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dANBs[m]
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cjac
okay, so I think maybe I'm in sync? How do I check?
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cjac
/dev/mapper/vg00-bitmonero 295G 125G 155G 45% /home/cjac/.bitmonero
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cjac
but maybe not...
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cjac
The wallet's refresh-from-block-height setting is higher than the daemon's height: this may mean your wallet will skip over transactions
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ofrnxmr[m]
./monerod status
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Mochi101
Wrong window ofrnxmr[m]
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yoshi7777m
:wq
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plowsof11
uparrowuparrowuparrowuparrowuparrow
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copenhagen_bram[
lol
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cjac
plowsof11: I hope it makes you happy that I added a DNAT rule for port 18080
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plowsof11
i can finally sleep cjac, i've been worried sick, thank you <3
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cjac
you're welcome. I thought that might have been the case.
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plowsof11
now.. lets mine those blocks ⛏️
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plowsof11
thanks cjac for real :D
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cjac
sure thing. Should I run monerod in my DC instead of my basement? Latency and availability is better out there, but there's more compute in here.
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cjac
no SSDs out there, but there is an array of 8x10KRPM SAS drives, which are pretty performant
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plowsof11
i dont have much of an idea,, only that monerod and ssd sounds good
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copenhagen_bram[
<Mochi101> "Wrong window ofrnxmr..." <- oh god i'm having flashbacks
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copenhagen_bram[
don't ever use terminator terminal emulator
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copenhagen_bram[
there's a simple shortcut that sends commands to all tabs
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copenhagen_bram[
i had it on for a while before i realized
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copenhagen_bram[
one of those tabs was weechat
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aog
is there a way to add monero ledger wallet as view only in monero GUI?
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aog
would like to avoid opening the hardware wallet every time I want to check funds
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monerobull[m]
Maybe there is some way to extract the viewkey but not sure if there is one in the gui
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KernelCustard[m]
<copenhagen_bram[> "don't ever use terminator..." <- i'm currently using something called Warp on my Mac, its absolutely fucking beautiful
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KernelCustard[m]
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KernelCustard[m]
also i know people will say "ugh a mac" but i got it from work for free so i ain't gonna say no lol
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aog
monerobull[m]: I can only use the public view key as the private one is not extractable
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aog
although when I try to restore a wallet w/ keys in monero gui, it wants the private view key
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aog
what is the public view key for then?
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aog
can I use it on an explorer? what's it's purpose if it cannot be used to create a view only wallet in monero
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paalaa[m]
Ofrnxmr, can u come dm with me?
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paalaa[m]
Plowsof, can u come dm with me?
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ofrnxmr[m]
Replied in dm
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DanIsnotthemanBr
Sounds exciting
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monerobull[m]
The ledger 25th custom word?
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paalaa[m]
Sir if the new advanced user feature is converted from 24 words to 25 words, after I reset the ledger hardware wallet, can I access the same monero assets with just 24 words without +25 words in ledger hardware wallet? I don't mean passphrease in ledger hw. I mean the seed phrease (advanced users) for just the monero in ledger hardware wallet.
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paalaa[m]
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paalaa[m]
Please read the seed recovery (advanced users) in my sent link. If you read it, you understand me. Sir, please read my article from top to bottom to understand it better.
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paalaa[m]
...(truncated)
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monerobull[m]
Word 25 is basically an offset
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paalaa[m]
Sir if the new advanced user feature is converted from 24 words to 25 words, after I reset the ledger hardware wallet, can I access the same monero assets with just 24 words without +25 words in ledger hardware wallet? I don't mean passphrease in ledger hw. I mean the seed phrease (advanced users) for just the... (full message at <
libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/do…b7c791ffc809aefb2a2dacee6d8a1c0f233>)
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monerobull[m]
24 words = Address 1
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monerobull[m]
24 + 1 = Address 2 (basically a different wallet)
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paalaa[m]
A or B?
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paalaa[m]
> <@monerobull:matrix.org> 24 words = Address 1
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paalaa[m]
> 24 + 1 = Address 2 (basically a different wallet)
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paalaa[m]
No. I do not passphrase. Read my written.
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paalaa[m]
Sir if the new advanced user feature is converted from 24 words to 25 words, after I reset the ledger hardware wallet, can I access the same monero assets with just 24 words without +25 words in ledger hardware wallet? I don't mean passphrease in ledger hw. I mean the seed phrease (advanced users) for just the monero in ledger hardware wallet.
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monerobull[m]
Holy shit translate it with deeple or something
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paalaa[m]
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paalaa[m]
Please read the seed recovery (advanced users) in my sent link. If you read it, you understand me. Sir, please read my article from top to bottom to understand it better.
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monerobull[m]
We have no idea what you are trying to say
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monerobull[m]
plowsof:
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paalaa[m]
...(truncated)
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paalaa[m]
* do not mean passphrase. Read
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paalaa[m]
monerobull[m]: Read my written by understanding.
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paalaa[m]
Ofrnxmr sir. Answer me.
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paalaa[m]
Sir if the new advanced user feature is converted from 24 words to 25 words, after I reset the ledger hardware wallet, can I access the same monero assets with just 24 words without +25 words in ledger hardware wallet? I don't mean passphrease in ledger hw. I mean the seed phrease (advanced users) for just the... (full message at <
libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/do…b7c791ffc809aefb2a2dacee6d8a1c0f233>)
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paalaa[m]
Plowsof sir and ofrnxmr sir.
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rbrunner
monerobull[m]: This is about the 5th or 6th time somebody nags here with this 24 words versus 25 words story, with various user names, but always in the same style
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rbrunner
Very hard to believe in the meantime it's in good faith, IMHO
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monerobull[m]
I know, i tagged plowsof to mute them again
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jozsef[m]
Known bot. Been kicked out of dev already.
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Save_G[m]
from mastering Monero:
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Save_G[m]
"The maximum block size is (2 * median size of the last 100 blocks), at which point the entire coinbase-reward is withheld."
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Save_G[m]
Does this mean that the blocksize is actually caped to that or can miners theoretically add infinite transaction after there is no block reward for that block anyway then?
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sech1
it's capped
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sech1
other nodes will not accept blocks larger than 2*median_size
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spackle_xmr[m]
For example, the absolute maximum size of the next block right now is 600kB (twice the 300kB minimum median value).
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ofrnxmr[m]
rbrunner: the 15th or 16th*
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sech1
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Save_G[m]
thanks
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DataHoarder
10:19:19 <aog> is there a way to add monero ledger wallet as view only in monero GUI?
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DataHoarder
10:28:24 <monerobull[m]> Maybe there is some way to extract the viewkey but not sure if there is one in the gui
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DataHoarder
yes you can
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DataHoarder
but you need to alter monero so it prints that view key on extraction
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DataHoarder
across the rest of the code it's null'd
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DataHoarder
so you need to create a manual view-only wallet that way
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DataHoarder
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DataHoarder
then you have monero address + private view key to create the view-only wallet
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DataHoarder
this will output into monero logs, not console
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DataHoarder
and ofc, set secret spend key to empty or all 0's depending on the wallet
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voidbitz
does anyone know what the equivalent word in monero for satoshi....eg, what units are the decimal parts of monero? What is .001 xmr?
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hyc
millinero
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hyc
metric unit prefixes, nero suffix
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voidbitz
thank you
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Save_G[m]
<voidbitz> "does anyone know what the..." <- piconero is the smallest unit
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voidbitz
thank you Save_G
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Save_G[m]
so people say piconero instead of satoshi
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Save_G[m]
0.000000000001XMR vs
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Save_G[m]
0.00000001BTC
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Save_G[m]
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Save_G[m]
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voidbitz
awesome....easy, found a chart of the metric prefixes
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Save_G[m]
yeah I think sticking to the standard metric prefixes is much smarter then giving the smallest unit it's own name
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Save_G[m]
also it would be like 10 nano btc
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voidbitz
more efficient it would seem
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Save_G[m]
doesn´t make any sense
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hyc
bitcoin was never more than half-baked
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voidbitz
seems that pico would align with this:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metric_prefix
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Save_G[m]
voidbitz: that's what you get taught first high school semester in europe
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voidbitz
:)...half baked, kinda like the BTC maxi's. Still a great combination of technologies of the times. Anyways, everything has its purpose and utility
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hyc
it was a prototype. lots of good ideas, not really workable in practice. needed more design thought.
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hyc
cryptonote filled in a lot of the blanks
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voidbitz
agreed
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plowsof11
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jozsef[m]
But just enough to be dangeeous.
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gingeropolous
gah, whats that math trick that lets you avoid the conditional like "if x = 30 return 1"
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gingeropolous
oh yeah modulo
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gingeropolous
nah thats not it
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plowsof11
im trying to think
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plowsof11
case/switch?
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plowsof11
oh 'math' - don't ask me xD
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sech1
it's a programming trick, and there are many of them
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sech1
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plowsof11
oh thanks
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erembax[m]
I'm trying to mine on p2pool mini from the gui. The gui tells me I'm mining but I'm definitely not.
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erembax[m]
I'm trying to troubleshoot by running the command "./p2pool" from /opt/monero
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erembax[m]
I get an error message: Log failed to open p2pool.log and some usage information
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erembax[m]
If I run ./p2pool --host 127.0.0.1 --wallet MYADDRESS I still get the error message it does appear to start syncing
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erembax[m]
does the command have to include all of this:
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erembax[m]
./p2pool --host 127.0.0.1 --rpc-port 18081 --zmq-port 18083 --wallet YOUR_WALLET_ADDRESS --stratum 0.0.0.0:3333 --p2p 0.0.0.0:37889
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erembax[m]
I do not have anything related to zmq set in my monerod config file, nor do I know what a stratum server is or why I should specify --p2P
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erembax[m]
regarding the p2pool.log file, I can see it has different permissions that the p2pool file:
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erembax[m]
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 2862648 Jul 8 16:50 p2pool
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erembax[m]
-rw------- 1 root root 6262 Dec 8 22:23 p2pool.log
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sech1
it can't open p2pool.log because only root has permissions for it
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sech1
what's the full path to p2pool binary? what are file permissions on that folder and what user do you run it under?
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erembax[m]
/opt/monero/p2pool
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erembax[m]
the file permissions for /opt/monero are
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erembax[m]
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Dec 8 22:23 monero
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erembax[m]
I tried to run p2pool under my regular user
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erembax[m]
ok I made myself owner or p2pool.log and now I don't have the error anymore
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erembax[m]
Ok, I think I know what's going on. I'm running p2pool as a regular user, which means it cannot write to /opt/monero because it's owned by root.
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wormrobot
move it out of /opt/ and put it in ~/
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wormrobot
thats the first step in my opinion
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Save_G[m]
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wormrobot
Save_G[m]: why isnt monero in there
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Save_G[m]
why is centralised etherium and bitcoin on there but not Monero has anyone talked to the people running the cryptoanarchy movement?
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yoshi7777m
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yoshi7777m
homie got ukraine flags on his twitter tho....good luck
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yoshi7777m
it doesn't look like some organization or collective, just some dude
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wormrobot
yoshi7777m: ill make a pull request about adding monero
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erembax[m]
<wormrobot> "move it out of /opt/ and put..." <- yes, did that and now i can mine to p2pool from gui :-)
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wormrobot
erembax[m]: nice!
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wormrobot
erembax[m]: was that your initial purpose?
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wormrobot
yoshi7777m: just some dude <--- hahahaha
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erembax[m]
everything is in ~ now, daemon launches at start, p2pool mining works all is good
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erembax[m]
<wormrobot> "erembax: was that your initial..." <- just mini to p2pool mini with the gui
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as2333
speaking of cryptoanarchy, I had missed this little comedy
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as2333
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as2333
"For now it's listed for sale on just one cryptocurrency exchange, FTX,"
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as2333
"its 250 million coins, at around $69 each, are currently worth almost $17 billion dollars in total."
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erembax[m]
wormrobot: are there any recommended p2pool startup flags that are recommended when mining with the gui?
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dANBs[m]
rmonteiro[xmpp]: Hi I'm new here
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zone117x
is there a known regression with sync speed on MacOS (M1/arm64)? it took more time to sync the last ~2 months of chain state on Mac than syncing the _entire_ chain state on a linux machine. both on the same network, both with SSDs, and with the MacOS machine having better CPU and SSD performance.
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dANBs[m]
rmonteiro[xmpp]: What does my username shoe up as when I type all I see is is a capital r
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RavFX[m]
How much RAM on that Mac?
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zone117x
32 GB on both machines. it never used more than 2GB from what I could see
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selsta
zone117x: which version?
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selsta
and when did you sync up on macOS and when Linux
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zone117x
latest versions as of today. did both today
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zone117x
latest from github releases
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RavFX[m]
Did not know Apple was making 32GB Mac with M1, nice to know.
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RavFX[m]
My monero daemon use 10.1GB in a 16GB VM
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RavFX[m]
164GB virtual so the whole blockchain is "allocated" in "ram"
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RavFX[m]
if you're only use 2GB then my guess is that it constantly use the storage to validate each TX instead of using some local cache in RAM, slowing down the whole process by a few order of magnitude
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selsta
there's no 32gb m1 as far as i'm aware of
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selsta
m1 pro only
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zone117x
you folks are living in 2020 :) there are 64GB models available
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selsta
do you have the time it took to sync for both?
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zone117x
> if you're only use 2GB then my guess is that it constantly use the storage to validate each TX instead of using some local cache in RAM, slowing down the whole process by a few order of magnitude
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zone117x
this is pretty strange to me. disk usage never appeared to be anywhere close to peak. even if this was the problem, it would be strange to me if the buffering/threading implementation was so poor that a potential bottleneck in disk slowed down everything else (as opposed to buffering more data in memory)
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RavFX[m]
don't need to peek.
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RavFX[m]
data access take more time when the TX are read from disk.
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RavFX[m]
* from disk/ssd.
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RavFX[m]
if you add 1ms for each TX to read plus 1ms for each TX decoy from that TX to read then it really addup at the end
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selsta
i've synced up both m1 mac and linux system and didn't notice major differences
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selsta
so i would be interested in the approx sync time on both
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zone117x
@RavFX you misunderstand -- if disk was a bottleneck, I'd expect the network thread to saturate the memory buffer. surely the implementation is not so naive to make the network stack completely block IO on CPU or disk operations for each received block/tx
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zone117x
@seltsa
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zone117x
> so i would be interested in the approx sync time on both
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zone117x
syncing the last ~2 months of history took about 6 hours, syncing the entire history from scratch took about 5 hours
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zone117x
first one on an M1 macbook, second on a linux machine. the M1 hardware is better in pretty much every way
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selsta
5 hours for a full sync sounds too quick
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selsta
can you post the exact specs for the linux machine, or at least the exact ssd,
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selsta
?
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RavFX[m]
You are not the only one who did notice big slowdown at the end of the sync.
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RavFX[m]
What I was making high performance HDD sync test, the last ~1-2% took a LOT more time
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RavFX[m]
s/What/When/
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RavFX[m]
With a LOT of cache miss
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zone117x
> can you post the exact specs for the linux machine, or at least the exact ssd,
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zone117x
ssd: Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe
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zone117x
cpu: i7-11700K
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erembax[m]
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zone117x
the linux machine is using around 2.5x the amount of CPU, memory, and network
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zone117x
neither saturated disk usage
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Guest30
Testing
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selsta
zone117x: all I can say is that 5h sync time sound unusually fast, usually it's 12h
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selsta
never heard anyone report such a short sync time so that's why i'm confused
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selsta
random disk IO speed is the most important variable for sync time
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eudaimon36[m]
hey, guys: any reason I wouldn't be able to start the GUI through proxychains? Just learning proxychains, but I've been able to successfully start all apps with it except the Monero GUI.
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jozsef[m]
Maybe because
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jozsef[m]
> this program works only on dynamically linked programs
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jozsef[m]
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jozsef[m]
Monerod is usually statically linked, is the gui?
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RavFX[m]
If you download the binaries, yes.
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RavFX[m]
That way it just work on all configurations.
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RavFX[m]
else you gonna need a download version available for all version of ubuntu, all version of fedora, all version of whatever....
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eudaimon36[m]
So dumbing things down a bit for me: the conclusion is I should give up attempting to run the GUI through proxychains?
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RavFX[m]
eudaimon36[m]: Exact.
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RavFX[m]
Or compile monero yourself
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eudaimon36[m]
lol
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eudaimon36[m]
I'll go with the first option!
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RavFX[m]
that way it's not gonna be static
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eudaimon36[m]
Thanks
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RavFX[m]
ok!
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selsta
eudaimon36[m]: monero-gui supports proxys when you go to settings -> interface
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selsta
no need for an external program
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eudaimon36[m]
selsta: Ok, this makes sense, I'll study that a bit.
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eudaimon36[m]
Is it possible I damaged something with the GUI attempting to run it through proxychains?
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eudaimon36[m]
now the wallet doesn't connect to the daemon
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selsta
eudaimon36[m]: did you enable proxy?
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selsta
no it's not possible to damage something
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eudaimon36[m]
hmm, ok. I'll play around and see what I F-ed up
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selsta
eudaimon36[m]: if you enable proxy in Settings -> Interface and don't set IP / port right it will not connect to a node
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eudaimon36[m]
<selsta> "eudaimon36: if you enable..." <- I've been reading everything I can find online about this Socks5 Proxy option within the Interface. Having done so, however, it's still a bit unclear. In particular, I'm wondering how this affects my currently used full node. And also, I assume I must first start my Tor service before running the wallet with this set. (I'm very new to all this, so I apologize if I haven't even formulated the
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eudaimon36[m]
questions properly)
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selsta
if you want to proxy traffic through Tor you have to be running Tor first
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selsta
so if you are running a local node on the same machine then you want to proxy the node traffic and not the wallet traffic
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selsta
because node <-> is local anyway
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selsta
node <-> wallet
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eudaimon36[m]
OK, this is very helpful, and largely how I understood things.
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eudaimon36[m]
The one thing I didn't realize, but now make sense, is that the only thing that COULD be proxied is the full node--the wallet does not speak to anything but the node.
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eudaimon36[m]
So if I weren't running a full node, I would have to point the wallet to a remote node that it would connect to via Socks5 proxy. (I.e., I'm still a bit unclear about the Socks5 proxy "remote node connection" reference)
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eudaimon36[m]
selsta: ^
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selsta
eudaimon36[m]: correct
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eudaimon36[m]
selsta: Thank you!
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selsta
monerod has a --proxy option
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eudaimon36[m]
selsta: But I needn't worry about adding any flags to monerod myself, right? The proxy option in the interface makes any necessary adjustments
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selsta
no, monerod is a separate program
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selsta
do you manage monerod manually or do you let monero-gui start and stop it?
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eudaimon36[m]
I have done it both ways at different times
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eudaimon36[m]
So besides having the interface set to proxy, I have to start the daemon with: ./monerod --tx-proxy "tx-proxy=tor,127.0.0.1:9050,16"
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DanIsnotthemanBr
your creating a connection from monero gui to your seperate monerod instances over tor?
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eudaimon36[m]
DanIsnotthemanBr: I think the idea is that the wallet communicates directly with my local full node, and then Tor obfuscates my node
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ofrnxmr[m]
Daemons is --proxy=127.0.0.1:9050
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eudaimon36[m]
ofrnxmr[m]: So I have to start my daemon with this, AND then have the interface set to proxy?
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eudaimon36[m]
I would think the interface would just start the daemon with that
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eudaimon36[m]
seems redundant
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DanIsnotthemanBr
oh so you want monerod to connect via tor
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ofrnxmr[m]
# TOR P2P anonymous-inbound=$ONION:18084,127.0.0.1:18084,32 proxy=127.0.0.1:9055 # Proxy through TOR tx-proxy=tor,127.0.0.1:9055,16,disable_noise # relay tx over tor pad-transactions=1
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DanIsnotthemanBr
hidden service?
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ofrnxmr[m]
* ```
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ofrnxmr[m]
# TOR P2P
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ofrnxmr[m]
anonymous-inbound=$ONION:18084,127.0.0.1:18084,32 proxy=127.0.0.1:9055 # Proxy through TOR tx-proxy=tor,127.0.0.1:9055,16,disable_noise # relay tx over tor pad-transactions=1
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ofrnxmr[m]
```
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ofrnxmr[m]
Tx-proxy and anon inbound are for relaying tx over onion
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ofrnxmr[m]
Blockchains sync, outgoing connections only, is --proxy
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eudaimon36[m]
what if I want everything over onion?
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eudaimon36[m]
not sure why anyone would even want to limit it to only some data
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ofrnxmr[m]
Cant sync blocks over onion
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ofrnxmr[m]
Because tor onion is unreliable
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eudaimon36[m]
I see. This also explains why I couldn't connect through proxychains last night
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ofrnxmr[m]
Old instructions use torsocks
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ofrnxmr[m]
Not sure why youd try proxychains. Seems it doesnt work at all unless you build from sour3
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eudaimon36[m]
ofrnxmr[m]: Just reread this: what does this mean, if you can't sync blockchain over Tor anyhow
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ofrnxmr[m]
You can sync the blockchain over tor
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ofrnxmr[m]
You cannot sync over onion
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ofrnxmr[m]
You cannot get incoming blockchain sync connections when using --proxy
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ofrnxmr[m]
You can make outgoing blockchain sync over --proxy
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ofrnxmr[m]
--proxy sends blockchain sync over exit nodes
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eudaimon36[m]
hmmm, I thought Tor = The ONION Router
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ofrnxmr[m]
No
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ofrnxmr[m]
TOR = The Onion Router
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eudaimon36[m]
lol
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ofrnxmr[m]
Not "the .onion hidden service-only network"
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ofrnxmr[m]
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eudaimon36[m]
OK, back to my studies...
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plowsof11
every tor user visiting an onion is "localhost" :-o
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DanIsnotthemanBr
what if you live outside your localhost