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DanIsnotthemanBr
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DanIsnotthemanBr
these all bots?
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plowsof11
yes :(
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DanIsnotthemanBr
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DanIsnotthemanBr
OO
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selsta
our gitlab has a huge spam issue
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speedyswede
Wazzap my moneros!?
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plowsof11
selsta when you create an account - you can but bla⊙bc for an email - no verification required, (so a dumb script can use the api)
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speedyswede
I use mymonero app and buy directly from it
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speedyswede
What's popping bros
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plowsof11
hello rayatina, not much
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speedyswede
Surely you got something going on fam? Some kick-ass opsec procedures? 😎
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speedyswede
I'm doing speed and feeling too anxious to hit up discord so i thought I'd be getting go know you old-school legends hehe
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endogenic
rule number one of opsec: dont *tell* them you're doing speed
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speedyswede
Hmm damn alright thanks
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plowsof11
lol
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Siren[m]
don't tell people you're a swede either
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speedyswede
Hmm I'm not concerned on irc really. I don't know do anything bad except drugs. What phones you got? Have you encrypted them?
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plowsof11
maybe try discord, we're governed by swedish laws here
libera.chat/policies
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DanIsnotthemanBr
Swedish chef
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speedyswede
Oh hell yeah, believe it or not but I'm swedish
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speedyswede
And sweden let's you discuss mostly anything. Very big on free speech and open discourse
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speedyswede
Encryption isn't at all a taboo topic
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ocean[m]
how is it "big on free speech" if there are things you aren't able to discuss?
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speedyswede
Like what?
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speedyswede
I can't think of any illegal topics of the top of my head at all
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ocean[m]
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speedyswede
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ocean[m]
?
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ocean[m]
either you have free speech or you don't
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speedyswede
We do
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speedyswede
But yo about that encryption
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speedyswede
Anyone encrypting their phone?
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ofrnxmr[m]
#monero-offtopic:monero.social
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speedyswede
Oh wrong channel? My bad, thanks
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ofrnxmr[m]
Not necessarily the wrong channel, but probably better suited for off topic
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cjac
okay, so it looks like my array of cores are getting anywhere from 54H/s on the celeron to 480H/s on the i7s. I know they're not performance machines, but they're quiet and they share an office with me.
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wormrobot
monero at 150 usd whuuuttt!
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wormrobot
nice!
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cjac
108.7, 428.3, 742.9, 945.9, 1005.9 ; and the 1005.9 is on the same host as the monerod
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cjac
wait, that's just five. I have another.
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cjac
there's also a 752.9
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cjac
for an average of 3984.6 H/s
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speedyswede
Keep at it son!
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cjac
I'm 1/644377 of the total compute power!
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speedyswede
Then we accelerate!
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cjac
yeah, I am looking at getting ten of the latest generation of the mini computer I'm using
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speedyswede
Pi?
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speedyswede
I've got the oldest one
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cjac
ha, no. proper processors
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speedyswede
Alright godspeed then soldier
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speedyswede
I don't know much but I respect it
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cjac
Q1075GE x 10 with a 1T SATA SSD and a 512G NVMe plus 32G of memory and 8xGE ports
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cjac
they're ostensibly 2.5GE, but my switch only does 1G at this point.
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cjac
and that's a lot of switchports. I might run them with only 6 attached to the switch until I get rich.
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speedyswede
Hmm, definitely worth looking into asap!
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cjac
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cjac
one is almost as much as all of the instances combined. and I'd need two.
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cjac
so I'll make do with what I've got for a bit longer :-)
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speedyswede
My man! Grind and keep that chain going!
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speedyswede
Public service, appreciate it
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cjac
wow. each of my servers is pumping out 5K
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cjac
oh, no. sorry. my new server is doing 5k. my old server is only at 1889
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RavFX[m]
<cjac> "for an average of 3984.6 H/s" <- I use small computers too, like Thinkcenters.
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RavFX[m]
Have a few of them, about ~3500H/s each plus or less
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RavFX[m]
Like them, quite good for size and power consumption (and price)
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RavFX[m]
> <@cjac:libera.chat> for an average of 3984.6 H/s... (full message at <
libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/do…9bdf02ce2950423b3158f5c7231ad8592ec>)
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cjac
3500H/s *each*? That's pretty good performance. I'm seeing 900H/s for my best in class
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cjac
all of mine are fanless, so that might have something to do with it.
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RavFX[m]
Surely
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RavFX[m]
Thinkcenter you can find low power unit (35w to 65w) all with Intel T series (they have some with ryzen too now)
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RavFX[m]
Mine have 10500T
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RavFX[m]
can upgrade to 10900T but it seam to be unobtanium
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cjac
the TDP on these systems is 10W
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Mochi101
If you'r in the EU that will be far too much.
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RavFX[m]
Fortunately I mine using my own power, and not in the eu.
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RavFX[m]
And that energy thing is propagating...
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Mochi101
Pretty sad.
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RavFX[m]
yeah, indeed.
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RavFX[m]
Issue with power, a lot of investment into unreliable renewable, and they have that trip on switching on electric everything. What could go wrong...
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cjac
no, I'm not in the EU. I peer on the SIX
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cjac
I got a pair of these. What do you think?
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cjac
dp/B071ZJ6DGW
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cjac
sorry, amazon.com/dp/B071ZJ6DGW
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cjac
and ten of these: amazon.com/dp/B09M43JPFX
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RavFX[m]
To power all these small computers? Look good.
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cjac
ten of these: aliexpress.us/item/3256804007661173.html
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cjac
and the six I've got in my rack leaves me with capacity for a few more when I'm wealthy.
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cjac
not super fast, but better than rpi clusters, and with some real hardware if we want these to be ceph data nodes
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cjac
and enough to be redundant cattle rather than my beautiful little babies. Pets take too much time.
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cjac
I want to handle them in bulk.
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RavFX[m]
not worth the price
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cjac
maybe not for this workload.
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cjac
but if this workload was a secondary user on the equipment. It would keep me from wasting my extra cycles.
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cjac
anyone here have any familiarity with openstack clusters?
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RavFX[m]
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cjac
no memory
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cjac
single local disk
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cjac
single network interface
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cjac
has fan?
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RavFX[m]
Thought it was for mining
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RavFX[m]
I did not notice the ethernet port on the image
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RavFX[m]
how I did miss that lol
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RavFX[m]
I guess it's getting late
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RavFX[m]
So you use them as indented and mine using the extra power. That's better!
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cjac
this one might have too many nics.
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cjac
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cjac
TOO MANY NETWORK INTERFACES. PUT SOME BACK.
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cjac
lacp is super cool, though. Much easier to think of them all as a single bonded interface and pull tags off of them as needed.
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RavFX[m]
does it have NVME?
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cjac
m.sata ; so maybe? What's the width of that bus?
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cjac
m.sata is 6Gbps
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RavFX[m]
the M70q have one nvme and one sata.
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RavFX[m]
looking at the image and it look like the small sata you plug in mini pcie (not m.2)
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RavFX[m]
not mini pcie but similarly looking connectors
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RavFX[m]
Connector look like it would fit with normal cables, so it's sata, but smaller
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RavFX[m]
Sata3 is 6GB too, yeah
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cjac
that's burst, though. and writes to or reads from the disk's cache. The reads from the storage will be much slower than the 6Gbps of the bus. I'll probably be disappointed with the performance if I compare it to the fancy new NVMe chips. But it should be good enough for the workload I need it to do.
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RavFX[m]
sata ssd is fine for most people.
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RavFX[m]
as long as it's not DRAM-less SSD
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cjac
nice, the M70q does sound like a nice piece of hardware to have around. I might get a few and see if I can stand another fan.
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RavFX[m]
It's not loud, and it's upgradeable
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RavFX[m]
I look to mod mine to put a 11th gen CPU in it
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cjac
I do love lenovo hardware. I've got two laptops in my home office so far, and I've got a desktop waiting for me to pick it up at work.
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cjac
the desktop was pretty fancy in 2018.
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RavFX[m]
You might be able to get some at a discount locally, I mean, some place, they give that to remote workers and they don't reclaim them always, lot of them endup sold for 3x cheap
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RavFX[m]
I use to always recommend Lenovo thinkpads (Serie T, P or X mostly) but more recently the quality went down the drain
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cjac
oh? I like the P1 a bunch.
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RavFX[m]
Thinkcenters still nice thru, as I use my own input devices
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RavFX[m]
I prefer the old thinkpad keyboards.
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RavFX[m]
And now some model have soldered ram or half the ram soldered
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RavFX[m]
But there still great machine
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RavFX[m]
I still have my X200, getting old
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cjac
I got at 20Y4S1PV0M
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cjac
for my refresh this year
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RavFX[m]
Nice
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cjac
I've been thinking about an eGPU for it, since it's got thunderbolt 4 ports
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cjac
I drive 2x4K monitors with it, and that integrated GPU is just having a hard time of it.
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RavFX[m]
You do you.
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RavFX[m]
If you think you need one :)
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RavFX[m]
I'm more into desktop for big machines, I barely use laptop now.
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cjac
I figured I'd do it a favor and offload all that graphic memory that wayland is allocating from its primary pool and stuff.
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cjac
$work has been trying to drive everyone to our browser-based OS since I joined. But we also run a debian derivative as another option, and I'm all about that.
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cjac
I tried to like it, but the closest thing I could get to a shell on it was a container. And I don't know about you, but I really have a preferred terminal emulator, and it's not available on any other operating systems.
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Katie[m]
<cjac> "$work has been trying to drive..." <- Better be on some damn work computers
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Katie[m]
I ain't installing work software on my devices
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Trung
hi
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Trung
i'm bridging from xmpp can anyone see this message?
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speedyswede
Yes Trung
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Trung
oh nice 😁 thanks speedyswede
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speedyswede
Any time bro 😎
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rbrunner
Mainnet blocktime over the last 100 blocks is down to 85 seconds. We had two reorgs a few hours ago. And my daemon does not get incoming connections today, which is very unusual.
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rbrunner
Hmmmm ...
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ofrnxmr[m]
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ofrnxmr[m]
Rbrunner
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ofrnxmr[m]
Big hash rate change?
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ofrnxmr[m]
And a lot of reorgs
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rbrunner
Nice. Yeah, looks like it.
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rbrunner
That cries out for a nice conspiracy theory :)
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ofrnxmr[m]
20 blocks in 90 mins > 72 blocks in 90 mins
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ofrnxmr[m]
A lot of 2 block deep reorgs
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plowsof11
Rucknium has some issues with that frequency page... im not exactly sure what
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ofrnxmr[m]
Im also looking at my logs
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sech1
I have only one reorg in my logs today
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sech1
but all top pools got a lot of new hashrate today
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selsta
these short term hashrate changes happen quite often
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selsta
rbrunner: do you have exactly zero incoming?
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rbrunner
Yes. 12 out, 0 in, although with a main daemon I compiled myself a while ago.
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selsta
there's a bug with back pings, that might be why
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selsta
does your IP change?
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rbrunner
Not sure. Might be.
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selsta
assuming you have no local network issues that would prevent incoming connections it's likely
monero-project/monero #8640
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rbrunner
Ok. So not so remarkable, basically just leaves the hash rate change. You say that happens from time to time? I wonder what that might be, with mining so distributed.
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selsta
rbrunner: yes, i have seen it often that suddenly blocks come on super slow or super fast
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selsta
normalizes itself after a couple hours
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rbrunner
Interesting. And I think we can be lucky if this "ping" problem is the only "fallout" from a complete rewrite of such a central component.
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cjac
so how long should I expect to wait before my balance increases above 0.000000000000 ?
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selsta
cjac: what kind of mining are you doing? solo or p2pool or pool mining?
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cjac
daemon?
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cjac
I have a monerod running, and 8 miners connected to it.
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cjac
what kind is that?
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cjac
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cjac
ah. Depending on your hashrate, it might take months before you find a block. This is often referred to as a 'lottery'
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xfedex[m]
Is there any reason why my transaction's fee per KB has increased a lot in the last few months?
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hyc
yes
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xfedex[m]
it was ~0.000004, now it is ~0.00002
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xfedex[m]
I run my own node
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hyc
correct
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xfedex[m]
hyc: What reason is it? Did the hardfork change fees?
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hyc
yes
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xfedex[m]
Ok thanks
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xfedex[m]
Is this also the cause monero transactions decreased lately? There are less spam TXs I guess
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hyc
yes, the fee was increased to discourage spam
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nioc
cjac: I just asked a bot for info on solo mining with a HR of 10k and this is what I got.....
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nioc
At 10000 h/s with network diff of 3.36e+11 your expected time for find a block is 3.36e+07 s or 389.06 days
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nioc
so anywhere between a very short time and several years
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nioc
from that you can figure for your HR
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cjac
wow. that sounds slow. And a block is less than 1 XMR?
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nioc
0.6
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cjac
so about $100/year at 10K h/s
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cjac
slightly less
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nioc
plus you get some heat in the winter
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cjac
it feels like it takes far more power to mine a block than it's worth. And that doesn't include the cost of the hardware.
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cjac
nioc: heh. right. :-)
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nioc
cost of elec is a big factor
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nioc
I imagine some get it for free
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xfedex[m]
I wonder why Monero's price decoupled noticeably from price calculated following McCalfe's law (which says that the price is proportional to the square of the transaction quantity) after it got listed on Binance, while on Bitcoin, Metcalfe's Law remains more or less accurate
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nioc
price of btc can go up but tx count can't
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Rucknium[m]
Because Metcalfe's Law isn't a law. On top of that, it's misapplied here. The social value of a cryptocurrency isn't equal to its market capitalization.