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DanIsnotthemanBr
Craig wright channel ;)
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as2333
the true secret author of bitcoin
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Inge
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bridgerton[m]
<GenericMage> He's... Right though, ringCT is sort of like a mixing service just with a different approach. I think what he means ultimately is that Monero as a concept can never be compliant with law enforcement, since they'll just see all these ring signatures as one big mixer.
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ofrnxmr[m]
Ringct is not a sort of mixer
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sech1
it's NOT a mixer
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bridgerton[m]
<GenericMage> "no no your honor, we weren't mixing funds, we were mixing signatures"
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bridgerton[m]
Straight to jail.
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ofrnxmr[m]
So
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ofrnxmr[m]
"He's.... wrong" FIFY
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bridgerton[m]
<GenericMage> Technically yes, he's wrong, legally; your lawful transaction could be helping someone cover up their unlawful transaction, which is aiding and abetting.
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sech1
by this logic, you simply going out to the street will help someone "hide in the crowd" while running away from the police
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sech1
bullshit
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sech1
*could be helping someone
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bridgerton[m]
<GenericMage> I've never seen this happen anywhere outside a video game, if police are chasing someone and you choose not to help you *can* be persecuted.
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sech1
that's not my responsibility to do police work for them
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sech1
I could get hurt or worse
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sech1
so nope
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sech1
You can only be persecuted if police _orders_ you to do something to help and you don't
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bridgerton[m]
<GenericMage> I don't write the laws, if the cops feel that your refusal to help allowed the criminal to get away they can persecute you.
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ofrnxmr[m]
In what country ๐ญ๐ญ๐ญ
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ofrnxmr[m]
Round here, we tell cops to kick rocks
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ofrnxmr[m]
And they kick rocks
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sech1
exactly, "refusal" implies that police asks (orders) you for something first
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ofrnxmr[m]
Im not obligated to say or do or remember seeing a god damn thing
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bridgerton[m]
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ofrnxmr[m]
"Are you ofrnxmr?"
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ofrnxmr[m]
"Dontasktoask.com bye"
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ofrnxmr[m]
bridgerton[m]: I do it regularly
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sech1
anyway, that wiki article is about police telling you to do something and you refusing
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bridgerton[m]
<GenericMage> These excuses won't hold up when millions of dollars are involved.
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sech1
just going to the street and "making a crowd" for criminals to hide in is not a criminal offense
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ofrnxmr[m]
Good luck enforcing that in the south ๐๐
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bridgerton[m]
<GenericMage> Let's use that analogy more broadly, the "crowd" is Monero, the police can do certain things to disperse that crowd, like banning it from exchanges, app stores, making it illegal to hold.
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bridgerton[m]
Crowds can be dispersed if they interfere with law enforcement.
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ofrnxmr[m]
Send me the fine ๐. Ill go to court and defend myself too
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ofrnxmr[m]
Scammer no scamming
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ofrnxmr[m]
Or the crowd just parties and the police punch air
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ofrnxmr[m]
Picture this: ofrnxmr running from a bunch of worker ants ๐คฃ
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bridgerton[m]
<GenericMage> And then the market cap goes to zero as only 19 ghost bros hold or use the coin.
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bridgerton[m]
<GenericMage> Kek
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bridgerton[m]
<GenericMage> Also you know P2P traders can get catfished by glowies, right? Don't assume you'll be safe if you just use P2P.
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sech1
where I'm from, police can't just buy illegal stuff and arrest the seller
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sech1
because it's "provoking a crime" and is illegal itself
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ofrnxmr[m]
Entrapment
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bridgerton[m]
<GenericMage> Well, where I'm from they can. Common law is a Bitch.
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ofrnxmr[m]
Outlaws are a bitch too
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Guest7020
Hey
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Guest7020
If CRYPTONOTE_MINED_MONEY_UNLOCK_WINDOW goes to zero what will happen on new chain
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sech1
lots of invalid transactions will happen after each reorg, that's what will happen
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Guest7020
if i give a price of 30ย invalid transaction is possible?
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moneromooo
Always is. The probability just goes down hard with increasing values.
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moneromooo
But setting this define to 0 shouldn't cause many invalid txes, just the ones spending those miner outs (or using them as fake outs) shortly after they're mined.
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moneromooo
Oh wait, actually on a new chain most outputs will be coinbases... So sech1 is right :D
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Guest7020
so for DIFFICULTY_TARGET = 1minute i must double and not decrease that
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moneromooo
You can increase it, decrease it, or leave it as is... It just controls how fast blocks will be found on average.
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moneromooo
Decreasing will require some other code changes though, since some code assumes multiple of 60 seconds.
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Guest7020
yes
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Guest7020
when bulletproof++ will be added
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moneromooo
Soon after the code is done, tested, reviewed, and deemed worth it.
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Guest7020
3months++
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Guest7020
will CRYPTONOTE_DEFAULT_TX_SPENDABLE_AGE == 5 create problems on reorgs
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sech1
It will obviously create problem on reorgs of depth > 5
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Inge
.usd
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Wallet
Inge: DURR.. 1 USD = 1 USD genious! [sic]
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Inge
.krak
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Inge
grumble. messed up layout :D
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bridgerton[m]
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bridgerton[m]
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plowsof11
appears to be a monero enjoyer / level 10 memer
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cockliuser[m]
The Guy Fawkes mask too ๐
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cockliuser[m]
brb going to ask him to sign a message with tft's pubkey :P
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cockliuser[m]
Holy ducking duck I found the real Nicholas Van Saberhagen too
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cockliuser[m]
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cockliuser[m]
Blue checkmark, must be real
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ofrnxmr[m]
Also
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ofrnxmr[m]
Craig wright is satoshi
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apotheon
Is that his price tag?
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great_taste
is satoshi ashamed of what bitcoin has become?
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CopenhagenBram[m
<great_taste> "is satoshi ashamed of what..." <- Nobody knows, and it doesn't matter because Satoshi is pseudonymous, hasn't been active in a long time, is not a prophet like Jesus or Mohammad, and his word shouldn't be religiously worshipped like people do with the Bible, the Quran, or the United States Constitution.
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BusyBoredom[m]
Satoshi's rolling in his grave.
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» moneromooo amused by the implication the Bible or the Quran should be religiously worshipped
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CopenhagenBram[m
Not to imply that the way people treat the word of Jesus, Mohammad, the Bible, the Quran, or the Constitution is any less irrational in my opinion
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CopenhagenBram[m
> * <@moneromooo:libera.chat> amused by the implication the Bible or the Quran should be religiously worshipped
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CopenhagenBram[m
How do I unimply something?
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moneromooo
You just did.
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CopenhagenBram[m
People do religiously worship it, believe that these books are inerrant, etc. I think it's funny that we have people feeling like that about the word of Satoshi Nakamoto too lmao
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CopenhagenBram[m
Anyways, I came here to ask if there's a way to mine Monero in a nicer, more background sort of way: mine in the background for the mere sake of making Monero a little more secure and decentralized, in a way that plays nice with the other process running on my computer that is absolutely not a full blown mining rig, and not consume its entire resources and crash everything?
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moneromooo
Are you aware of background mining in monerod ?
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moneromooo
If not, then background mining in monerod.
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CopenhagenBram[m
Ah, I'd have to set up a full node for that.
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moneromooo
Works with pruned.
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CopenhagenBram[m
I suppose I could consider trying to clear up my hard drive so I have space to do it.
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ofrnxmr[m]
If running windows, you can also run xmrig in background mode / pause when active
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plowsof11
so you're saying i still have to read a manual to figure out how
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plowsof11
pfff
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plowsof11
(i cant even joke because the cli asks you if you want to enable it when creating a new wallet, nice feature)
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cockliuser[m]
<CopenhagenBram[m> "People do religiously worship it..." <- How dare people religious worship... a religion?
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cockliuser[m]
* How dare people religiously worship... a religion?
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ofrnxmr[m]
Religion = to worship without question
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ofrnxmr[m]
* Religious = worship without question
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ofrnxmr[m]
Religiously = worshipping without question
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ofrnxmr[m]
Religion = worshipped without question
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as2333
CopenhagenBram[m at least it makes more sense to believe in satoshi than in 'jesus'
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moneromooo
I heard the renowned Roman centurion Criggus Wrigtus was Jesus.
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as2333
hehe