<j​ustfree:matrix.org> hello. Im first time swapping XMR.

<j​ustfree:matrix.org> How long can is transaction from MONERO GUI wallet? Near 30 min left

<j​ustfree:matrix.org> hello. Im first time swapping XMR.

<j​ustfree:matrix.org> How long the transaction can be from MONERO GUI wallet? Near 30 min left

currently there is a large number of txs so it is taking longer to get in a block than usual

the auto fee adjustment is not working and is being worked on as we type

<g​reen_sheep:matrix.org> fiatjaf trying to make the network unusable

<g​reen_sheep:matrix.org> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…matrix.org/xoeQYQqfADorKvzQxeulMrQF

it is usable if you adjust the fee or if the auto adjust was working

even with the next higher fee level the cost is about 2 cents

there is about a 20 block backlog rn so about 40 minutes

even at lowest fee level is should get in a block within < 1 hour

<s​omeoneelse495495:matrix.org> war.gif

<b​awdyanarchist:matrix.org> This guy has GOT to be a secret XMR fan. Poe would be proud.

<b​awdyanarchist:matrix.org> Any chance you have a link on that? I want to tweet it.

<j​ustfree:matrix.org> wow! I had send coins to MONERO wallet near month ago and still "unlocked balance" = 0.000000! How can i use my monero coins? Or i cant use it anymore?

<s​omeoneelse495495:matrix.org> Do you at least see these supposed incoming coins into your transaction history ?

<s​omeoneelse495495:matrix.org> also this is offtopic go to #monero:monero.social

<j​ustfree:matrix.org> yes in "balance" i see it

<s​omeoneelse495495:matrix.org> bug in your wallet

<s​omeoneelse495495:matrix.org> bug in your wallet software

<s​omeoneelse495495:matrix.org> At most fiatjaf is gonna add 10GB to the blockchain

this fiatjaf email is from like 1-2 years ago

<r​brunner7:monero.social> Yup, and as far as I remember back then, right after that announcement, nothing happened that we could really notice

<s​omeoneelse495495:matrix.org> oh no bad news, so good news then

<i​ntr:envs.net> Morpheus: Heya, mind if I DM you regarding moneroj.net?

<c​ryptomorpheus_:matrix.org> Sure

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> Gmail user

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> Was this swap in trocador ?

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> I did a swap when the price was low and took 30mins for changenow to send

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> From when is this lol

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> Still faster than Bitcoin

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> I signed his email up to a bunch of crap out of spite

<r​ucknium:monero.social> recanman: Could you edit your _Monero Standard_ edition to say that the BP++ review is a preliminary draft, like Sarang says in #monero-research-lab:monero.social ?

<r​ucknium:monero.social> * and that conclusions in the final version could be different

<g​reen_sheep:matrix.org> you don't really have a choice if you want to use the big sites

<a​lexanarcho:matrix.org> Yes! Its a coin burn that the miner has to proof. If they go above the allowed space and don't spend the penalty the other miners will reject the block as invalid.

<a​lexanarcho:matrix.org> Just skimmed the chat here. Do you think this flood in tx is organic or someone trying to attack?

<g​reen_sheep:matrix.org> fiatjaf

<g​reen_sheep:matrix.org> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…matrix.org/CqleszYfWajENHNWfDJOYCZz

<g​reen_sheep:matrix.org> maybe

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> and an update on your ccs perhaps recanmann repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/c…als/-/merge_requests/402#note_22988

<g​reen_sheep:matrix.org> I found it from your post lol

<g​reen_sheep:matrix.org> reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/zmxiwg…ng_someone_who_a_couple/?rdt=46225#

<g​reen_sheep:matrix.org> twitter.com/DontTraceMeBruh/status/1603504938771877888

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> It doesn't seem like it's optimized for damage in case it is

<g​reen_sheep:matrix.org> yeah he loves the tech but doesn't want it to succeed because it's not BTC I guess

<g​reen_sheep:matrix.org> that's why he's scared

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> Cringe guy

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> The flooding doesn't even make monero any worse to use

<g​reen_sheep:matrix.org> he made Nostr so at least he's done something useful with his life but this is pretty cringe

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> Nostr is pretty cringe as well but that's more because only BTC cultists use it

<g​reen_sheep:matrix.org> there's some XMR people on there

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> I've tried to run a Tor relay and it never worked :/

<g​reen_sheep:matrix.org> they're not happy

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> Requirement in polices

<g​reen_sheep:matrix.org> nostr.com/nevent1qqs9vczms493du322w…6zkx2j6xyn2uqfw02ldsxpqqqqqqzfgllec

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> maybe one day they will make a Nostr client that actually work properly.

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> I say maybe in 2055AD

<g​reen_sheep:matrix.org> this is hilarious

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> Lol, bitcoiners talking about fixing the world with their garbage chain is hilarious

<g​reen_sheep:matrix.org> screw the BTC maxis and screw the guy who made it because he's trying to ruin the Monero network but Nostr is freedom tech so don't let that discourage you

<g​reen_sheep:matrix.org> screw the BTC maxis and screw the guy who made Nostr because he's trying to ruin the Monero network but Nostr is freedom tech so don't let that discourage you

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> I think I'll look into spamming nostr lol

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> Could be fun

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> if you cook some script for that, please share

<g​reen_sheep:matrix.org> you can annoy the BTC maxis

<g​reen_sheep:matrix.org> but actually use it

<g​reen_sheep:matrix.org> it's a good platform

<g​reen_sheep:matrix.org> Twitter is getting annoying asf with the requirement to be signed in to view anything

idk and they killed nitter too /cry

<e​laryan:hackliberty.org> Well, fuck you, that note looks like you wrote it and you're just trolling us. Nostr and Monero are pretty much friends.

ik*

<e​laryan:hackliberty.org> Fuck you, green shit.

<g​reen_sheep:matrix.org> I didn't write it lol

<a​lexanarcho:matrix.org> Its sad to have to resort to attacking another project in order to make your project a "success". Kinda a admission of defeat.

<b​awdyanarchist:matrix.org> I thought maybe he had just delayed his .."attack".. on XMR until after he got Nostr running. But yea, this makes sense. Old news. I hope it's fiatjaf. Better than the potential alternatives.

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> He doesn't want nostr to get stress tested 😂

<g​reen_sheep:matrix.org> I wanna see more Monero activitiy on Nostr

<w​olffbolt:matrix.org> Why we don't a sort of Nostr for Monero instead of Lightning BTC zaps or something like that?

<g​reen_sheep:matrix.org> sure

<g​reen_sheep:matrix.org> it's a permissionless platform

<e​laryan:hackliberty.org> Well, you sure did write this ☝️

<e​laryan:hackliberty.org> Fiatjaf is a great guy, and I am pretty sure he doesn't oppose Monero, and sure as hell he is not a crazy maxi.

<g​reen_sheep:matrix.org> someone could make that

<w​olffbolt:matrix.org> > <@green_sheep:matrix.org> screw the BTC maxis and screw the guy who made Nostr because he's trying to ruin the Monero network but Nostr is freedom tech so don't let that discourage you

<w​olffbolt:matrix.org> Why we don't have a sort of Nostr for Monero instead of Lightning BTC zaps or something like that?

<g​reen_sheep:matrix.org> bro

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> He literally is

<g​reen_sheep:matrix.org> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…matrix.org/tgbubiFlirAekJWfCRkChyXY

<g​reen_sheep:matrix.org> he is a crazy maxi

<a​lexanarcho:matrix.org> Is it confirmed him?

<g​reen_sheep:matrix.org> reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/zmxiwg…ng_someone_who_a_couple/?rdt=46225#

<g​reen_sheep:matrix.org> twitter.com/DontTraceMeBruh/status/1603504938771877888

<e​laryan:hackliberty.org> Source: YOUR GREEN ASS

<b​awdyanarchist:matrix.org> Unless he's playing some reverse psychology big brain shit, he really is a toxic maxi.

<a​lexanarcho:matrix.org> Ok yeah if he has a history of saying so... Makes sense

<e​laryan:hackliberty.org> of course not

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> it didnt take him 1+ years to create a script to spam Monero

<g​reen_sheep:matrix.org> source: bawdy

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> and hes suddenly doing it now

<b​awdyanarchist:matrix.org> But apparently intelligent enough to recognize the threat that XMR and Eth pose to BTC

<g​reen_sheep:matrix.org> reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/zmxiwg…ng_someone_who_a_couple/?rdt=46225#

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> No

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> I am still doubtful it's a real attack

<g​reen_sheep:matrix.org> maybe it did because he was working on other stuff...

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> How much was spent so far?

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> On spam tx

<a​lexanarcho:matrix.org> Maybe a few thousand?

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> it literally takes an afternoon to begin spamming monero with a shell script

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> Imagine how easy it would be for nostr

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> And it's free!

<g​reen_sheep:matrix.org> relays implement anti spam measures

<g​reen_sheep:matrix.org> there's really not been much spam at all

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> They have anti spam scripts but nothing that can't be outmanoeuvred with new tech

<n​o_2:matrix.org> Surely all this works to Monero's favour ultimately? The attacker is slowly losing funds as Monero fees...

<a​lexanarcho:matrix.org> With a pruned node you can discard like 66% of outputs right?

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> Llama 7b can generate stuff really quickly....

<g​reen_sheep:matrix.org> yep

<a​lexanarcho:matrix.org> If he is not publishing his outputs then he is also increasing privacy for others...

<n​o_2:matrix.org> This feels like a solved problem to me.

<g​reen_sheep:matrix.org> don't give him ideas

<e​laryan:hackliberty.org> Can't access X.

<e​laryan:hackliberty.org> This is bollocks.

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> we have serai for that lol

<g​reen_sheep:matrix.org> this is why we need to move to Nostr

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> If he does, we'd have a real reason to spam nostr instead of just for fun

<g​reen_sheep:matrix.org> or just drum up more monero activity to annoy the maxis

<g​reen_sheep:matrix.org> they're already getting pissed

<a​lexanarcho:matrix.org> Not sure if shooting back will benefit monero.. Its like a trench war of Foss protocols. And meanwhile the nation states laugh their ass ofd

<g​reen_sheep:matrix.org> take over their platform

<e​laryan:hackliberty.org> I can assure you for a fact that he is not a crazy maximalist.

<g​reen_sheep:matrix.org> image.png

<a​lexanarcho:matrix.org> Proof it

<n​o_2:matrix.org> On a kind of related note ofrnxmr[m]: looking at edge cases here, if the conformation time for XMR becomes very high how would that impact swaps on BSX? Would they just time out?

<e​laryan:hackliberty.org> > gmail

<g​reen_sheep:matrix.org> yeah, doesn't sound like crazy maximalist behavior at all

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> It's asymmetrical though

<g​reen_sheep:matrix.org> he links it on his GitHub

<g​reen_sheep:matrix.org> github.com/fiatjaf

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> Their attacking monero costs monero

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> Spamming nostr is free as in beer

<g​reen_sheep:matrix.org> try

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> And funny

<g​reen_sheep:matrix.org> I've not seen any spam

<g​reen_sheep:matrix.org> I think they're prepared

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> Are they prepared for bots acting like humans though

<g​reen_sheep:matrix.org> no need to spam, just using it as it's intended but talking about Monero will piss them off more

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> has moneros hash rate increased. we reached a 3 year low last week

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> A social media site is no fun if 90% of posters are language models

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> Bcs zeph

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> make it 99%

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> pump it bitinfocharts.com/comparison/monero-hashrate.html#3m

<e​laryan:hackliberty.org> First of all - the quotes in "using" and "not hodling" denote sarcasm.

<e​laryan:hackliberty.org> Secondly, he's a very smart TROLL.

<e​laryan:hackliberty.org> And finally - not many outside certain circles know that he kind of hates lightning.

<g​reen_sheep:matrix.org> yep

<g​reen_sheep:matrix.org> everyone mining zeph

<g​reen_sheep:matrix.org> moneroocean.stream

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> this is why we need merge mining with as many of these forks as possible

<n​o_2:matrix.org> Lightning seems broken to me.

<g​reen_sheep:matrix.org> tell me about it

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> Darkfi and Tariq 🚀

<e​laryan:hackliberty.org> it never was non-broken.

<w​olffbolt:matrix.org> twitter.com/cakewallet/status/17658…60364?t=lCvPXJfesQkZjwxAnVVX1w&s=19

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> > <@plowsof:matrix.org> this is why we need merge mining with as many of these forks as possible

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> Darkfi and Tari 🚀

<n​o_2:matrix.org> In ten years time, no one will be talking about lightning.

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> LN "kinda" work if you like centralization and connecting directly to blockstream & friend

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> monerobull and townforge :D

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> LNs online requirement is braindead

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> How anyone thought this would work is beyond me

<g​reen_sheep:matrix.org> let's just use custodial wallets!

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> Yeah, that's genuinely their solution

<g​reen_sheep:matrix.org> this is somehow better than just using Cash App or Venmo

<g​reen_sheep:matrix.org> apparently

<e​laryan:hackliberty.org> And you think Fiatjaf doesn't know that? He doesn't like it, and that email is a joke, trolling.

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> BTC Meetup, someone needed 50 cents

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> Wanted to send me LN

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> I told him to just keep it

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> Lol

<n​o_2:matrix.org> Somewhere satoshi is crying.

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> I still feel like replacing half of nostr with ai bloat

<g​reen_sheep:matrix.org> if he does ever come back...

<a​lexanarcho:matrix.org> I mean.. That's not proof. Don't know this person so I really can't tell the sarcasm. Do you think he is just joking about wanting to attack monero?

<g​reen_sheep:matrix.org> he'd be ashamed

<e​laryan:hackliberty.org> That's a screenshot, not a real email. **If** the email is real, yes, pretty sure that's called "trolling". He doesn't like lightning.

<n​o_2:matrix.org> However I don't think we need to worry. Over time selection pressure seems to favour open protocols Vs closed proprietary protocols.

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> He tweeted this as well

<e​laryan:hackliberty.org> Want a better proof then? Trolling.

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> Not for social media

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> Because social media is retarded

<g​reen_sheep:matrix.org> because ActivityPub sucks

<e​laryan:hackliberty.org> But we are retarded.

<g​reen_sheep:matrix.org> and Bluesky's protocol

<g​reen_sheep:matrix.org> what problem do they actually solve?

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> Lemmy is kinda cool

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> #offtopic for plowsof

<g​reen_sheep:matrix.org> Nostr has subreddits

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> lol

<g​reen_sheep:matrix.org> github.com/nostr-protocol/nips/blob/master/72.md

<g​reen_sheep:matrix.org> there's a Monero community I think

<g​reen_sheep:matrix.org> not much activity last time I checked

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> Real ones or the dead ass one

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> I was looking into a reddit replacement

<r​ucknium:monero.social> "PSA: Manually increase your transaction fee if you want a quick confirmation" reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/1b946w…ncrease_your_transaction_fee_if_you

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> This is for 24/24 words issue

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> And went with Lemmy, even though I liked nostrs decentralization a lot more

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> And non rust questions

<g​reen_sheep:matrix.org> all dead except the art one which has one person posting consistently

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> Impressive

<g​reen_sheep:matrix.org> none of the Nostr clients support any of the other NIPs except Amethyst

<g​reen_sheep:matrix.org> they only bother to implement the Twitter-clone ones

<a​lexanarcho:matrix.org> The issue with federation IMO is that you are usually still relying on someone hosting the server. Nostr with relays and just keypairs as accounts that can go to any relay is a big plus

<g​reen_sheep:matrix.org> I don't think there's a way to even use NIP-72 on an iPhone

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> Correct

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> But they didn't have a reddit clone

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> Also nioc funding announcements too

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> So Lemmy it is

<g​reen_sheep:matrix.org> I don't think there's a way to even use NIP-72 on an iPhone yet

<g​reen_sheep:matrix.org> they do now :D

<g​reen_sheep:matrix.org> github.com/nostr-protocol/nips/blob/master/72.md

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> Monero.town will stick around for a long time

<g​reen_sheep:matrix.org> someone get Damus and/or Primal to implement NIP-72 so iPhone users can use this

<g​reen_sheep:matrix.org> yeah monero.town is cool though

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> Any clients?

<g​reen_sheep:matrix.org> Amethyst

<g​reen_sheep:matrix.org> all the clients other than Amethyst don't bother implementing any of the none Twitter clone NIPs

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> I'll check if reddit clones have improved

<g​reen_sheep:matrix.org> Amethyst is an everything app

<g​reen_sheep:matrix.org> and does it quite well unlike X

<g​reen_sheep:matrix.org> I just wouldn't use it for private messaging as none of the other clients have bothered to implement NIP-59 (Gift Wrap) so everyone can see who you're talking to

<g​reen_sheep:matrix.org> and no forward secrecy so if you suffer a key compromise all your messages are exposed

<g​reen_sheep:matrix.org> I just wouldn't use it for private messaging as none of the other clients have bothered to implement [NIP-59 ](github.com/nostr-protocol/nips/blob/master/59.md)(Gift Wrap) so everyone can see who you're talking to

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> It was so funny seeing BTC maxis return to Twitter after their nostr keys got compromised

<g​reen_sheep:matrix.org> didn't know that happened

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> Really makes you wonder if they keep their coins on an exchange

<g​reen_sheep:matrix.org> I'm assuming they used one of the web clients without the signer extension

<g​reen_sheep:matrix.org> chromewebstore.google.com/detail/no…2x/kpgefcfmnafjgpblomihpgmejjdanjjp

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> This was back when it was new

<g​reen_sheep:matrix.org> oh right

<g​reen_sheep:matrix.org> yeah I think I remember that

<b​awdyanarchist:matrix.org> Given the attack that Binance delisting was intended to be, simultaneous with the market pump, my suspicions lean towards this being an actual attack.

<b​awdyanarchist:matrix.org> It might not amount to much, but someone out there might well be probing.

I was promised a delisting pump

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> We got that

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> 40% in like a week

Lol

<a​js_:matrix.org> I wasn’t delisted, you were delisted!

@no_2 "In ten years time, no one will be talking about lightning." << wrong

Theyll still be touting ln as the next big thing. Soom tm

"p​lowsof:matrix.org> this is why we need merge mining with as many of these forks as possible" << wrong. Its better to dump shitcoins and pump xmr price, than it is to increase difficulty and lower reward, while allowing shitcoins to side attack us

<g​reen_sheep:matrix.org> people are just gonna mine whatever's the most profitable then convert it to XMR

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> 1xmr=1xmr , more hashrate is good

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> :D

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> Ofrn miner revenue goes up with merge mining

<w​olffbolt:matrix.org> Monero network is quite slow rn, why, guys?

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> Set fee to normal

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> Instead of automatic

<w​olffbolt:matrix.org> Ah okay

<w​olffbolt:matrix.org> It's not connecting

<w​olffbolt:matrix.org> Cake wallet

<r​brunner7:monero.social> Seems their nodes are under heavy load and struggle a bit

<w​olffbolt:matrix.org> Finally it's synced

<w​olffbolt:matrix.org> It's a spam attack or not necessarily?

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> Maybe the spammer is using cake

<r​brunner7:monero.social> Hmm. I assume Cake would know, and shout bloody murder already.

<w​hiskey00:matrix.org> Is the sky falling ?

<w​hiskey00:matrix.org> Is this the titanic 😱

<w​hiskey00:matrix.org> Is it over folks ?

<r​brunner7:monero.social> What is "it" in "Is it over, folks?"

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> Rip

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> No docs repo now :(

<r​brunner7:monero.social> No new getmonero.org website with new shiny. Sigh. Over.

<w​hiskey00:matrix.org> Hahahaha

<w​hiskey00:matrix.org> Pack up my Twitter page, Doug shuts down gratuitas haha

<r​brunner7:monero.social> Call off the new MoneroKon

<w​hiskey00:matrix.org> But looks like things are hanging in there

<g​reen_sheep:matrix.org> what?

<g​reen_sheep:matrix.org> Gratuitas is shutting down?

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> Joke

<g​reen_sheep:matrix.org> better be

<w​hiskey00:matrix.org> Lmao it’s a joke, it’s to clear the air that everything will be okay

<r​brunner7:monero.social> A little bit of fatalistic humor

<w​hiskey00:matrix.org> Blocks are growing and we are fixing the fee issue

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> Big words

<g​reen_sheep:matrix.org> I like my coffee

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> I’ll write it down

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> Free pentesting again

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> Or load testing

<r​brunner7:monero.social> Somebody open a prediction market where we can bet how long this spam wave will hold up

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> Everyone increase worker_connections

<w​olffbolt:matrix.org> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…matrix.org/yHAXfVNbkcsBxlTtnTgEFpwj

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> Printed on?

<r​brunner7:monero.social> Nice

<w​olffbolt:matrix.org> Green Sheep: I like my coffee, as well

<w​olffbolt:matrix.org> The letter M in Monero

<w​hiskey00:matrix.org> Is ofrn alive ?

<w​hiskey00:matrix.org> I know monero maybe be dead but he is too quite hahaha

<w​hiskey00:matrix.org> I know monero may be dead but he is too quite hahaha

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> still banned globally from all rooms with banhammer

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> Died in spam attack

<w​hiskey00:matrix.org> This is dope

<w​hiskey00:matrix.org> Why what happened ?

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> 😤

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> When will there be ban amnesty

<w​hiskey00:matrix.org> Is there a way to get off the naughty list

<w​hiskey00:matrix.org> Or does he need to wait till Christmas hahaha

<w​hiskey00:matrix.org> It got so dead after I said his name, like Voldemort haha

<w​hiskey00:matrix.org> But maybe incremental punishment would make more sense

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> That's exactly what the attacker would've said.

<p​ndxmr:matrix.org> and fees are cheap in usd terms, dont think there would be a fix for this unless we do a emergency fork to increase fees till we find a fix

<p​ndxmr:matrix.org> even then if the attacker has lot of funding, it would be useless

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> Speak for yourself, pal!

<p​ndxmr:matrix.org> and fees are cheap in usd terms, dont think there would be a fix for this unless we do a emergency fork to increase fees

<p​ndxmr:matrix.org> even then if the attacker has lot of funding, it would be useless

Im alive, what happened

"still banned globally from all rooms with banhammer" << feather unbanned me, cake unbanned me and removed banhammer

And on irc side

Erc banned me << i was promptly unbanned and erc shown walking papers

Well, i guess he resigned. But potato potato

And yes, site and translation room are still facked and attacked to dead admins and homeservers

And "banhammer" is straight up bullshit :)

Ive said it before, ill say it again

<0​xfffc:matrix.org> By the way do we even have permanent bans? If yes, why?

<p​ndxmr:matrix.org> we are waiting for fireice to put a web interface

we dont

We have coward cancellations

Said it b4.. banhammer's actions should have a reason

And should be signed by the person operating it

Dont ba about "banhammer" or "telegrambot" did it

Mod who did it is gone

And mod who did it, also banned a bunch of other ppl at the same time

I remember the day well. Was a very productive day until etc sgp and scott showed up

Erc*

Undermining YOUR ban and disrespecting you about not cancelling enough people

Then turning around to ban spirobel for months for what you banned lebAnon for 20 minutes and got attacked for

<b​awdyanarchist:matrix.org> It is really weird in Monero, how alot of the primary groups are rather heavily "moderated."

<b​awdyanarchist:matrix.org> Not all, but at least some.

s/weird/suspicious

<b​awdyanarchist:matrix.org> Unless someone is quite literally spamming up a primary focal point meeting place, or if it's supposed to be a work-focused group that is sidetracked constantly by non-work related stuff ... The default should be heavily biased towards not banning. Especially for just not liking the person. Case in point: theRodentIncident on Reddit

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^^^ good use for banhammer

<g​reen_sheep:matrix.org> molly?

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> The problem was the fifo moderating and retroactive banning

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> App?

<a​ndrewjackson:matrix.org> How many in/out peers for a 8mb up/down node would be best?

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> depends

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…matrix.org/QvWbXTGBcQXRpdRnZbLYyVum

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> i had to limit down from 20 to 5

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> because it was hogging my upload

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> ah wrong chart

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…matrix.org/CIEtbrPyTMSVqQmxWHVgWgwS

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> RPC is eating soooo much

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> is there a command to limit rpc rate or is that bad bcs it makes syncing really slow?

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> if so, can i limit rpc connections?

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> without limiting my own wallets

<a​ndrewjackson:matrix.org> I have 12 in 24 out

just don't have a publicly accessible rpc

if bandwidth is an issue

<a​ndrewjackson:matrix.org> other way around

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> its fine at the current 5 in 5 out but i was surprised that the rate limit command was ignored by rpc

rate limit is for p2p

top data usage per day (the the received data is the biggest hike) paste.debian.net/1309831

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> and there is nothing but peer limit to limit rpc upload?

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> plows up is my down 😭

thats a community node, i wish lol

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> man id love symmetric fiber

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> imagine 10 gig

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> My node is behind 2GB symmetric

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> xmrchain is getting slower and slower

<s​packle_xmr:matrix.org> Is anyone crawling network nodes? It would be nice to get some sort of data about how many nodes have issues if the tx volume keeps up.

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> I did notice that too lol

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> were going to have 7k tx in mempool soon

i still check which public rpc nodes relay mordinals still (even though the mining nodes are the ones that matter)

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> Node is surviving well, it go easily to ~25% worth of 4 epyc cores

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> that's the spikes, it often say lower, Id say, ~10%

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> btc mempool has 5,92 times as many transactions as we do

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> oh wow, on my other node, xmrchain eat 100% of one core lol

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> but btc mempool is 8 times larger in size

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> and monerod, like 5% because it's not open to the outside world (only "out" connections)

public rpc nodes in my peer list are increasing over time which is nice paste.debian.net/1309832

monerobull, does your node use --public-node

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> i mean, ive opened the ports

Turn it off and you wont have random rpc traffic

--public-node adds you to simple/bootstrap mode

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> i might disable rpc but i want to seed the blockchain :(

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> nah its fine

rpc is for wallets only

Well, for api access

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> oh right

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> is seeding not included in that?

Seeding the blockchain doesnt require --public-node

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> but it uses rpc

Nope. Just need to open port 18080

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> right?

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> wtf how many people are using my node for their wallet then

Rpc is for wallets, p2p for other nodes. R2p traffic on 18081/18089, and p2p on 18080. public-node broadcasts 18081/18089 to anyone who opens gui on simple mode

Yeah. Thats why i turn if off

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> hm

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> its fine now

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> why does the rate get affected by how many in and out connections i allow?

cuz you only need to relay once to each peer

Flooding - when you get tx, you reseed them to all peers iirc

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> so my problem wasnt rpc but still the high amount of peers

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> idk, its fixed for now and im hopefully getting fiber in a few months

rpc uses more traffic than p2p

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> 7.5k in mempool now

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> 12MB

<j​ohnkmus:matrix.org> Spam is messing up nodes?

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> Only the one that are very well connected, with insufficient ressources, afaik

regular nodes should be fine, the only issues reported so far are highly used public nodes like for example the ones hosted by cake

<p​ndxmr:matrix.org> at what time did the spam stop yesterday ?

<p​ndxmr:matrix.org> i mean flood or mass organic usage

<p​ndxmr:matrix.org> (no of txs: 7425, size: 11541.63 kB, updated every 5 seconds)

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> 10AM EST

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> yesterday We just got an instant burst with a micro plateau

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…ero.social/AEuuRGuBDsMbBlbveNcWvqRg

Rpc slows your node down

<p​ndxmr:matrix.org> intensity has increased since yesterday ? did they accumulate more outputs to spend

So nodes with a lot of wallets syncing or building tx likely have the hardest time

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> Yes, they probably doubled there amount of ammunition compared to two days ago (1:2)

the transactions are 1 in 2 out -- if I were spamming, instead of sending the whole output I'd spend two outputs to myself, splitting the original in half

You dont need to accumulate more until you run out of runds if youre churning

<p​ndxmr:matrix.org> and why do some txs on xmrchain show 1.49kB and 1.50kB for 1/2 txs , bulk is 1.50

so I can double my outputs while I spam

Lyza shh

sorry :x

Haha

<p​ndxmr:matrix.org> how many days before monero is unusable ?

<g​reen_sheep:matrix.org> NEVER

3

<g​reen_sheep:matrix.org> THIS IS WAR

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> Monero is reliable.

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> Bitcoiner trying to make Monero like Bitcoin will fail

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…matrix.org/vgrMmdRUbaUQBHVfCCSnSMkK

the fun part is spamming 100k transactions per day only costs $500 per day

<p​ndxmr:matrix.org> by day 7 it would be x60 mempool

I've been saying for awhile fees are kinda low --- other chains don't financially incentivize spam like Monero does

<p​ndxmr:matrix.org> someone wanted to keep txs cheap and more cheaper if tx increases forgetting ppl can spam lol

i.e. spamming a normal shitcoin only achieves DoS, but spamming Monero gives you valuable information about otehr TXes

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> At a certain point, miners should eat big chunks when fee offset penalty

Its not that fees are low

they are banking on US using auto fee

Their attack got stuck in the mud bcuz autofee is broken

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> Only if the spammer release it's spents info

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> Lfmao

if we use autofee, and they dont, we pay for blockspace, and they squat the mempool

<j​effro256:monero.social> most integers in a tx are encoded with variable width, so a couple bytes of difference in, say the ring signature offsets, might make a transaction go from 1.49 to 1.50 rounded

a nickle base fee would mean $5k a day instead of 500, and hardly impact most users. a nuckle is only 1% of $5

<p​ndxmr:matrix.org> what about cpu usage ? are mobile device capable

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> Btw what's the status on incognito market? Maybe they are just cleaning out their wallets?

my node runs on android. 0 issues

Pi can technically run a noe but it sucks without HW aes

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> This would be the coolest scenario because it would mean this is organic

its not organic at all

monerobull keeps trying :)

I could see the market having a few hundred k users, and maybe seperate wallets for each user, but Idk if they did

but feels like a stretch

<p​ndxmr:matrix.org> nothing organic about this lol

The output was EXACTLY out max confirmation speed

Likely runnining an algo that accounted for us outbidding them

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> Markets have like 2-4 million users nowadays

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> At least the big ones

1/2 tx imply 1 in

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> I can see them have 300-500k deposit wallets

Monero prefers 2 in if available

These are sweep singles

Aka churns

<p​ndxmr:matrix.org> or someone just built a game somewhere to place bets and store it on blockchain privately lol

Its binances fake orderbook

plinko!

<p​ndxmr:matrix.org> orderbooks never lie

the good thing? Mining revenue is up

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> Is there is any eviction plan for monero?

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> (I talk for people accepting 0 confirmation tx)

Yea

<p​ndxmr:matrix.org> by how much ?

Txpool is 600mb by default

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> ok, when we reach that, fee will be more than 0.6XMR anyway so should never append right (except if you manager to fill it in the space of one block)