Hi everyone! I just posted an update on Molly CCS. In the post I discuss the progress of the project and introduce the new Monero SDK for Android we're building. I explain why it's necessary, the issues with wallet2, and the features it provides. Lastly, I ask for additional funding from the community to help us continue with the development

the joys of working with wallet2.cpp

Praise Allah

why not building top on XMPP/Jabber

or matrix

thank you for the detailed/honest report valldrac (link to the wallet sdk being discussed github.com/mollyim/monero-wallet-sdk )

Mmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Next progress report 2years with new funding

People on the Signal forum are already against Mobilecoin and most people already know about XMR. It doesn't make sense to me. IMO this won't worth.

Building what on matrix?

DanIsnotthemanBr: Monero payments.

Meta data issue

why would i use moneropayments in matrix

Signal its only initial registered number

Valldrac can explain better

today has been content heavy, and its a long update, but highlights the benefits of this wallet sdk

<plowsof11> "why would i use moneropayments..." <- same reason as on molly.im or signal. Personally I wouldn't.

<DanIsnotthemanBr> "Meta data issue" <- Like what?

more running monero payments on matrix?

s/more/for/

👀 I think I typed that while I was asleep

ban

Today moner.ooo is one year old. 🎂

<ceruleous> Do I need to resync my entire wallets block height I intend to switch remote node provider (my VPS died)

<ceruleous> Do I need to resync my wallet's entire block height I intend to switch remote node provider (my VPS died)

no

Like a week old ♥️ dont need to repost everywhere

If I wanted to create a project related to XMR or that would use XMR, is there any help I can get ?

is there a group of community members that have been helping build around XMR ?

orion_midast[m]: this very channel, and other monero related channels contain sufficient technical people that are more than willing to help and answer specific questions

dsc_: thats dope, thanks a lot. Will definitely ask some questions.

Seths a btc dev leave him alone ;)

<icarolongo[m]> "sethforprivacy.com/posts..." <- I hope it's satiric article otherwise I wouldn't be surprised if this article is paid.

his first paragraph say it all, he was initially in crypto not for the tech but for the money.

BTC pumped in last 3 months and he got a job in BTC so he is back in BTC (follow the money mode)

<Bon 💗> Seth for real a btc dev

I initially came here (crypto) for the NGU

Thats a meaningless metric. Just says our personal entries to monero started with bitcoin

I came here for the tech, initially btc but xmr have better tech.

make money with that shit too but for me the tech is > important

Bitcoin tech has been dead forever

Monero unknown.

Everything else a scam.

What tech?

bitcoin got killed by blockstream

tech stopped to improve

Right. So what tech are you coming for? If you dont know anything about crypto except for "bitcoin NGU"

And after coming, you learn that there is in fact, viable projects

The article Ishtar satire. Is a response to monero community fud about him being a sell out

> <@ofrnxmr:monero.social> Monero unknown.... (full message at <libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/do…2d56c600054bdd61729b2dc8fd9073cb99f>)

Isnt* satire

In 2018 bitcoin was NGU

In 2008 it was cypherpunk

BitMonero was created in 2014 because bitcoin wasnt sufficient.

Bitcoiners who were still around in 2018 didnt care about the tech and still dont

I consider everything nor monero a scam too actually

especially these smart scam chains like ETH (I call them scam facilitators because it's there main purpose)

s/nor/not/

ETH is a joke.

Its literally gas. Why it has value is beyond me

most people in that toxic space are there for the money, nothing more

(Of course it has value because you need to pay the people who stake it)

> Most people will enter cryptocurrency through Bitcoin

If Bitcoin is more popular than Monero then I should be focus on Bitcoin.

> Monero’s community has remained laser-focused on building out digital cash without sacrificing decentralization or trustlessness...

speechless

* > Most people will enter cryptocurrency through Bitcoin

If Bitcoin is more popular than Monero then I should be focus on Bitcoin.

> Monero’s community has remained laser-focused on building out digital cash without sacrificing decentralization or trustlessness...

speechless

hardenedsteel: if youre a maxi, you do maxi things. Otherwise, you do whats best for the greater good aka get the fuck out of your backyard and do some mainstream work

Preaching to the choir doesnt help monero at all

Shilling monero to maxis is suicide missionb

Cmon people. Maybe psychology isnt a strongpoint in dev communities

If you understand human nature, youd understand what Seth is ultimately doing

He cant speak his true endgame goals, because fudders will fud

hardenedsteel: arent you the one that posted the link to the website for chsinanalysis that thanked you?

ofrnxmr[m]: Just disappointed from Seth that's all. It felt like he suddenly changed.

He didnt change

Anybody who does more then speculate knows that

ofrnxmr[m]: yes but that's irrelevant with monero.

Ie, talks to him

hardenedsteel[m]: Can you share again

Lol

ofrnxmr[m]: share what?

The link

Ty

i don't see seth on the credit slist

Only in golden globe movie

Hardensteel is credited though 🙃

icarolongo: paste the link in multiple rooms

They didnt help though™ and dont know why they are credited™

plowsof11: He did

i mean the antinalysis one xD

Ah

:\

anyway the point is, if we want to go conspiracy theory, don't throw stones in glass houses,, it achieves nothing

Except for people seeing into your glass house

Throwing stone on glass houses, sound fun actually

Must be hot in a glass house

Sun and everything

if seth is giving bad advice to people, call him out on it, it should not bother you how he puts food on his plate

Too much mess

ofrnxmr[m]: It doesn't have relationship with this topic or Monero.

™

how so?

Talk to seth direct if you have an issue. I doubt he would be like craig wright and block

Ddos spam fud will get blocked

Cultists can be pretty insane.

Hence why he wrote a post instead of talking to a bunch of nutters directly

My words, not his

Excuse me

Tinfolier

* Tinfoiler

DanIsnotthemanBr: No, I personally don't have a problem with him.

An unpaid contributor gets a job

Cancel him

Guys a pos who has only ever been here for the money

Ive known it all along

Show me the money💰

Ive been waiting for the day to open my fat mouth to tear down good people behind their backs

I know their personal contact info, but fuck that. I dont talk to traitors

™

He does have every single IM so you can talk to seth

Easier to let my imagination run wild with accusations about intent, when im clearly as good as being Seth as Seth is

You see my 20k+followers? You see how much everybody respects me?

Oh wait. Im just jealous

DanIsnotthemanBr: Even his signal phone number

But no. He spends 4 years with us, doing a lot of mainstream legwork.. and the moment he decided to take a break, we need to destroy the image he built

If monero people has morals, they'd leave the guy tf alone. If he is spreading bad info, they'd contact him to help him correct it

I am just glad that now I have cover for working on BCH too. (This is a joke.)

im going to boycott his monerod systemd guide, whose with me

its the sudden perceived 180° that was weird

It wasnt sudden

we're not using his simple monerod docker anymore - anyone found using it will be ousted as a traitor

He's ALWAYS been a btc guy

He's NEVER been monero only

sudden perceived

Because of fud popping up^

or perceived sudden

ofrnxmr[m]: who says that?

He left community like 6 months aho

Seth who

But now people have an issue because hes still alive

Leeches

I was waiting for podcasts

exactly, last thing I heard about him was months ago, and my shitty memory said he was a 100% xmr guy

He owes me more of his attention

obviously wrong

Yeah, nah, hes always been pushing Monero and being angry about the state of bitcoin

Because if bitcoin did some of thIngs monero did, it would be good for monero

And Seth has converted many big maxis from btc onto to monero is also ok

BTC only*

When i was listening between seth and Italian dude forgot his name but says fluffypony funny . Seem like he was xmr

Giaccomo

?

Yeah

I set that up

Because Giacomo from btc hates monero maxis

Css proposal ?

Blocked everyone. But Giacomo is a good, smart guy

I wanted him to have a fair conversation with a non-Maxi

Yeah maxi vs maxi is stupid

And that was the result. They were able to talk on a level of understanding of both chains and their flaws

Just argument

Giacomo only came onto monerotalk for THREE DAMN HOURS

Because of seth

Yeah split episodes

Bitcoin maxis accepted this.

Giacomo is a maxi upon maxis

So you are doug!!!

Exposed

There isn't actually a large number of Monero people giving Seth a hard time, is there?

I'm sure there is some unpleasantness (this being the Internet and all), but I'd be surprised to find out that he's getting massive amounts of grief.

Yes there is, recently

A lot on twitter at least

Interweb have it works

s/have/how/

Should Seth step down from being a moderator of r/Monero?

YES 🔪

(Seriously: No)

And dev

Unless he wants to

monerobull @monerobull:matrix.org:

What about correcting the article with him?

Blood in, blood out

hardenedsteel[m]: Message him if you have a problem

I think he is already in this group.

If he doesnt know who you are, tell him.. youre a contributor etc want to rereview his lastest merge

No, he left this group

#optout-general:matrix.optoutpod.com is his channel

Last time i was there it was dead

He was replying to fud there recently

> The intent was that my *focus* has changed in where I dedicate my time, but not that my *recommendation* has changed today.

Isn't it a simple equation? (number of people whose behavior Seth can change to use X privacy tool) * (amount of increased privacy of X privacy tool)? Isn't that what he is saying?

Thats what I thought long before he said anything

seth hasnt done any mod-work in like 4 months

> <@spackle_xmr:matrix.org> There isn't actually a large number of Monero people giving Seth a hard time, is there?

> I'm sure there is some unpleasantness (this being the Internet and all), but I'd be surprised to find out that he's getting massive amounts of grief.

There's an annual rotating list of people who get conspiracies about them, one time it may be fp, another sgp, now it's seth apparently Relatively small amount of people promoting conspiracies, and almost never anyone who has contributed to code, finances, or workgroup discussion promoting such conspiracies

is this a cult? can we leave?

xmrscott @xmrscott:monero.social: id argue its not relatively small

There are over 1000 people on telegram who hate sgp

And its like.. a lost cause. No idea how they got so brainwashed, but they really seem to have a narrative set out

Monero orange pills, for example

I stand corrected, apparently some conspiracies don't die out for some people

sometimes it becomes history

Luckily people only seem to hate me in waves of twice a year or so now. Used to be more common, peak hate in 2020/2021

The general ethos, modus operandi of the community though remains the same? Want something changed? Make it happen yourself and/or with others, anyone can create a workgroup

s/?/./

See #monero-community-dev:monero.social for an example :)

And nobody works for monero

Except for the contributors. They are NOT allowed to leave. Ever. Even after they die they will be buried on the blockchain in tx_funeral

I work for monero :D

No other payment method accepted

and almost never anyone who has contributed to code, finances, or workgroup discussion promoting such conspiracies

<

I've seen such people vote on some important things too

Probably talking about the 16 alts that tried to vote in events

I couldnt imagine hes talking about me.

If hes referring to Txextra voting, no matter how you count the votes the result is a very similar ratio (only taking votes from contributors)

And as far as finances, lololoo. You cant buy your way into a seat at the table

I dont care if youre Elon, you dont get to exclude non contributors and then call yourself one when all you contribute is fiat

Monero doesnt have VC investors that are owed a seat at the board table.

The table is made up of those with the best interests and/or the highest technical knowledge on the subjects at hand

Not the fattest pockets

xmrscott: Yeah, I have seen some of that.

I have tried to enjoy the Monero project as a relaxed/fun environment, but that attitude is hard to match with financial and privacy issues in general.

> <@spackle_xmr:matrix.org> xmrscott: Yeah, I have seen some of that.

> I have tried to enjoy the Monero project as a relaxed/fun environment, but that attitude is hard to match with financial and privacy issues in general.

Yes it is more akin to panic coding, on any type of project within this category

<ofrnxmr[m]> "I dont care if youre Elon, you..." <- Providing stuff for Monero can be count as contribute and MajesticBank is sponsor of The Monero Project.

So is fork networking

They also contribute 750+ Sybil nodes

Type financial partners

Type*

-_- autocorrect... ty***

i contribute by making sure my laptops remains somewhat charged

ofrnxmr[m]: how?

sometimes i have to bed to grab the charging cable

s/bed/bend

Why, so you can go be credited again 😆

risking repetitive strain injury for this project

ofrnxmr[m]: for what?

ofrnxmr[m]: to be fair i'm not sure if they are aware of it, they are a normal hosting provider

Revuo Monero Issue 163: March 11 - 16, 2023. revuo-xmr.com/issue-163.html

selsta: yup. Should have made that clear. Fork is not RUNNING the nodes, just that the nodes were sourced there

I’m late for Mordinals ? Have you already discussed it? 😅

monerobull @monerobull:matrix.org: is the morbs workgroup leader

Coordinator*

we are holding a morbinals competition , the winner will be announced at the next meeting monero-project/meta #810

What’s the competition for ?

Hopefully how to remove them from the chain lol the most efficiently

XMRPriest[m]: 😅😅

XMRPriest[m]: who can actually get the morb wallet to run

😬😬✌️

XMRPriest[m]: 150 wownero