Lol damn. It works. My son told me he uses .sockets to pass commands to a minecraft server running as a .service on linux, so created a p2pool.socket so I could echo "status" to /run/p2pool.stdin and it works so I can religiously check the hashrate and shares every 5mins. Linux is fucking beautiful.

^referring to my question earlier about printing status periodically or running commands in the p2pool daemon like monerod can.

just wondering if there is anyone in particular i could / should share my logs with

I don't think you need to in general unless something interesting happens or you have a question, miner.

ok thanks QuickBASIC, will just keep an eye on it

403.70% in the end, ouch

It evens out over the age of the universe

Called it

Also why is my current effort % going down?

It grew from 0% to 70% and now is starting to go down

No shares found tho

And now its slowly going up again

heh, 48 MH/s

largest "Small Pool"

probably because hashrate of sidechain changes mightysnowman

What is a good android monero wallet that supports view-only wallet?

And are there any decent exchanges to turn monero to other crypto and vice versa?

Oh, new block

mightysnowman: Cake Wallet?

you can enter view only keys and leave others alone

does not support p2pool outputs yet

we'll be getting more blocks now with 48 MH/s

#8 on miningpoolstats.stream/monero

Where my shareeeees

All Your Shares Are Belong To Us

I may as well put the lottery on, I'm not going to get any worse luck :D

Your shares = 0 blocks (+0 uncles, 0 orphans)

the worst part was a few days ago where I had one orphan pauliouk :)

that said since those broadcasting changes haven't seen many orphans

oh!

someone is donating hashrate

and it gave me one share

Your shares = 1 blocks (+0 uncles, 0 orphans)

Block reward share = 0.051% (0.000452686162 XMR)

whoever it was, thanks

NOTICE 2021-09-10 07:23:01.7544 StratumServer SHARE FOUND: mainchain height 2446166, diff 480181168, effort 0.104%

noice

#7 now

maybe some pool was hidden temporarily

nanopool API error

Nanopool does something odd. Look at the HR and it goes from 550ish to 200ish back up to 500+

there's a 240 MH/s miner there doing it

even 300 MH/s at peak

ah wow, fair enough

that is some oscillating power

yeah, wonder if it's some kind of server that someone uses to mine out of hours

but also has about several MH/s on "idle"

probably cloud mining abuse again

Peer list size = 102 p2pool will be unstoppable!

keeps growing :)

65 peers in my list

Peer list size = 103

on seed node

Peer list size = 109

on another node

hmm think I'll do another rebuild

always good

hmm 5 blocks - from killing p2pool-api and monerod to restarting them after a rebuild. CPU aint too bad when its not mining :P

what is this irccloud.com/pastebin/weqkxFtm

same here

snap, although xmrig is looking at block 2446301 which changed 2 mins ago

now it's on 303

status on monerod shows up correctly

looking at the explorer, there was indeed a 20min gap in blocks

2446297 00:34:22 1.52

2446298 00:10:40 300.57

big chuncker of a block and some bad luck

yep, it happens

btw, why is p2pool providing jobs before it syncs to latest known side chain height?

that creates quite a spam of low-diff jobs towards clients

That was quite the night -- had no shares for 36h and then we hit blocks and shares rapidly:... (full message at libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/do…63c84c59574fdd6f861833d9f9b6db394a5)

DataHoarder: Yeah, if possible this should be fix -- I'll open an issue on Github

difficulty seems to drop over EU night

DataHoarder: SChernykh/p2pool #20

@DataHoarder - I did wonder if that was the case, I seem to find nothing during the day then find a few over UK night time

45MH/s over the day to 30MH/s overnight

so a bit easier

but as hashrate comes it's going to be harder

but also when you find a share, you will probably get more blocks found within PPLNS window

wonder if its all of the sysadmins in the states mining overnight then switching off during office hours

our luck is terrible today. XvB has landed another block with half of the hashrate

:)

Two ERROR lines I haven't seen before, let me know if you want an issue around these sech1:... (full message at libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/do…5737d17c08b866f2f5b418992ed785a36ef)

5 blocks today for xvb :D

so can the p2pool server let the monerod server about a new block?

^ know

^know

damn

I thought it did?

Does p2pool retry RPC connection at regular intervals, or only once on startup?

My Docker container got updated automatically and failed to connect to RPC and just hung there for 5m+

Restarting it fixed instantly

yeah i think it does.

Must take longer than 5m :P

That was as long as my limited patience allowed

Oh damn did we find a bunch of blocks after 0900 UTC? I had one share last night but 3 payouts. Nice.

Sethsimmons: your p2pool how to article is awesome!

some small look into a "share location" visualization irc.gammaspectra.live/8c4d98e64307a141/image.png

Monero RPC is a HTTP request-response, there's no permanent connection

ZMQ restores connection automatically

1-9, more than that shows a +

*sigh*

I restarted my Monero node several time while p2pool was running, it worked flawlessly

Hashrate (15m est) = 5.787 KH/s

Hashrate (1h est) = 5.996 KH/s

Hashrate (24h est) = 5.632 KH/s

Total hashes = 34351566

Shares found = 0

Average effort = 0.000%

Current effort = 6.996%

so you can see how long you have till you have your shares in

sech1: Odd, because p2pool wouldn't sync after that RPC error until I restarted it, but it was getting ZMQ info of course.

DataHoarder: Damn, thats awesome!

what RPC error?

sech1: Full logs around it:... (full message at libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/do…5dc8acf9a749e6da27219ebe540da41e2cf)

After restarting p2pool it connected to RPC and properly synced side-chain.

it was one of the initial RPC requests that failed, so p2pool didn't start properly

also "NOTICE 2021-09-10 12:59:09.6902 ConsoleCommands EOF, stopping"

that's not good, do you use any console input redirection?

No, this is just running as a Docker container, starts with `p2pool` and any command args passed.

sethsimmons: I passed a proper terminal so you can attach and run commands

Should I change something to do that here?

tty: true

stdin_open: true

on compose file

In compose?

Ah

Let me check your compose file

see notes on README on how to attach & detach

Interesting!

Will add that.

ahh, the donated share is gone

sech1: I might open a PR with this soon, is this wanted / any suggestions on it already, at least how it looks? irc.gammaspectra.live/5176bd182d37b49b/image.png

Nice, works like a charm!

Thanks DataHoarder

(they only show if you have a block share or uncle respectively

looks good. What if you have more than 9 shares on the same "dot"?

15:11:41 <DataHoarder> 1-9, more than that shows a +

number of dots can be adjusted in code

just got a share, lost a share irc.gammaspectra.live/638dc5f5c6d0a325/image.png

they slide left to right

sech1: the RPC failure causing no sync with side-chain happened on my other p2pool node after a restart as well.

Would you like an issue around this?

yeah, the no retry has happened a few times, though sethsimmons look at my entrypoint

you can query monerod to see when it's up and synced

monerod was up and running fully synced both times

That's not the issue here -- but both are connecting to restricted RPC if that matters.

I think we have a kind of similar setup :)

last share now slid one dot irc.gammaspectra.live/8101d82ab46be986/image.png

so it works at least

Added a section on running `status` now, thanks for the help on that DataHoarder: sethforprivacy.com/guides/run-a-p2p…ool-node/#viewing-your-mining-stats

I didn't even know that was a thing till now :D

this time it was easy, but usually hardest part of the setup is making containers truly read-only

DataHoarder: I'm relatively new to Docker, so I'd love any recommendations you have around my two Dockerized Monero tools:

use builders

then just copy binaries over

Both use a build stage and do just that :)

lemme open them :)

ohh

> RUN test -z "$NPROC" && nproc > /nproc || echo -n "$NPROC" > /nproc && make -j"$(cat /nproc)" release-static

I'd just like to thank my ISP for updating the firmware on my modem, giving me an extra 50mbp/s downstream, and making the connection about as stable as a chihuahua after swallowing a full bottle of caffeine pills :|

going to keep this running for a while till it goes by a few blocks, so maybe will open it in a few hours or over the weekend sech1

just happened at the right time where I had both normal and uncle shares :D

Your shares = 6 blocks (+1 uncles, 0 orphans)

Your shares location = [..2...1...1...1............1..]

Your uncles location = [....1.........................]

I don't know if "location" is the best naming for that, in code it was named chart

50 MH/s nice

How about, Your shares in window = [..2...1...1...1............1..]

that has a nicer ring to it

or, Your shares position = [..2...1...1...1............1..]

as always, the hardest problem to solve while programming is "naming"

(and off-by-one, heh)

369% again

nice, maybe we can beat 403.70%

it's doing it quicker now

would be quite entertained XvB seeing your output of status after/if this gets merged

lol, ++++++++

exactly

maybe could have a different character for higher ranges

but this feels simpler and useful for people that worry about a few shares

while larger ones, well, they are mostly averaged out by volume

DataHoarder looks good, a few small changes and then I'll merge it

DataHoarder Why can't it count up in b64 instead of just putting +? :-P decimal is arbitrary.

yep, working on it sech1

QuickBASIC: initially I was going to do 0-f, but yeah, arbitrary

base64 counting, heh

hmmmm

(not adding it for here, but indeed gives ideas :) )

Yeah no, it would be ugly and not intuitive. I was just kidding.

this is easy for anyone that wants to provide their own mapping of count -> character anyhow

force-pushed sech1, seems like it's building now

seems like it has issues on Windows

#8 on miningpoolstats.stream/monero

I'll just hardcode uint32_t

no, you just forgot #include <array>

yep, just went up the log

classic difference from windows vs linux includes

reminds me of working with someone that created Time.h

but included "time.h"

"works on my machine"

there, force-pushed

it also failed on macos

I'll check, same error?

yes, it was the same

400+% again

soon new record

What's our effort ATH?

403.7%

now 404.06%

404: Share Not Found

Oh wait does that mean our current effort is the highest effort that the pool has seen then?

yes

We're above 54 MH/s tho...

with the highest hashrate is has seen too

so % increases quicker

413% unlucky

I really did not want to see 420.69%, but it's going to be here soon

oh, it's merged!

6blocks on XvB now heh, I might have switched too soon :D

the grass is always greener on the other side

Is a new job every 10s too quick? Would it help my slower miners if the jobs were coming in less frequently? Sometimes I can see jobs in less than 10s coming in

every 10s cause on average new blocks come in to side chain every 10s

new hashrate = quicker for a bit

OK

[2021-09-10 16:18:33.131] net new job from 127.0.0.1:3333 diff 250012 algo rx/0 height 2446405 (48 tx)

[2021-09-10 16:18:34.179] net new job from 127.0.0.1:3333 diff 250012 algo rx/0 height 2446405 (48 tx)

[2021-09-10 16:18:34.923] net new job from 127.0.0.1:3333 diff 250012 algo rx/0 height 2446405 (48 tx)

sub 1 second jobs when the difficulty is pathetically low :P

hmm?

do you have custom diff?

250k yup

but yes at times I can see multiple jobs coming in on the same second

I was just wondering if 10s was too quick in that it was going 'here's a new job before you finished the last one' type thing

"Finished" :)

I mean unless you have less than 100H/s you are not losing that much

and even then

solutions for previous jobs are also accepted, they will just be mined as uncles on p2pool

up to 4 previous jobs

no, up to 3

Main chain hashrate = 2.648 GH/s

Side chain height = 88298

Side chain hashrate = 57.376 MH/s

Your hashrate (pool-side) = 144.861 KH/s

PPLNS window = 2160 blocks (+76 uncles, 0 orphans)

Your shares = 6 blocks (+0 uncles, 0 orphans)

Your shares position = [.............1........2.11...1]

Block reward share = 0.252% (0.002204506684 XMR)

I like it DataHoarder!

Your shares = 7 blocks (+1 uncles, 0 orphans)

Your shares position = [......11.....2...1...1...1....]

Your uncles position = [...............1..............]

:)

bad luck there lately for you it seems Hishawork

I'd like to run p2pool as a service in systemd but I don't want to include the wallet/config in the command line. Plans for that to go into the config file sech1 ?

you could compile your own version that defaults to that karce[m]

embedded address :)

wallet address is public on p2pool anyway

I guess more accurately I wanted it in config so I can distribute the .service file for others to use it.

But there are workarounds like you said.

ah, I guess you could make the .service file itself pass it in cmd from environment variables?

or do you want everyone to use same wallet address to you

Hahah that's exactly it : D (jk)

Everyone mine to my wallet >.>

144Kh/s vrs my 6Kh/s

mining at 11kh/s now and still shit luck

BLOCK!

took its time!

difficulty = 317466910314

the higher % effort the lower payout right?

hmm, sech1, got "P2Pool submit_block (external blob): daemon returned error: unknown error"

mightysnowman: not really, it's just a diff % from your "expected average" (100%)

yes you could have gotten more blocks, but long term it averages out

58MH/s

465.02% effort new top

DataHoarder: Seems to have gone through without issues for me:... (full message at libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/do…e6b85ecc45c355c6e20eaab4c0cd7e2f807)

Same ^^

yep that's the usual here

wow, 2 blocks in 2 seconds

Only one that I see.

ah global blocks, not ours unfortunately :(

so out of curiosity, what would be a sensible difficulty level, should I be looking at having X accepted blocks per minute?

pauliouk: doesn't matter, as difficulty scales up on side chain based on actual hashrate to keep it at 6h for PPLNS window

you can override it on your client, but those will not produce shares, just better average hashrate reporting for you

ah ok, that makes perfect sense. I'll keep it at around 500k - and rebuild the node again as I'd like to see the updated status window :P

aye

that's what I have for my external hashrate too

60Mh/s... not long til 100Mh/s

only 4000 x 3700x needed

more blocks!

oh shit. just decided to watch the logs and BAM

BLOCK FOUND

again > P2Pool submit_block (external blob): daemon returned error: unknown error

it's normal

check monero node logs around that time

sus

D:

most likely "transaction not found in mempool error"

hadn't seen it until now, it's basically that error yes

both times :)

it happens sometimes when you try to submit someone else's block template

hmm, then that still doesn't avoid the issue of slow block propagation in some cases

I don't have this on my node

even if only 50% of nodes submit successfully, it will still propagate faster

yes

just sus cause it happened twice in a row

I guess monerod doesn't like new blocks that have transactions it hasn't seen yet?

yes

because block template only has transaction hashes

for shits and giggles I just fired up xmrig on my laptop... [2021-09-10 17:30:50.121] miner speed 10s/60s/15m 56.25 56.47 n/a H/s max 58.49 H/s

man, even my phone can mine at 40h/s

:)

I'm pretty sure the CPU in my vape could mine quicker :P

vape has a cpu? why tho

I thought it has small ic to regulate the current and thats it

this one has LCD screen output and other pointlessness

something's not right like, load avg's are only around 1.5

17:34:23 up 416 days, 1:34, 1 user, load average: 1.58, 1.59, 1.34

usually idles around that with everything I have running on here

saying that though, betterhash rates the CPU at around 40h/s

poor little celeron N2830

probably hugepages or lack of cache on the celeron

cache is what you need

poor Xeons around here

hugepages is set, almost certainly cache issue

oh

it has 1 whole MiB of cache

shame, I've got an old HP desktop sitting on the floor next to me, dual CPU - probably mines around 100h/s such a waste

4.5 W

yeah a raspi is better than this :>

yup. Got a couple Pi 3's sitting in the draw

I wonder how well a RISC-V cpu would mine

shame the Pi zero's are no use in mining, got about 10 of those

if pi's were cheaper then a pi cluster for mining would be great

probably get a load of used ones - doubt they'd of been used heavily, must be a load of schools wanting rid of them since you can't play fortnite on them, the kids aren't interested

but you can play minecraft on them

and make such project that if you die in minecraft u ded irl

hmm 5 untested Pi 4Bs 4gb

untested aka blown gpio or power input

no sign of magic smoke being released in the pictures

no need

gpio can stop working and everithing else is ok

it is a fuse inside cpu

I suppose its the roll of the dice you take buying in bulk from ebay. Worked out at about £14GBP each (unfinished auction)

yep

not even sure I have enough usb cables spare to run 5 pis anyway, so that'd be additional expense... by the time I set them up, I could have bought some 2nd hand AMD desktop that'd mine 5x as quick heh

what you guys think, what to focus on more, hashrate per $ or hashrate per W when buying cpu's for monero?

I tend to look at hashrate per $, not too worried about electricity usage, on a fixed rate thats already extortion

it seems that it's best to buy cheaper amd cpu's when looking to buy many cpu's for mining irccloud.com/pastebin/vWFRMpdT

mightysnowman: I just buy 3900x and call it a day

don't forget to factor in the REST of the machine in your calculations

psu, ram, MB, case, cooler ... you get higher density cores vs machine parts with more expensive and faster hashing chips

hmm I found AMD Ryzen 9 3900x for 50$ on an auction site

seems fishy

offtopic, but what would two laptops with the exact same chipset get wildly different hash rates. One is almost twice the speed of the other. Like 1.9x.

are they old?

what are the temps, perhaps thermal throttling?

Nah they're not too old. I7-8550u in both.

They might have different power limits and cooling solutions

or ram

Yeah, the lenovo is a small form factor convertible so it has the RAM soldered and the dell is a giant beastly thing with room for actual chips. I'm wondering if the ram is slower on the lenovo.

someone big dropped out

not getting many block shares

on two different nodes, two regions

got a few in bulk a few minutes ago too

oh, whoever it was, came back?

hmm, Ryzen 5 3600XT, (approx 6KH/s) with a B450 ATX mobo for £289... thats about what I paid for my 3600 alone a year ago

Your shares = 0 blocks (+0 uncles, 0 orphans)

still waiting my first of the day :(

oh, side chain reorg

hmm, side chain blocks are coming in bulk

then they stop

what is this

just invalid transactions mightysnowman

61 MH/s?

6 orphans, hmm

mainly shares that were published then whoever disconnected published like 20x side chain blocks at once

10 orphans

That was XvB's node. It either got ahead 2 blocks on Monero blockchain for a while or got stuck. In either case it started ignoring other p2pool shares.

Having 98% of hashrate on 1 node has some drawbacks...

:)

yeah, I got many of them broadcasted in bulk

have seen their node stuck at times

is all hashrate XvB now though?

still most outputs going to single indeed

surprisingly nothing after that till it gets to level of 300-200KH/s

what about having several monerod sources sech1

probably requires a major-ish rewrite

to not many upsides if you get a single monerod instance right

2-3 lines of code rewrite actually

with several other nodes added

oh

ZMQ is easy in that part

hmm

just add more m_subscriber.connect in zmq_reader.cpp

it already connects to 2 sources there

(2nd publisher is an internal one required to send command to zmq_reader)

yes, it's actually not hard to connect to multiple Monero nodes

that might be ... neat

but the problem is they all will send same block/transaction notifications, it will probably break things elsewhere

they can even send different transactions, p2pool will use both and resulting block template will be invalid on both nodes

so it can probably use only transactions sent from all connected nodes

maybe just multiple for new block sources and warn

so a bit bigger rewrite...

or fallback from one to other depending what gets stuck

but then it doesn't seem so simple

2021-09-10 19:05:18.9565 P2Pool submit_block: BLOCK ACCEPTED at height 2446547 and difficulty = 328203071072

just as a bunch of shares expired :)

I haven't had a share all day :( starting to think I'm outgunned here :P

2021-09-10 19:06:59.4272 StratumServer SHARE FOUND: mainchain height 2446549, diff 614640202, effort 1.171%

let's goo

pauliouk: reminder that when you find a share, you might get it paid out multiple times on average

(totally did not mine till 127% effort before my pc crashed)

unless you get 400% stuff like today, but it averages out

also what is the "your share position" ?

the new thing added?

yes

it's for the shares you have in your current PPLNS window

where they are in the "window"

ooh okay

left to right, earlier to later ones

cool, now its easier to understand

see example here mightysnowman SChernykh/p2pool #22

so you see more or less what you have for so long, without having to monitor much

or for smaller ones, where is their single share along

so they can cross fingers for some pool-wide luck

for XvB though it's probably all +++++++++

oh thats dope

may need to upgrade

would recommend

Your shares = 4 blocks (+0 uncles, 0 orphans)

Your shares position = [.....11................11.....]

and fuckin congrats for scoring p2pool.io sech1

they are both comfy next to each other

i love this line: git submodule sync && git submodule update --init --force --recursive

git submodule shut-up-and-work

well you might sync in new submodules

blame checkout

1h 30m so far to build monerod with reduced cores on GH actions, welp

last one got killed OOM

Wait so thats why monerod syncing slower now?

no, just talking about compiling on github actions CI

syncing a new node, got a new error

Exception at [portable_storage::load_from_binary], what=duplicate key: support_flags

for monerod

fun

then it went away

gingeropolous I was surprised .io domain was available :D

gingeropolous: "oh thats dope" did you just say that u ironically?

s/u ironically/unironically

Is there a free irc server that holds chat history?

When I'm offline also

Oh cool

Okay that's separate history thing

But is there such thing that allows to chat also?

So like I can conveniently scroll the history and chat at the same place

Matrix

You could run a ZNC server and use a client that supports scroll back.

Yeah just join via Matrix

Much easier

sethsimmons: "Yeah just join via Matrix" is Matrix bidirectionally bridged with our IRC channels?

Yes

I'm speaking from Matrix :)

Nice

For those interested in joining via Matrix: forum.monero.space/d/83-join-the-monero-core-team-matrix-server

Can use the Monero Matrix server and then join this room #monero-pow:monero.social

I go for food and come back to see you've been smashing blocks without me? :o

the audacity

Test from Matrix

quickbasic[m]: Works 😎

Yuck. It made my username wrong case.

The horror

Why does the matrix account have [m]?

To show you on the IRC side that its from Matrix

To show that the person is on Matrix

You can change your IRC nick associated with that Matrix user though to remove it

Yeah, but Seth doesn't have one?

Ah

test

Huh I have a '1' next to my name on Matrix

Epsilon[m]1: Works :D

@appservice:libera.chat !nick QuickBASIC

Lol yeah mt

QuickBASIC: as people said, a bouncer like znc, or if you want web stuff, The Lounge

using znc here with many clients

You guys better start mining blocks or I'll be in debt and homeless

^ Yeah ZNC was a lot easier to setup than navigating this Matrix thing lol.

Yay 5 more minutes until I can reboot my (personally owned) "work" machine and add some hashrate over the weekend.

We mined blocks mightysnowman

or did you just get a share in?

Imagine someone swooping in and 51% away your share and not even giving you uncle rights

cute > Your shares position = [...1....111......1.1..........]

failed mac build on monerod with just two threads, I believe something just doesn't love how much memory it uses

I compiled it on VPS with 4GB, so... #justmacstuff

it's docker within mac on github actions, so yeah

too many threads? OOM kill

too few? sorry timeout

Everytime someone says OOM I have a chuckle because it means the same thing for compiling and RPGs, except there's no madman running around killing you when you run out of mana.

can't wait till Cake Wallet loads newest monero changes - finally will be able to just turn off everything and just look at the view only wallet there

maybe I should just write a quick notifier that scans blocks for known outputs from p2pool instead, hmm

something to ponder on weekend

minexmr 32.7%, I've never seen it at that low %

hmm, bad luck + supportxmr + nanopool getting high wave?

though p2pool keeps growing damn

65MH/s

sech1: "minexmr 32.7%, I've never seen it at that low %" We're going to hopefully see it go much lower once monero is updated so people just have to download p2pool binaries.

p2pool + monerod :)

and some people don't run their monero instances

hmm

p2pool as a service, except it's just going directly to shares, no "wallet" intermediary

me no like

it feels like we doubled hashrate and reduced rate of blocks coming out, but I know it's just the feeling :)

new block!

heh xmrchain.net/block/2446652

0 transactions

only reward

Wow. Mempool is that empty or transaction selection bug?

at that moment I was also using a template with 0 txs

after it was found it added 2 txs to later templates

a block had been found JUST before this one that mined 102 tx and 0.13 XMR in fees

total reward of 1 XMR, ours 0.87 XMR :<

so no selection bug, just unlucky

there were only 8 seconds between the previous block and no txs in that time so.....

somewhere a grammar dies

IRC RFC never specified you had to send grammatically correct PRIVMSG

:)

Im still shareless :(

More blocks yay