Do you live in Belgium or just visit? I want to move there but I don't speak French and I noticed it's a major issue lol

Lots of good tech jobs there.

Just visit

TheDisruptiveCol: And I agree

I like that there are jobs for FOSS too

In the NL speaking Dutch isn't really as much of a requirement because everyone speaks English but I noticed in Belgium and France you really need to speak French. You can get by as a tourist but you will find it difficult to live there

<TheDisruptiveCol> "Do we hand out gold stars for..." <- I think hes still banned in this group tho :(

Stnby[m]: Monero community groups shouldn't be jannied. That's all I'll say about that

You can't be pro privacy and pro economic freedom but anti freedom of speech is completely idiotic

eh it's not anti freedom of speech, it's moderation

Isn't that the same thing

no, you're free to go somewhere else for off-topic discussions or NSFW content that shouldn't be here

It's basically a single person in control of what can and cannot be said. That's literally centralised power structure

not really

you can get a person unbanned if you argue that it was unfair

usually it's quite hard to get banned from here too

By definition it is centralisation of lower.

but again it's not a homeserver wide ban

Power*

s/lower/power/

The main issue is when moderators force their own personal politics onto a space.

Especially in none political rooms

well that doesn't happen

That does not happen in here, no matter how much we disagree, I would be banned otherwise

I seen a Muslim guy get kicked from a Monero chat for refusing to use pronouns, which is his right it's actually haram for him to do so.

But there was no respect for his religion. Only the ideological position of the Jannie

TheDisruptiveCol: what makes you think it's haram to refer to someone as something?

TheDisruptiveCol: Sorry dude Idk how those work I was not taught about those in my English class

In my language everything, even objects have genders and all there exists is he/she :D

Siren[m]: Because it is haram. In Islamic culture it is.

* he/she :D (everyone else can go cry)

Allah won't send you to hell just because you said Vi/Vim

Stnby[m]: Well it is the same in the Islamic world.

Siren[m]: Habibi. I'm sorry but you're wrong lol

Also. Emac>Vim

yike

TheDisruptiveCol: just like C#>C, we are both right

Real Gs use nano. Lol

nano is impossible to use

very confusing

Skill issue

Just ed it

I honestly find myself using VSCode a lot, because my job makes us use it. It makes you a lazy Dev tho

TheDisruptiveCol: Real Gs use busybox vi

cockliuser[m]: Touche

But honestly true programmers use ACME

I write my code on an Amiga 1200

Like a chad

Reminds me of that time some stupid ass person set EDITOR=jed on the jumpbox at my workplace

just prinf >> file.

Each time you need to change a line start all over again printf > file.

just do sed -i

s/prinf/printf/

use regex

Too advanced

why sed if you have ed

Reminds me of PEBCAK errors

Problem exists between computer and chair.

PEBCAC even.

Sorry for my bad application support jokes

?.

PEBCAC, ID10T errors. Ways of calling the employees stupid without calling them stupid.

"sorry, it sounds like you have a PEBCAC error and it'll likely take most of the week to fix." Basically user error but user is too stupid to understand it's user error. You have to amuse yourself somehow

Has anyone here played with Haveno or Neroshop yet?

Neroshop is a P2P marketplace built on Monero. I'm yet to try it

I also found this on Twitter.  anonshop.app P2P Amazon shopping using Monero, interesting concept. 

neroshop have their own matrix channel btw if you're interested in following development #neroshop:matrix.org

<TheDisruptiveCol> "Neroshop is a P2P marketplace..." <- Is still WIP

Hello, getting used to matrix. A lot is going on…

feather wallet works on android devices btw baz , a mobile version of feather is technically here xd reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/10h6uxq/feather_wallet_on_android_device

Awesome, thanks mate

<Stnby[m]> "why sed if you have ed" <- Omg lmao

Morning dude

🫡🫡 im up, im up

<cockliuser[m]> "Is still WIP" <- Yeah, i'm in their room but i think its literally one guy doing the dev if i had better C skills i'd jump in.

My name is Ebubekir Siddik Ucar. I am from Ankara Mamak. I raped a 2-year-old little girl. I am from Turkey. I am not afraid of anyone. I am a pedophile. My mobile number is +90 533 458 10 73 . It's so nice to rape little girls. My mobile number is +90 533 458 10 73 . I am not afraid of anyone.

I wanted to reveal myself

ser this is a wendy's

that's like when people write things on a toilet cubicle wall, huh

Was that the ledger guy?

<TheDisruptiveCol> "Yeah, i'm in their room but i..." <- I mostly do work on the front-end/GUI. Still no P2P network yet :/

many thanks to woodser for keeping / updating monero-ecosystem libraries

+1 for woodser

<Cá Heo Mập Mạp> I come back to xmr due to btc recent issue.... omg, mempool is traffic jammed

we missed you, and you didnt respond to any of our calls, where have you been? we need time to forgive you. and yes the mempool is very jammed

<Cá Heo Mập Mạp> 😄

<Cá Heo Mập Mạp> bot?

Botnets?👀

nanopool hashrate going parabolic

Apparently all that hashrate comes from this account: xmr.nanopool.org/account/49ixgZU6ca…d6R7REaNFkbrebRruXQRP5sZHEjtRTKPyQC

let's see if someone notices it Monday

this account had a huge hashrate yesterday too

selsta: by someone, you mean the person managing the pool or a three letter agency?

the person that got hacked and is paying for the cloud provider

perhaps some HUGE datacenter was infected?

AWS?

1000 MH/s by a single miner is really a lot

The hash was on hashvault 2 days go

Off yesterday, back on today but moved to nanopool

very suspect

indeed monero.hashvault.pro/en/dashboard shows 1GH/s yesterday for 49ixgZU6cafjMkM6RjmR9UA3qhmRL5NrfQAyxR7BBcEjL2VQUSMbTs81scaTd6R7REaNFkbrebRruXQRP5sZHEjtRTKPyQC

Hello Guys what is the most profitable mining hardware for Monero?

any idea?

1 miner = biggest pool

Why can't people like that mine to p2pool 😭

can they? without having full node on each bot?

They can use aterx.com

If they want to use a centralized pool.

And yes, just xmrigproxy to p2pool instead

p2pool can handle all workers directly

without the proxy

unless they need a tls connection from workers to their node, then they need xmrig-proxy

in any case, with 1 GH/s they can straight-forward mine solo

doubt they know that, if they joined p2pool we would all praise them

I wouldnt.

Maybe if they didnt turn it on and off, but the cycles are bs

<BobbedBort> > indeed monero.hashvault.pro/en/dashboard shows 1GH/s yesterday for 49ixgZU6cafjMkM6RjmR9UA3qhmRL5NrfQAyxR7BBcEjL2VQUSMbTs81scaTd6R7REaNFkbrebRruXQRP5sZHEjtRTKPyQC

That is very disturbing, any idea what is going on?

Superminibg blocks, then leaving once difficulty adjusts upwards, coming back and doing it again once the difficulty returns to normal

the usual is going on

Yep

some big company's cloud account got hacked and they're draining thousands $ per minute

will be resolved when work week starts

I liked that nuber

That was like

If the hacked company was smart, they'd keep it on for themself

It takes 1000$ of cloud computing to mine 1$ of xmr

"Wait, they made how much in how short of time?!.. using hardware we already have??"

Or something like that

they started on friday

ofrnxmr[m]: Nonono

Someone is going to pay out the ass for their AWS bill

Only for the hacker to get like 2-5 xmr

monerobull[m]: If you pay for cloud services

it happened several times before, and it was always around 1 GH/s for a few days

Not if you own the servers

which is probably some cloud provider's capacity for a single client

<BobbedBort> > some big company's cloud account got hacked and they're draining thousands $ per minute

That makes a lot of sense. Any idea what company?

ofrnxmr[m]: Ok but that's what likely happened

Away account hacked, scale up to max, start mining all weekend till company notices

Yeah, but Amazon could be smart and start mining and accepting monero :)

<BobbedBort> If it has happened before, has there been any statements by the cloud company regarding it?

they prefer to stay quiet

they get paid in $$$ after all

and companies stay quiet out of embarassment probably

It's hilarious how inefficient this sort of hack is

it's super efficient

because it's not the hacker who pays $45k

For the hacker

^

this is like almost 30% of network from one cloud company if true, crazy

<BobbedBort> > It's hilarious how inefficient this sort of hack is

it is funny

From one small part of amazons infrastructure *

monerobull[m]: Agreed

Im waiting for the day its not a hack (ie, Amazon/some provider decides to use idle servers to mine directly)

I'm wondering if they would even be allowed to do that

They probably have really specific clauses in their power providers contracts

They can always claim they got hacked 😭

I bet there would be fbi investigations

NSA should mine xmr instead if trying to read my cat emails

I estimate all cloud datacenters to be able to pull 500 GH/s together

but they're usually busy doing other stuff, so it's not going to happen

what's average cpu hashrate ? like 5 KH/s ?

Like 2.5

" In 2020, the data center industry consumed around 196 to 400 terawatt-hours (TWh)"

this is 2200-4500 GH/s if all they do is mine XMR with 100 h/J efficiency

but in reality some of this is GPUs, some of this can only reach 50-70 h/J (old CPUs)

so 500 GH/s is more realistic for all datacenters in the world

I think my math shows a minimum of 12tw currently on xmr

I think lol

No.. definitely wrong

0.15

Hi guys! I looked for something written about this but I couldn't find anything, which I thought was strange because this seems like something a community that's passionate about privacy would care about (therefore maybe it's a controversial matter, if that's the case I don't mean to start drama), the question is why does this homeserver ask for an email address to sign up and what could be the reason for others like matrix.org

to do the same?

Spam

We have enough people who are willing to manually create 15/week accounts to spam from, no need to invite bots

15 accounts / week*

24/25 accounts / week

I've never coded a spam bot but is it that much harder to code it so that it creates and verifies a disposable email address?

it increases the barrier for spam

Yes

I mean, the whole process seems straightforward enough to me, I wouldn't have any issue making 15 accounts in an hour, don't know why just 15 in a week

You can also run your own homeserver, moneronode and everything else and have good oosec

If youre using monero.social servers, you must not care

Any homeserver can connect here

ofrnxmr[m]: that seems like a good enough answer to me

Siren: and Stnby: I believe use their own homeserver(s)

ofrnxmr[m]: yes, of course, this is not a critique against monero or matrix.org or any other server that asks for email, I'm just curious what the reasoning was, because not asking for details like email or phone is a selling point for matrix (a lot of people promote it with that) so it's something people care about, it seems to me

Spam mitigation on matrix is hard

ofrnxmr[m]: not care about what? wdym

Not care about proper opsec

oh..

well, I've seem if you delete the email from account setting you can't use it anymore for password recovery, whether that deletes it from wherever acc data is stored though... I don't know

You can delete you email after registration, but we've also been thinking about more anon methods of proving youre a human and nit malicious

But right now, we rely on human interaction for every bad account or message

it's good to hear that :) (and I didn't know you were involved with the team behind this homsever or matrix)

Im not involved with the team that hosts the homeserver, but I am a part of the community just like the rest of us

And monero isnt Bitcoin. We make necessary changes

I see now, now I'm curious, what ideas has been floating around in regards to this?

Birth certificates

hahah

catpchas?

Mailed, with a return address and tracking

no, really, why not captchas?

Because people make 24/25 accounts per week because they need to know the answer sir

:s

Starts with looking into actual solutions to spam via matrix tools

Failing that, I think a refundable deposit during registration could work

Ie, if you show up and start spamming, you just made a donation to ofrnxmr's defence fund

If you dont, you get you money back in x amount of weeks.

This couLD obviously be attacked vt making the accounts weeks in advance. .. which is something I can see happening

>$45,000 AWS Crypto-Mining Hack Generates $800 of Monero

meaning, the actual value of the trash service that amazon-NSA provides is $800 at best, not $45k

<ofrnxmr[m]> "Siren: and Stnby: I believe use..." <- Yeah, everyone else's homeserver sucks

We don't allow registrations but happily create an account for internet friendz