<daywei:matrix.org> I am a Monero community user from China. I have great trust and respect for the Monero community, but the difficulty of purchasing and storing Monero in China is too high. I don't trust centralized exchanges like Binance, as they often embezzle users' assets. Could our Monero community develop or update a wallet that is easier [... too long, see mrelay.p2pool.observer/e/p-2UwoMLZXJ2NzZZ ]

<daywei:matrix.org> Please do not overlook the Chinese market and Chinese users. We are also fighting for privacy and freedom. In the Monero community, we are compatriots in a free land

<gug68hes:matrix.org> 666

<gug68hes:matrix.org> How did Monero surge to over $800 in January of this year?

<neptunian:unredacted.org> @gug68hes:matrix.org: Big theft.

<neptunian:unredacted.org> @daywei:matrix.org: I appreciate the concern. What's wrong with 'Cake Wallet' or the Monero wallets they offer on getmonero.org?

<neptunian:unredacted.org> Are they blocked by Chinese ISPs?

<jpk68:matrix.org> You can also try atomic swaps on Eigenwallet or something

<neptunian:unredacted.org> Cake and such for storing, that is. If you are able to buy Bitcoin or something similar, there are a myriad of swap services for XMR.

<daywei:matrix.org> @neptunian:unredacted.org: Yes, it is blocked by China's local area network, which prevents many domestic users from purchasing and storing it. Here, only Tp wallet can be used, but it does not support us to purchase Monero. Moreover, they are a dictatorship, and our user rights are not guaranteed at all. I hope the commun [... too long, see mrelay.p2pool.observer/e/jqHiwoMLNTFUOVI4 ]

<neptunian:unredacted.org> @daywei:matrix.org: Does torrenting, onion services, or P2P file transfer work?

<neptunian:unredacted.org> monerotoruzizulg5ttgat2emf4d6fbmiea…etrmmy7erypseyteyd.onion/index.html

<neptunian:unredacted.org> The getmonero.org onion service.

<daywei:matrix.org> I would exchange. A small number of users and I use cake, but in our country, VPN usage is not allowed, and VPNs carry too much risk. Many users want to purchase them, but are blocked. I don't understand why TP wallet can be used without VPN, making it a dictator in our region

<neptunian:unredacted.org> @daywei:matrix.org: So Tor isn't possible?

<daywei:matrix.org> yes

<daywei:matrix.org> Neither.

<daywei:matrix.org> It's too bad that we even took legal risks when buying Monroe coins.

<neptunian:unredacted.org> If you have Cake, that can work. I'm unaware of the risks associated with usage of VPNs or the Tor network. If we exclude those, things such as Bisq, THORChain (soon), and atomic swaps (like Eigenwallet) work as decentralised options. For centralised exchanges that I've seen many people trust, HoudiniSwap, ChangeNow, and SimpleSwap seem to be relatively fine.

<daywei:matrix.org> Using VPN here is not allowed, and neither is using Tor. However, if we want to use Cake, we must purchase a VPN to access it. But using VPN brings legal risks and network latency

<neptunian:unredacted.org> @daywei:matrix.org: If you have to use a VPN, I'd recommend Mullvad.

<daywei:matrix.org> Hey, brother, what I want to express is that even if Monero is being suppressed, it can still have more liquidity. It's just that most users are blocked. Also, when you've lived here since childhood, you'll understand that Monero has entered my life like God. The place where we grew up may be very safe and happy, but what we l [... too long, see mrelay.p2pool.observer/e/tqrGw4MLaUJtX2pq ]

<neptunian:unredacted.org> So what would you want happening with XMR?

<daywei:matrix.org> This is very painful. I can't even voice my opinions because on the internet, when you harshly criticize corrupt bureaucrats, the messages you send will be blocked. Worse still, the police might come looking for you. I don't know if what I'm saying now is being monitored, but the reality is just so bad. I hope Monero is not ju [... too long, see mrelay.p2pool.observer/e/s9bWw4MLQWlkQ1Uw ]

<daywei:matrix.org> It's now known to too few people, just like Bitcoin was back then. When it was more prosperous, more people would come to build for it, creating more ecosystems. I've never seen it as a token. It's more like a symbol of freedom. Brother, you don't live in my country. You can't imagine walking down the street in this society as a naked body

<daywei:matrix.org> There should still be Chinese people on this channel. I don't know if they will accuse me of being unpatriotic, but I really hope our lives can become better, rather than living in fear and accusing government officials of inaction. When we have this right to privacy, we should all bravely speak out and say, "What you are doin [... too long, see mrelay.p2pool.observer/e/n7mAxIMLeVZwT293 ]

<njnini1k:matrix.org> Made me even love China more

<njnini1k:matrix.org> China being the greatest country in the world today probably already have their own version of Monero 🤣

<siren:kernal.eu> Glory to CCP. What's their own version of Monero? WeChat?

<agorise:matrix.org> > <@daywei:matrix.org> It's now known to too few people, just like Bitcoin was back then. When it was more prosperous, more people would come to build for it, creating more ecosystems. I've never seen it as a token. It's more like a symbol of freedom. Brother, you don't live in my country. You can't imagine walking down the street in this society as a naked body

<agorise:matrix.org> hold local meetups like i do every week, ie:

<agorise:matrix.org> beblurt.com/@kencode/crypto-meetup-tues-may-pm-eng-esp-1778792476308

<agorise:matrix.org>

<agorise:matrix.org> monero is the way. i share monero with people all the time and here in mexico, people care a LOT about their privacy. so, it's the best way I have found to spread the word. all we're doing is having crypto meetups, but you can call your meetups whatever you like. privacy meetups, or digital lifestyle meetups, or whatever. hang [... too long, see mrelay.p2pool.observer/e/k9j61oMLWVBNa2pB ]

<njnini1k:matrix.org> @siren:kernal.eu: CCP is far ahead of the Epstein regime. You should know better

<njnini1k:matrix.org> mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/matrix.org/qgnpbwHCTNhjTFcjbHUMJxor.png (Screenshot 2026-05-16 at 8.22.57 AM.png)

<agorise:matrix.org> > <@daywei:matrix.org> There should still be Chinese people on this channel. I don't know if they will accuse me of being unpatriotic, but I really hope our lives can become better, rather than living in fear and accusing government officials of inaction. When we have this right to privacy, we should all bravely speak out [... too long, see mrelay.p2pool.observer/e/uoWL14MLSnlYYnJ4 ]

<agorise:matrix.org> RE: "we should all bravely speak out and say, "What you are doing is wrong," instead of being afraid"

<agorise:matrix.org> No need to fight the beast, or beg him to loosen your shackles. Render him obsolete. Do your best to stop using his construct completely (food, water, energy, currency). Use real, fungible money. Obviously XMR, but I like to barter as well, which helps others see how easy XMR is to use. I buy fruit trees and stuff with monero and then show them how to convert it to fiat when absolutely necessary.

njnini1k this is offtopic

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Community meeting in 35mins: monero-project/meta #1391

fresh snapshots of ideas using the internet archive and curl have been made

Meeting time: monero-project/meta #1391

Hello.

Saluton.

hi

<redsh4de:matrix.org> hi

<user2570:unredacted.org> hi

[CCS Proposals] SyntheticBird closed merge request #644: SyntheticBird Site and CCS UI/UX, Transitions & Animations work (4 months) repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/644

<agorise:matrix.org> hola :)

3. Community highlights

Bisq exploited, thorchain exploited, wagyu promoting themselves as decentralized

<jpk68:matrix.org> Hello

Allegedly wagyu was used at tge entrypoint for the thorchain exploit

<user2570:unredacted.org> Can somone share the link with logs of last meeting?

<jbabb:cypherstack.com> wagyu praised as the only decentralized swap protocol capable of pausing

new release or monero core getmonero.org/2026/05/11/monero-0.18.5.0-released.html or (beta site too beta.monerodevs.org/blog/2026/05/11/monero-GUI-0.18.5.0-released)

of*

prev meeting begins here libera.monerologs.net/monero-community/20260502#c672077

<syntheticbird> Did I just closed my CCS proposal in the middle of a meeting ?

User2570 libera.monerologs.net/monero-community/20260502#c672077 << the logs are there but not yet posted on the issue

<syntheticbird> lol forgot there was meeting today.

"wagyu praised as the only decentralized swap protocol capable of pausing" << bisq also paused the ability to trade

<redsh4de:matrix.org> been there

And thorchain halted as well

<r4v3r23> hello

We had a nasty netsplit on beta stressnet due to an issue with stressnet-specific tweak to scaling parameters

<ofrnxmr> basicswap and retoswap remain fully functional. Can see some rates across dexes at monero-orderbooks.com

<ofrnxmr> #moneroswap:matrix.org also still in testing

news - [Revuo Monero](revuo-xmr.com) - [This week in Monero TWIM](cyphergoat.com/this-week-in-monero)

Anyone have any highlights theyd like to share before moving on to the CCS proposals?

<ofrnxmr> Oh, i also want to mention that basicswap supports electrum wallets for btc and ltc now (so you dont have to sync those blockchains anymore)

4. CCS proposals

a. [MRL] Dennis Trautwein - [ProbeLab P2P Network Metrics Proposal](repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/667)

M1 was largely nacked, but MRL wants community feedback on M2, so please review and comment on the proposal when you have time. You can also leave feedback in the MRL or MRL lounge channels

b. Marko Pohlo - [Cuprate Consensus-Rule Differential Fuzzing](repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/676)

this is a new proposal, not yet shown on the ideas page (due to issues with the markdown file)

cc boog900 & syntheticbird. Could definitely use feedback from the cuprate team

MarkoPohlo isnt in this room on irc

c. mondetta - [monero.eco 2025-2026 compensation](repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/660)

<syntheticbird> wait

ok

i think this "an exploratory 1 month-only deliverable to at least get structured cargo-fuzz targets over consensus rules wired into CI (plus the beginning of a grammar that's reusable for FCMP++ when that lands)." as he mentioned in the prev cuprate meeting.

funding for fuzzing on monero core seems to have stalled donate.magicgrants.org/monero/projects/fuzzing-monero-2

<syntheticbird> They have discussed several times with us and in two cuprate meetings so you can find boog900 opinion there. I haven't expressed a lot but right now personally I'm fine with the approach, but I think there is room for mistakes. So for me the quality and soudness of this CCS proposal is entirely based on Runtime Verification team.

<syntheticbird> They have already listed prior work, I think it will be fine, but I keep a little worry because its currently so tricky.

would be good (for the record) if boog can restate his opinions (or link to logs) in a gitlab comment

<user2570:unredacted.org> ofrnxmr: I will report in a moment

prev cuprate meeting here monero-project/meta #1383 for the logs

also monero-project/meta #1379

Ok, we'll move on for now and get back to mondetta at the end

d. ashishb1052002 - [AirGap wallet - integrate Monero](repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/672)

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> I thumb'd down afrer they doubled the rates after they were asked to use URQR (compliant with cupcake, anonero, feather)

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/c…9db4d72f21debf5365084b375b9f146c94c

R4v3r, myself and plowsof are the only ones to leave any feedback. Anyone else have an opinion?

—

Merge, close, more time, abstain?

<r4v3r23> @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: this can be done via bounties

<r4v3r23> nobodys asked for airigap support this entire time

That might be a good idea

<r4v3r23> anonero can handle it via bounty after the continued dev ccs

<r4v3r23> this proposal is sus af, so much chatgpt

Next up, we have the pioneer lf the URQR air gapped flow: anonero

e. r4v3r23 - [ANONERO Continued development](repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/671)

<r4v3r23> guaranteed 20 hours a week, so this CCS will be 6 months max

<r4v3r23> ideally aiming for 4

<jpk68:matrix.org> The AirGap thing is clearly prompted and a cash grab. There's no reason we should be funding this; obvious NACK

The most eggregious is the doubling of requested funds 3.5mins after asking them tk be compliant

<redsh4de:matrix.org> yh not a good look at all

They didnt even take any time to looi into workload before hiking the rates

<r4v3r23> ofrnxmr: obvious scam. anonero will offer to do it for original price just to get this proposal closed

<r4v3r23> or setup a bounty and just leave it at that

<ofrnxmr> Id prefer it not be done at all, atp. Been a long time since i looked into the wallet (mayne 3 or 4 years), but it wasnt "good" then

<ofrnxmr> Anyway. Anonero

<user2570:unredacted.org> ofrnxmr: I haven't checked anonero proposal, had no time

<r4v3r23> ^^^ > <@r4v3r23> guaranteed 20 hours a week, so this CCS will be 6 months max

prev. anonero update mentions a new dev repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/c…als/-/merge_requests/447#note_36071

<r4v3r23> whos been doing great work for the past couple of months, all the latest commits under ANONERO are by them

<ofrnxmr> Im probably a +1 on anonero. The prior ccs was successful (and had a new dev for it). Need to relook over the milestones etc. R4v3r is the git still at the same place?

<r4v3r23> same yes git.anonero.io

the prior ccs is the same dev ofrnxmr?

<ofrnxmr> No, but was a new dev at the time

<r4v3r23> prior dev was unreliable and disappeared for months at a time

<r4v3r23> @ofrnxmr: correct

or the new dev on a ccs set a good example?

<r4v3r23> and new dev was able to identify and fix lingering bugs that prev dev couldnt

<r4v3r23> plowsof: its not a new project

<r4v3r23> and that means that no one new can ever open a ccs

how old is the new dev again, you mention months now

does the new dev have direct push rights to the repo? who reviews their work? what team remains?

<r4v3r23> in contact since the start of new year

<r4v3r23> plowsof: code is owned by anonero and published as patches under project name

they have been given access to the projects account?

<r4v3r23> anonero was always a one dev project

<r4v3r23> plowsof: no

<r4v3r23> they provided patches which are applied

<r4v3r23> anyway this is really nitpicking

<r4v3r23> their work is solid and reliability/speed is refreshing, plans are solid and ready to be put into action

<jpk68:matrix.org> @ofrnxmr: Same, +1

Moving on

f. redsh4de - [CCS Frontend Redesign](repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/641)

This was update to be frontend-only, focused on bringing styling in line with the new getmonero redesign (beta.monerodevs.org)

<redsh4de:matrix.org> removed backend and adjusted sum accordingly after Core feedback

what files will the front end read from the legacy backend

<redsh4de:matrix.org> the json files like the current one, i hope we would be able to add some of the UX improvements later on after the base is done - but for MVP i aim to make it 1:1

which ones?

<redsh4de:matrix.org> dont remember the full URL as i havent worked on this for a bit, but there was proposals.json off the top of my head

where will the front end run?

relative to the back end + gitlab

<redsh4de:matrix.org> probably will host on vercel to start with like i did the beta site

the front end is astro npm 800 deps and will be running live

how will production look like? you mention securiyt improvements in your proposal

There are 800 NPM dependencies?

That's impossible.

On beta getmonero site, there are a lot

<redsh4de:matrix.org> plowsof: for production, a static page rebuild every X minutes, i dont think hosting a SSR page is acceptable. if possible id prefer to trigger rebuilds via webhook whenever merge requests are updated, otherwise just a cronjob

for the beta site - we can push a static zip with "deterministic" (best effort) hash monero-project/monero-site #2654

<redsh4de:matrix.org> msvb-lab: not THAT much but yeah

npm is less of a concern on new getmonero for that reason, just food for thought

github.com/monero-project/monero-site/blob/beta/pnpm-lock.yaml < msvb

Running out of time, we can continue after the hour

h. jberman - [full-time development (4 months)](repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/674)

I think this is just waiting on merge?

(it was brand new last time)

the current front end of site is not a static site and updated via cron, and depending on deployment would be tied to the same drive as the back end (unless some networked push / rsync is set up) -

so its not a huge regression. just wondering about security

<redsh4de:matrix.org> well, for supply chain attacks i think we can definitely pin dependencies in order to avoid the recent messes we saw in the npm eco

updated via cron / --tx-notify*

<redsh4de:matrix.org> if we use the latest pnpm for example, that also has some quarantine feature to avoid against that. Dockerizing builds like we do on monero-site-beta, there are a good amount of layers we can do

<syntheticbird> In latest fireship video (basically the bible for js devs) he show a feature of pnpm that enable minimum age of release before updating.

<redsh4de:matrix.org> yep, i dont remember the flag name but it sets it by default to 1440

the front end should be running its own monero-wallet-rpc as a best effort to guard against the "back end" being backdoored . ensure each wallet in the json file belongs to the ccs wallet. afaict this is not implemented but is a simple addition and a +

rsync (or what ever flavour of the month network pushing is secure) would update json files on disk

a file watch thing can detect updates* sorry for going over on this

or the front ends own monero-wallet-rpc can run a --tx-notify to refresh the fr page , or are we pretending that the front end isnt a back end and will cahrge more moneys :D

jbermans waiting for merge yes

redshade if yo ucould consider my points and leave a comment or an update that would be great

<redsh4de:matrix.org> > <plowsof> the front end should be running its own monero-wallet-rpc as a best effort to guard against the "back end" being backdoored . ensure each wallet in the json file belongs to the ccs wallet. afaict this is not implemented but is a simple addition and a +

<redsh4de:matrix.org> yeah i think that should be doable, but i guess if the frontend would be running something, it would have to be server-side rendered and cant be static anymore :P

<redsh4de:matrix.org> but it would give us a lot more flexibility if its SSR and there wont be an issue with it

<redsh4de:matrix.org> for sure, will dive back into the CCS page over the next week

i. [MRL] CjS77 - [Grease Payment Channels -- production implementation and SDK](repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/651)

Plowsof, i wasnt paying attn to the mrl discussions about this. Just noticed that it isnt on agenda anymore

Is this a close / revisit in the future?

MRL not pushing for this to be merged at this time

Thanks

And user2570, are you ready now?

Ok, we can end the meeting here

Next meeting here in 2 weeks - Saturday May 30, 2026, 1600 UTC

Thanks everyone

<jpk68:matrix.org> Thanks

<redsh4de:matrix.org> thank you

<user2570:unredacted.org> hey

<user2570:unredacted.org> yes

<user2570:unredacted.org> I am here

<user2570:unredacted.org> here is the report sorry for the delay

<user2570:unredacted.org> ofrnxmr Please postpone monero.eco CCS proposal discussion again.

<user2570:unredacted.org> Unfortunately I had no time time to properly correct my monero.eco CCS propsal again.

<user2570:unredacted.org> Last I wanted to prioritize following things:[... more lines follow, see mrelay.p2pool.observer/e/4I2U2oMLd1E1WUxp ]

r4v3r23 is the 6 or 4 months estimation in the proposal text currently?

<r4v3r23> plowsof: its not, add it in title or body

<r4v3r23> what kind of wording do you suggest

Good meeting, dankon and see you next time.

"* Waiting for plowsof to evaluate two logo proposals, which have been independently approved by 5 MDC Designers. Detailed explanation of design choices can be provided if needed." im not a logo evaluator

<user2570:unredacted.org> plowsof: Well, who should I contatct for approval?

you mentioned them being gifts so or are they part of your proposal

<user2570:unredacted.org> plowsof: I assumed you needed more time because busy with repo.getmonero.org .

<user2570:unredacted.org> plowsof: No these two are exclusive gifts to prove my motivation and priority

the new bounties website logo could be a theif carrying a sack on his shoulder with LLM tokens falling out of it

reg the ccs logo, i thought the lightbulb @ ccs.getmonero.org was the "new" one? the piggy does seem more fitting to the general fund rather than a CCS where funds are flowing in as fast as they are flowing out ideally as projects complete

proposals can be updated on gitlab at any time and feedback can be requested here / anywhere alos

also*

<user2570:unredacted.org> I personaly and other designers had no such associations / concerns. Otherwise these concerns would be stated in logo discussions. The bag of coins / money / funds is a popular symbol associated ith Bounties. > <plowsof> the new bounties website logo could be a theif carrying a sack on his shoulder with LLM tokens falling out of it

<user2570:unredacted.org> Yes the lightbulb is the new and most voted (5 votes) for CCS

hbs is this hallucinated athanorlabs/atomic-swap #514

user2570 sorry, ignore my feedback. i will not speak on logos again, thanks.

<hbs:matrix.org> plowsof: Well how would I know?

start a ccs for hundreads of thousands for audits like i predicted

<hbs:matrix.org> plowsof: I am confused, do you think this issue was open on the code I wrote?

<user2570:unredacted.org> Can you please guide me how to proceed with these 2 logo proposals. > <plowsof> proposals can be updated on gitlab at any time and feedback can be requested here / anywhere alos

<user2570:unredacted.org> Should I create a merge request somewhere?

<user2570:unredacted.org> Should I contact someone else?

hundreds* eh

hbs what was the issue that was found or have details not been released

<hbs:matrix.org> plowsof: The issue I found in that implementation was related to EIP-7702, I guess GPT-5.5 still needs to work :-)

<hbs:matrix.org> I reported it to dimalinux but haven't heard back

abandoned protocol?

<that-guy123:fedora.im> I still need to look at those pieces from that one thing, my b

<hbs:matrix.org> plowsof: That would be my guess, the project is marked as in maintenance mode on github, and there were no recent swaps

<hbs:matrix.org> @hbs:matrix.org: Even though some website (scammy?) advertised they use that protocol -> atomicmonero.com (doesn't seem up anymore)

<that-guy123:fedora.im> On a real note should some one local host the docs website?

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> ?

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> stefan

<that-guy123:fedora.im> We were discussing this yesterday?

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> What

<that-guy123:fedora.im> The github problem. Is this innapropriate timing?

<that-guy123:fedora.im> Ofr

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> @that-guy123:fedora.im: No

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> What github problem?

<plowsof:matrix.org> #monero-docs:monero.social ? unable to run it locally?

<that-guy123:fedora.im> People were saying they were having problems and someone got removed

<that-guy123:fedora.im> Ill do it rn

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Jpk's fhe only one to get removed, but there have been a few ppl who were shadowbanned & unable to have their comments or issues visible on their new accounts

<that-guy123:fedora.im> Just wondering, its just a group chat. No probs/worries

<plowsof:matrix.org> oh sorry

<that-guy123:fedora.im> Yes shadow banned. If they are legit with the group that unnacceptable. U know?

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> jpk wasnt shadowbanned

<that-guy123:fedora.im> Well just future things to think about ig

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Jpk was nuked

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Shadowbans seem to happen to brand new accounts and be temporary

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Still not sure what this has to do with docs or running sonething locally

<that-guy123:fedora.im> @plowsof:matrix.org what do u think

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Dogs isny deployed by github pages etc

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Docs*

<plowsof:matrix.org> i think CoC (docs)

<plowsof:matrix.org> 😅

<that-guy123:fedora.im> Ok thx, What else whould we talk about

<jpk68:matrix.org> I can't understand any of the last 10 messages, but yes, I was nuked

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> oh

<that-guy123:fedora.im> Jpk?

<jpk68:matrix.org> That's me

<that-guy123:fedora.im> Nuked?

<jpk68:matrix.org> Yes

<jpk68:matrix.org> Lmao?

<that-guy123:fedora.im> Now whats that mean

<that-guy123:fedora.im> Lol i need assistance

<that-guy123:fedora.im> Dont get it

<jpk68:matrix.org> I pulled a Mr. Robot and nuked my laptop in the microwave. Now my login creds for GH are gone. Sad!

<jpk68:matrix.org> Joking. They just removed my account

<that-guy123:fedora.im> Ohhhhh

<that-guy123:fedora.im> That was u

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> the discussion about that ended with, essentially, saying do what you want, but were not moving off from github

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> So if you want to setup a forgejo, mirror the repo, and have a bot send prs on your behalf, go for it

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> if you want to host the repo, mirror all issues and pull requests, setup and maintain ci for all archs, etc, go for it.

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> But we're not switching from github until/unless someone proves it viable

<jpk68:matrix.org> There are still traces of it, though... if you look at the Monero repo's contribution stats, my profile picture still appears on the graph

<plowsof:matrix.org> be the change you want to see in the world. in the meantime be a burden

<that-guy123:fedora.im> Ofr yes

<r4v3r23> added "Update: Guaranteed 20 hours per week. CCS will be completed within 6 months (25 weeks) of merge." to CCS proposal

<that-guy123:fedora.im> Obv

<that-guy123:fedora.im> Ok

<that-guy123:fedora.im> Ill try

<that-guy123:fedora.im> Ty

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> You'll still need a github account to setup some bot that will mirror PRs

<that-guy123:fedora.im> Unfortaneately i got 1

<plowsof:matrix.org> aka just make an account 😂

<that-guy123:fedora.im> Lol

<that-guy123:fedora.im> U guys name it

<daywei:matrix.org> @agorise:matrix.org: I'm also considering doing this: establishing an offline Monero community in China, holding gatherings. I've been thinking about how to organize them and bring more people in, whether it's to increase mobility or to let more people know

<r4v3r23> @that-guy123:fedora.im: notplowsof

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> @daywei:matrix.org: Shoukd collab eith @pyxmr2025:mozilla.org

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Should collaborate with **

<daywei:matrix.org> @agorise:matrix.org: One way to increase liquidity or make it widely known is through marketing, relying on community cohesion. One of the BTC whales is called Baoyanye. He once established a BTC community in China and gave nationwide lectures on BTC's white paper, making BTC widely known in China. As a result, BTC gained significant liquidity in China

<agorise:matrix.org> @daywei:matrix.org: dm me please, not in this chatroom

<daywei:matrix.org> @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: Is he also in China?

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Yes

<daywei:matrix.org> @agorise:matrix.org: ok

have to ask his parents

<daywei:matrix.org> @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: ok，thank you

<daywei:matrix.org> Guys, I'm going back to the original question again. How can I make it easier for people on my side to purchase Monero? Some of them don't even use VPN

<daywei:matrix.org> I have been using Cake, but it has too high requirements for our country, and ordinary people cannot use it. If any Cake staff sees this message, please consider whether it is possible to bypass the local area network restrictions so that we can use it directly

<user2570:unredacted.org> > <@daywei:matrix.org> I'm also considering doing this: establishing an offline Monero community in China, holding gatherings. I've been thinking about how to organize them and bring more people in, whether it's to increase mobility or to let more people know

<user2570:unredacted.org> Can organizing gatherings / meetups be considered as anti surveillance state anti CCP and potentially get banned? How real is this chance?

<jpk68:matrix.org> @daywei:matrix.org: Cake has built-in Tor support

<jpk68:matrix.org> IIRC it's literally on the setup screen

GFW makes it difficult for noobs?

<user2570:unredacted.org> @jpk68:matrix.org: Tor only is not enough for bypassing the great Chinese firewall

would you like to tell your chinese IP you turned Tor on? they come for your LLM tokens now. not just the social credit ones

ISP*

or that you are using a vpn.... or participating in the monero p2p network?

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> @user2570:unredacted.org: Right. Probably need a vpn / vps / bridge

<daywei:matrix.org> Our gatherings need to be reported to the authorities before they are allowed; otherwise, they are illegal. However, if you want to hold a gathering, the authorities will not approve such a request due to their opposition to gatherings. It's quite funny😂

<user2570:unredacted.org> @daywei:matrix.org: Yeah exactly what I expected

-1000 tokens

<user2570:unredacted.org> llm tokens😆

truly dystopian!

<daywei:matrix.org> @jpk68:matrix.org: Accessing onion services or using VPNs is illegal in our region, and just wanting to chat with you is already considered a violation😂

<user2570:unredacted.org> Strait to jail!

<daywei:matrix.org> @user2570:unredacted.org: Hahaha, I'm actively trying to change everything

<njnini1k:matrix.org> @daywei:matrix.org: A country that protects it's people. Good to know

sounds like something an agent would say

<jpk68:matrix.org> No offense, but why ask Cake to try and circumvent network restrictions if you're already avoiding VPNs or Tor?

<that-guy123:fedora.im> Ya its called blank, and ya tor will get flagged asap

sleeper cell is waking up

<that-guy123:fedora.im> Tor directly

<user2570:unredacted.org> @jpk68:matrix.org: I thought he was asking about buying/selling XMR through some integrated providers or exchanges

<that-guy123:fedora.im> Offline tx the doc server to china?

<that-guy123:fedora.im> Oops

<that-guy123:fedora.im> Put a nod3 on a mtn

<njnini1k:matrix.org> A country trying to protect it's people from the demonic Jews. I see why China is a surveillance state. However, I do love Monero

<daywei:matrix.org> @jpk68:matrix.org: It would be even better if Cake could be accessed without using a VPN. This would definitely make more people aware of it. However, I have to use it now because without a VPN, I can't access Cake or chat with you guys

<user2570:unredacted.org> What is the go-to VPN tech in china? VLESS?

<that-guy123:fedora.im> Can u send a text message via sattelite?

<user2570:unredacted.org> And how do people buy VPN access?

ofrnxmr remember how many alts jackie made?

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> plowsof: not the exact number

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> But shouldnt we call them "satelites" instead of alts?

indeed

<that-guy123:fedora.im> Ohhhhh

<daywei:matrix.org> Sorry, I have received too many messages from you, and I haven't been able to reply to each one here. I hope you don't mind. I am doing my best to answer your questions

<that-guy123:fedora.im> Is china allowed to listen to music? Lol

<daywei:matrix.org> We purchased a VPN online, which enables us to access foreign websites. However, Elon Musk's Starlink is not allowed in China, so we cannot use it

<that-guy123:fedora.im> Srry no offense meant

<that-guy123:fedora.im> Starlink to vpn

<that-guy123:fedora.im> In a mtn

<that-guy123:fedora.im> Yall got those 48gb 5090's???

<daywei:matrix.org> > <@that-guy123:fedora.im> Is china allowed to listen to music? Lol

<daywei:matrix.org> Brother, don't joke like that. Of course, it's possible. It's just that our human rights issues have always been restricted. As for other issues, you can rest assured that China is definitely one of the most civilized and safest countries in the world. There are no drugs, no guns, and even theft and robbery don't happen more t [... too long, see mrelay.p2pool.observer/e/-9Wb3IMLSnRvNmlI ]

<that-guy123:fedora.im> Ty ik, that last part means a lot

<jpk68:matrix.org> @daywei:matrix.org: Do you mean to say that government-controlled access to substances/firearms is not a freedom issue?

<that-guy123:fedora.im> Well ya if u cant have mental freedom

<that-guy123:fedora.im> Is the ganji illegal?

<jpk68:matrix.org> @that-guy123:fedora.im: The Iranian journalist?

<daywei:matrix.org> @jpk68:matrix.org: Yes, I believe everyone would be happy to see the control of lethal weapons. It's best not to let them fall into the hands of ordinary people

<that-guy123:fedora.im> Jpk, im missing something idk whos that

<daywei:matrix.org> ganji What is it?...

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> @daywei:matrix.org: Havent you seen the movies?

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Iirc lethal weapon 4 was my favorite one

<that-guy123:fedora.im> See now what do u need xmr for like ordering weed?

<that-guy123:fedora.im> Isnt btc legal?

<that-guy123:fedora.im> Tank man

<that-guy123:fedora.im> Ik my fault im innapropriate af

<that-guy123:fedora.im> No hate

<daywei:matrix.org> Any cryptocurrency is actually considered illegal in our country, as it is not permitted by the government. There are no explicit regulations yet, but purchasing them is not illegal. However, exchanging them for fiat currency is illegal, and promoting tokens is also illegal

<daywei:matrix.org> @user2570:unredacted.org: I'm not quite sure about this. When it comes to technology, I'm genuinely a bit confused. I'm very sorry for not being able to answer this question. I also use a VPN

<that-guy123:fedora.im> Ok ok, probably shouldnt be discussed here

<that-guy123:fedora.im> Its gotta be just offline...

<user2570:unredacted.org> Dear plowsof, my qusetions stayed unanswered 🙁 > <@user2570:unredacted.org> Can you please guide me how to proceed with these 2 logo proposals.

<user2570:unredacted.org> Just making sure I don't misunderstand you:

<user2570:unredacted.org> 💰 You personally don't like the proposed moneybag Bounties logo because of its potential assosiation with a robbery money bag?[... more lines follow, see mrelay.p2pool.observer/e/qODk3IMLdl9tS3Vo ]

<that-guy123:fedora.im> Picz and muzik. Hazard on...

<that-guy123:fedora.im> whats wrong with a money bag

<daywei:matrix.org> I would like to ask what topics are off-limits for discussion in this group, as I am not familiar with the rules here

<that-guy123:fedora.im> Probably not guv circumventing... opsec

<user2570:unredacted.org> Btw in case design discussions feel off-topic to someone, here is a room for it.

<user2570:unredacted.org> #mdc-lounge:unredacted.org

<that-guy123:fedora.im> "Unredacted.org" lol

<user2570:unredacted.org> @that-guy123:fedora.im: whats wrong pls let me know

<that-guy123:fedora.im> New documentation server has private chat? Or seperate? Or both? And user i think its funny. Txt has no context

<user2570:unredacted.org> @that-guy123:fedora.im: What exactly do you mean by "documentation server"?

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> What documentation server are you talking abt??

<that-guy123:fedora.im> Its where the docs are

<that-guy123:fedora.im> Like isnt more secure and faster for development?

<that-guy123:fedora.im> Jpk's docs could be retrieved...

<jpk68:matrix.org> What are you talking about

<that-guy123:fedora.im> Uh nuffin, brb if anyone feels to message me go ahead

<that-guy123:fedora.im> Oh yeah, if anyone is aware of the "game" or the origin of the proof schema please also message me! Im just trying to advance

<that-guy123:fedora.im> Can u guys please be cool

<that-guy123:fedora.im> Who is mondetta 😂

<that-guy123:fedora.im> @user2570:unredacted.org u can message plowsof here btw Whois info for 'plowsof': ~plowsofma@2001:470:1af1:101::90f9

<that-guy123:fedora.im> Real name: org.matrix:plowsof

<that-guy123:fedora.im> On channels: ["#feather"]

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> @that-guy123:fedora.im: User2570 is mondetta

<that-guy123:fedora.im> Im not trying to spam. To let u all know who are un-ninformed. My cryptography was stolen by the xmr group and associated related coins. So if u support stealing and taking advantage of people then continue to "contribute" to a stolen system. Thats all dont get offended. I would have liked to work with.

a bot^

<that-guy123:fedora.im> I have like 10 new coins about to drop. Mr 192.169.4.20

<that-guy123:fedora.im> Xmr isnt even pq

<that-guy123:fedora.im> And all of mine are pq

litmus tested, goodbye

<that-guy123:fedora.im> Nothing to say huh