<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> Yo, if you are on X, give this a booster by retweeting far and away! x.com/XmrSigner/status/1855596340803231852

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> xcancel.com/XmrSigner/status/1855596340803231852

<c​t:xmr.mx> ty for the reminder and the xcancel link :)

<o​we_addams:matrix.org> Hi there, glad to join your community!

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Who left the door unlocked?

<m​ooshuxs:matrix.org> How does anyone find anything in matrix? I look for rooms that I know are here but don’t show up in matrix, well Element search. The only way to get new members is to leave it unlocked

<f​rgtbdfsafgr:matrix.org> anyone had any luck installing haveno in linux?

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> yeah, get it from haveno-reto.com

<m​ooshuxs:matrix.org> No

<m​ooshuxs:matrix.org> Thank you

<f​rgtbdfsafgr:matrix.org> why not use the main project, isn't reto like unofficial?

<m​ooshuxs:matrix.org> I have go back and look at those computers

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> the main project is only testnet

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> old.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/1g…o_is_live_on_mainnet_how_to_install

<f​rgtbdfsafgr:matrix.org> ok ill give it a try

<f​rgtbdfsafgr:matrix.org> thanks man

<f​rgtbdfsafgr:matrix.org> also, can you do fiat<>monero?

<m​ooshuxs:matrix.org> I think so

<m​ooshuxs:matrix.org> And it’s private! So cool

<m​ooshuxs:matrix.org> Finally real money that’s available

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> yes, that is the main point of it

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> but you need at least 0.11 xmr to be able to fund the security deposits (you get the coins back though)

<f​rgtbdfsafgr:matrix.org> hmm how does that qork

<f​rgtbdfsafgr:matrix.org> work*

<f​rgtbdfsafgr:matrix.org> what if someone scams a customer

<f​rgtbdfsafgr:matrix.org> how is the issue solved?

<f​rgtbdfsafgr:matrix.org> is there like a team dedicated to solve conflicts?

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> there is arbitration

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> blog.nowhere.moe/servers/haveno-arbitrator/index.html

<f​rgtbdfsafgr:matrix.org> nice

<f​rgtbdfsafgr:matrix.org> just read the system, seems ok.

<f​rgtbdfsafgr:matrix.org> it would also be possible to make a site in which we rate the sellers on haveno

<k​ingofsauce:matrix.org> Hey there! I wanted to let you know that I have a channel where I share some amazing Verified sauce and soft cashout methods. I also provide a Full WalkThrough to make things easier for you.
Here are some of the things you can find on my channel:

<k​ingofsauce:matrix.org> Apple Pay

<k​ingofsauce:matrix.org> Apple Product method

<k​ingofsauce:matrix.org> Airb&b

<k​ingofsauce:matrix.org> Bank logs/ bank drops

<k​ingofsauce:matrix.org> Bank open UPS

<k​ingofsauce:matrix.org> Carding

<k​ingofsauce:matrix.org> Chime transfer

<k​ingofsauce:matrix.org> Cashapp

<k​ingofsauce:matrix.org> Crypto

<k​ingofsauce:matrix.org> Clone card

<d​etherminal:monero.social> @monerobull:monero.social

<d​etherminal:monero.social> @plowsof:monero.social

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> On it

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> Holy shit haha. nioCat xcancel.com/PeterLBrandt/status/1855959617051689293

is this the price channel?

no

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> nioCat -markets isn't bridged to Matrix, it's Matrix only, or IRC only.

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> Whoever moderator redacted the message on Matrix can go fuck themselves. 😘

rotten there is off-topic :)

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> Really? :)

I look here and there's more Matrix spam heh

maybe I should finish the relay 2.0 with ability to have puppets on IRC side

DataHoarder: is it possible to make it so the bridge accepts moderations similar to chanserv?

i think the irc side is more invested in balanced moderation

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> DataHoarder double puppeting bridging is awesome.

not current one, definitely other one cornfeedhobo

yeah and it would be opt-in which shifts the IRC registration to the person in question @rottenwheel:kernal.eu :)

so that's pretty good on Libera chat eyes

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> Aye, aye.

sounds great. thank you :)

part where I left it was polishing message splitting

specially when message splitting a styled diff

i know how hard and even costly it is to run this stuff and develop it. I appreciate your hard work. thank you!

when someone edits a line in the middle of a 10-line blogpost Matrix

or when lines are merged/split into two

worst UX but best for spam, delay edits a few seconds, then "see here for edit"

current is to output diff if it's just a line or two

anyhow, not simple, as styles can change layouts wildly

case of last 1% taking 90% of the time

it's too bad more networks and clients haven't started implementing ircv3 features which would make this slightly better

yeah that bridge does proper IRCv3

some stuff is still applicable

but replies and other things are waaay nicer

I test on a network with it

libera doesn't yet due to old infra that only supports some few things, but not all the nice to have message tags, though they are working on a new backend that does it

indeed. i had hopes they would get around to it sooner, but i guess they are overloaded

these reply tags specifically looked promising, but i feel like they will never land

i think the only UI that ever implemented them was IRC Cloud

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> The beginning of the collapse for the traditional financial system has begun!

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> All hail satoshi

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Craig wright?

they are there already cornfeedhobo

works well

see, it was merged

oh, yeah i meant on libera. i know the spec was merged

that's due to backend not allowing most of the tag that are needed

i forget which server fork libera runs these days

yup

there's a new one they working on that does

solanum afaik

vs what they are working on github.com/Libera-Chat/sable

tbh the feature I lack the most is msg_id

with it I would be able to resolve netsplits properly

without it I don't care so I just make the "bot" be the authority for the view

yeah, true

tbh, who can I contact to create an appservice on monero.social (on matrix side) to do tests on this bridge? I would probably attach it first to the p2pool channels to see how it goes

current version is "workable"

i _think_ that would be rottenwheel

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> tbh i dont know exactly how IRC or matrix works, who owns it, who operates what etc etc

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> but i guess we need to define some rules to stop crazy people like this corny guy to fuck over a channel because he doesnt feeling it

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> i dont have the knowledge nor time to operate a server myself

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> i did donate to both ofrnxmr and monerobulls ccs, not diego this time because i didnt know him and also some questionable drama around missing xmrs and geonic

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> also plowsof's previous ccs too(missed this one)

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> all i want is a single person, to manage the community, if we exclude specialized servers, we only have community workgroup for important topics, research, and offtopic for anything outside of these two

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> its 3 channels overall

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> now this mf shutting down off-topic

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> who should i hold responsible?

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> or if this is not included between their responsibilities

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> lets just fund another CCS to elect a person to end this mess, organize the main channels, put a list of operators/admins or anyone with moderation power

yeah, moderation on the Matrix side has been meh

and moderation both in the "cleaning spam" and "conversation moderation" sense which always opens a can of worms

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> tbh i dont know exactly how IRC or matrix works, who owns it, who operates what etc etc

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> but i guess we need to define some rules to stop crazy people like this corny guy to fuck over a channel because he is not feeling it

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> i dont have the knowledge nor time to operate a server myself

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> i did donate to both ofrnxmr and monerobulls ccs, not diego this time because i didnt know him and also some questionable drama around missing xmrs and geonic

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> also plowsof's previous ccs too(missed this one)

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> all i want is a single person, to manage the community, if we exclude specialized servers, we only have community workgroup for important topics, research, and offtopic for anything outside of these two

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> its 3 channels overall

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> now this mf shutting down off-topic

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> who should i hold responsible?

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> dont moderate the conversation if off-topic

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> mute the person if you dont like him/her

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> where should people communicate about random things if its not off-topic

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> dont moderate the conversation in off-topic

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> mute the person if you dont like him/her

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> where should people communicate about random things if its not off-topic

moderation was deemed to be a voluntary affair / not funded by the CCS, Diego specifically removed that task(s) from his proposal for example

also worth pointing out that -offtopic has needed moderation only 3 times in the course of 10 years. it's really only when a few characters decide to make it their soap box for one conspiracy or another.

Is anything that doesn't align with a particular moderator's beliefs considered a "conspiracy theory" that should therefore be... censored?

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> then there was no reason for you to exist there

And when contested, he'd beat his chest claiming he "created!" it so he is on that big horse making unilateral decisions that deter a whole communication channel from participating in the channel?

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> he was literally taking about bitcoin being a honeypot and another guy sending evidence of side effects of vaccines

Must be clarified, kind sirs!

dukenukem: i was asked about the channel. claiming chest beating is silly.

What about the first question, your honor?

dukenukem: you can look up the logs if you feel so passionate

Anyways, you and your progressive antics gutted -markets activity, thanks for having a go at -offtopic now!

I do not need to, I was reading them as they were coming through, clown.

Smh, the dude doesn't like few lines and nukes the whole relay for the entire channel, he sees nothing wrong with that!

Must be the Moderna QR codes acting up in his bloodstream making his ability to discern between authoritarianism and common sense.

this demonstrates how it went away from discussion and people shouting their beliefs. the point of chat is to chat with others. if you belief people are mind controlled, what is the point?

believe*

-markets died because market activity is low and has been for 6 years.

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> They were chatting with each other just fine till you nuked the relay. :)

what is the point of censor a offtopic channel, because you think something is a conspiracy theorie because it doesn't fit in your world view?

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> Sure, Bethany. If that helps you sleep at night... so be it.

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> Mm? I was pinged?

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> Diego Salazar

a user that started the vaccine discussion reached the point of telling others that they would be happy to kill them and they should kill themselves. the topic reached it's logical conclusion. this is not about anyone's sensibilities

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> <c​ornfeedhobo> does anyone know where this matterbridge relay came from? I'm getting close to getting rid of it. all the spam comes from there becaues they lack moderation.

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> <J​uliu> What spam?

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> <c​ornfeedhobo> it sucks that monero channels are boring an quiet, but that's better than being seen as a place for people to share their crazy ideas

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> <J​uliu> Stop calling mRNA shit a vaccine. It's not a vaccine. It killed millions and works completely differently

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> <c​ornfeedhobo> Juliu: again, please don't make me mute you. your opinion has been heard :)

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> <c​ornfeedhobo> Juliu: last time was one hour. this time it will be one day. i hope you calm down :)

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> ofc its going to die if you prefer a dead channel and mute people left and right

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> 😂😂😂

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> He already said he prefers dead over conspiracy theories!

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> Is...matterbridge still running?

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> what is matterbridge

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> I think hobo is referring to m-relay...

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> Certainly not a bridge!

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> he wasnt the initiator of that topic someone else said that in the middle of the discussion

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> 🌉

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> A bridge to the mattermost instance we were running once upon a time.

^

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> I thought we spun that down?

afaik that was, but the m-relay remains as the bridge to matrix, because libera shut it down after spam that couldn't be moderated (kinda like this)

so opinions you dislike are spam cornfeedhobo?

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> you sound like you were getting suppressed by users and forced to read every single line

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> bro, i didnt saw you since i joined matrix server 6 month ago

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> you literally came yesterday and suddenly started muting people

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> you are not even chatting with people there

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> Damn new brats don't know the grandpappys of Monero

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> Cornfeedhobo let's get you to bed gramps

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> .

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Thank you real_glitch, please read my dictatorial, bloodthirsty CoC proposal and approve it if you, well... approve it: monero-project/meta #991

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> Core team has Libera given rights to all #monero- and ##monero- rooms

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> Meaning anyone can make the rooms and be "mods", but if a core team member emails the libera staff they will override the mods and can institute core as the top level mods.

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> Matrix is hosted by core on their server infrastructure. Cypher Stack's Dan Miller does the upkeep and maintenance.

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> Libera Chat is not the only IRC network btw. only libera has reserved the namespace for core.

All that explanation is awfully boring. I was interested in hearing more about the #-off-topic drama, to be honest

<s​nowman:tetaneutral.net> Just start your own Monero core

IRC missed an entire 55 minutes of it.. it was wild, ground breaking even

P vs NP will have to wait until tomorrow to be solved

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> rottenwheel: i thought you were on a strike because of corny guys injustice

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> rottenwheel: i thought you were on a strike because of corny guy's injustice

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> real_glitch no haha. I don't care much about that... My room was glitchy, had no profile picture, no title (there were members' usernames instead) and I couldn't add reactions to messages. Leaving and rejoining fixed it.

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> well its not bad overall but it doesnt have any clear line

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> like

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> what is considered spam? corny muting everyone he doesnt like as a spammer

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> same with being offensive, people will not shy over their belief in a community of "paranoid anarchists" and again managers can make biased judgements

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> in my opinion if user is not repeating obvious spams like sending random pictures, or corn videos or 100 copy pasted messages at the same time

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> mods shouldn't tackle it

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> just put a sign up there that this channel is +18 for not getting prosecuted, no minors

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> then, adults should use that "MUTE" option more often, you dont like the guy, the crazy guy will get isolated or will behave to some extent to make it possible to communicate with or, leave the chat

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> instead of playing the role of a teacher in a school, just stop the obvious trolls, bots and random ass crazy mods, that should be good

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> and yeah, no limitations on possible topics of offtopic channel

I left the room before, because censoring a offtopic room because of topic is off topic is insane for me, unfortunately can't follow anymore, just wanted to throw this here before I'm again afk. Any other room, well, whatever, but offtopic, it's insane to me.

Cornfeed needs to be de-opped, period

Muted the entire bridge because he didnt like the conversation. A convo was that neither demeaning, insultingc

And when i say de-opped, he;ls

He's not opped in the room. He has more power than a regular op. I assume he has ops in all #monero rooms, which is fuckin insane.

Only sane core team members should have such power, and they should remain impartial. Muting and entire bridge bcuz you have 9 jabs, is a you problem. Mute it for yourself. Playing hero and muting it for all irc just shows that youre not cut out for the internet, especially not an offtopic channel

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> I did this like 11 months ago, but ppl who have power wont step down, and ppl who can make them are too gentle to do so ++ everybody is afraid of letting me handle biz myself

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> This = wrote a list of changes to moderators and admins for each room from whatever nonsense we have now to stuff that actually makes sense

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> (did this before i was banned btw)

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> i guess we need to put this on agenda and conclude it once and for all

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> they wont step down

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> but yeah, putting on agenda and proving a point would be a step in the right direction

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> just make another one if its impossible to kick them out and start fresh

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> better then getting nuked every once and a while

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> ofc after reaching a consensus with the community

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Need to debridge from matrix.org if we do that

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> #monero:matrix.org and #monero:monero.social is taken, for example.

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> ofrnxmr: btw do we have any doc or section to explain how someone can become part of the core team, their responsibility, name/username of every single one of them, and in what condition they will be removed/retire from the core

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Invite-only

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> And core leaves whenever they feel like it, and often they dont tell anyone when they do

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Core today is essentially luigi and binary

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> its like you throw a dice and every 1 out 3 is part of the core, or mod or operator or someone with some weird authority

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Articmine is also core, but he doesnt get involved in the steering of monero

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> so

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> luigi, binary, arcticmine for core

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> your, monerobull, plowsof, diego with moderation for now?

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> so

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> luigi, binary, arcticmine for core

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> you, monerobull, plowsof, diego with moderation for now?

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> i send you a pic in dm of my old list

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> There are some holes there

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> It is an invite-only workgroup.

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> You'd have to be invited by one of the current Core team members.

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> Lol, ofrn moderator? 🤣

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> i though he can use banhammer?

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> i thought he can use banhammer?

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> rotten laughs, but he's in multiple rooms that i moderate

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Nope. I just msg ppl who can

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> I don't think so, but I'm not in that ACL or group, so who knows. Regardless, that's the last guy who should wield a hammer in here, for many reasons... 😂😂😂

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> i was banhammer banned for 7 months, remember

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> well he didnt ban anyone for now

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> idk if thats a compliment for a mod though😄

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> I'd find it short of retarded if they really allowed him in there.

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> Not surprised, but quite mentally handicapped. That's like handing some scissors to a wild monkey.

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> btw, is diego part of the core right now?

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> No

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Never was

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> real_glitch he never was, not right now, no.

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> He was an assistance, office boy of sorts for a while, until certain moron decided to record a group call without anyone's consent and go on a crusade against him.

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Again, this guy speaks in echo chambers is just mad that i speak facts about his character and ive never banned him anywhere

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> He was an assistant, office boy of sorts for a while, until certain moron decided to record a group call without anyone's consent and go on a crusade against him.

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> updated one for now:

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> core

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> luigi, binary, arcticmine

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> mods/admins:

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> plowsof, ofrnxmr, monerobull, selsta, ajs, comradeblin, recannmann, mumucks, chartuo, xmrscott, sgp, rucknium, diego

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> He's, for example, in my 1100 user simplex group

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Remove scott sgp and erciccione

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> updated one for now:

mod of what?

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> core

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> luigi, binary, arcticmine

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> mods/admins:

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> plowsof, ofrnxmr, monerobull, selsta, ajs, comradeblin, recannmann, mumucks, chartuo, rucknium, diego

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Scott admins every room and is worse than cornfeed

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> sgp and ericcione bith stepped down

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> Lmfao, where the heck did you pull recanman as admin/moderator from?

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> Right, lol, selsta?

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> selsta - dev, gui, mrl,

@ ROOM

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> Rucknium? 🤔

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> You high bruv.

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> we ridicule zcash for having a foundation behind them

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> few more people and we can establish a monero foundation

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Rotten is an idiot, ruck was mod of monero-beef and shoukd be admin in mrl

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Not scott and charuto

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> so charuto is out too?

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Ruck left mod of beef bcuz scott kept reversing his decisions

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> updated one for now:

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> core

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> luigi, binary, arcticmine

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> mods/admins:

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> plowsof, ofrnxmr, monerobull, selsta, ajs, comradeblin, recannmann, mumucks, chartuo, diego

editing spams irc

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Only some rooms. Charuto Still admin of pt and mod in banhammer

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> is recannmann still active as a mod/admin?

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> recanman: are you mod in events?

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> and its my first time hearing this name "mumucks"

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> is he active on the hardware side or something?

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Mumucks owns the banhammer iirc

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> He's admin in markets atm

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> so what about that corny guy

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Hes trash

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> He has super ops on irc for some reason, and i bet he wont de-op himself

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> updated one for now:

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> core

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> luigi, binary, arcticmine

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> mods/admins:

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> plowsof, ofrnxmr, monerobull, selsta, ajs, comradeblin, recannmann, mumucks, chartuo, diego, cornyguy

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> He'd rather play hero and mute the entire bridge in off-topic

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> i though we agreed on demoting everyone below diego's authority to give him enough power to co-lead the mod team

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> When was he a mod admin to begin with? Where? Are you drunk?

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> Markets room, along with charuto.

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> see ^ rotten lives in an echo chamber

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> ofc excluding the core

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Keeps repeating everything 5 mins late

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Diego "owns" moderation by way of employing the server admin for monero.social

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> He, without being opped, can demote monero.social admins and even delete rooms

someone correct me if i'm wrong, but afaik, irc is the "home" of the project and has support from libera to do so. i think any other places are community driven.

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> De-op cornfeed

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> the project is community driven - there's your correction.

sounds like you should make a safe space for yourself :)

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> A lot of the most active devs today are on matrix

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> look who is talking about safe space for fucks sake

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Speak for yourself pls.

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> I dont mute bridges when i disagree

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Literally turned off 10 ppl bcuz he needed to hear himself breathe

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> And flipped the switch to protect all 20 of the irc users from matrix. Such a hero

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> comradeblin: are you still mod in events?

<c​omradeblin:matrix.org> I am, but my mod role got revoked for some reason :D

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Monero.social breakage probably

<c​omradeblin:matrix.org> nope. MoneroKon is matrix.org

if monero.social is where the active devs are, why is irc important?

were you silenced on matrix?

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Only?

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> dude literally rose up from his grave after few years to nuke the channel in a day and get back to his old ass bed

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> I have an irc acct too. And ppl like niocat and my irc account were subject to your pathetic bs

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> we have dev channel for devs

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> whats the point of offtopic if you are going to mute it because devs are not active there

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> devs like to go offtopic too

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Niocat, and a few others, dont use matrix. If they dont like the matrix chatter, they can mute the bridge themselves

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> even luigi was against adding _any_ ops to offtopic

I was laughing at the clueless chatter :D

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> :D see? Niocat likes his popcorn time

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Meanwhile, cornfeed does does nothing to control the wildly offtopic mining channel, monero-pools

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> which is advertised on getmonero as a place to find help with mining

1) not my channel, 2) off topic doesn't mean it has to be hostile. popcorn time is one thing. shouting into the void is another.

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> I understand muting the bridge if we were breaking libera rules, but we werent. Pooks breaks them constantly

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Off topic isnt your channel either

you did break libera rules and i did have a conversation with libera already

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> The monero-* namespace is owned by core. Bounce

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> b b b b ounce

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Nobody wants you moderating / owning offtopic. Leave pls

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Markets too

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> and any other room you claim to own or be an op in. Step down please and thanks

ofrn, I think you made your point

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Point didnt get across til he steps down

that's the problem. you really don't stop. there is no room for disagreement. you berate as if your opinion is holy. this leaves only one option, moderation.

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Reported me to libera? Please tell us what you reported

I think the word you are looking for is result

yes, thank you

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> yeah, moderate yourself and demote. Thanks

<c​larck__amberson:matrix.org> How did you become a mod?

<c​larck__amberson:matrix.org> Who made you one?

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> you claim that i think my opinion us holy, yet you enforced your opinion on the entire irc room by muting the bridge

no, i enforced behavior

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Dont project your bs onto me

you don't know how to stop acting like a kid throwing a tantrum

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> There are numerous people here who agree that you crossed the line

<c​larck__amberson:matrix.org> Yo ofrnxmr its been a while

<c​larck__amberson:matrix.org> He made this dude a mod?

<c​larck__amberson:matrix.org> Can we hold that guy responsible for this dude's actions?

<c​larck__amberson:matrix.org> > <@ofrnxmr:monero.social> There are numerous people here who agree that you crossed the line

<c​larck__amberson:matrix.org> Who made this dude a mod?

<c​larck__amberson:matrix.org> Can we hold that guy responsible for this dude's actions?

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Claiming that its my opinion. My "opinion" was shared by numerous people before during and after you muting the bridge

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> People who i disagree with on a daily basis, one of them has all of my accounts muted. Youre the outlier here, enforcing your opinion on others

> all of my accounts muted ... you have multiple accounts?

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> I get that you enjoyed your little power trip, and like to call yourself the owner of the channel. This is a community project, and core owns the namespace. Youre just some guy who wanted is 45 seconds to feel important.

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Yes i have multiple accounts

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> 2 matrix and 1 irc

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Is that a problem? Need to go report me to libera for having more than 1 account?

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> If it helps, maybe i have 3 libera accounts. Am i breaking rules yet?

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