<r​brunner7:monero.social> I apologize to Diego Salazar . I made two comments yesterday that were not ok and unfair to him:

<r​brunner7:monero.social> > Luigi 2 month ago on the website CCS proposal: "Closing in favor of constructing a functioning website workgroup". Boy, did that work out.

<r​brunner7:monero.social> This is very easy to read as "Diego failed to manage that workgroup successfully", whereas he did his best, and continues to do so, to bring the project "new Monero website" finally forward

<r​brunner7:monero.social> > From now on, if I don't like how something goes in Monero, I will immediately start to think how I could strategically offer 4 XMR to derail everything and get my will.

<r​brunner7:monero.social> This is very easy to read as "It was Diego's intention to sway things into the "Hugo" direction intentionally when he offered XMR for a Hugo proof-of-concept". I am sure that there was no such intention, what happened was a classic case of "unintended consequences".

<r​brunner7:monero.social> Not an excuse, but an explanation: When I made those two comments I was deeply upset about how things had turned out. I lashed out in anger, and instead of helping, I made things worse still. I hope that will teach me to refrain from commenting in such a mental state.

<3​21bob321:monero.social> 50 lashings?

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Lets be honest the dalai lama couldnt get consensus

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> So, if i understand correctly, everyone is waiting for next meeting to discuss the backend choice (again) ? Is the design still ongoing ?

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Question that needs anwering

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Update website or re-write

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Cause the design can be used anywhere

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Then have sword fights for backend

<b​asses:matrix.org> we probably should discuss if we need to redesign the website along with the graphics present currently

<b​asses:matrix.org> until we we wait for rec's hugo rewrite

<3​21bob321:monero.social> I can see why plowsof avoids here

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Seraphis will be here before consensus

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Thats 3 weeks

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> What is this, the us goverment trying to legalize marijuana?

So janaka closed their CCS incase we didnt know

Just stating it as a matter of fact, so, how can i/we help you recanmann

<b​asses:matrix.org> until we we wait for rec's hugo port

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> recanman: is planning on migrating current site to Hugo whatsoever is the consensus ?

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> or am I confused?

<b​asses:matrix.org> he's is going to actually work on it

<b​asses:matrix.org> dieogo paid him already

<b​asses:matrix.org> if it turns out to be good then I'm fine with it, Hugo is great too

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> i've no doubt it will turn out good it's just not very democratic. I wanted to see Astro and despite no consensus someone get funded for doing a work? I understand rbrunner7 message better

<b​asses:matrix.org> can you do it in Astro?

<b​asses:matrix.org> Diego is willing to pay for anyone want to do it in Astro

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> *neuron activation*

<b​asses:matrix.org> jank CCS included the also a the redesgn concept I think

<b​asses:matrix.org> jank CCS included also the redesign concept I think

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> mhm, well myum... whats scope? also hmh. how myuch? Diego Salazar

<b​asses:matrix.org> but a lot of people said current design is ok, but I see graphics are very outdated ~~and a bit childish~~. Doesn't represent community at all

We use sprites for images still (early 1990's this was cool)

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> a lot of people saying that are zoomers wanting to stick with Gnome 2 or KDE 4, or worst XFCE.

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Anyone telling me the website doesn't need a change just don't care about it.

<b​asses:matrix.org> most had bad & NPC takes

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Dark mode is 4 criminal enterprises only

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Like cuprate and digilol

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> ..Criminals

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Hi rottenwheel

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> Hi sir.

<v​ostoemisio:matrix.org> Hi rottenwheel

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> 4 xmr

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> whats the scope exactly? all the website? including content?

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> Yes

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> I guess not every blog post ever

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> But several of them so we can see pagination and how it works overall

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> i18n included ?

<b​asses:matrix.org> built in hugo, right?

<b​asses:matrix.org> built-in hugo, right?

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> no if i do it its in astro

<b​asses:matrix.org> oh sorry I meant astro, docs.astro.build/en/recipes/i18n

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Not the content imo.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> lorem ipsum is fine by me lol. Content migration can happen later, if at all. Some content csn be dropped entirely/ like some of the docs/guides

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Diego Salazar. also is it a parallel bounty or am i in *competition with @recanman* just to be sure

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> You will be paid regardless.

Nice

<b​asses:matrix.org> cool

How often do we need to redesign the site so that we are up to date and cool?

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> every 8 years

I guess that we should start working on the next redesign as soon as we complete this one :D

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> precognition. i like it

<r​brunner7:monero.social> > I guess that we should start working on the next redesign as soon as we complete this one :D <- Perfect, that's the spirit

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Welcome benji1234 , to successfully register into monero channels you must type the following sentence:

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> > *Long live monero-chan*

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Without the sentence your messages will be unreadable by other people in the channel

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> he is probably a bot

<3​21bob321:monero.social> So recanman is porting current to hugo and then it might change again to something else. Sounds like a waste of time.

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> its porting the current site, there will be a redesign anyway

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> i mean

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> i don't give a choice, its either their a redesign or i DDoS monero network.

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> I'll continue with the porting unless Diego asks me to stop and I'll refund him

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> I'll migrate all content except for documentation as it seems that is not wanted

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Can i help with the first D?

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Move ddos from town to network plz

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Is there a repo this port is going to?

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Or stealth addresses

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> Yes

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> github.com/recanman/hugo-monero-site-theme

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> github.com/recanman/hugo-monero-site

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Mine is here: github.com/SyntheticBird45/monero-site-astro

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> Are the user guides and developer guides the documentation part that does not need to be migrated?

<3​21bob321:monero.social> One could point coolify instance to the public repo

<3​21bob321:monero.social> @ofrnxmr

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> Pushed first changes. I ported a couple of pages

<h​ardenedsteel:monero.social> 🍿

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Yea

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> github.com/monero-project/monero-docs

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> docs.getmonero.org

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Diego Salazar: you haven't responded if i18n is included in the migration process. recanman are you doing it too? if yes, all languages ?

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> I'll try my best

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> The expectation is yes

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> one language at least, I'd suppose

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> can even be lorem ipsum

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> but I need to see how it works

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> For strings just a yaml file in /i18n. For pages just a page with a separate extension

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> page.fr.md <-- like this IIRC

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> docs.getmonero.org/rpc-library/monerod-rpc << example of some migrated

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> Do I migrate moneropedia?

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> And what about the user guides? getmonero.org/resources/user-guides

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Only some of those guides should be

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Like joining matrix

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Mining guides are moving to docs

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> How to run a node as well

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> 66.md.monerodevs.org/running-node/open-node-tor-onion

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> 66.md.monerodevs.org/running-node/monerod-tori2p

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Idk about moneropedia

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Excuse me sir dont you run a forejo ????

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> nah im racist

<3​21bob321:monero.social> We can work out later

<3​21bob321:monero.social> So is diego paying syn 4 ripple too?

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> yes

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> as the only non-poor and/or non-stingy here

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Or ccs.getmonero.org/proposals/rehrar-help-out.html the fingering of the pulse

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Or we create fcmp style slush fund for website

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> I decided to make some redesign while I'm porting:

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…ero.social/nhyMtamZAoozLWputWDCLsFo

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> hope you guys enjoy the new look

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Looks extra private

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Redacted for security reasons

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> proof that astro is best ^

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Show dark mode

<h​ardenedsteel:monero.social> move everything to docs

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> All user guides?

<h​ardenedsteel:monero.social> no more hugo vs astro discussion

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> What? I'm getting very conflicting messages here

<h​ardenedsteel:monero.social> /s

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…/kernal.eu/QrzSWsuOqMYCvPaHHYePKCUE

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> Wrote a script that will port the pages and remove most of redundant code. Sometimes formatting for small things will break so I replaced them with 'TODO'. Anyways, I haven't had much time to work on it today, and I am currently busy with other things. Just giving a progress update

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…/kernal.eu/ArKXJwbSmNIKjPdQdtlCLQGB

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> There is still quite a lot that can be abstracted, just need to fiddle a little with the structure and CSS once I port everything. Because all of the CSS is custom, there is quite a lot of redundancy, although this is not the main goal of the port, so I'll delay that until the end

user guides like recreating wallet are quite useful

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…ero.social/EjPTgnYiBHaDMnvjsOCKCjHd

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> i18n with dynamic routes were easier than expected so I think i will manage to migrate all the translations in the port

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Create a contribute guide for astro too. Lets see what degree we need to use.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> I like your old redesign