<redsh4de:matrix.org> any ideas? that part def could use some work

<redsh4de:matrix.org> also would appreciate if anyone with time can go through the website and provide UX feedback - was really helpful to improve the downloads page yesterday

<redsh4de:matrix.org> mobile style for the category cards used in knowledge base / monero tools

<redsh4de:matrix.org> mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/matrix.org/tFAXxTdeIfCtxXnffDIjtOLs.png (image.png)

<redsh4de:matrix.org> library page draft

<redsh4de:matrix.org> mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/matrix.org/tHZWByGPcJHcGKzUzFxGrkqU.png (image.png)

<redsh4de:matrix.org> did i cook or what

<redsh4de:matrix.org> mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/matrix.org/jWOeYtdadYnykViZKHMJSPUh.png (image.png)

<unnamed:kek.pm> @redsh4de:matrix.org: mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/kek.pm/x3UWuQfZPvPxK9NHA4V55WdwtIOnYws0.jpg (11349.jpg)

<redsh4de:matrix.org> Alright

<redsh4de:matrix.org> beta.monerodevs.org

<redsh4de:matrix.org> done, all routes have content

<redsh4de:matrix.org> cleared out the placeholder translations

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> the homepage: with the talknof hero change etc, what do you (and others) think about simplifying the landing page like bitcoin.org

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Meaning dropping some of those 1 2 3 1 2 3 etc and having whatismonero downlaod etc in the hero

<redsh4de:matrix.org> Might work, user would see the main options immediately

<redsh4de:matrix.org> About Monero / Downloads / Buy Monero

<redsh4de:matrix.org> but at that point the entire index page layout would need to be redesigned i think

<redsh4de:matrix.org> cc @diego:cypherstack.com

<redsh4de:matrix.org> @redsh4de:matrix.org: not just the hero section

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Like, (from bottom to top)

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Resources: we dont need the resources section - docs is in the footer and workgroups, and faq is in the menu

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> start using monero:[... more lines follow, see mrelay.p2pool.observer/e/69q_7NsKMGJFN2JV ]

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> This also reduces duplication on the homepage

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Atp just an idea, but i think it could work to greatly simplify the experience and focus on signal

<redsh4de:matrix.org> true abt the resources

<redsh4de:matrix.org> if going that route, would be for deferring the start using monero items to the hero section with the buttons like on bitcoin.org

<redsh4de:matrix.org> then the start using monero section would need to be removed/replaced with something else[... more lines follow, see mrelay.p2pool.observer/e/vpng7NsKYVpLbUM1 ]

<redsh4de:matrix.org> maybe so there are 3 sections, under about Monero we could feature the 3 latest blog posts or something? in a row, would keep the page dynamic

<redsh4de:matrix.org> or a get involved section linking to hangouts or workgroups

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Get involved probably best

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Do you mind doing a trial of that?

<redsh4de:matrix.org> Not at all, few mins

<redsh4de:matrix.org> wont be pretty just rough layout changes

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Good

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> :P

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Ugly is my nickname

<redsh4de:matrix.org> mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/matrix.org/mmhaIENQNmNEmHHOWaeaRDGF.png (image.png)

<redsh4de:matrix.org> the start using monero part should be kept tbh its very helpful

<redsh4de:matrix.org> eyecatcher

<redsh4de:matrix.org> only thing i ended up changing was buttons and the resource section

<ofrnxmr> Start using monero is a duplicate of the hero

<ofrnxmr> "Spend monero" merchant link being the difference

<ofrnxmr> id keep (change) section to link accept monero, spend monero

<diego:cypherstack.com> hey ho, I've returned

<redsh4de:matrix.org> welcome back

<redsh4de:matrix.org> i deployed all the routes today, no blank pages left

<diego:cypherstack.com> looking

<diego:cypherstack.com> I see the discussion of redoing the index page

<diego:cypherstack.com> I don't mind it. I think what I designed is a good bridge between functional and aesthetic

<diego:cypherstack.com> but if someone has better ideas, please feel free to give it a go

<redsh4de:matrix.org> yeah ive been experimenting with the variants - i think what's live right now is good

<redsh4de:matrix.org> but hero definitely needs to be upgraded

<redsh4de:matrix.org> and maybe changing the resources section to a get involved section, because its at the very bottom and the footer already has the resources column next to it like ofrn pointed out

<redsh4de:matrix.org> look through the pages on the site, lmk if you have any improvement ideas

<diego:cypherstack.com> goddamn that drop down menu is sexy

<redsh4de:matrix.org> the header one? yee

<redsh4de:matrix.org> doing the full width instead of the individual cards was a good call

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> @diego:cypherstack.com: Its not getting rid of your design, just playing with trimming and modifying content a lil bit

<diego:cypherstack.com> @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: any changes and I will throw a tantrum

<diego:cypherstack.com> I jest, let's do it

<redsh4de:matrix.org> what would u wanna change in the hero? would it be the background image mainly?

<diego:cypherstack.com> ofrn will not rest until the size is reduced because he values small things, on himself and elsewhere

<diego:cypherstack.com> I'm fine with reducing it, but then the thought process behind what it will show needs to change a bit too.

<ofrnxmr> The download and buy monero buttons moved to the hero

<redsh4de:matrix.org> if its smaller would probably have to be something like a

<redsh4de:matrix.org> [text] [image]

<redsh4de:matrix.org> layout right?

<redsh4de:matrix.org> or [image] [text] in a row

<ofrnxmr> @ofrnxmr: Resources are in the footer (and menu)

<diego:cypherstack.com> @ofrnxmr: sir, CTAs are still good

<ofrnxmr> I think this is already a win win > <@redsh4de:matrix.org> mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/matrix.org/mmhaIENQNmNEmHHOWaeaRDGF.png (image.png)

<ofrnxmr> Since you dont have to scroll around to find downloads button

<redsh4de:matrix.org> i mean, the downloads area is already p visible in the header as well

<ofrnxmr> @redsh4de:matrix.org: I use mobile, so not for me

<redsh4de:matrix.org> true. but if a user clicks on get started, the get started section's 1st step does link them to the downloads page directly - and to the community section with the mobile wallet options as well

<ofrnxmr> Yea, but who's really clicking get started to find a wallet

<redsh4de:matrix.org> well the hamburger menu is there in either case as well... either of the buttons end up linking to the downloads eventually (what-is-monero CTA at the bottom & get-started 1st step)

<ofrnxmr> I like this if start using monero section had link to accept xmr, spend xmr (and buy xmr?) > <@redsh4de:matrix.org> mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/matrix.org/mmhaIENQNmNEmHHOWaeaRDGF.png (image.png)

<ofrnxmr> and there was that new get involved section

<redsh4de:matrix.org> but yeah, "Download" is not in your face, it kind of subtly encourages the user to inform themselves first which arguably is a good thing

<ofrnxmr> The first button is what is monero :P

<redsh4de:matrix.org> not so subtle

<diego:cypherstack.com> You wouldn't download a Monero

<diego:cypherstack.com> that's what we'll use

<ofrnxmr> @diego:cypherstack.com: i pictures one of those anti-drug or drinking and driving propaganda videos

<redsh4de:matrix.org> @diego:cypherstack.com: is this a thing? i might be remembering wrong but think i saw something somewhere

<redsh4de:matrix.org> if it isnt it should be

<diego:cypherstack.com> It was a silly thing "You wouldn't download a car."

<diego:cypherstack.com> or something

<diego:cypherstack.com> youtube.com/watch?v=PLzy-IJg4_4

<ofrnxmr> An anti-piracy thing, yeah?

<redsh4de:matrix.org> the page if we replace the "Monero Resources" with "Get Involved" - fan of this change myself

<redsh4de:matrix.org> mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/matrix.org/JEaWXPqoUtmFSWwvZqgcMFLq.png (image.png)

<ofrnxmr> @diego:cypherstack.com: This is gold

<redsh4de:matrix.org> as Resources is already there in the footer linking to docs, just would have to add FAQ there as well

<diego:cypherstack.com> @ofrnxmr: We need to commission someone to make the same thing but for Monero

<ofrnxmr> Get involved is beautiful

<diego:cypherstack.com> @ofrnxmr: I like the change

<redsh4de:matrix.org> nice, consensus!

<redsh4de:matrix.org> also btw, this is the 404 page

<redsh4de:matrix.org> mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/matrix.org/MpSCnbBnIHSxFcLADmGQeOZJ.png (image.png)

<ofrnxmr> @redsh4de:matrix.org: On the "get involved" add :P. I still prefer the 3 button hero

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> And keep in mind that my views are based solely on mobile experience

<redsh4de:matrix.org> get involved version deployed

<redsh4de:matrix.org> @ofrnxmr: yeah hero overall needs to be reworked

<redsh4de:matrix.org> but i think the overall sections are good now

<diego:cypherstack.com> clicked through everything. Looks good!

<diego:cypherstack.com> one ofrnxmr in the hand is worth two in the bush

<diego:cypherstack.com> @ofrnxmr: this one?

<diego:cypherstack.com> @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: or this one?

<redsh4de:matrix.org> two ofrnxmrs

<redsh4de:matrix.org> i think out of all pages this is the weakest one visually

<redsh4de:matrix.org> beta.monerodevs.org/get-started/contribute

<redsh4de:matrix.org> very card heavy

<redsh4de:matrix.org> in a way that doesn't make it easy to scan

<diego:cypherstack.com> We can maybe separate into a couple of different pages

<redsh4de:matrix.org> similar to how its done for Tools & Knowledge Base?

<redsh4de:matrix.org> Or more compact

<diego:cypherstack.com> I actually think Knowledge Base isn't a bad template here. Support Network, Develop, and Donate could easily be their own pages. Not super huge ones, but fleshed out.

<redsh4de:matrix.org> Yeah def

<redsh4de:matrix.org> cause right now its a bit of a information overlod