<d​iego:cypherstack.com> alright everyone, so we have an update here.

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> 1. syntheticbird has completed his demo. It's gud.

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> 2. recanmann has decided not to complete the Hugo project and returned the money

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> 3. I've redone my design in light mode: figma.com/design/OuY892nD4zD1CEQDvC…y)?node-id=0-1&t=WChf40qLM6EGubbi-1

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Demo when?

<3​21bob321:monero.social> We can pay 4 ripple

<h​ardenedsteel:monero.social> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…ero.social/cCGAfJojOcLVBZeNsxVUjONv

<h​ardenedsteel:monero.social> why? delist is only for EEA

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> I guess thats an important distinction (?)

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Hm, the notice doesnt seem to mention delisting of any trade pairs (such as xmr/eur)

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Just delisting users.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> so does this mean that users outside of eea will still have access to xmr/eur?

<h​ardenedsteel:monero.social> most likely

<h​ardenedsteel:monero.social> > we will halt trading and deposits of all XMR markets (XMR/USD, XMR/EUR, XMR/BTC, XMR/USDT) for clients registered in the EEA.

<h​ardenedsteel:monero.social> jlai.lu/post/11049886

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> Did you bring it up to them? Any news?

<h​ardenedsteel:monero.social> yes i did but i think my mail went into their spam folder

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> It is a great opportunity for them to offer blockchain stats like lm's proprietary explorer does. We don't have anything like that on our side. That is open source, that is.

<h​ardenedsteel:monero.social> like this one? blockchair.com/bitcoin

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> No. localmonero.co/blocks/stats

<h​ardenedsteel:monero.social> i dont think they would add a feature that is doesn't exist for any coin

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> Gay. Haha.

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> I'll push for someone to come up with something similar or reverse engineer LM's explorer until I get it. Some day...

<3​21bob321:monero.social> if localmonero is closed, why gate keep it

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Can we list

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> - xmr.directory

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> - monerica

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> - proxysto.re

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> (ill open prs)

<3​21bob321:monero.social> last one i know works

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Proxy store is officially recommended by tuta and others

<b​asses:matrix.org> not monerica

<h​ardenedsteel:monero.social> monero-project/monero-site #2117

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Why

<b​asses:matrix.org> check monero main room, I @ you

<b​asses:matrix.org> scoll down after that to see what I replied with

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> is it a confirmed scam?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> and its not a verified listing

<3​21bob321:monero.social> doesnt monerica have 5000 domains?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> I'm sure they checked every last one of them /s

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> what ya gonna do about xmrbazaar? Those ads are posted by users

<3​21bob321:monero.social> ban doug

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Its not out job to cancel an aggregator because they listed something that we don't like. Is monerica a drug website? is xmrbazaar?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> We have ppl on monero.social matrix making porn groups. Does that mean we shouldnt list monero.social matrix?

<3​21bob321:monero.social> inclusive

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Rando would say no to listing mysu bcuz of monerochan

<b​asses:matrix.org> that's the whole point of xmrbazaar, does it allow drugs or anything illegal tho?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Yes, and no

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> It allows anything legal

<b​asses:matrix.org> foreseen, now mysu is dead

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> its not dead

<b​asses:matrix.org> ?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Its very much alive and has regular updates to new repo

<b​asses:matrix.org> the fork?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Yea

<3​21bob321:monero.social> depends where its legal

<b​asses:matrix.org> very new, can't recommend it to people

<3​21bob321:monero.social> or same dev, diff name

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> ?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Its literally the same shit with some small changes and updates

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Read a little code, would ya

<b​asses:matrix.org> talking about trust

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Its not lije there is 60k lines of obfuscated code added

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> the changes are minor and easy to read

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> If theres a backdoor, it was there b4 the fork

<b​asses:matrix.org> lol

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Anyway, has anyone ever looked through cryptwerks listings?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> For all I know, they list every DNM out there. (I've never looked thru the listings)

<b​asses:matrix.org> first thing on website is a scam betting/casino platform banner

<3​21bob321:monero.social> first things first i am a realist

<b​asses:matrix.org> how about we/community create an actual clean website open source, no affliate, legal in most countries, list actual useful products

<3​21bob321:monero.social> we can use google docs

<h​ardenedsteel:monero.social> why affiliate is problem and what are illegal stuff?

<3​21bob321:monero.social> use ublock and block elements

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> In my country, monero is illegal

<3​21bob321:monero.social> ban the country

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Remove the website altogether. Fkn criminals, all of you /s

<h​ardenedsteel:monero.social> banmonero.com

<b​asses:matrix.org> because it is mostly scams? drugs/casinos

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Casinos?

<3​21bob321:monero.social> we need a junkie to verify if the drugs are good

<3​21bob321:monero.social> then list

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Something wrong with casinos?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Verified

<h​ardenedsteel:monero.social> we can fund with ccs

<3​21bob321:monero.social> good idea

<b​asses:matrix.org> gambling etc

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> ?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Are you my lord and savior or smthn?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> If i want to gamble or make porn, thats my choice

<h​ardenedsteel:monero.social> gambling isnt illegal everywhere

<h​ardenedsteel:monero.social> i just worried if monerica is too political to list on getmonero

<b​asses:matrix.org> then find it on your own?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> it isnt illegal here. monero is illegal

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> And your morals don't apply to everyone

<b​asses:matrix.org> cryptocurrency you mean, to be specific?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> We should delist women, gays, and anything else that some demographic decides they dont like

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> I mean privacy coins, like monero

<h​ardenedsteel:monero.social> @rottenwheel:kernal.eu btw blockchair team will respond in the pull requests:

<h​ardenedsteel:monero.social> monero-project/monero-docs #72

<h​ardenedsteel:monero.social> monero-project/monero-site #2243

<h​ardenedsteel:monero.social> Lead Developer*

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> And monerochan. Cant list any software that has monerochan in it

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> Will respond, or will not respond?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> We should delist stack wallet. It has an optional "chans" theme

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> Neither have any replies from them, yet, at least.

<h​ardenedsteel:monero.social> they responded to my mail

<h​ardenedsteel:monero.social> | I apologize for the delayed response. I have forwarded your message to our Lead Developer. He mentioned that he will respond directly in a pull request on GitHub regarding the mentioned issues.

<h​ardenedsteel:monero.social> |

<h​ardenedsteel:monero.social> | We will also work on enhancing our Monero Explorer ASAP.

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> plowsof: thoughts? monero-project/monero-site #2380

<b​asses:matrix.org> how is that relevant tho?

<b​asses:matrix.org> you know that they can just bust down Monero anytime like they did with samourai devs

<b​asses:matrix.org> you know the saying "don't make it easy for them"?

<h​ardenedsteel:monero.social> no way... comparing monero to samourai

<h​ardenedsteel:monero.social> and samourai wallet were developed like 1-2 people

<h​ardenedsteel:monero.social> it was non-custodial but not decentralized

<h​ardenedsteel:monero.social> they can take out getmonero.org yeah if that's what you're worried

<h​ardenedsteel:monero.social> it means delisting just because you dislike something isn't acceptable.

<b​asses:matrix.org> very different, I already gave a factual reasoning 🤷 it hurts more than being helpful for getmonero.org

<b​asses:matrix.org> is it an unnecessarily risk? yes

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Delist ofrn the

<3​21bob321:monero.social> n

<h​ardenedsteel:monero.social> how gambling is risk?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> We fund Russians on ccs.getmonero.org

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> and accept donations of any size

<b​asses:matrix.org> how it isn't?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> how is it*

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Is playing poker a crime?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> I see betting commercials every 9 mins

<b​asses:matrix.org> The Monero Project have any legal presence that have to comply with countires that impose sanctions?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Apply that logic to gambling

<b​asses:matrix.org> bruh???

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> ?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Is gambling sanctioned by NATO ?

<b​asses:matrix.org> idc about NATO

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> ?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> But u care about gambling?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> ^

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> you say this, then say you dont care abt nato

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Who is the "them" that you refer to?

<b​asses:matrix.org> yes, you asked me question as an individual, you can have whatever thoughts/opinions/beliefs

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> ^

<b​asses:matrix.org> I was also talking about getmonero.org as a project and their idea of financial privacy they are promoting, not politics, anything else, focus on the tech.

<b​asses:matrix.org> idk why everyone took it personally as if I'm taking away their rights, freeze peach etc

<b​asses:matrix.org> Anyone that have scrutiny on Monero and want it fuck up and find any execuses/build a case?

<b​asses:matrix.org> Anyone that have scrutiny on Monero and want it fuck up and find any excuses /build a case?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Build a case? "idc about nato or sanctions" tho

<h​ardenedsteel:monero.social> bit2me.com/buy-monero

<h​ardenedsteel:monero.social> EUR/XMR pair, i dont know if can be trusted

monero dot com use... moon?pay?

moonpay requires KYC iirc ignore, moonpay are kyc hungry (please upload a video/3d scan) the last time i checked them (6~months ago)

maybe an asterisk/reminder that xmr/fiat services require KYC e.g. for bit2me support.bit2me.com/en/support/solut…ify-my-bit2me-account-step-by-step-