<t​rasherdk:monero.social> So the totally not a company, now has a HR department and a PR department.

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> and legal

jollyboy: >Id be interested to view the video but I boycott youtube as a matter of principle

jollyboy: >we really need a video service for the people

what about a torrent

underrated tbh

especially an i2p torrent, it's anonynmous, but you need patience. just queue it and come back to watch later

<s​omeoneelse495495:matrix.org> why does monero-dev switched to irc ?

always has been

<s​omeoneelse495495:matrix.org> sech1.png

For gods sake start moving to xmpp. Much more modern and better clients. Also better decentralization than matrix.

surprised to see no official channel on xmpp

<r​brunner7:monero.social> old.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/16…ease_consider_xmpp_for_monero_chats

yeah this guy is right !!

Don't see a valid argument against it

If you just vouch for fancy looking clients , why not we all move to telegram and whatsapp then

if anyone is interested in joining the community there , you can find channels like - monero⊙cme or revuo⊙cmc monero⊙cyi and participate there

If you can understand email its not hard to understand xmpp.

<r​brunner7:monero.social> "If anyone is interested in joining ..." Yeah, that's the point, isn't it? It's very easy to look at monero⊙cyi because it has a web interface. A staggering 30 or so members crowding there, with an average of about 0.2 messages per day at the moment.

<r​brunner7:monero.social> yaxim.org/chat/#converse/room?jid=monero⊙cyi

i am not trying to push any agenda here , but atleast people become aware of this

such a lame argument

IRC looks fancy enough to me p2pool.io/u/d9428e2d41f64a41/image.png

<r​brunner7:monero.social> Yes, thousands of people, and that's no exaggeration, must have seen that Reddit thread. And nearly 200 updates. Great! But nobody seems to follow up.

<r​brunner7:monero.social> *upvotes

if you comapre telegram monero group with the irc or matrix channels , you'll also have a fraction of members here

<r​brunner7:monero.social> All nice theory and armchair talk. Nerds among themselves.

<r​brunner7:monero.social> Are we cool, dammit

sech1 , the point is not about being which looks more fancy

<r​brunner7:monero.social> XMPP. It's not dead, it's only sleepin :)

there are way fancier things than xmpp

I used XMPP in, like, 2005

It's still not dead?

its potential is unmined

google tried killing it

<r​brunner7:monero.social> That system itself is dead in the meantime

but all modern messengers are based on xmpp

<r​brunner7:monero.social> What can I buy for that?

sech1 , maybe its time to give a try once again , its been long time :)

<r​brunner7:monero.social> I actually tried after that Reddit post, and the first attempt of joining a group room was greeted with "OMEMO not supported".

<r​4v3r23:monero.social> +1 for XMPP

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> I’ve seen the talk on xmpp thinking its the new 4chan

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> Yeah e2ee on some servers not supported

<r​brunner7:monero.social> And don't bother, I have already heard the apologist arguments why that's the case :)

<r​4v3r23:monero.social> "apologists"

<r​brunner7:monero.social> this chat is also not encrypted

what is the sense in encrypting a public channel

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> Aslong as people are not on telescam

<r​4v3r23:monero.social> OMEMO encryption is basically useless in a public chat anyway

<r​4v3r23:monero.social> XMPP already uses TLS

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> thats a myth , don't know how people get. Most servers support omemo

<r​4v3r23:monero.social> managaing OMEMEO keys in a group chat is a nightmare

<r​4v3r23:monero.social> espceially across multiple devices

i would agree to an extent , it is nightmare

but i haven't seen much encrypted group chats in matrix as well

lets not go too offtopic here , i just wanted to spread the aware ness about this to the community. Hopefully some would appreciate

<r​4v3r23:monero.social> tldr matrix = gaytrix

<t​rasherdk:monero.social> Right up your ally, ey?

<r​4v3r23:monero.social> wow. how witty

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> Back ally

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> Bazinga

<t​rasherdk:monero.social> 🤣

matrix aka gatetrix - it's a low barrier entry / gateway for people to learn about all this^

pumpkin: the other day you said that you had updated to v0.18.2.2

we are on v0.18.3.1 now :)

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> Shit forgot

i was talking about the pocket node app. It is using v0.18.2.2

ok

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> Remind me : tomorrow

<t​rasherdk:monero.social> Soon ™️

<4​rkal:monero.social> Monero Archive I2P mirror is up! khplhtfsbnzitlmj3lmdl7m36ale7iuf2kljvfmomvn7uwrvqx7a.b32.i2p:3000

<4​rkal:monero.social> Cloning the repos still only works through tor rn tho

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Make a vanity i2p :P

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> i2pd-tools is what you need

<4​rkal:monero.social> Any point in helping out with the gitian builds?

<4​rkal:monero.social> Also why is ubuntu 18.04 required? I mean since the builds are done through docker or lxc which is virtualized

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> It uses 20.04 iirc

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> In a docker

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> gitian will be EOL soon 🙏 monero-project/monero #8929

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> it has already been achieved for featherwallet thanks to tobtoht 🫡

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> but yes 4rkal, more is always better !

<4​rkal:monero.social> Is this guide still the most up to date version? github.com/monero-project/monero/blob/master/contrib/gitian/README.md

4rkal: you can also ubuntu 20.04

<4​rkal:monero.social> Just downloaded the 18.04 one so will probs use that

<4​rkal:monero.social> Any upside to using the 20.04?

"Is this guide still the most up to date version" <-- basically yes, you have to replace the version number

no, 18.04 or 20.04 doesn't matter. we wrote 18.04 because that's what it was tested with back when we added it

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> github.com/monero-project/monero/bl…ob/master/contrib/gitian/DOCKRUN.md

<4​rkal:monero.social> yeah using that rn

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