<b​asses:matrix.org> looks corporate with all of that stats

<b​asses:matrix.org> but this design might fit Monero with info focus changed

<b​asses:matrix.org> however current redesign looks good too

<h​ardenedsteel:monero.social> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…ero.social/MpmcFloGlPKyHlKhhOrbbpeo

<h​ardenedsteel:monero.social> why this icon looks different?

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Wdym

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> Literally a conspiracy

<c​hch3003:monero.social> Instead of hiring an agency, maybe we can organize a contest, to design only the home page, and win a prize.

<c​hch3003:monero.social> It should create community engagement, it's fun, etc

<d​arkhappyman:monero.social> so there will be choice to choose from

<3​21bob321:monero.social> anyone know this saying "Too many cooks spoil the broth"

i think it would be more like masterchef where the judges taste the food

<c​hch3003:monero.social> Haha

<d​arkhappyman:monero.social> monero show

<b​asses:matrix.org> cointelegraph.com/news/chainalysis-leak-monero-traceability

<b​asses:matrix.org> >Cointelegraph approached Monero for comment but had not heard back at the time of publication.

<b​asses:matrix.org> how they "approached Monero"?

No idea, they weren't seen on IRC/matrix or Reddit

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> 😆😆😆

<b​asses:matrix.org> email? can anyone managing emails check which address "they used"

<b​asses:matrix.org> to contact monero lol

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> hardware⊙go

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> bro probably asked @monero in twitter dm

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> *we're very excited to announce that we will investigate your request*

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Lmfao

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> x.com/monero/status/1833205813399457908

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> @monero excited again

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Bro manage to get infos before we do

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> i swear people are dm @monero because they think its the community manager

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Isnt it?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> I though @monero speaks for all of us.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> "we" are the most excited crypto community there ks

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> (/s)

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> I don't complain tho, if we forget the ***We're excited***, he is doing a pretty good job

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> it should say "i'm excited 🤩🤩" not "we"

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> like, who is "we"? The account posts as it it speaks a collective opinion

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> It doesn't particularly surprise nor make me incomfortable. It's ok for a social account to take endorsement on the behalf of the community.

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> most of its takes are reasonable. and I think most of the community is excited about he share

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> what he share*

<b​asses:matrix.org> yes

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> I'm not excited, and most of the community is me and my split personalities / subaccounts

<b​asses:matrix.org> banofrnxmr

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> thx for reminding me i'm your alt

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> rmxnrfonab

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> I havent seen him in like 12days

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> skill issue. I saw him literally 2 sec ago

<b​asses:matrix.org> that twitter guy should post both diego's and hammer design

<b​asses:matrix.org> and see people thoughts

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> what if its a twitter girl?

<b​asses:matrix.org> because deigo thinks 4-5 people opinion is not enough on certain stuff

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> ^

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> ofrnxmr, we're on the paranoid side of internet. There are no girls

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> only men that act like men or men that act like girls

<b​asses:matrix.org> show someone on the streets your app list, they will call cops on you

<b​asses:matrix.org> where's is snapchat, facebook?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> i have snap and facebook

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> I'm sorry for your loss

<b​asses:matrix.org> hey officer

<b​asses:matrix.org> how you feel about facebook spying on your snapchat activities?

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> ofrnxmr being glowie is like minecraft movie, no one set expectations but they managed to get deceived

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> i don't feel any sort of way about facebook spying on my early morning offtopics

<b​asses:matrix.org> cybernews.com/news/facebook-spying-…chat-youtube-amazon-installing-kits

<b​asses:matrix.org> Onavo VPN

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> They should just pay for my OF like civilized persons

<b​asses:matrix.org> OF coin? ofrnxmr

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Onlyfans

<b​asses:matrix.org> When monero finds a sysadmin it would be cool to have a forum

<b​asses:matrix.org> monero.space is by SGP and looks like it is inactive legally? wyobiz.wyo.gov/Business/FilingDetai…51116092123125219038058020252005207

monero space has an active admin cleaning up the spam every so often

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> ```

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Standing - Tax     

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Delinquent

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> ``

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> > Status     

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> > Inactive - Administratively Dissolved (Tax)

<b​asses:matrix.org> >Inactive - Administratively Dissolved or Revoked (Tax): This entity has failed to file the required annual report by the 60th day following its due date.

<b​asses:matrix.org> thought SGP is good with legal stuff

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> unrelated to -site btw

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> #monero-space:monero.social

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> Why I pinged?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Rando wanted @monero to post that its excited about yours and hammermans designs

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> To spread awareness

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> we should use 'enthuzed'

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Monero outreach when?

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> Monero reaching out to you

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Through the matrix

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Scott cleans it

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Lol

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Sounds like website group is becoming bloatware

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> oh don't worry, that was initially the plan but it has very much turned into design by committee

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Workgroup prune node when?

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Tbh just create a test branch with and connect to cloolify with a base setup and go from there. 3 people in docs have this to show examples of the docs site.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Feature/topic branches are technically not allowed

<3​21bob321:monero.social> On your own repo

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Like 2.5 admins do

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> there are actually 3 live coolify instances service docs

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Serving*

<3​21bob321:monero.social> 3 coolify ,1 cup

<h​ardenedsteel:monero.social> lol at least we made Streisand effect

<b​asses:matrix.org> 🤝

<b​asses:matrix.org> hopefully monero community can fight all the incoming misinfo from feds and other maxis etc soon!

<h​ardenedsteel:monero.social> maybe a blog post can be helpful about it

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Why should we publicize it

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> "hi. We are excited to confirm that chainalysis successfully used our known tracing methods to trace a transaction"

<b​asses:matrix.org> depends on how bad they are going with their campaign

<b​asses:matrix.org> yes

<h​ardenedsteel:monero.social> no about concerns about traceability no need to mention chainanal

<b​asses:matrix.org> "nothing new, it is all known attack vectors, check "Breaking Monero series"".

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> "we are also excited to say that at some point in the future we hope to have audits done on fcmp without government interference, and we will hardfork afterwards. no, development is not done yet, but we are excited tk say that we are confident that feds will allow us to complete this work without interference"

<b​asses:matrix.org> so everyone can shut up

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> "Dont use monero if you rely on perfect privacy. Use zcash"

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Concerns are valid so idk why we'd do damage control to pretend like they arent

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Theybe neem valid for many years and, as i said a few days ago, monero was stagnant for years after fluffy arrest

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> This stuff should have been done years ago

<h​ardenedsteel:monero.social> i wasn't active here that much

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Instead, we had devs scamming ccs and nobody willing to speak up

<b​asses:matrix.org> at least now, people are active

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Plowsof just made 1 yr of helping right the ship

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> And were ~1yr from a hardfork

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> were 1yr out getting "hacked"

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Dont need media blitz, need to work silently and get the job done

design by committee?

oh good

please keep the current site so that I don't have to learn anything new :)

<b​asses:matrix.org> learn wot

<b​asses:matrix.org> do you revisit the website? how often and why?

As excited as I am, I still haven’t seen a simple list of requirements for the new design or areas of improvement over the current design (except dark mode)

Various people are putting proposals forward and we’re left to judge them by personal taste rather than some objective criteria

Not ideal..

<b​asses:matrix.org> Criteria, criteria, criteria

<b​asses:matrix.org> should have been all the way

<b​asses:matrix.org> so we can organize, order, choose and stop being messy

<b​asses:matrix.org> so we can organize, choose and stop being messy

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Leave for pr department

mostly I visit to keep track of the CCS

downloads ofc

and occasionally resources

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> One day we'll have an onion for ccs Diego Salazar

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Myself and plowsof have been trying to get it done for probably 9 months now

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Ppl should be able to donate privately, without cloudflare

<b​asses:matrix.org> ???

<b​asses:matrix.org> hard to correlated transaction with IP from web visitors

<b​asses:matrix.org> it is just a donation address

<b​asses:matrix.org> you are already using Tor in the first place

<b​asses:matrix.org> but it doesn't hurt if it is easy to setup and will not take another 9 months

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> And my isp

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Have you nevwr setup an onion?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> It takes like 4 seconds

<b​asses:matrix.org> nope

<b​asses:matrix.org> yeah, saw tutorials

<b​asses:matrix.org> why it took 9mnths?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> github.com/nahuhh/onetouchtor

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Cuz who knows

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> But we setup tor and i2p for docs.getmonero.org in like 2min45seconds

<b​asses:matrix.org> isp can't, your threat model when using Tor is relay/node operators and web server

<b​asses:matrix.org> isp can just know you are using Tor, but you can always connect using VPN before connecting to Tor

<b​asses:matrix.org> and they won't know u are connected to Tor

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Cloudflare

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> takes me like 10seconds to get to the website

<b​asses:matrix.org> hmmm

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Disrespectful to my privacy to have a cf gate on donations

<h​ardenedsteel:monero.social> who hosts the site? bf?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Www.getmonero.org doesnt have the gate, and has an onion

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Ccs has gate, and no onion

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Hosts ccs? Dont quote me but i think diego / cypherstack

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Bf for www.getmonero

<3​21bob321:monero.social> The Boogie man

<3​21bob321:monero.social> We are decentralized hoster here

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Diego ^