<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Meeting in this room in exactly 4 weeks

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> diego plowsof mbll wasnt s*ucerr recently banned in other rooms? Or am i mistaking with someone else

somsone called sauce - method was banned recently

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> sauce-rr could be new 👀

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> Meeting here in 3h

<s​aucerr:matrix.org> Hey there! I wanted to let you know that I have a channel where I share some amazing Verified sauce and soft cashout methods. I also provide a Full WalkThrough to make things easier for you.

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<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> PLOWSOF

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> ATTACK BAN!!!!!

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> ^^^^ Diego Salazar: monerobull xmrscott ^^^^

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> now now

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> hear him out

lol

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> Meeting here in 50 minutes

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> I might miss it

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> my vote if on new design, light + dark mode, no circles, reduces/eliminated hero, orange (not red)/ rounded rectangle buttons

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> concave

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> second derivatives < 0

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> i'll be late too

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> if i get killed my vote is obviously new design dark + light, diego's design without circles (the rest is perfect)

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> which new design lol

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> if I am killed my vote is Diego's design which would have to be completed by someone else

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> alright guys, welcome to the #4th Monero website meeting: monero-project/meta #1096

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> today we have one goal and one goal only

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> A: figma.com/design/8g1qLe9iah7wWB72A2…ersion?node-id=0-1&node-type=canvas

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> B: figma.com/design/yT4JTUfvBkAsBDPNPJ…oncept?node-id=0-1&node-type=canvas

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> C: Keep current design but add darkmode / fresh new graphics

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> Please have a look at the designs before voting.

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> Reminder, my work is quite incomplete. There was a soft pause placed on it as we circled back to discussing whether a new design was wanted or desired in the first place. After the workgroup here wanted me to continue and make a light version, I did so. My version is not final, but it speaks to a direction we would be going toward.

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> Option A is simply current design uploaded on Figma though...

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…/kernal.eu/HRDrLgElLvecnlDLFPUiZrsQ

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> lol hold on

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> ..................................................................................................................

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> figma.com/design/OuY892nD4zD1CEQDvC…y)?node-id=0-1&t=KoAMdY5uGn7fCNWJ-1

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> this one

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> A: figma.com/design/OuY892nD4zD1CEQDvC…y)?node-id=0-1&t=KoAMdY5uGn7fCNWJ-1

<r​brunner7:monero.social> You tested we are awake? :)

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> i like the lightmode version so much more than the darkmode

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> @room

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> Do a @room on that poll message.

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> @room

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> take a look at this poll plz

<c​rz:matrix.org> Do we have screenshots?

<c​rz:matrix.org> :p

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> BRUV.

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> Scroll up and click on the figma links.

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> Jfc.

<c​rz:matrix.org> I just got pulled in with @ room lol

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…rstack.com/PeGRFnnCZUPRMjwizjykkCbz

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> here you go

<b​asses:matrix.org> ooo looks great

<b​asses:matrix.org> dark theme?

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> yes there's a dark theme version too

<r​brunner7:monero.social> "i like the lightmode version so much more than the darkmode" I agree with monerobull here ...

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> let me change the buttons :P

<c​rz:matrix.org> I would do the lightmode, but add switch for darkmode.

<b​asses:matrix.org> should be set automatically depending on OS theme preference

<b​asses:matrix.org> developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/@media/prefers-color-scheme

<b​asses:matrix.org> seeing Deigo on figma live lol

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Why you finger printing me sir!

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> Almost done.

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Hi

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> im a federal agent, I'll take over syntheticbird during his questioning.

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> alright that''s good enough for now

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…rstack.com/IGyFrApJKaAHgOOpAMOSspEk

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> crz: ^

<c​rz:matrix.org> I do like the layout, still the header GFX could use some work.

<c​rz:matrix.org> Not nit-picking here :p

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> The header was the thing that was the least done, yeah

<c​rz:matrix.org> It's the most important thing people first see.

<r​brunner7:monero.social> Is it still to be decided what exactly will fill the empty square below "Start using Monero" on the homepage?

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> I understand, yes. A lot more work is going to go into the hero portion

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Lets hope there is a decision this meeting or we have to wait till next ccs

<b​asses:matrix.org> we should use monochrome icons in the footer

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> Yes. As I mentioned, I paused all work on my design because of accusations of padding my CCS time for something that wasn't decided yet.

<r​brunner7:monero.social> I see, thanks.

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> This meeting is more or less to see if people like my design enough to carry forward with it as a good use of my CCS hours.

<c​rz:matrix.org> Yeah i'm designer also here :p so just looking @ it for first time

<3​21bob321:monero.social> So your the design of the janka old ccs proposal?

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> i like the overall feel but it definitely needs some graphics

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> I'd love your feedback. Feel free to poke around the Figma proper.

<c​rz:matrix.org> In crypto world for 15y+ now, as designer/coder. And I always liked the XMR website.

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> I agree. hammerman designed had some well placed icons and graphics in background.

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> No. That was hammerman's design.

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> Thank you! That's my design that's live now. :)

<b​asses:matrix.org> Hero image looks better on light mode

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> but I prefer overall Diego's basis

<b​asses:matrix.org> also need to find a better slogan than "Monero means money" but not that related to current design discussion

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Rip doug

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Monero means digital cash ©️

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> I also agree strongly on this. The Monero community has latched onto that phrase because of Daniel Kim's excellent presentation.

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> But I'm not sure I like it for an informal project slogan

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Monero from the esperanto word *monero* means in esperanto money, the object used to carry out a transaction between...

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> I mean I think even 5 words is too much

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Monero

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Like

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> Monero means coin, not money.

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Cher

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> the project was originally bitmonero (bitCOIN)

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> was shortened to Monero

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Bitcorn

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Bytemonero?

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> .

<b​asses:matrix.org> Monero is Bitcoin but private

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> nah. I don't the like the idea that we identify ourselves as nemesis of some other

<3​21bob321:monero.social> I would link it to buttcoin

<b​asses:matrix.org> /s

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Wouldnt*

<c​rz:matrix.org> I would not say anything about bitcoin

<c​rz:matrix.org> monero already got nice meme/community strong thing

<r​brunner7:monero.social> "Monero means coin, not money." Yes, right. Spoils that slogan a bit.

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> so, so far it looks like the sentiment is I should continue with my design.

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> Also, I don't know if you guys saw, but some time ago the current site was ported over to Astro.

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Always has been

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> github.com/SyntheticBird45/monero-site-astro

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> thanks to syntheticbird

<r​brunner7:monero.social> How far did the Hugo rewrite go?

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> live demo

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> xi2nhkuzm2hzgyedprs3n65wmudrq4rekbzire67oomiwk5x5h6w7nqd.onion

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> Not far. recanman decided to not move forward with it

<r​brunner7:monero.social> Oh.

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> Indeed.

<r​brunner7:monero.social> Whatever that means. Probably not much.

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> I don't know if janaka is still around or cares, but it seems we're back to Astro, and I'll make sure we firmly stay there if you're still interested in working with us.

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> at the very least, JPEG-XL is the superior format and AVIF will never be a real codec, myself, and some others (including rbrunner7 are pro Astro and will help with the site. So we'll be moving to Astro.

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> I can't wait to announce on reddit we're going to rewrite getmonero in javascript

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> and see the reaction

<b​asses:matrix.org> right?

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Seem worked

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> In short, unless there are EXTREMELY compelling reasons given now or after the fact (and they should be very very very compelling, not just "I wasn't there", we are now, definitively, moving forward with a plan of Astro, and a design that I will make (that can be tweaked by the community later, of course)

<b​asses:matrix.org> top one D*ead post for a whole year

<3​21bob321:monero.social> But repo is rm -rf

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> It was going well but I unfortunately was very busy at the time

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> I might still have a local copy

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> Not pinging you to blame, but just if you wanted to say something. :)

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> If you agree with this statement, give it an emoji thumbs up, or an IRC "ye ye" or whatever.

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> It may or may not be admissible in "we had consensus, trust me bro" court

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> yes the meeting was pre-announced on multiple channels and we have reached clear consensus

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> yes, the meeting was pre-announced on multiple channels and we have reached clear consensus

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> oh god, but what if we haven't?!?!?

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> I jest. I'll cool it with the nonsense.

I wonder who is the nonsense

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> Alright guys, I'll get to work then.

<r​brunner7:monero.social> Word.

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Dword.

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> Ok anything else?

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> Not from me.

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> can we talk about CCS website?

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> i mean

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> it could get a refresh

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> with tags

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Do you imagine? Clear ways to identify proposal with upfront payments

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> The front end or the whole shebang?

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Diego Salazar I think both but I'm not brave enough to fight ofrnxmr on the back end side

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> I can update the front end as part of the style change, sure.

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> I designed the current CCS system (backend and frontend) given strict parameters by core. It had to be git based was the primary one.

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> I think the navigation could get an overhaul for end users. The current frontend is completely detached from the original spirit of CCS (since a lot of precedent has been set). I have some idea in mind I could draft

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> Please do.

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> Alright, this concludes today's meeting, diego, i guess we do the next meeting when you have some progress to report?

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> Sure thing.

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> Ok, thanks for coming and voting everyone, I'll see you in the next meeting which will be announced here and on reddit/town again

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Np

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> thanks mbll

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> (syn, plz post meme)

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> logs and meeting results are in the github issue monero-project/meta #1096

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…ero.social/cmaSyBmlrulbOxteLxIcsiqN

<b​asses:matrix.org> See? easy stuff no need to argue about nonesense "dark theme evil", "javascript in framework sus!!" Not everyone is informed how things usually work.

<b​asses:matrix.org> conclusion: democracy often bad

<b​asses:matrix.org> See? easy stuff no need to argue about nonesense "dark theme evil", "javascript in framework sus!!" Not everyone is informed about how things usually work.

<b​asses:matrix.org> conclusion: democracy often bad

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> it was all easy stuff four months ago when we started too

<3​21bob321:monero.social> There was a ccs to redo ccs

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> and had ccs accept the ccs redo ccs ?

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Nope

"I can't wait to announce on reddit we're going to rewrite getmonero in javascript" <- *arg* :D

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> I blame ofrnxmr

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> /s

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Become war and peace

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> thx vthor cc Diego Salazar can i make a reddit post about the ongoing change

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> Sure. Permission isn't really needed.

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> ethically I prefer not binding someone to some expectations on social media without their permission

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> ye. Thanks. I don't mind.

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Isnt that mbll’s job?

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Finger of the pulse stuff

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> sshhhhhhhhhhhh i need karma

"thx vthor cc Diego Salazar can i make a reddit post about the ongoing change" <- what did I do? :/

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> vthor you make me remind I should have asked at the end of the meeting

:D you welcome then

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Just ask mbll to approve

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> dont need. It's over i'm a r/monero mod now

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Your in the system