why are you still whining about your ccs

it's not a winning strategy for getting it moved to funding

<rbrunner7> How a "winning strategy" could look then? I did not look at all this long-running stuff deeply, but from what I could read here "from the outside" the whole affair sounds a bit confusing. I wonder why no resolution wanted to present itself, even after weeks.

<rbrunner7> First rough guess of mine would be that boths sides, pro merge and against merge, have some valid points, and some compromise would be helpful.

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> A bit of clarity regarding some stuff imo

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> Anonero is loved

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> but there are some holes to patch

like you said, offering a compromise might be a better approach? or explaining the situation to others/asking for support. why aren't all the anonero lovers upvoting the proposal?

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> and they won’t talk about it, explain, cover etc

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> just “merge”

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> geonic: They’re not even patching vulns

yeah it's a pretty ugly pressure tactic. I'd downvote just based on r4v3r23's behavior in this channel

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/671

it worked for ofrn but he's a arguably better whiner

<rbrunner7> lol

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> I asked about some points

thanks, downvoted

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> lolol

upvoting your own proposal is a choice lol

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> was looking through completed CCS

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> is there a monero movie???

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> where can i watch it

it’s on Amazon

search for Límite

I wouldn’t call it a monero movie but there’s a monero element in it

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> doesn't that have a permissively licensed?

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> Not complaining about price or anything like that, I'll watch it but I don't understand

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> Found it

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/matrix.org/PftdIVZnsOBDxreuqZsjwuSb.png (b58d258a-6640-4657-a3d2-46a504cbc70a679858299220917595.png)

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> The movie wasnt funded, only helping it win an oscar was > <@slowbeardigger:matrix.org> doesn't that have a permissively licensed?

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> OooooOOO

<jpk68:matrix.org> Does anyone have a screenshot of the part where Monero is shown

<jpk68:matrix.org> Maybe I should just google it

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> @jpk68:matrix.org: Shown?

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Theres a metal coin with an M on it

<jpk68:matrix.org> Sounds totally worth it

<ravfx:xmr.mx> @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: That's it?

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Ya

<ravfx:xmr.mx> lol, ok

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> isIs it only mentioned or

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> like there’s something going on and Monero is the thing

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> idk

no, monero is not the thing :) it’s a movie about people not about a coin

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> ah

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> okay

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> ty

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> i had some hopes

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> in my mind at least it was used, explained

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> like Mr. Robot goes with some stable coin shit

like in an infomercial?

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> No

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> Like, CCS helped at some point, a little bit more of monero something

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> just me overthinking don’t mind me

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> Ill watch it tonight

cool,

Enjoy

<pw:xmr.mx> I wasn't around for yesterday meeting but +1 for anonero.

<pw:xmr.mx> if things were patched and other opinions/issues taken on board and worked on then what is the problem?

<pw:xmr.mx> it would be a great addition for the Monero eco - isn't this what we all want

generally speaking, kotlin devs with zero pr's to monero-core aren't given free range over a community wallet project, especially kotlin devs who have proven they are content with 4~ year old dependencies (for the entire lifespan? of anonero, build server also none existent. not surprising a new ui is listed as the first milestone , and monero-lws

as the last one , heres full time employment as one of the top earners on the CCS, lol

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> yep

as for the bounty policy changes for jpk68, there is support for his proposal to be subsidised by something - then why not help from the general fund? which historically helps fund monero-core contributors and other essential proposals by about a third

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> because its been in funding for like 4 days

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> gf will likely donate on their own time if it stays in need of funding for a while

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: exaggerations

true

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> i dont think it would be fair to other core contributors if one person is allowed to request GF funding (which isnt inline with the rules / process), while everyone else typically campaigns for funding from community contributors

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> 1. There is no guarantee that your project will get past the Ideas stage, and if it does, there is no guarantee that it will be funded.

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> 2. Your work on the project can begin before the proposal is fully funded, and milestones may (at times) be paid out before the proposal is fully funded.

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> that should be 1 and 6

<jpk68:matrix.org> I think the fact that bounty funding, which could be put to good use, is just sitting there and doing nothing. I think that's stupid

<jpk68:matrix.org> That's just my opinion.

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> 2 is You have to drum up support for your proposal during the first two stages. Do not expect others (especially the Core Team or other trusted members of the community) to do it for you. Others may share and support if they are excited about your project, but ultimately it is nobody's responsibility but your own.

i was fortunate enough to obtain full funding after over 3 months of being in the funding required stage, combined with a contribution from the general fund

YMMV

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> syn waited 2 months to get hinto repurpose

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> v1doc waited like 6 months to be jetfunded by his own overfunding

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> and yes, GF donates to core proposals when the funding is slow, or its a holiday, or just feeling like sprinkling some love on the proposals

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> but its only been in funding for a couple weeks, while redshade and syn have been in funding for months

the CCS is a bank for some proposers - probably more than 1k 'doing nothing' - i wouldnt let it get to you

<pw:xmr.mx> ah I see. > <plowsof> generally speaking, kotlin devs with zero pr's to monero-core aren't given free range over a community wallet project, especially kotlin devs who have proven they are content with 4~ year old dependencies (for the entire lifespan? of anonero, build server also none existent. not surprising a new ui is listed as the first milestone , and monero-lws

<pw:xmr.mx> if that is the case regarding the dev statement, then fair enough - can't really argue if dependences are 4yrs old.

<pw:xmr.mx> it would be nice not to see anonero become forgotten and hopefully someone with a Monero contribution history would be kind enough and willing to help anonero move forward.

<pw:xmr.mx> [... more lines follow, see mrelay.p2pool.observer/e/qMiCi6gLTkdJeGV6 ]

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> nobody knows

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> anonym was the handle, but thats probably just a burner

the deps where / are updated now, after i reported the issue - and was told that its no problem , people "building from source" would get the updated deps - which is either a lie or proof that you're not qualified to be a project lead or are not being advised by compotent people

<pw:xmr.mx> @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: redsh4des Monero redesign is very nice.

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> the current redshade proposal is to bring the same look/feel to ccs

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> speaking of, @plowsof, when merges for redshade and syn updates?

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> helps make them more attractive

<pw:xmr.mx> yeah I did see his screenshots of the CCS revamp. 🔥

<jpk68:matrix.org> plowsof: Alright, so there's funding to feed several devs for years and we're deciding to not take advantage of that. Doesn't make it any better

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> plowsof is refering to how there are thousands of xmr in the ccs wallet simply bcuz devs didnt claim completed milestones

<jpk68:matrix.org> Yes, I know that. My point still stands

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> those funds arent available for repurpose, they are completed works that have not been collected

<syntheticbird> @jpk68:matrix.org: why do I have an impression of deja vu

<syntheticbird> this was already said in the meeting yesterday

<jpk68:matrix.org> I think we're at loggerheads with this, and it's not going anywhere. I get that, and I'll shut up now

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> is this an informal meeting?

the merges will come when we least expect it mostly sooner rather than later

have you by any chance had time to look into the stagex issues syntheticbird?

<syntheticbird> @jpk68:matrix.org: i was about to advice you to do that

<syntheticbird> no offense, its just that I've seen this exact scene at least 5 times since I joined

<syntheticbird> never lead to anything

so can i have my overfunding or not

<syntheticbird> its more of a "don't lose your time and energy" message than "im angry at you for being passionate about it"

im infuriated that my overfunding is used for nothing and was stolen in the ccs hack

<syntheticbird> plowsof no

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> plowsof: no

<syntheticbird> I will for next cuprate meeting

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> haha

💢

<syntheticbird> no to stagex, yes to overfunding plowsof deserves it

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> heres the conspiracy: we dont fix the website to show update totals as soon as the amount is detected, because we want to grow the jetfund

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> overfunding never hurt anybody. those extra piconeros we raised at 100$ spread much further now than they would have back then

unless forgotten it should be updating every 2 mins~ (a timeout of x seconds was added to gitlab calls)

<syntheticbird> @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: just deploy a malicious version of the website in prod directly, why the "i swear we're exploiting this bug". just steal

<pw:xmr.mx> @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: typical retoswap arb attitude :D

we'll find out when n1oc announces something funded 20 mins before it appears on site

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> @syntheticbird: you mean, like how the wrong btc address qr code was up on the website

<syntheticbird> @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: no comment

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> dont tell g e o n i c or he will write another reddit post

i added a nice workflow for it, did redshade delete the commit history for it?

<syntheticbird> @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: bone chilling message

im trying to forget that

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> im dying

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> why yall got me laughing every 30 seconds

<syntheticbird> @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: ikr, i can make you laugh more if you give me your real name and home address

im infuriated that ive been deleted from history , forgotten

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> @syntheticbird: you deliver tickles?

<syntheticbird> @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: i'll make you sparkles 😉

<syntheticbird> f*ck you i cringed myself

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> yup. confirmed

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> xmrpay should be used :p > <@ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> heres the conspiracy: we dont fix the website to show update totals as soon as the amount is detected, because we want to grow the jetfund

<syntheticbird> @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: at least we have a common understanding thats great

<pw:xmr.mx> my uncle gave the best tickles

<pw:xmr.mx> @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: to this. I wasn't being totally random :-D just a little bit

<syntheticbird> @pw:xmr.mx: mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/monero.social/YCpZjpXhowkAeOgkHmsoSsub.png (image.png)

<pw:xmr.mx> @syntheticbird:monero.social his hands arnt even half as cool as Diego's 6 fingered woman on the new website.

<pw:xmr.mx> impressive chin tho.

<john_xmr:matrix.org> Hi everyone, kicking off a community initiative to print 1,500 heavy-duty vinyl Monero stickers with free mail delivery for node runners & members across France. Just posted the full proposal, design mockup, and direct XMR address on Nostr: nostr.com/thread/3dccf0ad0f6cfdb7bc…c3e204cf8fce95effa9d7a95080a6d9d19f

<john_xmr:matrix.org> would love your thoughts!

<stnby:kernal.eu> @john_xmr:matrix.org: Why Wownero and why in English?

<stnby:kernal.eu> Better design something with bank-exit.org in mind or link to their site if the goal is to convert French people.