<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Isn’t there a bunch of node more in Germany than anywhere else

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Isn’t there a bunch of nodes more in Germany than anywhere else

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Hetzner!

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> geonic thats fake news

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> it wasnt tor but some chat app that got deanonymized

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Sms?

<r​brunner7:monero.social> monerobull: I have to oppose. That's not fake news, it seems that in this special case they really were successful by timing analysis of tor traffic. See this original article in German, just just any translator if you can' read German: tagesschau.de/investigativ/panorama/tor-netzwerk-100.html

<r​brunner7:monero.social> Problem is not fake news IMHO but "fake" impression that this gives: Just because in a single case it seems they were successful it's not time to throw away tor because "deanonymized" and we all can as well go back to clearnet surfing and save the hassle. It's like Chainalysis did not "deanonymize" Monero just because in one carefully selected case for wow-ing people in a demo the<clipped message>

<r​brunner7:monero.social> y were successful to find the sender.

<3​21bob321:monero.social> to normies it looks like it was broken

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> rbrunner the article doesnt mention they traced it because bud was using an unmaintained chat program

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> that was 2 years out of date

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> with a flaw that doesnt exist in the maintaind fork

<3​21bob321:monero.social> blog.torproject.org/tor-is-still-safe

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> yeah

<3​21bob321:monero.social> this is why you need to be up to date

<3​21bob321:monero.social> its not like windows where shit breaks

<r​brunner7:monero.social> Alright. Still not fake news. That 2-year old version *did* still allow timing analysis, and that's what they did, and they were successful with it. Right?

<3​21bob321:monero.social> its miss represented

<3​21bob321:monero.social> like out community leaders

<3​21bob321:monero.social> our*

<r​brunner7:monero.social> And I am well aware how this *looks* to normies. And maybe that's the plan.

<r​brunner7:monero.social> It's at most "lying through omission". Not fake news.

<r​brunner7:monero.social> At least not in my book.

<3​21bob321:monero.social> not fake, just missing a lot

<r​brunner7:monero.social> I reall, truly do not want to lose credibility as a project because we call something "fake news" outright which is a position that is hard to defend. I want people to trust our integrity and trustworthiness.

<3​21bob321:monero.social> its the new buzz word

<3​21bob321:monero.social> like crisis

<r​brunner7:monero.social> And "being excited" :)

<3​21bob321:monero.social> tutanota is excited now too

<r​brunner7:monero.social> Ok

nothing is 100% secure, do not burn software to DVD-R disks

attacks on tor a well researched, and have been / will continue to be performed

<h​avenouser:monero.social> fake. law enforcement is involved in protection of pedophilia. this system is based on pedophilia, human trafficking and mainly adrenochrome harvest

nice place for further reading whonix.org/wiki/Speculative_Tor_Attacks

so you're saying the frogs are ok?

<3​21bob321:monero.social> i use DVD-RW

i use PEN AND PAPER

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> wildly touting one thing that barely has anything to do with another thing but makes the second thing look worse is fake news

encrpypted seed storage is a myth /s

<3​21bob321:monero.social> i have military grade encryption

<3​21bob321:monero.social> beat that

not safe

must use pen and paper

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> MERCEDES CARS WILL KILL YOU THROUGH RANDOM TIRE EXPLOSIONS ON THE HIGHWAY (if you use these specific recycled wheels from a chinese dump)

<r​brunner7:monero.social> Didn't we have similar situation with Monero? Use an outdated software release, have a one-off decoy selection bug still in there, long corrected in the most recent version, have your txs stand out because of that bug. "Txs stood out" was not fake news.

actually was possible to hijack cars and diasble their brakes through onstar iirc

<r​brunner7:monero.social> > barely has anything to do with another thing

<r​brunner7:monero.social> Ah, come on, the tor project had to work hard and improve their software to make timing attacks ineffective. They were possible for quite some time, obviously.

<r​brunner7:monero.social> With a *lot* of effort, time-wise and money-wise, but still. Informed people make good decisions.

<3​21bob321:monero.social> feature not a bug

should this reddit thread be deleted? tldr: blockchain on getmonero is 2 yrs old, download my one instead' reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/1fnh6x…sion_of_xmr_blockchain_block_height , i wish the blockchain on getmonero was deleted too though

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> ive removed it

Wait, shouldn't we check if we are richer on that other blockchain first before deleting it?

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Sith left us?

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Yep

<f​rog_legs:matrix.org> Anyone have experience with fioa or have a suggestion?

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