<u​ser2570:hackliberty.org> nice job

<s​tarlingfarchecker:monero.social> What’s the plan? 👀

<s​tarlingfarchecker:monero.social> It would be cool to have small monero logos throughout

<s​tarlingfarchecker:monero.social> Emphasizing our decentralization

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> I'll make a post in the subreddit in a few minutes if no one else has before. That should probably help.

<s​tarlingfarchecker:monero.social> Oh is it over

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> user2570 said it wasn't?

<u​ser2570:hackliberty.org> nice idea. Also getmonero.org would also be nice

<u​ser2570:hackliberty.org> nice idea. Also getmonero.org next to the logo would also be nice

<u​ser2570:hackliberty.org> how about this

<u​ser2570:hackliberty.org> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…iberty.org/hjTpoaqfNnVmyciwIwmkqnAX

<u​ser2570:hackliberty.org> How about this? I think Norway will forgive us..

<s​tarlingfarchecker:monero.social> The vikings don’t fuck around…

<s​tarlingfarchecker:monero.social> Speaking of the fediverse, i’m in an awkward spot. A bitcoiner in the past has replied to my monero posts, and he’s posted an asklemmy post and I replied “Use Monero” off the cuff as an inside joke.

<s​tarlingfarchecker:monero.social> Needless to say i got downvoted 😅

<s​tarlingfarchecker:monero.social> Here’s the reply

<s​tarlingfarchecker:monero.social> lemmy.dbzer0.com/comment/11916586

<s​tarlingfarchecker:monero.social> Need some backup here folks… 🦧

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> If only town weren't down. 🤔

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> I might create /c/monero and /c/monero_memes (or /c/moonero) in another instance for now.

<s​tarlingfarchecker:monero.social> It’s up but just has a cloudflar mitm

<u​ser2570:hackliberty.org> guys we need backup here🙂

<u​ser2570:hackliberty.org> guys we need backup here🙂

<u​ser2570:hackliberty.org> canvas.fediverse.events

<s​tarlingfarchecker:monero.social> Hb another monero logo here

<s​tarlingfarchecker:monero.social> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…ero.social/QKddXZiEcfQnxBsjzzIyuAyI

<s​tarlingfarchecker:monero.social> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…ero.social/lnadzOKjzyMaiCsengnAQKbV

<s​tarlingfarchecker:monero.social> Started it

<s​tarlingfarchecker:monero.social> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…ero.social/fcWGxkmFvXuJQgjCbCxGZbrm

<s​tarlingfarchecker:monero.social> I suck at art

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> Federation doesn't work because of that. It's virtually still down...

<j​effro256:monero.social> > Please unblock challenges.cloudflare.com to proceed.

<j​effro256:monero.social> No I don't think I will

<u​ser2570:hackliberty.org> 😭

<u​ser2570:hackliberty.org> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…iberty.org/fgauBLlgUzoqlzXyaNAXgXAE

<u​ser2570:hackliberty.org> So, currently all we got on canvas is this 😂

<u​ser2570:hackliberty.org> Hopefully will not be erased...

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> That looks decent, nice.

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> Wouldn't it be great if considering recent monero.town DDoS attacks and federation problems, we launched our "official" Lemmy instance under monero.social? Managed by the same people who oversee monero.social Matrix instance, using a subdomain if main URL can't be used because Matrix is occupying it. That'd be solid, includes the full coin and the TLD is social. Doesn't get much b<clipped message>

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> etter than that, imho. plowsof Dan Miller monerobull

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> i was actually thinking of moving off of lemmy

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> instead I'm interested in satellite.earth/n/Monero/npub1kemda…rmy9l27hmp8gsgnfjr8vdgf8y46sqsw0hnv

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> there wasn't a reddit-style nostr frontend when i set up monero.town but now there is

<x​mrscott:monero.social> I can always run a reddit-style over AP that I've been eyeing that the devs actually seem to know what they're doing if moneo.town morphs to something else

<x​mrscott:monero.social> I can always run a reddit-style over AP that I've been eyeing that the devs actually seem to know what they're doing if moneo.town morphs to something else for those who want AP over Nostr

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> whats AP?

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> Nice, looks good.

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> In that case I'll go ahead and recreate the XMR communities in another instance. Either way, if town ever comes back, it's federated; town will be the "official" one.

<x​mrscott:monero.social> ActivityPub

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> grafik.png

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> the problem is that other instances dont federate through cloudflare proxy and i'd have to whitelist their IPs individually

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> which is a massive pain to do manually via the providers firewall

<3​21bob321:monero.social> rate limiting ?

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> most of this is blocked by cloudflare

<p​awism:techsaviours.org> Yo

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> monerodice.pro

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> shortwavesurfer2009: Are you in touch with tusker from town at all? He was pretty active in a few communities, would love for him to come join us in another lemmy instance.

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> rotten, .town is not dead

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> you act like it is

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> it is under a 40 million requests per day DDoS attack

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> im sorry that this slightly impacts usability...

<g​oon:hackliberty.org> sorry to hear that

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> I don't. Lemmy is federated; there can be hundreds of /c/monero communities in hundreds of different Lemmy instances.

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> they take away from eachother though

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> As for myself, would prefer not to have more than a week without Lemmy, that's why I deleted my account in town and set shop elsewhere. Nothing personal.

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> its not like nostr where all relays can post to the same pubkey and are all shown

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> At least this one will get federated while town gets sorted out. :-P lemmy.cafe/post/6339572

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> > i was actually thinking of moving off of lemmy

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> > rotten, .town is not dead, you act like it is

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> 🤔

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> That's a bit odd, just created the community, already has 32 subscribers. 🤷

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> ever heard of subdomains

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> > i was actually thinking of moving off of lemmy

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> > rotten, .town is not dead, you act like it is

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> 🤔

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> Never! What is that? :D

<c​t:xmr.mx> rotten is right, .town is effectively dead right now. Its questionable if people will return once the DDOS stops

<c​t:xmr.mx> the non&federated frontend is pretty much useless, Lemmy brings value because it connects our community to other people.

<c​t:xmr.mx> the non-federated frontend is pretty much useless, Lemmy brings value because it connects our community to other people.

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> so what exactly am i supposed to do now?

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> that's also not true, user count is pretty similar to how it was before

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> so is post frequency

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> federation was never the reason why I've set this up, it's specifically a backup solution for the subreddits

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> federation was never the reason why I've set this up, it's specifically a backup solution for the monero subreddits

<c​t:xmr.mx> idk how to resolve a ddos either, and I'm not blaming you

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> moving to a different lemmy instance is silly and childish

<c​t:xmr.mx> ???

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> if anything, set up a nostr community so we can build an actually decentralized community

<c​t:xmr.mx> "I dont care if your car is broken down, using another working one is silly and childish"

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> if .town can get ddosed to the point the frontend crashes, any other lemmy instance hosting the same ui can be taken down as well

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> your not solving shit

<c​t:xmr.mx> I'm sorry for using my .town account for browsing other instances

<c​t:xmr.mx> how dare I

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> "this car doesnt drive in the rain, lets use the same exact model where it's currently not rainin"

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> Same ct, ???

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> communities arent shared

<g​oon:hackliberty.org> Could you make it a onion site

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> ct as in ceetee, not community. (?)

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> if you set up a new one i can also just close lemmy for good

<c​t:xmr.mx> Cars apperantly dont drive in rain, and I really want to use a care, so I'm moving from great Britain to Spain to reduce the risk

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> Are you OK? lol.

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> i was looking into tor friendly alternative frontends

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> I believe the UI relies heavily on javascript, doesn't it? Lemmy's UI, I mean.

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> A new community? It's already set up...

<c​t:xmr.mx> lemmys UI relies on dry season

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> actually, no. i've spent countless hours on this shit and calling for exodus because federation doesnt work for a while doesnt make me feel like my efforts are appreciated at all

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> lemmy-meter.info/d/GeoFE5WIz/instan…my.cafe&kiosk=tv&orgId=1&refresh=1m

<g​oon:hackliberty.org> Yes it does but I believe an onion site would be harder to ddos

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> Possibly, hm, will have to ask cafe's sysadmin thoughts on this; or you could ask in the general Lemmy matrix room, perhaps. #lemmy:matrix.org

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> federation via tor is tricky & lemmy has some funky internal routing

<g​oon:hackliberty.org> I think monero.town is valuable and I appreciate you

<u​ser57764884:matrix.org> We need help! SOS!

<u​ser57764884:matrix.org> canvas.fediverse.events

<u​ser57764884:matrix.org> FYI: Monero is being destroyed on canvas

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> image.png

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> Monaco? What the heck happened in there now?

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> user57764884: doubt they'll make any difference but here you go. redlib.private.coffee/r/Monero/comm…24_is_ongoing_participate_draw_some

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> user57764884: doubt they'll make any difference but here you go. redlib.private.coffee/r/Monero/comments/1e3so6l/canvas\_2024\_is\_ongoing\_participate\_draw\_some/

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> lemmy.cafe/post/6341006

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> looks like federation is working

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…matrix.org/XYWKZfoPIDvrCHvlQAxnvcLQ

<c​t:xmr.mx> interesting, I suspected only we were hit, not crypto as a whole

<u​ser2570:hackliberty.org> This is now gone! Thank you for your participation!

<u​ser2570:hackliberty.org> canvas.fediverse.events/#x=619&y=86&zoom=13

<u​ser2570:hackliberty.org> This monero logo is gone! Thank you for your participation!

<u​ser2570:hackliberty.org> canvas.fediverse.events/#x=619&y=86&zoom=13

<u​ser2570:hackliberty.org> Now Monero logo is erased! Thank you for your participation!

<u​ser2570:hackliberty.org> canvas.fediverse.events/#x=619&y=86&zoom=13

<u​ser2570:hackliberty.org> Now Monero logo is erased! There is still time left. Thank you for your participation!

<u​ser2570:hackliberty.org> canvas.fediverse.events/#x=619&y=86&zoom=13

user2570 stop spamming

<u​ser2570:hackliberty.org> ok sorry

<s​hadow06:matrix.org> This reminds me... Any good Monero accounts on the fediverse everyone follows?

<s​implifiedprivacy:hackliberty.org> Fediverse is old news. Nostr is the future

<s​nowman:tetaneutral.net> Nostr isn’t censorship resistant

<s​hadow06:matrix.org> I've been messing around with snort.social... my issue with nostr is the same for every platform... How can I trust these apps they're not stealing my public keys? lol

<s​hadow06:matrix.org> But touche... any good nostr accounts?

<s​nowman:tetaneutral.net> Gov funding cuts

<s​tarlingfarchecker:monero.social> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…ero.social/BEjpLxtHOHcECJZNFpcjvjMw

<s​tarlingfarchecker:monero.social> Maybe we can sneak a monero logo here

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> Elaborate.

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> There's a Monero directory on Nostr, look it up.

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> joinup.ec.europa.eu/collection/open…ews/new-open-source-law-switzerland

<j​effro256:monero.social> Based af

<r​brunner7:monero.social> Hmm, strange, first time I hear about that, as a usually reasonably informed Swiss. Nice indeed. Software developed by and for government agencies must become open source. Seems to me those agencies are still allowed to buy closed-sourced software not developed for them especially, however. And first it's only "core" national government agencies. Plus I can imagine that some compa<clipped message>

<r​brunner7:monero.social> nies may refuse certain government software contracts now because they would not want to have all their works open-sourced.

<j​effro256:monero.social> I'd imagine this doesn't change incentives for contracted companies *too much*. If you're getting contracted by the government for a job, the revenue is basically guaranteed *for that job* unless you screw it up really badly. And how applicable is normal software development for government infrastructure to private sector businesses (and which doesn't already have something opem s<clipped message>

<j​effro256:monero.social> ourced for that issue)?

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> lemmy.cafe/post/6346120

<r​brunner7:monero.social> jeffro256: The company where I work fulltime built some public sector software for many years. But we used our own, homegrown framework to do so, and any open sourcing requirement would have put us in a quite tricky situation. Not sure however how many companies are in a similar situation.

<r​ucknium:monero.social> There is another proposal to the MAGIC Monero Fund for community input: "XMR + Paga: Sovereign Business Infrastructure" MAGICGrants/Monero-Fund #32

<r​ucknium:monero.social> My first reaction is that the cost (222,000 USD) is too high and the state of the software and userbase is too early/uncertain.

<s​gp_:monero.social> I further enhanced the OpenAlias v2 spec today. I added a wallet logic implementation example and simplified the priority routing: openalias/openalias-spec #1/commits/3113c282c494a1b0560456ac9c8777946e704be0

pago was opened as a CCS and then closed

Rucknium my feelings on that XMR+Paga would be similar to rotki integration repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/351 , especially their 50k 1st milestone of research how to integrate monero

oh wait, are pago and paga different? lol

<r​ucknium:monero.social> nioCat: The MAGIC one is Paga, not pago.

<r​ucknium:monero.social> We have not yet gotten page, pagi, pagu, nor pagy. Waiting for those ;)

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> Pagy sounds cool, kind of catchy, not gonna lie.

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> inb4 Rucknium just blurted out a billionaire business idea by spitballing on Matrix!

any short word beginning with p in Esperanto will do, "pano," which means "bread" in English

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> Who the fuck says pano to bread in English though?

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> Ah, pano is bread in Esperanto, not English.

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> Too much THC, kids...

my terrible sentence structure strikes again

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> abrahamjuliot.github.io/creepjs

<m​emefi:matrix.org> Der weltweit führende Dating-

<m​emefi:matrix.org> Assistent

<m​emefi:matrix.org> www1.afego.life/v8L8OE

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> plowsof @plowsof:matrix.org endor00 🎯🔨

<p​lainred:matrix.org> Will we ever move to Rust?

<p​lainred:matrix.org> I’m talking monero wallet

<p​lainred:matrix.org> Should have specified

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> a monero node in rust is underway cuprate.org #cuprate:monero.social

<k​ayabanerve:monero.social> plainred: crates.io/crates/monero-wallet

<k​ayabanerve:monero.social> That's a squat. You actually want github.com/serai-dex/serai/tree/develop/coins/monero/wallet (you'll have to locally build docs and git pin for now)

<k​ayabanerve:monero.social> Addresses, scanning, TX signing, and multisig.