast talk about Nym.

how bout beldex

theyve donated to eth atomic swaps and do privacy apps too

A couple of researchers associated with Nym wrote a paper criticizing BTC Lightning and Dandelion++. I had a discussion with one of the researchers in #monero-research-lab:monero.social about a month ago.

I didn't think the criticism of D++ applied to a realistic implementation of it, e.g. in Monero.

They have a lot of venture capitalist investors: cointelegraph.com/news/nym-technolo…rnet-privacy-sending-token-price-up

"The Nym Innovation Fund investors include Andreessen Horowitz, Polychain, Greenfield One, Huobi Incubator, Tioga Capital, Eden Block, NGC Ventures, HashKey Capital, Figment, Fenbushi Capital, Tayssir Capital, KR1, Lemniscap, and new backers OKX Blockdream Ventures."

FYI

I don't totally buy the need for them to have a token. Tor and I2P have been doing fine for decades without one

Both Tor and I2P have been DDoS attacked recently.

tor has got tens of millions of dollars from the pentagon

so they don't need a 'token'

I guess the token is to have an incentive to provide service quality.

Token or staking?

MoneroResearch.info is back online thanks to plowsof

turning things off and on again ain't much, but it's honest work 🫡

Magicians never tell their secrets

Reality: plowsof is in the hospital after that ordeal

5 of our best guys are in the ICU after getting loveras proposal to show up on the funding required page

when slapping it goes wrong

when ai slaps back

monerod --add-exclusive-node supportxmr.com:18080 --log-level 2 , no smiley faces sir , initiate issue and pullrequest !

sech1:

monerobull: what happens when they try to get rid of it

I never knew it was that hard 😂

Don't worry we will put 4 more next to it later

Can we order 3x history 3x OG in the same box?

Sure, I'll dm you

I found this, decent read about robots & dystopia, 8 or 9 chapters marshallbrain.com/manna1