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gingeropolous
yanmaani, ok, so basically you would just have to run a bittorent node so you can populate the dht with your information that contains the monero p2p info
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yanmaani
gingeropolous: Yes, but those are very easy to implement and there's libraries for them
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yanmaani
It's about on the same level of complexity as a HTTP client
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gingeropolous
and theoretically, as soon as you are operating a bittorent node with monero p2p information, the entire bittorent network now has that monero p2p info
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gingeropolous
because of the dht magic
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gingeropolous
?
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gingeropolous
yanmaani, is that how it works?
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yanmaani
gingeropolous: don't really understand
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yanmaani
if you have a connection to 1 node in the DHT network, it means you can find any other node in there
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yanmaani
for a given key, this maps to a specific cluster of nodes, basically
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yanmaani
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Wolf0
gingeropolous: when's the last time you seen fluffypony?
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Wolf0
I swear it's easier to get an audience with the Queen
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yanmaani
as for the details on how bittorent DHT works, check out
bittorrent.org/beps/bep_0005.html (spec) and
github.com/jech/dht (an implementation, ~3kloc)
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gingeropolous
thanks yanmaani . im always at a suboptimal level of understanding some things
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gingeropolous
Wolf0, a while if i reckon
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Wolf0
gingeropolous: I'm looking for him
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Steven_M
Hi all :-)
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Wolf0
hey
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lza_menace
[04:15:21] yes
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Steven_M
[04:53:22] lza_menace: Sorry, got held up. When I churn, I always send my XMR to new wallets, but does churning work when you send the XMR back to the same wallet?
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lza_menace
[04:53:43] yes
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Steven_M
[04:55:27] how many churns per real transaction, should I make?
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lza_menace
[04:58:20] idk, up to you. i don't churn at all
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lza_menace
[04:58:58] i'll occassionally consolidate and move funds to new wallets so i don't maintain ancient wallets with old restore blocks
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Steven_M
[05:12:08] lza_menace: okay, thanks for the info! :-)
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gingeropolous
[11:47:33] and we all know the power of defaults!
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hyc
[11:47:50] seems excessive. if DHT works why do we need DNS?
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hyc
[11:48:23] or do you expect that some networks will be filtered/blocked so only DNS can be relied on?
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hyc
[11:52:36] fwiw I like the idea of DHT and getting rid of libunbound from our build
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hyc
[11:52:49] it has caused more than its fair share of bugs
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hyc
[11:53:38] but there are trust questions to resolve. we use DNS to announce software updates now
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hyc
[11:54:06] seems like we still need some centralized trust to handle these things
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gingeropolous
[12:01:34] i was just suggesting that option to not radically change what has worked
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gingeropolous
[12:01:46] phase-in, as it were. but sure.
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gingeropolous
[12:02:15] or perhaps its the first in line, and dns moves to #2 with hardcoded at #3
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gingeropolous
[12:04:42] re: dns as update announcements, that seems to be a different problem / mechanism
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yanmaani
[12:09:38] hyc: You can use DHT with signed keys
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yanmaani
[12:09:43] I don't know how well-supported it is
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yanmaani
[12:09:46] But why not flood?
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yanmaani
[12:10:07] Have a protocol message new_version, sign that with some key, gossip it over the network
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yanmaani
[12:10:13] (like bitcoin's alert key)
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sgp_
[15:56:26] luigi1111: do you have permission to add ops over any #monero- channel? I'm trying to set up #monero-space which isn't registered and has no ops as far as I can tlel
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luigi1111
[16:11:11] I think fluffy is the only one atm
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sgp_
[16:25:00] okay ty
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Mochi101
[16:25:50] So centralized...
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Mochi101
[16:25:52] ;)
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Epsilon
[16:26:59] If anyone isn't busy I still would like an invite for the #Monero Matrix room if possible
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