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<ishikawa:tchncs.de> Right? lol
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<ishikawa:tchncs.de> I knew Australia was going to get to this point eventually, sad to see.
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<voxgag1:matrix.org> It's for environmental reasons. Less paper money = saving the environment. /s
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<ishikawa:tchncs.de> I'm sure they could spin that and someone would believe it
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<plazma_69> everything need to be written in rust
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<plazma_69> and their should be many forks
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<plazma_69> of multiple software and implementation
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<voxgag1:matrix.org> how do you buy things with monero?
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<voxgag1:matrix.org> things like groceries and fast food?
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<edge7:matrix.org> {
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<edge7:matrix.org> "question": "Where can I find merchants accepting Monero?",
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<edge7:matrix.org> "answer": "You can find merchants who accept Monero as payment on platforms like Cryptwerk (
cryptwerk.com/pay-with/xmr) and Monerica (
monerica.com). These websites provide lists of businesses, both online and physical, that accept Monero."
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<edge7:matrix.org> }
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<voxgag1:matrix.org> thanks and wasnt there a bunch of sites that let you turn monero into gift cards?
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<edge7:matrix.org> in monerica there is a section for it search for: Giftcards
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is monerica.com owned by cakewallet ?
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because I only see this kind of shady things by cakewallet people
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MajesticBank
7 days ago my site was listed on
monerica.com/#exchanges
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maybe I got this wrong, but their site is open-source but index.html file isn't
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but from this pull 3 days ago
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you can see content of index.html
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where you can see I am listed between kwenta.eth.limo and www.morphtoken.com
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<edge7:matrix.org> Don't know if there is cake wallet behind. Are you saying your website has been added? Are you not happy?
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but not on the live site
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<edge7:matrix.org> You can request again here I guess
monerica.com/submit
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<edge7:matrix.org> But if that's been merged will be live sooner or later I don't know their Ci cd process
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wouldn't be a thing
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if shadow removall
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their pr merged on getmonerosite, so we got merged, fuck mb
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this is not a community project, but a corporate with their own agenda
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<edge7:matrix.org> Is this your website
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<edge7:matrix.org>
monerodice.pro
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<edge7:matrix.org> I see it in the live website
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MajesticBank in the index.html @
github.com/monerodice/monerica/blob…47b4eb63e14eac/src/index.html#L2180 (but not on the live site) - monerodice was added to index (after mb) and can be seen on the live site
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Is it a rendering error? lol
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there must be good explanation tho, no way they would just shadow remove someone after being listed
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I have created an issue to ask for the whereabouts of the "real" index.html
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<edge7:matrix.org> I see it in the live website.
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<edge7:matrix.org> Edit: obviously it's not that one. 😵💫
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Community meeting today 4-hrs35mins
monero-project/meta #893
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FCMP retroactive -;10 updoot += jtgrassie,ofrnxmr (+berman but it will pay his wages so coi there) vs 0 downdoot += 6 in comments who are against/abstain/not 100% for other reasons. Now then, its a no brainer to merge it?
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<edge7:matrix.org> By the way I see majestic bank here:
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<edge7:matrix.org> In the main branch
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<edge7:matrix.org> There must be some sync issues. I think they have been making changes lately
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<edge7:matrix.org> I don't see the point to start saying 'corporate and agenda' as soon as there is a small issue.
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Better metrics than the oscar
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> 🔥😆
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> if were excluding COI, how tf did i get banned by vp of geonics doublr vote
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> who's __ck do i have to massage to get kayas ccs merged on a random tuesday? luigi1111:
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> In all seriousness, i was banned for asking about a bs coi movie scam that is about to claim the second half of the scam money
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> banned by vp of vc backer lol
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all days of the week are random as the week only exists in the mind of humans
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> The weak exist in the physical though :D, nioc
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Geonics vote against kaya is cucked too
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> The sob (geonic) got a milestone 0 (12k or so) for a movie _not_ featuring monero that _will not_ win an oscar
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> But says kaya ccs should be killed due to retroactive?
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Majestic votes "ill kick his head in"
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> so we respect double voters and malicious __ck massagers
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I bet that ofrn doesn't live with a cat
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> There are valid no votes, like koe, but ive spoken to koe and i highly doubt his no is meant to block the ccs
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Geonic's no id just a pathetic drunk hippo wuth sore knees/jaw being a hippo
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> I recall that hippo saying plowsof should cuz rates in half
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> I recall that hippo saying diego made too much (7k)
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> But the hippo wants 25k with 0 deliverables? Damn hippos
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> I recall that hippo saying plowsof should cut his rates in half
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Many absolutely terrible ccs get merged. This is contentious, and perhaps is presented in a less than ideal fashion.
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Pay the man or cry about it later
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Its not like we have 3 kayas available, or sarang, or koe
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Koe = haitus
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> kaya = volunteer
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> sarang = i need to eat, so.. im where they feed me
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Lets push kaya out, and keep geonic and solopt 😭😭😝😁
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> I do tho
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> I think
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> If were worried about setting precedent, we should cancel geonics ccs
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> But were not. Kaya will be merged behind our backs if the right person(s) say so. Votes dont matter
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> If votes matter, kill geodude ccs OR exclude geodude votes cuz he has a COI
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Cant both pay a scammer, and have that scammer fud everyone who isnt a scammer
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> If my friend tried to block kaya ccs, id kick him in the head with the keyboard
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Ban ofrn, count bribejestic's votes 🙈
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Mr altspamjestic votes
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Oh damn.. im early. Meeting soon?
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> I wonder why ppl said my name so much, but have been mia since i came bk. Weirdos
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Kick kaya in the face, lol? Lol, theb bribejestic gets a private warning
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Know how mny warnings i got before i was banned? None. Cuck bitch threatened my after the fact
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Ne*
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Me*
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Idk bout some of thus bs
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Cowards get pushed around by scammers
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> But think their lil acorns are big enough to deal with me. Go practice using your tough guy skills against the scanmers and charlatans
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Damn pathetic getting dogwalked by a drunk geodude, bribejestic, mj-litigation, msvb etc etc.
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> i respect ruck and koe votes. Geodude and scamjestic votes are malicious
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<123bob123:matrix.org> Tldr?
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> merge kaya fcmp retroactive ccs
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> And stop respecting votes of scammers and vp of coi
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Actually, i see 0 downvotes. Sone negative feedback, but no downvotes.
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<123bob123:matrix.org> Didnt someone say not to use the up/down as a form of for and against? Just put comments :/
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Idk, wasnt here
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> i see
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> - plowsof pkaying it safe
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> - raver being a hater as usual, yet voting to merge never ending bs like the sdk and molly "not" featuring monero
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> - Rucknium for securit proofs
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> - geonic being worthless again
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> - bribejestic
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> I think kaya ccs is obviously "merge last tuesday" considering seraphis is basically retroactive as well
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> It has no proofs, code isnt reviewed
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Geonics ccs doesnt feature monero and is half the cost of kayas.
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Sdk bs is as much as this
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> And this is _acual code_.. not haveno or sdk vaporware
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> And bermans vote counts, if all of geonics COI votes counted, riiight?
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> if i was involved in this ccs, and didnt get merged, id just raise my rates significantly to repay the disrespect
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<sunchakr:monero.social> We’re going live in an hour!
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<sunchakr:monero.social> 🎙➡️
streamyard.com/epz8q6dymd
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<sunchakr:monero.social> 🐦➡️
x.com/i/spaces/1LyxBnMeQWWxN
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luigi1111w
are we yelling again
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I think I'll merge it if there's an expiration for funds gathering and plan for underfunding
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any opinions
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Im ok with that. What were you thinking for an expiration?
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> kayabanerve:
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MajesticBank
meeting in 15 minutes
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<gorillaquest:matrix.org> 🦍
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inge
Do we know if we could qualify to get the monerod ports into the well-known portlist?
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hi
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plowsof
greetings! hello
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msvb-lab
Hello.
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<sneedlewoods_xmr:matrix.org> hey there
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nioc
Cat is here
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Hello
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plowsof
lets discuss some highlights while we wait for people to roll in
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selsta has been putting the next release together (18.3) - currently undergoing some testing - so if you want to compile the release v18 branch and put up a node, please do!
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moneros next hardfork will more than likely be to implement tevadors PoW verification changes (to mitigate denial of service attacks against nodes) more info here:
monero-project/monero #8827
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Nice 🚀
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<plowsof:matrix.org> this hardfork gives an opportunity for some RandomX changes:
tevador/RandomX #274 that will give "free" hashes to some AMD cpus (around >+8% in testing) (best palce to ask about this is in #monero-pow)
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nodes anti-ddos is important, great work
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<plowsof:matrix.org> Monero celebrates its 80 millionth output (via p2pool observer, the only explorer with a tor link? thanks to sech1 outputs
p2pool.io/explorer/tx/5dbd3a47b1174…5704b2b905e35a2e4e288649b422c1aea8b
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<plowsof:matrix.org> s/observer/explorer
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Both work :P p2pool.observer
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<plowsof:matrix.org> in #monero-community-dev spackle_xmr shared a churning script (working off of Monerujos pocketchange methods) "I've put up 3 python scripts for wallet management via RPC: Fracture, Consolidate, and Churn. See here:
github.com/spackle-xmr/MoneroTools"
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> whoever is doing the churning research should look at spackles work as well
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bitcart.ai (a full featured crypto payment processor) being used in the wild @ monerosupplies.com (payment in XMR/BTC/LTC/BCH)
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monerobull had issues with the monero wordpress / monero-php being blocked by a new host or something, and now has bitcart as an alternative
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MrNaif is the developer ... hopefully they gain support for helping Monerokon somewhere
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any other community highlights people want to talk about? [Revuo Monero](
revuo-xmr.com) - [The Monero Standard](
localmonero.co/the-monero-standard)
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I would like to mention that monerica.com shadow removed me from their website
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<plowsof:matrix.org> 2 CCS projects shared updates also: [Monero Garden](
twitter.com/anhdres/status/17023039…36206?t=eWOsKH_nwVqAGieL4Ziluw&s=19) / [Haveno](
github.com/haveno-dex/haveno/releases) (testers for haveno welcome) #haveno:haveno.network
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on similar date as they listing on getmonero site is approved
monero-project/monero-site #2117
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<plowsof:matrix.org> i made an issue about this, and it was closed today with a comment
monerica-project/monerica #129
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<anhdres:matrix.org> Yeah now I'm really close to have the text ready. I have to learn the whole GitHub publishing thing
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in the index.html @
github.com/monerodice/monerica/blob…47b4eb63e14eac/src/index.html#L2180 (but not on the live site) - monerodice was added to index (after mb) and can be seen on the live site
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oh so site is offline, makes sense
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<plowsof:matrix.org> sorry anhdres, i meant to tag you !
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<anhdres:matrix.org> And right after will start working on the images
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<plowsof:matrix.org> thank you for the update ⚽️🦶
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Technically haveno isnt a ccs oroject
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> The frontend is, and the frontend has no updates
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<plowsof:matrix.org> (we have to keep saying it is so we get our 0.0001% returns)
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<monerobull:matrix.org> Hello
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<plowsof:matrix.org> Lovera and 4rkal posted some new ccs proposals since the last meeting, seems like anough people are here to jump into the merge list
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<plowsof:matrix.org> right, again, recanmanns:
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<plowsof:matrix.org> a. [recanman to take over Monero integrations pt. 3](
repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/402)
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<monerobull:matrix.org> Hehe
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<plowsof:matrix.org> another dev appears to have re-written their own fork of the monero-php library which may have solved the issues from milestone 1 in the "Monero integrations" proposal
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<monerobull:matrix.org> Is anyone actually using that plugin 🤔 /s
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<plowsof:matrix.org> however, that work has to be 'made sense of' / adapted / and worked into the official monero-php library - all this, for 4 xmr
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<plowsof:matrix.org> and milestone 2 , Monero Woocommerce payment gateway maintenance, is uneffected, with 7 xmr in funds. i feel the proposal is unaffected and support recanmann to take it over (basically give serhack a helping hand, who is busy)
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> I +1 what plowsof said
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<plowsof:matrix.org> thanks for the feedback, we can move on if nobody has a comment
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<plowsof:matrix.org> @nobody
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> @nobody
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Lmao
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Jinx
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<plowsof:matrix.org> lol
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next
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<plowsof:matrix.org> ok moving on
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<plowsof:matrix.org> b. [Add retroactive funding proposal for FCMPs](
repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/403)
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nioc
is this like that Tesla proposal?
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close it already
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Merge with expiry
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<plowsof:matrix.org> luigi "I think I'll merge it if there's an expiration for funds gathering and plan for underfunding"
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<plowsof:matrix.org> so it will be merged
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<monerobull:matrix.org> Merge
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<monerobull:matrix.org> Movie ccs was retroactive
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> ```
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> <luigi1111w> I think I'll merge it if there's an expiration for funds gathering and plan for underfunding
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> ```
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Movie ccs has 0 potential roi
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<monerobull:matrix.org> For all intents and purposes. We have precedence
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Frontend ccs is vaporware
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Kayas ccs is actual code
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Solopt is "optional milestones w*th full pay"
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> While it shoyldnt set precedent, i believe kaya's attempt to get started before putting up the ccs was in good faith
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this merge will bring more good then bad, but I guess we can give him 1 month period to get funded
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> He coukd be like molly and just never deliver, right lol
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otherwise put funds back to general fund
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> 3 months
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nioc
3 months better than 1
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> jet fund*
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<plowsof:matrix.org> iirc kayaba intends on putting up another ccs for further work (but isnt promising anything)
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Aka, go towards other dev proposals
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> yes. Fcmp, this is just part 1. Still need a lot of work to actually implement (proofs, audits, yadayada)
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<plowsof:matrix.org> hopefully he didnt overwork himself and needs a hiatus
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Kaya didn't accept any recommendation from the community, not even one
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it's a disgrace
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nioc
I don't think that people will be motivated to donate if it misses the goal and the funds go to the GF
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Majestic doesnt have ears or eyes
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Bribejestic shh
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I want devs to be funded
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Go kick a keyboard
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<monerobull:matrix.org> There has been less activity on serai GitHub this week 😬
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Me too nioc: and not shit copy pasta elitewallet devs
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<monerobull:matrix.org> Maybe a milestone in fundraising
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<monerobull:matrix.org> Just so he can pay the people he already hired for the work
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<plowsof:matrix.org> thats usually why workers are forbidden to work so many hours a week
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> I thought it was so i had to take 2 jobs and not get overtime?
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This is putting salt in mouth of other people around monero, just saying, how you can do something on your own and ask payment whichever you want later
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Ask geonic
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Maybe he can tell you
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<monerobull:matrix.org> Majestic, FCMP is arguably wanted by everyone
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nioc
^^^^^^^^^^
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You missed the comments on then ccs I guess then
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Its research funding as far as im concerned.
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Whether we implement or not, i support the initiative.. especially considering its not vaporware like a lot of these other ccs
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<monerobull:matrix.org> It's not like he is asking money for an unrelated pet project
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<plowsof:matrix.org> we don't have to argue about it anymore, it will be merged pending expiry dates / underfunding plans
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nioc
the CCS, formally known as the FFS, was created to fund devs and research
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<plowsof:matrix.org> our suffering is relinquished
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nioc
not marketing
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Ty
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<plowsof:matrix.org> lets move on , pending kayabas input
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<monerobull:matrix.org> Didn't we vote merge on this last time already
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Lovera did well by us the last time
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<monerobull:matrix.org> I remember because I was watching the final showdown of John whick 4 at that time
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<plowsof:matrix.org> will luigi let the ccs fund someone 3 usd/hour is the question
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they should lower their price
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I don't mind the merge but checked his youtube the views are like 200 views per month
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could be a better
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<monerobull:matrix.org> We should fund this guy
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<sneedlewoods_xmr:matrix.org> but if we will not merge and Lovera still does the work, that's 0 $/h
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> same price as last time
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<monerobull:matrix.org> But he already does it for FREE
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Hes got moolah
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> with lovera, i expressed many concerns with the first ccs
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<plowsof:matrix.org> he would destory his channel if he was forced to make content for us every week probably?
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Regarding which channek things would be posted, the focus, etc
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Other sponsorships they have, their current revenue etc
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<plowsof:matrix.org> or Monero content from his wouldnt be out of the norm, anyway, we are discussing Lovera
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monerbull I believe it was not merged because it had just been opened
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<plowsof:matrix.org> its the same terms as was accepted the first time, his subscribers have increased, i did not look at any other stats, the view count was not jaw dropping. however, the informative videos are up there for eternity* for spanish speakers
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> I'm voting merge. Im ok with the cost
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<monerobull:matrix.org> They are on odyssey too right
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Lovera:
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<plowsof:matrix.org> no laser eyes ??
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I think more people are forced to watch ofcxmr psychiatric episodes
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but it's small amount so merge ?
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> small and he has an actual following
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<monerobull:matrix.org> No open mouth is good, Mr beast recently said if you have your teeth not closed the video performs wirse
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<monerobull:matrix.org> No open mouth is good, Mr beast recently said if you have your teeth not closed the video performs worse
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<plowsof:matrix.org> i think a 'how did the 1st ccs go' round up of videos produced / titles would be helpful?
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Monerotopia tiktok twitter as well
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<plowsof:matrix.org> its just the absurdly low hourly rate
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> He shoukd raise it to 100xmr
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can we hop to the next ?
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Well with lovera, i say merge
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Cost more man hrs to debate it
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> But i also agree with plowsof about looking into interaction stats of most popular videos or tiktoks of that time
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<plowsof:matrix.org> the first ccs we got some stats from lovera, they would be nice to see this time round again, i will leave it at that
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Yea, a comparison chsrt would be great
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<plowsof:matrix.org> ok lets move on
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<plowsof:matrix.org> d. [Selfhosted tor gitea instance of monero source](
repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/408)
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> This is like moneroarchiver, but paid mth to mth?
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Instead of "run with the money after 2 weeks"
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<plowsof:matrix.org> i feel my comment on the other proposal applies to this one:
repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/c…als/-/merge_requests/361#note_19727
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<monerobull:matrix.org> Isn't git decentralized by nature and a self hosted version basically useless
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Were already mirrored on wownero's instance i think (?)
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<plowsof:matrix.org> for me this is a no. lets say monero is outlawed / deleted from github ... ok who do we get the source from, plowsofs gitea instance on tor? ok we download that, what do we do with it? ... probably ask other devs / core members who have local copies for hashes of commits?
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<plowsof:matrix.org> in that case we dont need step 1
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Yeah, i agree with plow. People can self host for free
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> I self host the blockchain for free..
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<monerobull:matrix.org> I trust core more than some random guy who wants to get paid for hosting a backup
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MajesticBank
skip for now
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Close
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<monerobull:matrix.org> I host bridgerton: for free
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<monerobull:matrix.org> And the chain
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<monerobull:matrix.org> At one point i even hosted Bitcoin but only to put monerochan ordinals on it
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MajesticBank
I almost forgot to mention we are adding p2p trade option to our existing swap service, it's in beta and expected to be live in week
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<plowsof:matrix.org> i spent 12 hours @ 45eur setting my laptop so i can work in the woods /s
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<monerobull:matrix.org> That sounds cool
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<plowsof:matrix.org> *consults the EmJay invoice*
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<plowsof:matrix.org> interesting majesticbank
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<monerobull:matrix.org> majetic do you take custody of the coins during the trade?
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<plowsof:matrix.org> is this done using localmoneros api? or your own service?
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it's fully in house solution
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there will be also on/off ramp options
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<plowsof:matrix.org> ok impressive, will keep an eye on that link, please keep us updated
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<plowsof:matrix.org> on the hour, AOB?
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<plowsof:matrix.org> i've been following rekt.news (CoinEX appeared there, who have xmr holdings, be careful out there)
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<monerobull:matrix.org> I just got around to watching this video which has been sitting in my playlist for months
youtube.com/watch?v=WP7v9HdUceY
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<plowsof:matrix.org> thanks !
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<monerobull:matrix.org> The part where they explain how monero works is pretty good if you cut before they talk about how it's used by criminals lmao
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what happened with farcaster team
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there was presentation on the monerokon with mainnet and silence after
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<plowsof:matrix.org> no activity from them for a while (did they approach the events team to hold a presentation somewhere recently?)
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farcaster released a WebUI for swaps during their last update, which worked (alot of tweaks/bugs to be fixed when i tired) after that, not much
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Basicswap had some updates too iirc
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<monerobull:matrix.org> Monero trades
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<monerobull:matrix.org> Both directions
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<monerobull:matrix.org> Still not viable since you need all the nodes
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<monerobull:matrix.org> But very cool
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nice, thanks for sharing
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i think we can leave it there, thank yo uall for attending and m-relay for your moderation via DataHoarder
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ty plowsoft
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thanks for moderation
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Good meeting everyone, dankon.
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Ty plowgpt
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<plowsof:matrix.org> events meeting in 53 minutes right? #monero-events:monero.social
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msvb-lab
Yes, in 50 minutes on the #monero-events channel.
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<sneedlewoods_xmr:matrix.org> is anything special planned for 10 year anniversary?
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nioc
curve trees :D
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<ajs_:matrix.org> monerokon meeting at 17:00 today:
monero-project/meta #896
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<ajs_:matrix.org> utc
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<ajs_:matrix.org> in #monero-events
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[meta] ajs-xmr opened issue #896: MoneroKon 2024 Planning Meeting: Saturday 16th September 2023 @ 17:00...
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<kayabanerve:matrix.org> luigi1111w: I'm fine with any expiration you want if its sane (at least two weeks). As for underfunding, I'd say it should still be passed through (no reason not to IMO), but I'm willing to say funded milestones get paid and partially funded milestones go to the general fund as traditional if that greases the wheels.
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<kayabanerve:matrix.org> :D
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2 weeks would be a short time for a proposal of this size
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expiration is like 1mo+. I don't think partially funded should go to gen fund, I'd just like a plan for what happens if there is underfunding (preference or pro rata or something else)
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<kayabanerve:matrix.org> monerobull @monerobull:matrix.org: I only hired jberman and accepted the risk I'd go out of pocket on it. I want to be clear on the limited scope there given prior comments.
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<kayabanerve:matrix.org> nioc: Agreed. Hence so long as it's at least :p I was going to suggest 1m.
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<kayabanerve:matrix.org> Though I also heard 3m mentioned.
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<kayabanerve:matrix.org> Sorry for missing the meeting. Time zones are off for me ://
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<monerobull:matrix.org> look at monero. researchers paying out of their own pocket and meanwhile unnecessary stuff gets funding
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nioc
3 months is a long time and 1 month is minimum but luigi already knows this :)
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without milestones it would be difficult to make a partial payment if it come to that
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<monerobull:matrix.org> i previously stated im gone if we cant fund core research / development since it means the project has failed
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nioc
*payments
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Monerbull, its being merged, opinions on 'what to do if underfunded' - 'how long for it to expire' pls, no need to reiterate threats!!
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Monerobull
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<monerobull:matrix.org> ok
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<monerobull:matrix.org> id suggest first funding milestone somewhere around what kayaba paid to others
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<kayabanerve:matrix.org> nioc: There are milestones, just in the metadata which isn't in the desc. Solely the patch
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<kayabanerve:matrix.org> I meant to move those into the desc...
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> 3 months broski
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<kayabanerve:matrix.org> I don't have exp here and am fine deferring to luigi
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Luigi os fine deferring to you
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> ^
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1 month - 1.5 - 2 - 2.5 - 3
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<kayabanerve:matrix.org> plowsof: I'm fine deferring to you
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<kayabanerve:matrix.org> :p
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If underfunded after x months - i accept the rediction in wages , thanks all for donating
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<kayabanerve:matrix.org> 1, or if that seems short to people with exp, 2 months would be more than fine by me.
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Add those 2 things, thanks
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Tyvm. Can reduce my wages too
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<kayabanerve:matrix.org> K. Will try to do tonight :)
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> The issue is: if general fund doesnt fund it, donations take time
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> BUT i think funding will be easy
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Under 2 weeks imo. But id give 2 months to be safe (time for exposure etc)
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<monerobull:matrix.org> yeah what do we pay you for /s
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Bp++ was quickly funded WITHIUR general fund
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Because outsiders know wassup
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Should just defer to ofrnxmr @kaya
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> 2 months or 8 meetings
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> 2 months or 4 meetings*
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> If underfunded by 3rd meeting... decide how much by and vote to fund with jet fund
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<rucknium:monero.social> kayabanerve: For future proposals on FCMP, are you going to seek and consider feedback from others or is it going to be "take it or leave it"?
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> (not to speak for kaya, but i believe future ones will be in real time)
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<rucknium:monero.social> I don't like the lack of technical review nor not seeking to build consensus on critical questions.
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<rucknium:monero.social> "Take it or leave it" gives you too much power over the protocol.
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<rucknium:monero.social> There has been almost no discussion of Curve Trees in #MRL. No one in the Monero researcher/developer community who can technically review any part of it has commented on it AFAIK.
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<rucknium:monero.social> Part of that is because the set of people who are "in Monero researcher/developer community who can technically review any part of it" is tiny and getting smaller, so it's not your fault exactly.
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<btclovera:matrix.org> Guys, I’m sorry I couldn’t attend the meeting, I had a bit of a complicated day.
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<btclovera:matrix.org> 1) Retroactive, I think we have reached the consensus to merge. As they have said, it will bring good things. The code in Monero is good.
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<btclovera:matrix.org> 2) Majestik, there are two channels, LoveraTV and LoveraXMR. The latter has grown since the last CCS, look for Monero in Spanish on YouTube and you will see that there is little quality content.
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<btclovera:matrix.org> 3) selfhosted proposal: there was a similar proposal and it was closed.
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Thanks for feedback lovera
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<btclovera:matrix.org> I will try to share some data since the last CCS
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<kayabanerve:matrix.org> Rucknium: Future proposals won't be retroactive. They'll undergo the full CCS process. I cannot comment on how much feedback is accepted.
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<kayabanerve:matrix.org> It's been discussed on a GH issue for a while, and I talked with jberman and sarang.
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<kayabanerve:matrix.org> While I agree I'm pushing it forward, I simply saw that as no one else pushing forward FCMPs, per your last point.
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<rucknium:monero.social> They didn't give us any public review. jberman cannot review a proposal he is a part of.
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<kayabanerve:matrix.org> There are discussions on if I'm single handedly controlling the exact details, such as regarding the integration of divisors. That was primarily due to the raw numerical performance and narodnik's contributions to discussion m
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<rucknium:monero.social> koe was sort of in a position to review it, but he's on hiatus, so it's understandable. AFAIK, this Rust code work was mostly about testing the ability to connect Curve Trees to Seraphis, so he would have been a good person of course.
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<kayabanerve:matrix.org> I'm perfectly fine wishing with you sarang had also commented and invited them several times.
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<kayabanerve:matrix.org> I also have private quotes I wish I was able to share...
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<rucknium:monero.social> Sarang is complicated for many reasons. He is mostly working for Firo, which is nominally a "competitor" to Monero. He also doesn't like to put himself in the middle of controversy. He likes to be able to say things with confidence and integrity instead of speculating. All things that make it hard to comment publicly on this.
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<kayabanerve:matrix.org> They're mostly working for Cypher Stack.
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<kayabanerve:matrix.org> Firo is a notable contractor of CS, which means sarang spends more time on Firo than Monero these days, AFAIK.
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<rucknium:monero.social> kayabanerve: I was wondering, what is the wallet scan performance of Curve Trees like compared to Current Seraphis proposal? I saw the tx size and tx verification numbers, but not wallet scanning.
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<kayabanerve:matrix.org> Scanning isn't affected at all
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<rucknium:monero.social> Nice.
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<btclovera:matrix.org> The stats during my last CCS were as follows: (pic) I have somewhat abandoned the LoveraTV channel as I am focusing on LoveraXMR. Getting an audience for Monero in languages other than English is a bit tricky (see the Russian Monero channel), however with CCS I plan to pick it up again.
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<btclovera:matrix.org> In LoveraXMR we have reached about 500 subscribers and the truth is that there is quite a lot of interaction especially in the Spanish Telegram group of Monero.
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<btclovera:matrix.org> Also on Twitter we are starting to see more interest in Monero in Spanish.
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<btclovera:matrix.org> TikTok has also grown slightly, but it is also true that I don't dedicate as much time as possible to it.
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<btclovera:matrix.org> With the help of CCS I would dedicate much more time to reach more people.
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<recanman:agoradesk.com> There is still quite some stuff to do. I don't see any approvals or disapprovals?
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<plowsof:matrix.org> if luigi could just merge it that would be great
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Merge:
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Kaya 8 weeks or die (reevaluate at meeting b4 deadline)
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> recann
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> right?
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> (Or + lovera?)
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geonic
is there any moderation in this channel or is verbal diarrhea now the norm?
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geonic: are you new here?
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> He wants to suicide bomb again
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geonic
it kinda looks like the patients have taken over the asylum
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Hes mad cuz kaya got merged?
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Scammers only?
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> We should cancel yur cucked ccs
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> How bout that
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> not winning no damn oscar aside from being the homie in the 🚮
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geonic
lol someone’s mad but it’s not me
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geonic
this isn’t therapy buddy
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> ^
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> its not AA either
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geonic
although I’m perfectly willing to heap abuse on you until you rage quit again
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geonic
Wanna do that?
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Rage quit? Yur bestie kicked me and i never left, dumbass
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geonic
what a strange coincidence that ctrej grew quiet again once ofrn returned
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> You suicide bombed, dont tell fibs now
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geonic
I like your other persona better
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geonic
u were never banned from this channel nitwit
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> plowsof @plowsof:matrix.org: can you tell this shithead wassup
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<123bob123:matrix.org> You notice mods disappear when this happens?
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Am i ceetee?
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<123bob123:matrix.org> Yest
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<123bob123:matrix.org> I’m rotten
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<123bob123:matrix.org> And geonic is sgp
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<123bob123:matrix.org> Agree?
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> TrasherDK: is my only alt
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<ctrej:matrix.org> what a strange coincidence that I'm about to burn out
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geonic
lmao
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Look its a party
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> And im rejuvenated
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geonic
firing on all cylinders
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geonic
we can agree that there are no mods in this channel
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<ctrej:matrix.org> ffs geonice can't you even give me a weekend off and let me enjoy a movie with my homies?
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Geonic still drinking his lunch
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Notice how geodude always drunk texting on weekends
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<ctrej:matrix.org> ffs geonic can't you even give me a weekend off and let me enjoy a movie with my homies?
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> On irc? Nope
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> You said my name so many times over the last month. I kinda liked it
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Say it again baby
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geonic
alright degens, have fun. you’re in charge now.
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Say my name baby
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> ✌️
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> plowsof @plowsof:matrix.org: you heard the man. me and my alts are in charge now
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<123bob123:matrix.org> V8
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> V14 bro
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> My car gonna win an oscar
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<123bob123:matrix.org> Not esg compliant ban!
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<123bob123:matrix.org> Oscar or golden globe?
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geonic
neither. the oscar is the “moon”, read the ccs.
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> I can't read, otherwise i would
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geonic
if $25k bought an oscar there’d be as many oscar winners as there are bitcoiners
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geonic
dyslexia too? damn, it’s a long list of ailments
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> nah, i just never learned to read
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geonic
ct reads to you out loud?
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Good on you for insulting people with ailments though
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Yes, yes he does. Problem?
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> types for me too
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<plowsof:matrix.org> geonic could cash the milestone 1 cheque yesterday, but he has chosen not to
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> he should cash it out and finalize his shitty career here
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geonic
no problem, keep talking to yourself
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<ctrej:matrix.org> take your price geonic
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<ctrej:matrix.org> you played the game well
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<ctrej:matrix.org> its communities fault that these are the rules
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> "Played the game" haha, thats a gentle way to put it
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<comradeblin:matrix.org> localmonero only dead for me?
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<123bob123:matrix.org> Doesnt like you
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Ya
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<comradeblin:matrix.org> now it loads
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> I fixed it
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Yw
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<123bob123:matrix.org> Ctrl alt defeat
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<123bob123:matrix.org> Tldr meeting?
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Kaya won and geonic is raging
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<comradeblin:matrix.org> dead again
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<comradeblin:matrix.org> BRUH
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<plowsof:matrix.org> algorithm to save on bandwidth: site is offline until someone comaplains via contact email / reddit / tw*tter
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<comradeblin:matrix.org> it loads once and does not load once. idk
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<recanman:agoradesk.com> Give it a bit
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<recanman:agoradesk.com> Maybe you're hitting a dead server
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<comradeblin:matrix.org> you mean loadbalance?
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<comradeblin:matrix.org> and a server I get to is dead
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<comradeblin:matrix.org> ?
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<recanman:agoradesk.com> Yeah
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wrong again. I’m disappointed that the community is changing the way research is done in Monero
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<comradeblin:matrix.org> ahh, understandable
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<recanman:agoradesk.com> Try over tor
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ofrn: are you going to attack with verbal diarrhea in -dev and -research-lab when they refuse to merge kayaba’s work?
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<123bob123:matrix.org> #ban luke and his maid dress?
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Im disappointed that community knows you provide negative value and still pay your bum ass
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serious question
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> No, kick him in the head with bribejestics keyboard
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Its merged pumpum
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not talking about the ccs
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talking about the work the ccs is supposed to produce
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> oh who gives a shit?
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Its code dummy, it needs reviews, audits etc
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Its nlt being merged tkmorrow
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Mr "i dont know how to use git" needs to stfu about git
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this was the most important remark today but it got lost in your diarrhea
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that’s the goal isn’t it
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<123bob123:matrix.org> I’m disappointed plowsof hasn’t provided a free $15 euro a month instances
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<123bob123:matrix.org> #plowsof tightass
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<123bob123:matrix.org> :0
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> youre not a bright guy
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Mr 7 downvotes
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> I even spoke with koe. I dont give a shit what geoscam saya
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kayaba has gotten 0 buy-in from the people he’s supposed to convince
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Spoke with vtnerd, dont give a fuck about geoscam opinion
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Why would anyone consult a scammer?
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what did vtnerd say
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Who is he supposed to convince? You?
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Lmao
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> ask him to comment on both ccs yourself
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<123bob123:matrix.org> Sesth address convo
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<123bob123:matrix.org> Stealth address convo
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read ruck’s comment and argue with it, not me
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this isn’t the way work is done here for a reason. hopefully luigi1111 makes it clear with the merge
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Stfu u scammin dog
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> tell him to explain your merge too, hippo
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Random tuesday confessions, youre frazzled fr
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<123bob123:matrix.org> Luigi does what community wants?
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he did and made me put a disclaimer on top
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> What are you doing here? Scamming? Larping? Being useless af?
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Dont you have an oscar to win?
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Or u ready to cash out and pretend like you didnt just get 100% payment and deliver NOTHIIIINNNGGGG
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> fuckin hippo
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<siren:kernal.eu> Since a few people asked if we sold ATMs last MoneroKon. How much would you people be willing to spend on a FOSS Monero ATM if you wanted to buy one?
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<siren:kernal.eu> Also imagine it isn't a cardboard pizza box and a wooden or metal enclosure
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<123bob123:matrix.org> If it was wooden we can self destruct
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<123bob123:matrix.org> Burn it down!
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> You can sell the electonics, + specs/blueprint for the enclosure
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> so people can build at home
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<123bob123:matrix.org> 3d printed
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<btclovera:matrix.org> I really liked your prototype. Remember I asked you privately for the parts? I have found it impossible to find them. it is complicated and especially the shipping to the Canary Islands (Spain) it seems that customs would not let it pass or would put many obstacles.
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<siren:kernal.eu> I would like to sell kits. They would include all the hardware such as bill acceptor, display, cables and also the enclosure.
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<123bob123:matrix.org> Ikea monero atm
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<siren:kernal.eu> Shipping within the EU, you shouldn't have problems with customs. But I know that the parts can be hard to find or not everyone sells to private persons.
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<123bob123:matrix.org> Unless you sell in kits and parts aswell?
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<123bob123:matrix.org> So if someone can find some parts but not all you can supply
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<recanman:agoradesk.com> How much did one cost to produce?
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<siren:kernal.eu> It's easy for me to bulk order the components as Digilol. And I can resell in a kit.
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<123bob123:matrix.org> Speaking of parts whats happening with see signer?
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<123bob123:matrix.org> Speaking of parts whats happening with seed signer?
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<siren:kernal.eu> Components alone ~500 eur, shipping 50 eur, pizza boxes (priceless).
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<recanman:agoradesk.com> Wow, I was thinking that it would be much cheaper.
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<recanman:agoradesk.com> I don't have a need for a monero atm but I'm sure that 650 or so is a good price for a monero atm, assuming it is pretty capable
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<siren:kernal.eu> TIL metal enclosures don't cost 50 euros :(
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<siren:kernal.eu> It can be cheaper. Not all components are a must. We can have a version without the coin or bill acceptor. Having just the coin acceptor would make it instantly 200 euro cheaper but then it's not very usable :/
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<siren:kernal.eu> I still need to approach local manufactures/metal workers but from what I heard from a friend who lives somewhere else in EU
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<recanman:agoradesk.com> Ah,ok. I just didn't think that a bill acceptor would be so
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<recanman:agoradesk.com> Ah,ok. I just didn't think that a bill acceptor would be so expensive
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<siren:kernal.eu> That part alone is 200-250
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<siren:kernal.eu> That part alone is 200-250 eur
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<siren:kernal.eu> It's the most expensive component
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<ctrej:matrix.org> He put a tiny disclaimer without any highlighting at the bottom, not even at the very bottom, until I complained about that. Which was after it was like 70% funded iirc
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now you can make sure this one has a big disclaimer from the start? since your only worry is about donors being misled and this isn’t a personal vendetta of any kind, of course.
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> plowsof @plowsof:matrix.org: @room did i derail the meeting?
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> or did geonic show up here and start talkin off topic bullshit
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who was luigi talking about here?
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Who was i talking about here? You? Dont feel special buddy
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Clearly the person he was talking to
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Aka me, ans he was responding to my offer to give him a massage in exchange for a rando' merge
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Why do you think im talking about you? Shoe fits well?
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> (Fyi, geonic is currently tryingbto get me banned in #resolutions:monero.social ) lmao
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Im already banned in that room
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> lmfao so i cant reply whiny bs
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whoopsie
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> "ofrn and his 6 alts made me mad daddy! Please ban him!"
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not even mad, just disgusted at the level of discourse here
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> why dont you grow a pair and ping your mods here
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Why r u crying in resolutions?
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Youre TRYING to get me banned ya fkn cow
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this isn’t the right channel for that?
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but yes, for the record I support a permaban
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keep digging
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> "i dont care" than go win an oscsr or smthn
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Who i look like?
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Permaban youraelf retsrd
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<123bob123:matrix.org> hes baiting you
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> I cant be permabanned. thats cucked af. at least Not because you asked
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> I know he is
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u got banned once because I asked
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can’t happen again?
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> And what of it? Some idiot gonna ban be for 14 days agin and thing somethibg is gonna change?
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> I didnt go anywhere
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> I just say back while geobic spammed this room for a month
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> And accused everybody ezcept foe his besties of being me
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Guy has fkn issues
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Contributed naddddaaaa
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U didn’t send your alts to beg for ofrn to come back because they need tech support? lmao
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Just trying to block anybody not names george nicholas from getting paid
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> And fudding firo
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have monero users grown that stupid that they need ofrn to help save them
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> No, i disnt, dumbass
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damn we’ve lost
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Youre fkn retarded and paranoid
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> I have no alts, youre retarded for even saying so for so long
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Worse than fud, just straight up idiotic
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didn’t u just admit to having one alt earlier today
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> "TrasherDK: is my alt"
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> And geonic is retarded if he doesnt know im obviously not
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> selsta is my true alt
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Luigi1111w is my alt
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u like the word retarded don’t u :)
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Im crag wright according to geodude
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what else do u like?
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Youre slow af bro
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Everybody BUT you knows who is who around here
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anyway, not engaging you anymore. will continue to paste your comments to the mods until they act. keep going.
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> I alrwady said peace
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Then you went to a room om banned in, on your knees, and begged
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2 weeks off obv wasn’t enough
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> #resolutions:monero.social everybody can see it
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Duh
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Waste of time. Im. Not. Going. Anywhere.
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> I dont have a movie to sell and a plane to catch
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Im here for the long run, i dont need sgps approval to do what i do
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> again, ✌️
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Dont come mention me 48 times theb whine when i come home
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let’s see how long that lasts
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<ctrej:matrix.org> Difference being votes are 10 to 0 so it's not that controversial to me. If you can't even put a down vote on the proposal after I reminded you several times, I see no reason to remind luigi on your command.
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bro I woke up to 10 mentions by you. you can’t type 2 sentences without mentioning me.
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I give you a day until you say geonic again
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Geonic
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> You said ofrn damn near everyday i wasnt here
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> How about you stop being a hippo
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> And when i say peace, you shush and go about your business
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I said a day, not a minute
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lmao
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hopeless
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> and i prpved you right
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Now hop off my lap
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Im not santa
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Go about your business. You have no place here, do you?
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Just here to try to cancel ppl
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> And by ppl, i dont mean me
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Im uncancelable.
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Gnite folks.
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Btw, if bribejestic gets private warnings, i want one too 😆
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<siren:kernal.eu> If you haven't updated monero.social already, please do. There's a critical CVE.
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<trasherdk:monero.social> Are you kids misbehaving again?
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<trasherdk:monero.social> Do I need to put you over my knee for a spanking?
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<123bob123:matrix.org> kinky