hello everyone, ive been poking around with building and packaging monero and saw that [contributors are wanted](github.com/monero-project/gitian.sigs#how-to-contribute) to build and confirm the reproducible builds with gitian so i have created [monero-project/gitian.sigs#211] as a draft PR for now if someone can take a look

* created [monero-project/gitian.sigs#211](monero-project/gitian.sigs #211) as

Always good to have more data points, thanks.

cool — i’ll move it from draft then

ben: I've been working on Monero Gitian builds also to see if there is a way to really simplify it. Only 10 guys signed off on v0.18.1.0 which is too low for the size and importance of the project.

well now we’re soon 11

and yeah i also think it can be simpler

the way it is now it doesn’t really “fit” well into my existing build systems, but i think this can be improved

* soon 11 :)

ben: I bought a laptop to dedicate to the work. Refurbished Dell 7390 with 8 gig ram. 16 gig is the most it's supposed to handle but I've sent for a 32 gig single board. There are underground claims you can juice the ram up to 32 gigs without any problems. We'll see in a few days when it comes. I have a computer with an AMD Ryzen 3950 and 64 gigs of ram. It rips out the Docker gitian build in 40 minutes when you set decent

parameters. Hardware and settings makes a big difference.

i got my stuff colocated, live in a flat so i don’t have space for stuff like that (or it gets crammed fast)

got no shortage of hardware though

(or kvm hosts)

ben: The stumbling block I see as to why there are not more builders is having to interact with Github. There are a number of guys (like me) that know linux well. But Git and Github are not learned for two reasons--1. there is no real need to do so if you are not a developer and 2. it's incredibly hard because it does so many many things.

it’s a bit of a niche skill set, when you’re getting paid for it they call you “devops” 🙃

that's a pretty narrow view of git. anybody who writes lots of text documents would benefit from a version control system

i remember using notepad and deleting the top half , building... then the bottom half.. and so on, to find errors, now with git i don't have to waste time (i just delete everything and clone the private repo i have on github xD and pretend like i use version control correctly) lol , but git is very useful , even if you learn a few commands

hey guys! I'm with Guarda wallet, can I talk to someone of Monero contributors? regarding XMR support. thanks

elizabeth_saul11: you're talking to them now

hyc: great. so we’d like to support XMR for management (send/receive/exchanges/purchases operations)

in order to do so we’d need an adapter to interact with the blockchain/ docs that would let us develop such an adapter. That would be API docs with the methods list+ types of data list/ workflow (like the sequence of methods request). can anyone consult on this? and maybe some dev help? thanks

if I understood correctly

elizabeth_saul11: For my research purposes, can you confirm that Guarda wallet currently cannot send transactions since the hard fork?

<Rucknium[m]> "elizabeth_saul11: For my..." <- XMR is under maintenance on Guarda right now, so you cant manage XMR just yet

<sech1> "getmonero.org..." <- thank you! but this one looks like a doc for internal interaction

<hyc> "that's a pretty narrow view of..." <- yeah, a great example of that is weblate (a CAT tool)

(actually im pretty sure the monero project is even using weblate :)

s/even//

elizabeth_saul11 what do you mean by "interact with the blockchain"? monerod interacts with the blockchain, everything else is done via RPC calls - either to monerod directly, or to monero-wallet-rpc

most monero wallets use wallet2.h/wallet2.cpp for all the heavy lifting

from monero/src/wallet directory