<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Uhm

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Theres no view key for when 15k is cashed out to pay a credit card bill

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Thats the only person with the ability to, yes

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> i didnt get the joke

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> he seems to be busy with another project

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> paying freelancers with crypto or something

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> You can learn the total incoming amounts using twit or view key, but no idea how much was converted to fiat and used to pay what bills

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Once upon a time, gf secretly paid an employee using gf

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> They used the ccs wallet to pay the employee, then refunded the ccs wallet using the gf

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Core eventually blamed and shamed the employee, and claimed they would do regular transparency reports to avoid a similar situation

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> We got like 1 report on time

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Monero was also sponsored by core team companies, who when the companies didn't pay the bill, the gf was used to cover.

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> tldr: gf is a mess only helps us know how big the boat is

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> that employee should be diego right

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> y but i was asking about a report on outflow not inflow

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> yepyep

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Exactly, and i want a report on conversions and spending, not just "we donated to a b and c ccs"

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> the ccs donations are public. What isnt, is how much is being used to pay credit csrd bills, or the invoices / the bills being charged to the credit card

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> shouldnt we sabotage the BF and his new business when he is clearly fucking over us?

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> no

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> cough cough, sanction, i mean sanction

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> bF didnt lose 400k

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> At least i can say that much

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> but he is delaying the report

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Hes a busy guy

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Living on a boat isnt cheap.

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> cant he transfer the responsibility with keys and all that to the core?

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> or community

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> to who? The guy who lost 400k?

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> lol

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> you guys did some update on the getmonero website

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> did you guys replace the GF address?

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> No

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> There are 2 generalfunds

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> The donation one, and a second one. One of them is periodically swept to the latter

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> oh didnt know that

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Yeah, the second was created when fluffy was in custody, or shortly after

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> so which one is the compromised one, the second one?

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Neither, but the first is the one compromisable (i think)

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> why we need 2 wallets, its just complicating things for no gains

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> ccs wallet is the wallet that was compromised

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> what is the name of the second one

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Gf2

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> again, why you guys didnt change create a new wallet and replace the old address?

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> bureaucracy?

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/11fslu…fund_transparency_report_march_2023

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Some info here

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<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> here we go again

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Fluffypony and I have the seed for the GF wallet. When Fluffy was placed into custody in the US, I mentioned that I had moved the funds to a wallet he did not have access to. I created a secondary wallet (GF2) that simply contains the bulk of the funds. I regularly spill funds over from GF to GF2 when there is too much in GF, and only spend from GF for simplicity of tracking. Henc<clipped message>

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> e there was no outgoing transaction from GF2, which effectively acts as a saving wallet so far. The primary wallet (GF) remains the same, as it has the donation address everyone knows.

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> who wrote this

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> The repayments to me are because I covered some servers for many months out of pocket (at some point being $15k down), while we were missing and unsure about some sponsors. For the record, I had mentioned these repayments in several public community meetings before executing on them.

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> bF wrote that

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> (Copy and pasting from the report)

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> .

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> *in the recent website rework

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Who is you guys?!

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Community has 0 control or input (or insight) into GF

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Dont blame me for getting a transparency report a 1.5yrs after the event

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> we can change this

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> ccs.getmonero.org/donate

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> right?

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> change the wallet address in there with a new wallet

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> do we know the new addr

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> 😂

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> i can send you if you lacking an address lol

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> (im jk, we do know it)

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> so the main problem is, who should control the new wallet?

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Change your name to "real_genfun"

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Thats not exactly on the table. The real question is, whether we'll ever see that money

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> ccs wallet went poof, remember

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> sadly im not into scamming

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Anyway, we have some technological challenges before we can finish this discussion

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Or rather, ux ones

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Til then, were just waiting for transparency report

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> didnt know that there were unsolvable technological challenges for a web design aside from infra problems

<s​hortwavesurfer2009:monero.social> Help get full ipv6 support in cake wallet by simply adding a 👍 to this issue

<s​hortwavesurfer2009:monero.social> cake-tech/cake_wallet #1200

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Good luck with that one

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> I’ll pat on the back whoever does that

<s​hortwavesurfer2009:monero.social> Well, it definitely needs doing. The internet is not going to be IPv4 only forever.

<s​hortwavesurfer2009:monero.social> Hell, 45% of Google's traffic flows over IPv6 already.

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> bro

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> IRC

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> do i need to say more?

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> ipv4 is like IRC and like email list, unkillable boomer tech

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> yet I would prefer an ipv6 only world

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> It’s does but things are slow when they don’t matter to anyone. Nobody is waking up in the morning thinking IPv6 must happen! It will just happen eventually when IPv4s get too expensive, like if they became like 10$ there would be more motivation.

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> IPv6 means less routers too, because less NAT issues

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Eventually NAT may no longer be a thing

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> In 2022 a **single** ip address cost 50$

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> to buy

<s​hortwavesurfer2009:monero.social> SyntheticBird

<s​hortwavesurfer2009:monero.social> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…ero.social/QJVfIWtYFTBHkLRBgTDzjrBP

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> I know, I have friends who hold them as part of their asset portfolio… lol

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> lol thats brilliant

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> ?

<s​hortwavesurfer2009:monero.social> You mentioned IRC. So I just showed that even the IRC servers have IPv6.

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> He has like 20 class C blocks which he mostly used for sending some of the most filthiest spam ever, now rents them all to a hosting company and somehow they still just pay

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> weird story

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Yeah

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> i don't know any provider that would buy ip blocks that are flagged by spamhaus

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> IPs are valuable for email spamming apparently

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> but ig everyone needs network

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> yeah since blocking is IP and domain based

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> In fact the guy I’m talking about is Michael Boehm

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> That obviously was not his real name

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> But he was the #1 spammer in the world on spam house for ages

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> > Michael Bohm is a German male weightlifter, competing in the 85 kg category and representing Germany at international competitions. He competed at world championships, most recently at the 2007 World Weightlifting Championships.

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Reverse engineered the BGP protocol and started hijacking Microsoft unused IPs somehow

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Sending spam with them

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> These massive companies still just hold them using them for nothing, and if you don’t announce and IP via a BGP it’s possible to hijack them, not sure if that’s still the case

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> These massive companies still just hold them using them for nothing, and if you don’t announce the blocks via a BGP it’s possible to hijack them, not sure if that’s still the case

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> 1. that is still the case (ik people who do)

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> 2. pretty impressive to reverse engineer an open source protocol

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> I only got 20% of the story give me a break

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> shortwavesurfer2009: a thousand thumbs up are less effective than someone make a pull request monero-project/monero #9443

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> He was very secretive about that shit he was doing

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> yeah dw, he is knowledgeable thats for sure. glad you know this kind of people

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> I been to Thailand with him several times

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> He was running it over there

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Everyone will use ipv4 till the end of time

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Which will be soon™️

<s​hortwavesurfer2009:monero.social> NO MORE IPV4. Somebody should hold a sign like that up behind a senator or something like the Bitcoin person did in 2017 or whatever.

<3​21bob321:monero.social> What do we want

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Ipv6

<3​21bob321:monero.social> When do we want it

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> 10 years ago

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Answer is now sir!

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Monerod doesnt even properly support ipv6 yet. it has ipv6 support but iirc the logic for it is bad

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> I think it has to be explicitly enabled, no ipv6 seed nodes, something something that i dont remember

<s​hortwavesurfer2009:monero.social> RPC over v6 works and manual peering over v6 works (from what i can tell), but automatic bootstrap anf node peering is v4

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Yeah but it doesn't enable ipv6 by default, so the network of peers doesn't really exist

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Not sure how it handles a node that has ipv6 and ipv4, if it would connect twice or what.

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> cc: @boog900:monero.social i'm curious about that

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Monerod disable ipv6 by default because there is a risk of sybil attacks (aka consensus attacks), iirc the last news was that they wanted to chop the ipv6 to /48 to avoid too much spam. But you should look at the issue, everything is explained on it

<s​hortwavesurfer2009:monero.social> Yeah, I think I saw that bit about them wanting to chop it down to smaller segments. But I have not looked into it super recently.

<b​oog900:monero.social> I can't see a reason a node wouldn't connect twice, they would see 2 separate addresses

<b​oog900:monero.social> The peer_id would be the same but that is only checked against our own peer_id IIRC not other peers