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askiiart[m]
Can anyone help me with running p2pool mini? I keep getting this error: JSONRPCRequest uv_poll_start returned error EBADF
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DataHoarder
askiiart[m]: try #p2pool-mini on libera.chat, you should be able to find it on matrix I think
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dANBs[m]
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dANBs[m]
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dANBs[m]
HighQualityAgent[xmpp]: why use majestic bank when eXch exists
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dANBs[m]
HighQualityAgent[xmpp]: Majest bank scammed people or never addressed and errors
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dANBs[m]
HighQualityAgent[xmpp]: eXch has proof of reserves no javascript requiremets and if you enter a refund address if not enough reserves to cover you they will refeund into that wallet
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dANBs[m]
s//*/, s//*/, s/refeund/refund/
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dANBs[m]
HighQualityAgent[xmpp]: ofrnxmr
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dANBs[m]
HighQualityAgent[xmpp]: thats what happened to me so always check before
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dANBs[m]
HighQualityAgent[xmpp]: but got refunded
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ceetee[m]
majestic has become a meme
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k4r4b3y[m]
<dANBs[m]> "HighQualityAgent[xmpp]: https..." <- we need more monero propaganda videos like these
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ceetee[m]
ceetee[m]: ofrn knows
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dANBs[m]
HighQualityAgent[xmpp]: ceetee i have used them 2 to 4 times never had problem but this was way before the sus events
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dANBs[m]
HighQualityAgent[xmpp]: but eXch has proof so thats way better
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dANBs[m]
HighQualityAgent[xmpp]: k4r4b3y yeah these are great
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dANBs[m]
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dANBs[m]
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k4r4b3y[m]
we need to show that monero has its own thick red lines
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k4r4b3y[m]
and that it offers an EXIT out of the demon-system
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ofrnxmr[m]
dANBs[m]: majestic api shows reserves and majestic will say "we ran out!"
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TrasherDK[m]
dANBs[m]: Proof by who?
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ofrnxmr[m]
btw, bestchange has reserves if swaps listed. obv sekf reported as some clsim to hold a LOT on monero
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ofrnxmr[m]
self reported. exch is junk though
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ofrnxmr[m]
will start trades when they DONT have reserves
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dANBs[m]
HighQualityAgent[xmpp]: want to just try the atomic swaps throught CLI
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dANBs[m]
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ofrnxmr[m]
more than once my deposit ckeared, and then waited 15-20 blocks before they had enough to cash me out in xmr
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dANBs[m]
HighQualityAgent[xmpp]: yeah that happened before to me
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dANBs[m]
HighQualityAgent[xmpp]: eXch i always look at the clearnet before onion as the onion is behind and lots of people using it at once
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dANBs[m]
* the clearnet to see reserves before onion
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dANBs[m]
HighQualityAgent[xmpp]: k4r4b3y really want to see XMR payments not done over wifi like bluetooth LoRa
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dANBs[m]
HighQualityAgent[xmpp]: have heard its possible
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k4r4b3y[m]
dANBs[m]: that is very cool! I like the art style and the tone of it
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dANBs[m]
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dANBs[m]
HighQualityAgent[xmpp]:
locha.io
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rbrunner
The Locha Mesh project is dead, as far as I know. The website still stands however, like a zombie, for years already
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dANBs[m]
HighQualityAgent[xmpp]: true
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dANBs[m]
HighQualityAgent[xmpp]: LoRa is a thing and is unregulated (for now in usa)
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dANBs[m]
HighQualityAgent[xmpp]:
reticulum.network
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k4r4b3y[m]
dANBs[m]: what is lora? I heard it was some AI model for monerochan mining?
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dANBs[m]
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dANBs[m]
HighQualityAgent[xmpp]:
wikiless.org/wiki/LoRa
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dANBs[m]
HighQualityAgent[xmpp]: >physical proprietary radio communication technique
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dANBs[m]
HighQualityAgent[xmpp]: downside but most ham radios are i think
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k4r4b3y[m]
dANBs[m]: based wikiless user
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k4r4b3y[m]
thanks for the link, lora seems interesting
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hyc
LoRa is low power and low speed
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hyc
not much use for general networking
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dANBs[m]
HighQualityAgent[xmpp]: basically mesh network and can go far
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hyc
but mesh protocols would work with pretty much any radio tech. you could run them instead of 802.11 on wifi cards.
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ceetee[m]
<dANBs[m]> "HighQualityAgent[xmpp]: k4r4b3y..." <- Lora is way too slow for monero TX. The wallet needs to know recent other TX to construct the rings before it can broadcast anything, unlike BTC
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dANBs[m]
HighQualityAgent[xmpp]: u can use a SBC like pine64 and they even have a LoRaWAN kit
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ceetee[m]
WifiHalow is what you should be looking out for
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hyc
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monerobull[m]
Tf is that
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dANBs[m]
HighQualityAgent[xmpp]: ceetee what could be used that isn't wifi for monero?
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dANBs[m]
HighQualityAgent[xmpp]: nice hyc
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hyc
wifibroadcast - use a wifi card as a wide area transmitter
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dANBs[m]
HighQualityAgent[xmpp]: i take out all my wifi cards so maybe i could use them lol
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k4r4b3y[m]
dANBs[m]: may I ask why?
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hyc
maybe not directly applicable to this conv. it literally is broadcasting like a radio or tv station
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hyc
so it's only unidrectional comm
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ceetee[m]
WifiHalow is a new 1GHz WiFi standard, so it can archive 10x range at 1/10 datarate compared to WiFi. The huge advantage is that it uses a similar software back end, so you can reuse existing drivers with minimal change
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dANBs[m]
HighQualityAgent[xmpp]: Airgapped and only use wired but when i do have to use WiFi like public i use a wifi adapter
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ceetee[m]
hyc no that's fitting and very interesring
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k4r4b3y[m]
dANBs[m]: cool use case. That's one way to isolate wifi connectivity, I guess. I use QubesOS for that; it jails the networking hardware into a segregated virtual machine.
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dANBs[m]
HighQualityAgent[xmpp]: I use wired Etherent USB adapters as supossedly IntelME doesn't work or reconize wired eth only the onboard if it built into
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hyc
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dANBs[m]
HighQualityAgent[xmpp]: Also nice on the Qubes gonna actually install that this week 4 first time lol
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k4r4b3y[m]
dANBs[m]: QubesOS rocks. Feel free to contact me if you need help.
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dANBs[m]
HighQualityAgent[xmpp]: WiFiHalow hmmm gonna look into this
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k4r4b3y[m]
dANBs[m]: I havent' heard about this. I use coreboot to neuter the Intel ME on my machine.
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dANBs[m]
HighQualityAgent[xmpp]: yeah I have a corebooted chromebook but doesn't have the MEcleaned and some machines u can't flash but many that don't support coreboot you can atleast run MECleaner i think
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k4r4b3y[m]
yeah, it sucks that one can only neuter/disable Intel ME on select few notebooks
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k4r4b3y[m]
my advice would be getting a second hand thinkpad x230 with i7 3rd Gen CPU
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dANBs[m]
HighQualityAgent[xmpp]: yeah gonna sell another machine and get a thinkpad hopefully
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k4r4b3y[m]
godspeed brother
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dANBs[m]
HighQualityAgent[xmpp]: thanks lol
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dANBs[m]
HighQualityAgent[xmpp]: hopefully some peeps could provide some guides or test on the non wifi monero payments (even if they slow) it would be cool to know about
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dANBs[m]
HighQualityAgent[xmpp]: once i get another SBC i would like to learn this stuff people above mentioned
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k4r4b3y[m]
what SBC models are you looking at currently?
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k4r4b3y[m]
I haven't been keeping up with the market. Is there a raspberry pi 5?
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dANBs[m]
HighQualityAgent[xmpp]: prob something from Pine64 cause they cheaper last checked and more in supply
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dANBs[m]
HighQualityAgent[xmpp]: may be wrong though
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dANBs[m]
HighQualityAgent[xmpp]: now
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k4r4b3y[m]
what about ASUS?
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k4r4b3y[m]
I have seen they have some RK3333 (?) chip models
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hyc
rockpro64, quartzpro64
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k4r4b3y[m]
quartzpro? that's new to me. I will check it
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dANBs[m]
HighQualityAgent[xmpp]: also btw
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dANBs[m]
HighQualityAgent[xmpp]: Intel AMT ports you should block on your WiFi router:... (full message at <
libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/do…0f560e7e1f0e2c124ac9241436934009fb6>)
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dANBs[m]
HighQualityAgent[xmpp]: I think TCP ucould block both TCP/UDP
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dANBs[m]
HighQualityAgent[xmpp]: I think TCP u could block both TCP/UDP to be sure
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k4r4b3y[m]
what do these ports do with intel AMT?
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k4r4b3y[m]
ping the glow-agencies?
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dANBs[m]
HighQualityAgent[xmpp]: supossedly that what it uses
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k4r4b3y[m]
My ISP keeps me behind a NAT. So, I have no way of opening ports anyways---thus, am I correct to assume those ports do nothing in this case?
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dANBs[m]
HighQualityAgent[xmpp]: well i would assume if its blocked on WiFi these would be blocked but idk as out of band is a thing too lol
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dANBs[m]
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dANBs[m]
HighQualityAgent[xmpp]: lol idk if this cringe or not
vid.puffyan.us/watch?v=8xLbMQBkWhw
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ceetee[m]
<k4r4b3y[m]> "I have seen they have some RK333..." <- RK3399, RockPi4 is the best value option with that. The RK3588 is even more powerful, but at that price point you also get used small form factor PCs, which might be better value
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dANBs[m]
HighQualityAgent[xmpp]: any take it easy folks
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dANBs[m]
s/any/anyway/
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dANBs[m]
HighQualityAgent[xmpp]: cya
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k4r4b3y[m]
ceetee[m]: good to know, thank.
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k4r4b3y[m]
dANBs[m]: crypto bear is never cringe
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k4r4b3y[m]
it is quite sad to see the ordinals on bitcoin pushing the on-chain fee rate above a dollar. yeah, they seem to be getting their "fee market" but at what cost? the fee market is being produced not by using btc as "money" but as NFT's, inscriptions, non-fungible collectibles... bitcoin-sisters, are we money yet?
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rbrunner
Well, before NFTs it was "not use as money, but speculation". Not sure which is worse.
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k4r4b3y[m]
at least before NFTs, the speculative usage would still allow 1sat/b transactions to enter into next few blocks.
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k4r4b3y[m]
now I have to pay tens of thousands of sats in order to get a "sane" block entry time.
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k4r4b3y[m]
and of course, I HODL and thus can never stomach giving tens of thousands of sats to the miners
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k4r4b3y[m]
so I sit on my ass with my beeteecee... revolution-bros, I..
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tajzx
hello
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tajzx
how monero protect chain from forks except checkpoints
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tajzx
or how to create checkpoints at height = current height - 60 blocks
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dANBs[m]
kittypity[xmpp]: > *k4r4b3y[m]:* at least before NFTs, the speculative usage would still allow 1sat/b transactions to enter into next few blocks.
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dANBs[m]
>
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dANBs[m]
> *k4r4b3y[m]:* now I have to pay tens of thousands of sats in order to get a "sane" block entry time.
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dANBs[m]
Btc has had very persistent issue regarding the size of fees... for some reasone people use btc even though there are already better alternatives like Dash or monero or zcash
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k4r4b3y[m]
we need to shill monero as a better alternative to using btc
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k4r4b3y[m]
"shill. shill. shill. you were born to shill" --bitstein was right about this
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TrasherDK[m]
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k4r4b3y[m]
holy pentium!
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k4r4b3y[m]
and the bitmaxis tell "well with monero's tx size and no-cap block size, the cost of hardware to run a node is too high!!!"
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dANBs[m]
kittypity[xmpp]: > for some reasone people use btc even though there are already better alternatives like Dash or monero or zcash
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dANBs[m]
For some reason = hype and lack of interest in learning what other cryptocurrencies there are
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TrasherDK[m]
I'll probably have to rsync against up-to-date node, because this thing is never going to catch up 😂
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TrasherDK[m]
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TrasherDK[m]
Well, I tried.
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fr33_yourself[m]
<MajesticBank> "How & Why to Mine Monero, donate..." <- I would suggest it is better to use more fiat money to buy Monero. Everytime you exchange fiat for Monero you are adding an additional mini-boost to Monero's demand relative to its outstanding supply. By doing so it's price may rise. If it's price rises it suddenly may become profitable for honest miners to begin mining on their PCs
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dANBs[m]
kittypity[xmpp]: fr33_yourself[m]: so you are cryptocurrency market insider?
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fr33_yourself[m]
<spender> "my cell provider is blocking..." <- ^^^ This actually happened to you?
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fr33_yourself[m]
> <@bridgerton:matrix.org> <Encore>
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fr33_yourself[m]
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fr33_yourself[m]
LMAO. sounds like a beta who can't handle using the p2p network as friendly neighborhood cyber criminals
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fr33_yourself[m]
<rbrunner> "Seems the mordinals people..." <- The Empire Strikes Back
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fr33_yourself[m]
<ofrnxmr[m]> "there is already discussion..." <- Under future adversarial circumstances, I think Monero may need to standardize outputs. Gotta slay the first villain first Mr. m0rb
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RavFX
Been a few days they did the update. And it's good, it lowered the amount of generated crap on the blockchain by a lot
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RavFX
People don't want to pay to post there shitty images, what a surprise :joy:
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RavFX
But I'm with ofrnxmr, fields must be standarized somehow
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RavFX
OR wait, that was Fr33 too lol
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rbrunner
That took me totally by surprise, who would have thought that out of all possible people the Mordinals devs would enforce order
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rbrunner
Waiting for their next move, with a bowl of popcorn waiting, as not a single new Mordinal made it into their viewer web app for days
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Rucknium[m]
It is almost fortunate that the monerod release with the tx_extra relay limitation was delayed. Otherwise, we may have conflated correlation and causation.
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rbrunner
True, lol
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Rucknium[m]
Let this be a lesson.
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Rucknium[m]
Causation is very difficult to establish.
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merope1
I'm just waiting for the day people stop talking about that crap
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merope1
Then it will be truly dead
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rbrunner
Just read today that the number of Ordinals on the BTC blockchain is approaching 1 million. It may take a while until *that* dies down.
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merope1
Luckily, we're not btc :D
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RavFX
You can really see how bad it is on Bitcoin, Blockchain size go brrrr
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RavFX[m]
Can really see how the bitcoin size chart flexed in early feb
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RavFX[m]
Just by a look at it, I would say it grow ~25% faster
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RavFX[m]
* grow ~25-50% faster
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Rucknium[m]
AFAIK, that's because more data is allowed in the witness part of a block. Ordinals are stored there.
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RavFX[m]
Rucknium[m]: Yes, It's what I read.
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tajzx
how monero is protected if someone delete blockchain file and start new one from the beginning
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RavFX
It will be deleted just for the person who deleted it.
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RavFX
new chain won't be used by any other nodes
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tajzx
if nodes are > than nodes that start new chain fork wont happen
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mlcboss[m]
hello , is it stupid to give my country origin?
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RavFX
Just not recommended. You can say you're continent or something to give an idea without being precise.
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mlcboss[m]
anyone having a hard time to do trades in local monero?
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mlcboss[m]
open my offers for weeks seem no one intrested :/
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mlcboss[m]
ig monero isn't that popular
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RavFX
Depend of youre location
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RavFX
I can open more localmonero order during a day and having them completed in less than 10 minutes
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mlcboss[m]
RavFX: SEA
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mlcboss[m]
SEA = South East Asia
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mlcboss[m]
RavFX: payment method?
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RavFX
Cash at ATM (contact give you a code, you walk to random ATM and put said code, money flow out of atm)
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mlcboss[m]
RavFX: what country?
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mlcboss[m]
i currently need to buy monero not sell them cause im not a miner
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RavFX
Latin america
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RavFX
To buy monero can just open a contract with someone that want a bank deposit. Then you can go in random convenient store to deposit money in said accound
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mlcboss[m]
is monero huge on there?
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RavFX
Maybe, probably bigger than average
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mlcboss[m]
RavFX: i can't buy monero with bank transfer cause no one accept them
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mlcboss[m]
most accept payment method i don't even heard
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TheDisruptiveCol
> <@mlcboss:matrix.org> i can't buy monero with bank transfer cause no one accept them
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TheDisruptiveCol
>
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TheDisruptiveCol
> most accept payment method i don't even heard
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TheDisruptiveCol
what country are you in?
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RavFX
Do you have more contact on agoradesk size for BTC?
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RavFX
s/size/side/
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mlcboss[m]
TheDisruptiveCol: SEA , RAVFX said is not recommended to share my country
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mlcboss[m]
RavFX: idk what is that
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TheDisruptiveCol
mlcboss[m]: Well i mean if you're buying meth i guess. lol
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mlcboss[m]
i just want to buy monero but my local exchange don't have them
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TheDisruptiveCol
mlcboss[m]: So buy something you can buy, and use something like wizardswap or even something shitty like Changelly or BasicSwap if you can run it.
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RavFX
localmonero and agoradesk are own by the same and work the same. Agoradesk allow BTC and XMR trade while localmonero only do monero. You don't need a new account, you can login using youre localmonero account
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TheDisruptiveCol
s/or//
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RavFX
Unstoppable swap still work?
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TheDisruptiveCol
BasicSwap provides solutions for this. Just buy BTC or something and Atomic flip it.
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mlcboss[m]
TheDisruptiveCol: correct me if im wrong , isn't that will ruin monero privacy?
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mlcboss[m]
do i need to wash my bitcoin or no?
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TheDisruptiveCol
mlcboss[m]: I don't know what you're trying to achieve, or your threat model so i can't say neither can anyone else.
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RavFX
Depend where you get you're BTC, if it's pre-vetted
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TheDisruptiveCol
BasicSwap is a truly DEX btw, Changelly isn't. WizardSwap and MajesticBank are the same type of shit. Just some guy hosting a swap script.
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mlcboss[m]
TheDisruptiveCol: i want to buy mullvad
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RavFX
Atomic scam was looking great when I was trying but people never got a contract completed and spread was ugly (Note: Tested it when it was fresh new beta, did not retry since them)
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RavFX
s/atomic swap/basicscap/
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TheDisruptiveCol
RavFX: BSX is just new, it needs more liquidity and for people to actually start using it.
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mlcboss[m]
is monero mining worth it or no?
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mlcboss[m]
mining so i can get monero to buy mullvad
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RavFX
It's worth it when you get free and unlimited electricity
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TrasherDK[m]
Changelly is a wellknown scam exchange. Stop pushing that shit.
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RavFX
It's about on par depending where you are (if you want to convert electricity into monero)
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RavFX
use trocador for swapper
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TheDisruptiveCol
TrasherDK[m]: It pays, just the rates are shit. same as change.io and all the rest of them, even MajesticBank and Wizard Swap have fucking horrendous exchange rates.
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mlcboss[m]
i can't fing monero mining rig
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mlcboss[m]
only ethereum?
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mlcboss[m]
they will work the same right?
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RavFX
Because Monero mine with CPU, not GPU
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mlcboss[m]
it doesn't matter
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RavFX
you can mine with you're very PC (performance can vary greatly)
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mlcboss[m]
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mlcboss[m]
is this will work , there is monero logo on it?
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merope1
No
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merope1
Monero is mined with CPUs: xmrig.com/benchmark
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merope1
mlcboss[m]: Depends on your electricity cost and your expectations
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mlcboss[m]
RavFX: i don't mind losing some money for electricity
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mlcboss[m]
i just need monero coin to buy mullvad
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mlcboss[m]
merope1: 5$/mo , how much the rig will cost to produce that?
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RavFX
what is you're cpu?
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mlcboss[m]
RavFX: i don't have a desktop , the cpu it intel 8th gen
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mlcboss[m]
very crap + i don't want to mine on my personal computera
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RavFX
Then get a 16 cores ryzen
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TrasherDK[m]
<TheDisruptiveCol> "It pays, just the rates are shit..." <-
reddit.com/r/monero/wiki/avoid/#wiki_exchanges
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mlcboss[m]
merope1: everyone sell gpu rig?
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mlcboss[m]
i search monero mining rig on google most of them are gpu's rig?
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RavFX
and two stick of dual rank DDR4 3200+, CL14 or last choice CL16
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merope1
> <@mlcboss:matrix.org> everyone sell gpu rig?
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merope1
>
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merope1
> i search monero mining rig on google most of them are gpu's rig?
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merope1
Monero was mined with gpus before November 2021. After that, it pretty much became cpu only
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mlcboss[m]
is there a prebuilt rig? i can't build computers from scratch
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mlcboss[m]
*someone selling
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merope1
(Technically you could still use a gpu, but they are horribly inefficient with the new algorithm, you will be losing a lot of money and nobody does it)
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mlcboss[m]
can't find on amazon ,most sell gpu rigs
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RavFX
Buy a prebuild PC with a 16 cores Ryzen CPU and proper ram (unfortunately that mostly limit you to gaming PC)
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merope1
mlcboss[m]: Get a prebuilt desktop with a ryzen cpu then
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TheDisruptiveCol
> <@mlcboss:matrix.org> everyone sell gpu rig?
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TheDisruptiveCol
>
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TheDisruptiveCol
> i search monero mining rig on google most of them are gpu's rig?
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TheDisruptiveCol
you can't mine XMR with a GPU
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merope1
But building a pc is very easy to build these days
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TheDisruptiveCol
If you're gonna mine XMR, just buy a threadripper pro
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mlcboss[m]
RavFX: thanks for the tips , i will go to local store to made one
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TheDisruptiveCol
and 128GB of Ram.
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TheDisruptiveCol
lol
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merope1
TheDisruptiveCol: Technically, you can. It's just a complete waste of time due to the terrible performance
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mlcboss[m]
ram is no necessary right?
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RavFX
you want 2 x 16 gb of dual rank sticks DDR3200+, CL14 is a must
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TheDisruptiveCol
mlcboss[m]: More Ram is always a win.
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merope1
TheDisruptiveCol: Not for mining
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merope1
Stop giving bad info
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RavFX
2 x 8GB work too but you are going to get less performance if it's not dual rank (most if not all 8GB stick are not dual ranks)
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TheDisruptiveCol
merope1: its not bad info, put your tampon back in.
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TheDisruptiveCol
which would you buy a threadripper and then use 8gb of RAM.
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TheDisruptiveCol
its just retarded
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mlcboss[m]
btw is it safe to use a prebuilt pc that aren't built for mining?
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mlcboss[m]
cause it will be left mining 24/7
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TheDisruptiveCol
If you're spending $6000 on a CPU, you can stretch to 64GB min.
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merope1
Sure you can. It's just a complete waste and won't get you any extra performance
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RavFX
if you get 64 GB in the form of 2 x 32GB it's fine as long as they are dual rank and not these weird quad rank sticks). 4 x 16GB stick, they have to be single rank or you are going to lose performances.
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merope1
And threadripper has a pretty low hash/$ value, compared to multiple ryzens for the same budget
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RavFX
so for 64GB if you don't build it yourself you are likely to get less performance
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merope1
>
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merope1
> cause it will be left mining 24/7
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merope1
Yes, as long as you check that it's not overheating. A good ballpark is to keep the cpu around 70°C, though as long as you stay under 80°C is fine if you keep an eye on it
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merope1
Btw, join #xmrmine:matrix.org for dedicated mining info
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mlcboss[m]
cpu recommendations for mining monero?
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mlcboss[m]
atleast needed 15,000 H/s according to miner stat i can earn 11$/mo with 0.1$/kwh
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RavFX
My old Ryzen 3950x do 19K
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merope1
<merope1> "Monero is mined with CPUs: xmrig..." <- ^
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RavFX
but memory is optimized, else it do like 16-17
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TheDisruptiveCol
in the cloud for free lol
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Rucknium[m]
mlcboss: If you have skills, you could earn XMR instead:
bounties.monero.social
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mlcboss[m]
merope1: pretty detailed list , im thinking getting amd ryzen 9 (3k/5k/13k) depends the store availability
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mlcboss[m]
btw correct me if im wrong , if more miner joined the network my cpu will produce less hashrate
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mlcboss[m]
less hashrate = lesser rewards?
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merope1
your cpu will produce the same hashrate, but the network difficulty goes up so your hashrate earns less
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merope1
you can think of it like more people sharing the same pie
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MajesticBank
TheDisruptiveCol: tnx for the review tho, majesticbank is all but a simple script, as our service compose of 10+ bare metal dedicated servers, just the hosting cost is around 10k usd monthly
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TheDisruptiveCol
MajesticBank: lol ok but is it a DEX?
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MajesticBank
got in touch with binarybaron from Unstoppableswap tho, will setup our swap in 3-4 days to help the protocol until farcaster team is back from vacation
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TheDisruptiveCol
MajesticBank: i'm not shitting on your service btw, MJ and WS provide a valuable option for many who don't know how to use a DEX like BSX or have any localmonero options
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MajesticBank
in the background, there are independent nodes, distributed that verify each other work and sign transactions, the way you access it could be say it is centralized, there are some trade offs, I don't see how
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MajesticBank
how some things like privacy can be implemented without exchange based monero fully
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MajesticBank
if the seller send you bitcoin or eth for swap ( talking about p2p mode ) he can track you, so you have to trust the sellers
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MajesticBank
I am haveno shill tho, if any part of haveno profits hit the general fund, we are lit
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lza_menace
those are fancy marketing terms, but TheDisruptiveCol is still right, it's a script...people send funds to your custodial wallets, you do some business logic, and determine if/when when to send funds to other side
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lza_menace
how you choose to host it and how much it costs doesn't matter to your end user and doesn't add safety values
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MajesticBank
script describe it as something simple, custodial and centralized yes it is, but script it's not, maybe software ?
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MajesticBank
well don't agree on privacy and safety values tho
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MajesticBank
if you are running your service on USA vps and location of your server is known, what privacy can you promise over customer data
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lza_menace
script, software, programmatic workflow, automated business logic, etc...all the same under the hood
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lza_menace
i think that's the point, anyone can promise anything. i can run a VPS with a provider in another country and promise my users the safest custodial service, but i cannot truly guarantee safety and security
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MajesticBank
I must agree on some points, no doubt, boils down to trusting someone
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MajesticBank
I give my best to protect every bit of data, we spend most of the time on devops, following latest security standards, isolation, containers
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lza_menace
right on
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k4r4b3y[m]
<MajesticBank> "I am haveno shill tho, if any..." <- is haveno still alive?
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RavFX
Yes, Still waiting for it to be released
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k4r4b3y[m]
is the UI work still chugging along, or are they still on a strike?
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plowsof11
on strike - it will launch with the legacy UI
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k4r4b3y[m]
RavFX: guessing they don't have an ETA, right?
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RavFX
Good question. The beta I tested did use a tweaked Bisq UI
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k4r4b3y[m]
plowsof11: ffs... still better than nothing, I guess.
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RavFX
ETA was end of march if I remember
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k4r4b3y[m]
RavFX: lol
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plowsof11
give htem 5 years, stop rushing people
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plowsof11
at the moment its literally 1 person woodser doing almost everything
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k4r4b3y[m]
plowsof11: "it is ready when it is ready"
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k4r4b3y[m]
plowsof11: cake's code munkeys not helping?
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plowsof11
im not going to reveal that i am the cake ceo using an alt account in public
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k4r4b3y[m]
change the monero.com wallets name for god's sakes..
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k4r4b3y[m]
horrible horrible name for a wallet
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k4r4b3y[m]
akin to naming one's self kim dot com
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plowsof11
stack wallets "monero and bitcoin" wallet is called Stack Duo
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plowsof11
also Havenos commit history to see who is doing what
github.com/haveno-dex/haveno/commits/master
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luna24[m]
<TheDisruptiveCol> "i'm not shitting on your service..." <- True, I just bought some matic at a coinstar though so 😂
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luna24[m]
No KYC needed, just a phone number for a security code on the machine
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luna24[m]
So just buy a coin like that, and swap it on uni or pancake 🤷🏻♂️
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TheDisruptiveCol
<luna24[m]> "True, I just bought some matic..." <- a lot of people would prefer to go that way from cash to coin anyway.
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TheDisruptiveCol
even with localmonero you need a bank account, some people might not have one.
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luna24[m]
Yeh no 100%
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RavFX
I don't have one :p Fortunately I don't need one for localmonero use
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RavFX
free countries have way to go around bank requirement (Withdraw code without card at ATM, deposit in banks account from random convenient stores, etc, etc)
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RavFX
Can buy shit from aliexpress on amazon by paying at a random convenient store too, what's the use of a bank account at that point?
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RavFX
s/on/or/
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great_taste
I bet you have very low limits?
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luna24[m]
RavFX: Pretty much I only use mine for savings account and digital purchases/bills
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RavFX
Can withdraw like ~500$ equivalent in USD per ATM run indeed, so if you want more you open more contract with more people
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luna24[m]
I just started a new job so I’m just gonna be splitting my money up into crypto, savings, and fuck around funds
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RavFX
Also pay bills at the convenient store lol
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luna24[m]
True
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luna24[m]
Y’all hear the USA is moving towards a centralized digital currency to replace the USD?
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RavFX
Yes, fortunally not living there lol
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great_taste
1st world countries are the worst place to be
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RavFX
Exactly, It's why I left my initial "first world country"
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RavFX
First world countries are the one that also want all the control and tracking
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luna24[m]
True
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RavFX
Because they can afford it and enforce it
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luna24[m]
USA is a third country with a trench coat atm tryna be a first world
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luna24[m]
Third world*
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RavFX
USA is a failing empire, they try to stay afloat
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RavFX
No empire stay at the top forever, they all fall given enough time
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luna24[m]
Like people here use crypto as day traders, where Africa and parts of the EU use it as a day to day currency
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luna24[m]
It’s kinda scuffed tbh
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great_taste
USA has become a complete joke, their president is a perfect representation of their state of decay
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luna24[m]
The president doesn’t even have power anymore
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luna24[m]
They are legit just puppets
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RavFX
yep.
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great_taste
puppets to the Israeli state
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luna24[m]
Elections don’t matter, they give a false sense of democracy in a country that isn’t even a democracy
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RavFX
But they tried to sell democracy to africa lol
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luna24[m]
Like the populous doesn’t even realize we are a democratic republic 💀
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luna24[m]
The only issue with Africa is the instability in certain regions caused by US intervention like South Africa
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luna24[m]
Same with most of the Middle East
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RavFX
Yep, Latin America is actually better when you use crypto as day to day money (ask me how I know)
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luna24[m]
Everyone growing up here thought the US were Jedi’s but failed to see it was the empire all along
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RavFX
Network Infrastructure is better, that also go for network stability if you are a day trader
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luna24[m]
RavFX: Brasil?
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luna24[m]
True
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great_taste
what is a good debit card you can fund with crypto these days?
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luna24[m]
Cl from ledger
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luna24[m]
It’s a debit though but it uses stable coins, btc and eth
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great_taste
hmm
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luna24[m]
No need for a bank account or anything afaik, just 100$ in coins in your wallets on ledger
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luna24[m]
Which I mean if your privacy focused like most of monero users, you should have a ledger for coke storage anyways
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luna24[m]
Cold*
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RavFX
But the ledger card is very limited in what country you can be when you order it right?
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luna24[m]
Nope
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luna24[m]
Not that I’m aware anyway
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luna24[m]
It has both a physical and digital so
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RavFX
We use to have nice prepaid CC back in ~2017 then most provider decided to scam
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luna24[m]
And runs off visa afaik
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RavFX
now it eater "Only in USA" or "Only in europe"
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luna24[m]
Could be Mastercard though
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luna24[m]
Idk,
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luna24[m]
With cl it costs like 5$ for the physical card or you can just use the digital one
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great_taste
"The CL Card powered by Ledger and provided by Baanx is currently available to UK and EEA* customers."
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luna24[m]
Imo I’d just spend the extra money for the physical
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RavFX
Can't even subscribe to CL, the thing is borked lol
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RavFX
"Require at least one special caracter"... I did put a 64 caracters password that probably include a douzen of these lol
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RavFX
Thanks for leting me know so I don't give info for no reason... So as expected EU & EX-EU
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RavFX
Fortunately I don't need card as cash is still king
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great_taste
how do you pay for things online tho?
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great_taste
it's so frustrating that to this date most places will only accept visa/mastercard....
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RavFX
I choose "Cash" payment method. They give me a code, I go to random convenient store, give them the code then the pile of cash
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RavFX
it work for Amazon and Aliexpress, like the two place I buy online
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RavFX
And for Amazon.com (us version), one can go on coincards and buy giftcards to finance the amazon account
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RavFX
Stuff like Steam, can pay cash also, or just go to bitrefill
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luna24[m]
True
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luna24[m]
Prepared cards or gift cards
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RavFX
In the "first world", prepaid cards is the only way. In what they call "thirld world", you can also use cash.. way better lol
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RavFX
For USA there is Cakepay that seam to be decent
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RavFX
I think to do 0 conf so you can get the giftcard for the exact required amount at the register without making everyone behind wait
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d34d8its[m]
Avoid mybitcoingiftcards and prepaidify, they both scammed me and others.
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d34d8its[m]
Ive had good results with cakepay, coinsbee, allark, and coinsgate.
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RavFX
coincards.com, allark is what I usually recommend
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luna24[m]
Noice
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luna24[m]
So I’m thinking of writing my own block chain, I think I want start as a fork of the polkadot network btw not sure cuz I want to make a privacy centric version of it
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luna24[m]
Any recommendations on articles and information for where I can find out how to get started et.?
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luna24[m]
Etc*
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RavFX
I made one like 10 years ago. Googling "How to clone litecoin" gave all the answers
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luna24[m]
Makes sense haha
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RavFX
You can also look at coin that forked from another one. In there git you can often see the comit on where they forked, and so all the changes.You also need to do some work for making the genesis block
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luna24[m]
Wdym genesis block?
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luna24[m]
Like the first block I’m assuming?
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RavFX
Yeah, you have to mine it then hardcode it's hash into the code as far as I remember
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mlcboss[m]
<RavFX> "free countries have way to go..." <- i believed all countries does this?
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mlcboss[m]
what happened to the unbanked if this can't happened?
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RavFX[m]
> <@mlcboss:matrix.org> i believed all countries does this?
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RavFX[m]
>
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RavFX[m]
> what happened to the unbanked if this can't happened?
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RavFX[m]
You can only be unbanked in free countries (that exclude all of the "first world"
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RavFX[m]
In the "first world: you have to be KYCed to own anything and you have to be banked
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RavFX
Try to get a flat in the first world as an unbanked for fun
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RavFX
You can't because they all want credit check so it's not free if you are not free to live a confortable life without having to buy into the ponzi
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RavFX
While in the "second/third world", to get a flat, all you need is some advance in cash, no question asked, and often, no "contracts"
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luna24[m]
<RavFX> "Yeah, you have to mine it then..." <- Oo, sounds fun, idk what I want the concerns us to be, I feel PoW would be more wildly adapted and get a following behind over PoS/PoH
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RavFX
PoW if more fair imo. You can't jut buy 51% of the supply in one go...
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luna24[m]
Yeh no that’s what I was thinking
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luna24[m]
Granted PoH is also a good choice though,
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luna24[m]
PoS does offer scalability
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mlcboss[m]
how is PoS more scalable than PoW?
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mlcboss[m]
is just a different way to validate a block
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merope1
Some argue that PoS is a less resource-intensive system
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DanIsnotthemanBr
Nah
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merope1
The problem is that, even if that were true, it still breaks decentralization
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DanIsnotthemanBr
Having no mining saves the world Apprently
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merope1
PoS means that you cannot enter the ecosystem unless you buy your way into it. But for the seller, selling those coins means giving away some of their staking power
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DanIsnotthemanBr
Wonder whats going to happen with eth and the “upgrade”
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merope1
So the rich and powerful have a strong incentive to hoard all the coins and not sell them, to stay rich and powerful, while the "poor" people keep their power fragmented
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merope1
It already happened. Shortly after the switch, there were some reports that things got extremely centralized, way worse than they were with PoW
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DanIsnotthemanBr
Shanghai upgrade?
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merope1
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merope1
Not sure which one that was, I don't follow eth that closely
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DanIsnotthemanBr
There is one thats coming up which allows staking to be withdraw
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DanIsnotthemanBr
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merope1
Wait, so all the people who have been staking so far were stuck with it and couldn't even pull out?
-
merope1
LMAO
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merope1
"Some validators have had their funds locked up since December 2020" Holy shit
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DanIsnotthemanBr
Yeah lol
-
merope1
Another day, another reason to love Monero's double-hardfork system
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DanIsnotthemanBr
Proof of scam
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DanIsnotthemanBr
Or piece of shit
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luna24[m]
<merope1> "Wait, so all the people who have..." <- You can “stake” using lido, but it costs an arbitrary amount of gas to “unstake”
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merope1
Thus reinforcing centralization
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luna24[m]
Which all lido does is turn eth into staked eth which is a token pegged to the value of eth, and then give rewards in staked eth and swap it back to eth when you “unstake”
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luna24[m]
It’s shit
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luna24[m]
Idk how eth is as popular as it is tbh with how expensive it is to do legit ANYTHING on the network
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merope1
Maybe that's the key
-
merope1
Make everything expensive af to sucker people into pouring even more money into it
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merope1
Like they do for "luxury" items irl
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merope1
Vote to raise xmr tx fees to 1 xmr/byte
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luna24[m]
Make it .5xmr lol
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luna24[m]
merope1: Not wrong, even my math professor last semester owned eth and had no idea about anything about it, just owned it cuz she heard it was a good short term hold
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ofrnxmr[m]
your math prifessor needs a new job
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nioc
eth enables the easy creation of tokens that then do not need to be listed on an exchange in order to buy and sell them
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merope1
One that doesn't involve math
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ofrnxmr[m]
100% premine. math nit prifessir strong point
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nioc
ofrnxmr[m]: math equation >> ngu = good
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ofrnxmr[m]
eth is a bigger scam than zcash who is following in foorsteps, but with only 20% of supply
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DanIsnotthemanBr
Securities
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luna24[m]
ofrnxmr[m]: Didn’t zec sue another coin for some shit 😂
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ofrnxmr[m]
nioc: only worjs when eth is cheap
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orion_midast[m]
Do I need a degree in life ?
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orion_midast[m]
wrong chat sorry lol
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ofrnxmr[m]
otherwise you use xmr fir your nfts
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DanIsnotthemanBr
I’ll hide eth in tx_extra
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luna24[m]
nioc: Only when it’s cheap, otherwise you get stuck in situations like I am where your matic gets stored in eth instead of polygon and it costs 30$ to move it over
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ofrnxmr[m]
or solana, oolygon, 18 node bnb
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nioc
what is cheap?
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luna24[m]
Solana, matic, polkadot,
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ofrnxmr[m]
xmr
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ofrnxmr[m]
solana
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luna24[m]
Polkadot is cheap af
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DanIsnotthemanBr
Imagine stopping blockchain cause it got hacked
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luna24[m]
Def a cool network too, it’s pretty much a bridge for majority of blockchains that stuff like uniswap utilize
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ofrnxmr[m]
eth is just "pump the 70% premine"
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nioc
at one time $800 btc was very expensive
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ofrnxmr[m]
by "artificially restructing supply fir years"
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luna24[m]
DanIsnotthemanBr: Was about to say that
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luna24[m]
Solana is I think the only block chain in history that’s legit just stopped entirely
-
luna24[m]
Plus it’s written in rust which is just disgusting
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ofrnxmr[m]
nah
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DanIsnotthemanBr
Twice i think
-
nioc
<ofrnxmr[m]> xmr <<>> wownero
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ofrnxmr[m]
haven?
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luna24[m]
Was it twice 😂😂
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nioc
an invitation to shill :D
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ofrnxmr[m]
nioc: 1000
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ofrnxmr[m]
haven termux node coming soon
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ofrnxmr[m]
eta 2yrs
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ofrnxmr[m]
ofrnxmr[m]: errrrr i mean WOW
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plowsof11
eth tx fees are so high so im jut going to leave it on an exchange where other people can long/short with it
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luna24[m]
Isn’t wownero just a token on monero?
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ofrnxmr[m]
no
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luna24[m]
plowsof11: Pancake swap 😏
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ofrnxmr[m]
monero diesbt have tokens
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ofrnxmr[m]
monero is money
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ofrnxmr[m]
not gas
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luna24[m]
Isn’t xmr technically a token 💀
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DanIsnotthemanBr
World of warcraft
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ofrnxmr[m]
no
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ofrnxmr[m]
xmr usnt a token
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DanIsnotthemanBr
luna24[m]: Way of life
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ofrnxmr[m]
0xmonero is a token
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luna24[m]
Nah, WoW is life
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ofrnxmr[m]
apepoo is a token
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nioc
lol
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ofrnxmr[m]
tokens are trc ErC evm copy paste 2 secind deploynenrts on somone elses blockchain
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ofrnxmr[m]
eth isnt a token
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ofrnxmr[m]
"everything" built on eth is
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DanIsnotthemanBr
Network
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nioc
disclaimer: I am an ai trained on a limited dataset
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ofrnxmr[m]
*eth is a traitor
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TheDisruptiveCol
ETH is a bankers chain, along with XRPL and a few others that fall into that ISO200022 crowd.
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TheDisruptiveCol
s/ISO200022/ISO20022/
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ofrnxmr[m]
eth isnt a banker chain
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ofrnxmr[m]
its an obvious joke
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ofrnxmr[m]
its a pump and rug pull
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ofrnxmr[m]
rob the "smart" prifessor, and the kids they teach
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ofrnxmr[m]
the tokenomics if etc are a joke. theres nothing abiut eth that says "viable as a dectralized anything". its just a wiid west where white collar criminals are allowed to rob lottery ticket buyers
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ofrnxmr[m]
eth doesnt work
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ofrnxmr[m]
in theory, its amazing. in practice, its a nikola car
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luna24[m]
ofrnxmr[m]: Fr fr
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plowsof11
how is monero technically a token 💢kskskskks
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luna24[m]
My mom doesn’t even know anything about crypto and I showed her a video from whiteboard crypto about it and she was like “how tf is it still popular?”
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luna24[m]
plowsof11: Coin on a network that also is responsible for governance of the network lol
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ofrnxmr[m]
so when people come iver here asking for web3.5 nonsense, i say... when it works on some east yo use POC joke chain, we can talk. fact us, it diesnt work
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ofrnxmr[m]
look at thorchain, dydx, nfts, uniswap
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DanIsnotthemanBr
Plowsof is a token, dan is a network
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ofrnxmr[m]
luna24[m]: the coin plays no role in givernance
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ofrnxmr[m]
im rich af and nobody listens to me
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ofrnxmr[m]
ofrnxmr is the alt
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plowsof11
luna24: show your mother this video, it will help her alot
youtube.com/watch?v=0ZK5WLU2lGQ
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ofrnxmr[m]
thats ofrnxnr ^
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ofrnxmr[m]
i go to jail in the movie
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luna24[m]
😂
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plowsof11
why are you laughing?
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nioc
plowsof11: >> #monero-parody
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ofrnxmr[m]
its serious
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DanIsnotthemanBr
You using tails now in jail?
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ofrnxmr[m]
luna
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plowsof11
nioc lolollol
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ofrnxmr[m]
i usually cgarge 1000/min
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ofrnxmr[m]
thus us my resune
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ofrnxmr[m]
plowsif thinks im asking fir too much
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ofrnxmr[m]
so i iffer 400/min fir 10 mins worth of videis
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ofrnxmr[m]
yo. i miss autocirrect
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DanIsnotthemanBr
*
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nioc
I miss proof reading
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ofrnxmr[m]
im jk
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ofrnxmr[m]
i just have an accent
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DanIsnotthemanBr
Prove your reading
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ofrnxmr[m]
i cant read -_-
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ofrnxmr[m]
i just press text dictation
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ofrnxmr[m]
and let it read it back
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luna24[m]
ofrnxmr[m]: Yes?
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luna24[m]
plowsof11: My messages are just hella delayed
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ofrnxmr[m]
the video abive, faur deal yes?
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ofrnxmr[m]
fair
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luna24[m]
I’ll watch it later to give a fair answer lol
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ofrnxmr[m]
ok ty
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luna24[m]
Why tf is my zec message constantly coming back when I close the app and reopen it
-
luna24[m]
I think I broke element
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ofrnxmr[m]
zec broke element
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luna24[m]
Zec breaks everything
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ofrnxmr[m]
laggy blockchain
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luna24[m]
Fr fr
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DanIsnotthemanBr
Element broke element
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DanIsnotthemanBr
Clear cache