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geonic
website down?
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plowsof11
getmonero.org ?
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geonic
yeah, not working for me
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geonic
Error code: PR_END_OF_FILE_ERROR
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geonic
The page you are trying to view cannot be shown because the authenticity of the received data could not be verified.
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plowsof11
getmonero works fine here (they did update their certs the other day... perhaps thats happening) i would try and clear your cache?
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plowsof11
or a hard refresh.. ctrl+shift+r or f5 hm
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geonic
tried a few browsers.. no luck. maybe it's still propagating
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DanIsnotthemanBr
Works for me.
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nioc
works here
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geonic
cool
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tel
Which android app to use?
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ofrnxmr[m]
?
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sech1
Monerujo
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tel
ofrnxmr[m]: monero android app
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ZhenyaPav[m]
<tel> "Which android app to use?" <- I use Cake wallet
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tel
Why?
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tel
I steals data
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ofrnxmr[m]
Privacy = stack wallet
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ofrnxmr[m]
stability = cake wallet
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ZhenyaPav[m]
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ofrnxmr[m]
tel: what data does cake steal? Lol. Always bring evidence
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ZhenyaPav[m]
Yes please. What's your source?
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tel
Edge is good
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ofrnxmr[m]
Lol @ tel, what?
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ofrnxmr[m]
Cake steals data but edge, a mymonero light wallet, doesnt? Are you asking questions or just trolling
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tel
Cake sussy
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ofrnxmr[m]
Explain your fud
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ofrnxmr[m]
So I can explain why youre making stuff up
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tel
Cake isn't foss and hosted in github
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tel
Is monero in github shit?
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ofrnxmr[m]
Cake isnt foss? Where did you hear that
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ofrnxmr[m]
And "is monero in GitHub shit". What?
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Inge
I thought cake WAS open source (with the caveat that you can't assert that the apple store binary is made from the tagged release code ....)
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flatline
i downloaded the monero cli wallet and waited for monerod to sync, and then i set up xmrig and p2pool to start mining... but i realized a little late that it was pointless for me. i always liked the idea of mining, it's fun to try, but i didn't immediately realize that there's no profit in it. i just saw a coin that can be mined on pc and had too
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flatline
much wishful thinking
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u221f
yeah, it's not profitable unless you have free electricity
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u221f
however there's a slim chance those unprofitable moneroj will be profitable in the future :)
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u221f
i turned off my 500 w consuming bitcoin miner when the daily generated coins were just 0.05 BTC
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sech1
Not profitable, but works well as a space heater
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flatline
as i've heard lol
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tel
Github is owned by ms so its bad
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sech1
no jokes, I'm actually heating my apartment with Monero mining
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flatline
well glorious during the winter. with my current setup i'd be lucky to make one coin in weeks
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flatline
i just don't have the hardware for any of these things
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flatline
and rn i only have 3k to my name
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sech1
the point of Monero mining is you mine with what you already have
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flatline
i don't even think i have a gpu
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sech1
Monero is mined on CPU
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sech1
if you managed to log in to IRC, there's 99% chance you can mine Monero on the same device
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flatline
well it is something i've tried before. i would start mining on my pc and then go to work, but i got a little discouraged by results and complications i've faced
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nexajat7871
Does a remote node know what transaction I make? I.e. can it see the amount, the recipient, and the sender?
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ofrnxmr[m]
No, it cannot see those 3 things
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nioc
No, only your ip address
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nexajat7871
So basically no point in routing the monero client through tor then?
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nioc
not for those 3 things but it will hide your ip
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nexajat7871
Hm. I mean aside from my IP it sees nothing anyway then does it?
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Rucknium[m]
nexajat7871: The remote node would know which transaction you make. Monero encrypts most data about transactions: amount, receiver, one-of-16 for spent transaction output.
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Rucknium[m]
It would also know when you open your wallet for syncing if you don't keep it constantly connected.
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dimmed6843[m]
Can ISPs detect if users are operating a Monero mode?
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copenhagen_bram[
probably. i suppose you could hide it with a vpn or tor
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copenhagen_bram[
<Rucknium[m]> "nexajat7871: The remote node..." <- How much does the remote node know if you make a transaction over Tor?
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dimmed6843[m]
<copenhagen_bram[> "probably. i suppose you could..." <- How?
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selsta
dimmed6843[m]: they can, yes
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Rucknium[m]
copenhagen_bram: The remote node would know that someone using Tor did those things.
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copenhagen_bram[
Rucknium[m]: huh. so the more people making transactions over Tor, the more anonymous they are
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copenhagen_bram[
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vikCake[m]
<tel> "Cake isn't foss and hosted in..." <- yes it is
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D0Q03[m]
<tel> "Cake isn't foss and hosted in..." <- But cakewallet/monero.com is foss
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endogenic
foss != oss fwiw
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sgp[m]
it's MIT licensed....
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ofrnxmr[m]
As an aside, endogenic: that is true. A lot of people assume because proprietary software has some code available that is if foss
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ofrnxmr[m]
It is* foss
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endogenic
so every lib you use is foss?
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ofrnxmr[m]
Or unlicenced code etc
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DanIsnotthemanBr
I use the public library
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DanIsnotthemanBr
To read
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endogenic
lol i didnt think so
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D0Q03[m]
<ofrnxmr[m]> "As an aside, endogenic: that is..." <- So, calewallet has some proprietary code?
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sgp[m]
D0Q03[m]: No, he is just making stuff up and hopes some people will fall for it. Notice how he didn't point to anything specifically
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sgp[m]
the repo is open, go have a look
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vikCake[m]
I think ofrnxmr was talking in general terms.. not Cake. I think.
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ofrnxmr[m]
D0Q03: Afaik, no. Just (opt in) interacts with some proprietary services, like exchanges and cakepay
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sgp[m]
yeah I didn't mean you ofrnxmr
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MajesticBank
yes, cake need more privacy focused exchanges that is for sure
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D0Q03[m]
<ofrnxmr[m]> "D0Q03: Afaik, no. Just (opt in)..." <- I undestood
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MajesticBank