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<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Oh no

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> glad you like it! did you use the comment function as well? part of the idea for donor only comments came from this frustration with people commenting on my ccs proposal that were not interesting in supporting it in any case. there is potential there to create a space for people that are aligned around a certain goal

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> they dont have to micromanage. It is just a different way to build trust. it makes the community more decentralized if it works out

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> but I also see how it can be misused / it can be an overwhelming having to go through so many proposal and judge if they are going to help monero in the long run or not

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> It has worked in other communities that are much larger though. Gitcoin is one example. Just feels like they lost focus a bit and added to many features / the quadratic funding thing is too complex + required sibyl resistance.

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> but I also see how it can be misused / it can be an overwhelming having to go through so many proposals and judge if they are going to help monero in the long run or not

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> but I also see how it can be misused / it can be overwhelming having to go through so many proposals and judge if they are going to help monero in the long run or not

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> It has worked in other communities that are much larger though. Gitcoin is one example. Just feels like they lost focus a bit and added too many features / the quadratic funding thing is too complex + required sibyl resistance.

<m​rcyjanek0:matrix.org> If you build wallet api with wasm then yeah - I can do that on the web

<o​cean:matrix.thisisjoes.site> plowsof @plowsof:matrix.org: monerobull @monerobull:monero.social:

<h​ayashidamakoto:matrix.org> Hi everyone

<m​onerobull:monero.social> hello

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> that is the plan 🔥

<m​rcyjanek0:matrix.org> Sexy idea indeed

<m​rcyjanek0:matrix.org> Do you have any WIP sources?

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> the new library is still in a closed repo. I have built a wallet-rpc around woodsers monero-cpp (which is compiled to wasm with emscripten) : github.com/spirobel/monerochan-merchant-rpc that is the only thing I have public currently with regards to wasm and monero. the new lib results in a much smaller wasm package and more robust connection with the node

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> the new library is still in a closed repo. I have built a wallet-rpc around woodsers monero-cpp (which is compiled to wasm with emscripten) : github.com/spirobel/monerochan-merchant-rpc that is the only thing I have public currently with regards to wasm and monero. the new lib results in a smaller wasm package and more robust connection with the node

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> video description: youtube.com/watch?v=_FN9Wvdp9eA can also recommend exploring the monero-ts docs github.com/woodser/monero-ts/blob/m…/docs/developer_guide/data_model.md (if you intend to use this)

<m​rcyjanek0:matrix.org> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…matrix.org/yLJyytFpixGmuHdWkbaeuHjK

<m​rcyjanek0:matrix.org> well well well, how turntables :p

<m​rcyjanek0:matrix.org> turns out I have accidentally made similar thing

<m​rcyjanek0:matrix.org> but not for the frontend - for the backend instead

<m​rcyjanek0:matrix.org> **but** that being said, building wallet_api with emscripten is a nice idea

<m​rcyjanek0:matrix.org> but I suppose I lack time to do it at the moment

<m​rcyjanek0:matrix.org> I already work like 12 hours a day on all the stuff

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> wasm is a good target. not a fan of emscripten tbh

<m​rcyjanek0:matrix.org> i was today years old when I learned that there are other toolchains for targetting web browsers

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> rust and zig can do it very well

<m​rcyjanek0:matrix.org> that being said last JS line I wrote (last month excluded) was in 2020

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> #monero-community-dev:monero.social

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> there is a lot of nuance to this. emscripten had its time and place, but its not the way forward. I feel the same about other solutions that generate js wrappers as part of the build.

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> I write it everyday it is a great language and ecosystem

<m​rcyjanek0:matrix.org> plowsof doesn't want to hear us talking about the code here lol

<m​rcyjanek0:matrix.org> for sure it is a pleasure to write some code in it, but Go will be my favourite of them all <3

<h​cnop:matrix.org> The first time I heard about Monero was in 2014, at the time I didn't pay much attention to privacy, I was relatively interested in it. Today more than ever I need to find ways to regain some privacy onchain and, here comes into play Monero.

<h​cnop:matrix.org> Reading The Monero Book articles and other writings, it seems that Monero is really a secure protocol that can hardly be broken in terms of privacy. There are many companies today that didn't exist before; Chainalysis or Elliptico, to name a few.

<h​cnop:matrix.org> Well, we all know that there are evangelists and detractors. Now I would like to focus on the detractors, people who do not agree for example that Monero is not really that secure in terms of privacy because for example it is possible to trace addresses or amounts by doing certain things. I would also like to hear the other side of the story.

<h​cnop:matrix.org> Do you have any experience in this regard and can you point me to some person or company that claims to be able to trace the chain in some way and understand the spending patterns that we all know about Bitcoin?

I'll trace all your transactions if you send me your private key

<s​ecureshift:matrix.org> 🤣

@kewbit github.com/KewbitXMR/haveno-plus/tree/development i dont see a license

"Is the Creative Commons licence OK?" This is software. Mit, apache, bsd, gpl. I'm not a license expert but i would think that while cc CAN be used for sw, is not intended for it

" I am now conforming to rule 4:" << without a license, youre not conforming. Source available != licensed permissively

Should mark the proposal as a draft, or close it until remedied

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> I am also not a licence expert

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> What do you recommend

<n​eromonero1024:monero.social> bsd = use the source code in whatever manner you like (sell it, integrate it in closed-source or whatever), no need to acknowledge the original source

<n​eromonero1024:monero.social> gpl = use it in whatever manner u like but it must be open-source and have to acknowledge the original author/source

<n​eromonero1024:monero.social> afaik

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> How’s this:

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Copyright 2024 Kewbit

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Permission to use, copy, modify, and/or distribute this software for any

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> purpose with or without fee is hereby granted, provided that the following

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> conditions are met:

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> 1. The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be included

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> in all copies or substantial portions of the Software.

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> 2. If the Software is used in a public space to do work that the user is

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> paid for, the user must perform the Chicken Dance upon request.

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED "AS IS", WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EXPRESS OR

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY,

<3​21bob321:monero.social> opensource.org/license/mit

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> I like the idea of making it fully permissive in the sense that anyone can use it for anything modify, distribute, publish, but not profit from it, and any work it’s used in must be open source too

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> AGPL is an option, probably makes the most amount of sense if haveno is also AGPL

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> why is there even a discussion

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> agpl-v3 literally states you HAVE to use the same license

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> It’s not derivative

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> you use haveno code, no?

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> I can choose not to do AGPL

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<k​ewbit:matrix.org> No, I can distribute without a single line of haveno code

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> But I still think AGPL is best

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> and what about the windows client

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Can do without any line of code, but the user could still install it

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> But that’s the users decision

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> The source code literally contains none of the original code at all

and it also doesn't contain any license file

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Even the protobuf file that interfaces with haveno is all written in dart

all im saying, is until the license if figured out, close or mark as draftn

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Yeah I’m going to add one now

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> and what about

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…matrix.org/DjzumtAoYfFvmoSJrQLuLnfv

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Wheres that from?

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> you are quite literally connecting AGPL to a network

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> you are quite literally connecting to a AGPL network

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> That is a grey area

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> is it reaaaally though

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> I think so yeah

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> wikipedia says AGPL fixes a loophole of GPL

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> regarding server stuff

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Mb, delete the spam comments as well pls b thx

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Cause if it’s through tor, prove I’m interacting with that software

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> where, on irc?

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> afraid i cant do that

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> oh great mindset

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Interesting take tho

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> not really

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> :D

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…matrix.org/ANSbXktRxzBuWlEMccRotiUr

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> you are quite literally writing software that connects to a network running AGPL software

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> which per license definition is distribution

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> and distribution needs the same license

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> No, above

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> matrix.to/#/!WzzKmkfUkXPHFERgvm:mat…cial&via=matrix.org&via=libera.chat

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> I’m licensing it AGPL

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> You banned the user but didnt delete the msg

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> huh, its gone on my end

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> :S

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> should be gone now

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Gone now

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> could only see it form the other account

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> could only see it from the other account

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> good

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> btw it looks REALLY BAD when someone suggests dodging FOSS licenses, even more so when they want to receive community funding

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> my poit is: this comment makes you look like a mega asshole 😂

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> my point is: this comment makes you look like a mega asshole 😂

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> I don’t really care what it looks like, and the reason for that is I’ve spent 2 months working my ass off, if a developer trying to protect his interests as making him an asshole then so be it 😂

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> What you should appreciate is that I’m doing what you’ve suggested nonetheless and leave it at that.

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Well, its not about appearance to me

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> > you should appreciate is that I’m doing what you’ve suggested

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> no fuck you

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Its simply: no license? Look for funding somewhere else

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> you cant say "be grateful im following the license that i literally have to follow"

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> not how FOSS works

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Ffs 🤦‍♂️

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Dont even advertise your project using ccs if your license isnt open. Thems is the rules

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> its not even that complicated

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> just follow the damn license

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> you really think someone is going to "steal" your code and claim the bounty and wed just go "hm yes, here have the monero" ???

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> kewbit, tip: you could have just said "i havent started this project yet. There is no source code, just mockups" and then syntheticbird wouldnt have anything to complain about

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> 🤷‍♂️

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> I really don’t understand the hostility

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Then boom. Release everything on day 1 and collect all milestones at once 🤣

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> I literally am licensing it

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> I already done 2 things asked of me without complaining which was open source and remove proprietary licence

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> i totally get your position, you want to make sure your work wasnt for nothing. i also get the tor comment because i love thinking about "exploits" like that too. you just cant actually say that, not in a FOSS community

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> But you’re going ape shit

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> I'm referring to the people who dont want to allow you to be paid for already completed work. You should just lie and say that no work has been completed yet

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Getting a kick out of it clearly

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> its out of necessity

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> we only got here because people strongly defended FOSS

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> you cant make compromises or else the corpos will abuse the shit out of it

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> I appreciate that you’re defending FOSS, I’m all for it

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> i have nothing against you <3

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> i think what youre working on is awesome

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> and you obviously deserve to get the bounty

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Ok good, I thought you were hatin’ lol

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Corps will steal mit code faster than it gets posted

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Even bitmain used xmrig code without attribution

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> microsoft be training Chat GPT5 on your private github repos

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> nah its just a touchy subject

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> if they were a US company, legal action could probably change thta

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> if they were a US company, legal action could probably change that

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> the chinese arent exactly known for caring about IP protection all that much

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Yeah wouldn’t surprise

xmrig code wasn't mit, it was GPLv3

Bitmain just didn't care about licenses

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> i think ive read about it somewhere and that you have to manually opt out but maybe im wrong

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Yeah

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> don't distord my words. I never said I was against paying an already completed work. Just that it wasn't the CCS goal to begin with

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> ^

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> The CCS design isn't adapted for this type of work and it just cause other to claim more unhealthy adaptation to the CCS process

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> You said it sounds scammy

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> My bad if you can't understand that *The whole spirit of CCS* means we're in the context of CCS

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> ^

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> github.com/KewbitXMR/haveno-plus/blob/main/README.md

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> check it out! Does this mean you can mark me as started on the bounty now at least

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> CCS = community crowdfunding. It doesnt mean "charity for devs who csnt afford to work"

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> github.com/KewbitXMR/haveno-plus/blob/main/LICENCE.md <-

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> just read the website categories ffs

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Just because someone can AFFORD to so the work, doesnt meant their work should go unrewarded

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> "Website categories"?

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> You know the literal first four titles on the index page of ccs.getmonero.org

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> it that doesn't speak for itself

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Yes of course. But that isn't CCS. If it was a bounty I would gladly give it. If kewbit wish rewards for its works, then he can ***SELL IT TO THE COMMUNITY***

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Kewbit > the license and the code are on different branches 🤔

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> and not ***REQUEST FUNDINGS FOR COMPLETED WORK***

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> "ideas" doesnt mean "lets fund a unicorn"

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Read the rules

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> don't change topic

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> kewbit this has notthing to do with you btw I like your work and wish you to succeed

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Your work on the project can begin before the proposal is fully funded, and milestones may (at times) be paid out before the proposal is fully funded.

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Doesnt say anything about whether work has to begin AFTER its accepted

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Do I need to explain what was the original telling of this rule or do you wanna adapt this line the primary idea behind CCS?

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> yes because its obvious its in the range of launching the proposal

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> The supply-demand economy is a fundamental law that doesn’t escape a community just because it’s aiming for FOSS. You still have to respect this law if you want to progress effectively

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> It shouldn’t matter when someone approaches with their contribution, it’s the value of the contribution that should be considered.

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> No. Having an _idea_ doesnt meant its feasible

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> This is beneficial to both parties not just one

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Its simply responsible for someone to begin the work before even asking

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> thats why we're debating in meeting whether to accept it or not indeed. Needs to link you to CCS that got rejected because the idea was infeasible ?

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> I agree

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> but it's not responsible for someone to finish the work and then ask

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> on a crowdfunding platform

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> CCS is here to launch things, not buy things.

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> or helping to launch

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> The type of person who will just start work silently without asking for anything right away is probably the type of person that you want to be working on it.

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> ccs takes time to be merged, should devs be forced to avoid completing milestones before jts accepted?

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Well

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Is kewbit's ccs takes 3 months to be mergrf

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> and he finishes the whole project in the meantime?

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> What if** kewbit

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Movie was already made and ccs paid for marketing, so precedent set

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Should we then reject the proposal because "he didnt need the funding"?

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> My proposal is that it will be done by then lol

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> its another topic. and yes i agree ccs take too much time but thats not because of a few inefficiency that you can justify the idea you defended 9 messages earlier

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> I'm defending work done = work paid

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> marketing hasn't started before the ccs afaik

<3​21bob321:monero.social> So what are playing light sabers over?

<3​21bob321:monero.social> The project was made

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Already

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> haveno ui didnt start before ccs, and it never finished

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> nope, its our fault for being too slow, he registered itself, completed the work in the meantime. he deserve the reward

<3​21bob321:monero.social> No community input

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> So if I were presented with that ultimatum, would that not incentivise me to drag out the work make it take forever so the donations keep rolling in?

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> If it was finished before ccs, we'd gave a ui

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Have*

<3​21bob321:monero.social> And no previews unless you donated

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> oh yes please bring all the failed ccs over to prove ccs is badly designed

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> and don't bring all the ccs that succeeded

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Which ones succeeded

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Gupax

<3​21bob321:monero.social> What is this arguement over?

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Processes and procedures

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> whether to allow payment for projects that are completed before merge

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Asking for funding on something already done?

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Or milestones that are completed before merge

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Well its not a bounty

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> To be precise, ofrnxmr is defending the idea that we should encourage retroactive CCS. Meaning you complete work and after completing it you open a proposal for reward of your work. I disagree with this idea

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Whether we should have told kaya to ggfy when he asked for the already-completed fcmp work

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Its either ccs or kuno

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Or whether we should have expected him to ask for funding before knowing if it was possible

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Kayaba CCS are an exception as they are just a centralized way to see the budget allowed by MRL (core) and magic to the fcmp development

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> I much prefer the route that leads to success, vs the route painted with pretty flowers and unicorns, but no substance

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> What? The first ccs was community funded

<3​21bob321:monero.social> No exceptions, slippery slope

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Core and magic didnt donate a piconero

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> It was retroactive

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Magic are the exit ramp

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Ah alright my apologise

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Geonic was going on about it

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> yeah ig you mark a point on kayaba ccs. Still not fan of the idea however

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Retroactive this and that

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> I'm not suggesting people show up with 5yr old projects and extort $

<3​21bob321:monero.social> I see no kissy face make ups

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> ok that's interesting.

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> how

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> whats rules, what expectation

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> if it is sounds then yes you answered my primary concern and i'll be willing to believe retroactive ccs is a good thing

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Ima waiting on molly server still

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Statue of limitations is 5 yrs

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> he should just fork simplex

what would jack dorsey think

<3​21bob321:monero.social> WWST

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> i won't be against but forking an audited and massive haskell cryptographic codebase seems like a bad idea

so much spam lately on matrix, is it the new telegram?

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Telescam ia worse

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> it would be very hard to maintain

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> How? Just merge from upstream

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> The only patch would be adding monero payments

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> And changing default servers

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Molly is a signal fork with a bunch of shitty modifications, like broken icons and themes

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> As well as showing some metadata that signak hides (like registration date and how many devices a peer is linked to)

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> > like broken icons and themes

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> it's not a bug its a feature

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> lol

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> haha

Monero v0.18.3.4 is now available on getmonero.org

<h​cnop:matrix.org> You can explain [pull 4308](monero-project/monero-gui #4308) (OpenAlias)?

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Openalias allows you to send monero to addreses

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> to domains*

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Monero-gui previously didnt allow the @ symbol

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> what domains? email, dns ?

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/2uv214/what_is_openalias

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/2uv214/what_is_openalias/cofv4br

<h​cnop:matrix.org> Oh ok... they are not like the aliases on ethereum that you enter any name like me on social media. With OP you must have registered an internet domain. Ok, well done, it avoids astronomical addresses.

<h​cnop:matrix.org> Now a question... the post on Reddit is 10 years old, how is it possible that in 10 years they distributed it today?

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Wdym?

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Its been in use for that long. Gui just added the @ symbol as a valid character

<h​cnop:matrix.org> Yes, that's right, I'm just looking into it now. So, out of curiosity, is an address now possible: dona⊙mc? What has essentially changed?

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> just that monero gui will accept @ as a valid character

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Previously it would tell the user that an address containing `@` was invalid

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Monero-gui is just acting as client, and checking the recipient address fir validity

<h​cnop:matrix.org> So now you can send with Monero gui to both @ addresses (eg pay⊙mc) and . (eg pay.monero.com), correct?

<h​cnop:matrix.org> What I don't understand is what changes from . to @ if it is not linked to an email...

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Read here

OpenAlias version 2.0 is being worked on. #openalias (there is a bridged matrix room)

<3​21bob321:monero.social> ©️magic ™️ ?

Entirely possible

<s​nowman:tetaneutral.net> Open alias email isn’t necessary anymore. Protonmail just bolted privacy onto Bitcoin by adding the email functionality.

<s​nowman:tetaneutral.net> Sorry but Monero can just copy paste this code like they’ve done for everything else. The race is over.

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> What? Lmao

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Wrong room for this convo

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Monero