hey uh this may sound dumb but uh is there a website for funding like thats similiar to uh gofundme iirc its called

Work in progress: bitejo or kuno

I made kuno.bitejo.com but in the process of finding a new operator. The code is here: codeberg.org/anarkio/kuno There is also xmrstarter.com and github.com/plowsof/xmr-wishlist-aaS. AFAIK you can also make a fundraiser with BTCPayServer.org's crowdfunding app.

plowsof @plowsof:matrix.org: any update on valldrac's request for more money to develop the Android SDK?

?

This is more accurate

Went from server too sdk

was there another CCS made?

Nope

<idkrn[m]> "?" <- ¿

<DanIsnotthemanBr> "repo.getmonero.org..." <- yeah i saw that. not sure to who the request is being made

would they need to open a new proposal?

Community

Issue to me is that it wasnt completed

And now changing the funded proposal

And took took two years before a peep on the progress

s/took//

<TrasherDK[m]> " Work in progress: bitejo or..." <- ah oki thanks :D

also uh can i change my name on my wallet

cuz uh i found my old wallet i created a few year ago uses my irl name and i wanna chnage it

Retro-Hax: Your wallets name does not leak. It's not visible to anyone other than you.

oh okay phew

also cakewallet isnt in f-droid it seems or will i have to enable a specific repo?

<Retro-Hax[m]> "also cakewallet isnt in f-..." <- you can download apk from its github or website

by nature cakewallet maybe having many non-free dependencies and non-free network services like price api , exhange services , gift cards etc

ah alright

thats why it doesn't make sense to list it on fdroid

i wouldn't say being on fdroid means it legit. just means they sign the repo cause it matches there criteria

apk would be sauce of truth really

where is the xmrig libera channel ?

There is none

what are the webminers I have for monero ? other than monero ocean ?

<kevino[m]> "thats why it doesn't make..." <- really no blocker. just cakedoesbt have manpower to set it up

HighQualityAgent[xmpp]: Braxman is based

braxman who ?

braxman that shows up regularly on the yewtu.be front-page

>he based

has he mentioned XMR recently or something?

More he would make a coin and shill it

* More like he would

<DanIsnotthemanBr> "And took took two years before a..." <- ok but the sdk is major part of the molly xmr wallet

its also extremely beneficial to the android monero wallet ecosystem

with monerujo moving to dart, Android is losing its only monero lib

good points, feedback like that is essential. would be nice to get monerujo wallets devs thoughts on the sdk (waiting for a readme / demo apk and such), will be soon

monerujo is moving to dart in order to go cross platform, there is no reason for them to continue supporting the current android lib

valldrac's sdk adds extra security measures and is written in kotlin, which is the preferred android language noe

s/noe/today/

once monerujo goes iOS, all major mobile wallets will be based on the same framework/language (3 wallets are based on same lib) so an alternative is more essential than ever

What about pokkst's Mysu wallet?

currently based on monerujo's monero lib

Right. So pokkst would keep developing the android lib. Probably. Maybe someone can ask him.

And then Stack wallet

says who? even if he did, valldracs sdk is a major improvement

and stack is based on a fork of cuck's monero dart lib

I'm not saying that Molly's SDK shouldn't be supported. We need all the information.

a modern, secure android sdk could help inspire a new generation of android wallets

moneros mobile wallet space is dominated by a few major players, anything to help combat that is a win

Normally, Monero code has to pass a rigorous review, before being released into the wild. Did any of these implementations go through the same process, or is it someone doing their own thing?

AFAIK there are no official 3rd party reviews of the code yet

but it doesn't make much sense at an early stage anyway

luna24: r4v3r23 : Here's my analysis of Mordinals' privacy impact, as promised: reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/12kv5m…acy_impact_of_mordinals_monero_nfts

Thank you 🙏

I’ll take a gander in a bit, doing stats homework for college lol

Rucknium: thanks for this

Did I just read "monero" and "dart" in the same context? I love everything about this.

is monero fucked?

I heard what happened with mordinals I thought they were gone

what happened with them

plowsof11: Apparently they are allowed and you can put NFTs on the blockchain now which has impacts on privacy

GET RID OF THIS

i had not heard of this. so they specifically reduce the ring set... that seems... not the best?

what's the point of NFT but it's private?

since all of xmr user is anonymous

like NFT A will be owned by anon

click on the reddit thread and read. theres some pretty graphs too. any confusions ask away

the mordinals devs increased the tx fee for them to be displayed on their site. theyre dead. no one cares anymore

now we even have a new release that will stop them from being mined / broadcast getmonero.org/2023/04/04/monero-GUI-0.18.2.2-released.html

why stopped them using monero blockchain?

just let them have fun with their stupid NFT

they paid a space for a block right so why prevent them?

an MRL member carried out some serious / time intensive research and posted a reddit thread above.

Rucknium[m]: amazing work man, on point

probably lost sleep over trying to make it as digestible as possible .... with pretty graphs diagrams

the least you could do mlcboss is glance over it

MajesticBank: Thank you.

This is a decent write up on reddit. what I think is a bit funny is how intuitive this is and yet they still tried it.

I'm not a fan of the "they paid for space" argument but i am a fan of real world stress tests. I guess at least this tested the chain.

plowsof @plowsof:matrix.org: answer your DM

plowsof @plowsof:matrix.org: mine too

<cornfeedhobo> "I'm not a fan of the "they..." <- this was as much of a stress test as your doctor telling you to walk for 5 minutes

theres nothing stopping a real stress test from being conducted

the "spam" garbage nfts was 1 actor - to say its done is insane

thats just one 12 year old using his moms old laptop

and his birthday money

a dedicated txextra abuser can do much worse than store 1-10kb ai art

hey now you are complaining about free stress-tests..

lmao

just finjshed saying this wasnt a stress test

this was absolute nonchalant 0 effort spam

and by spam, i mean garbage. not quantity

they never once hit top speed, never even broke the speed limit

stress testing the tires by rolling them indoors at 1mph isnt a stress test - utterly useless

nothing they did changed the math

they soread out 1 days worth of spam over a month. thats not a stress test by any metric

and people freaked out at a 1:30 dilution of the potential lol? now nothing has changed and everything is OK because morb devs explorer doesnt show nfts

maybe people actually care abiut NFTs SPECIFICALLY

its not about nfts.

its about the design of monero

if all you have to do is pay some money for txextra, that money should go to node operators

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<r4v3r23[m]> "ok but the sdk is major part..." <- Thats fine, but why make a proposal for some then not even do and then do something else and then ask for more money and also say nothing for 1 1/2yrs. Normally this would ring bells like a scam.

s/some/something/

Thats my issue

he could have used monerujos sdk and claimed the milestones and not gave a F about the security issues

better scam, he would get paid in full then

Should of said early on this is alot, i want to amend the proposal or close it and do another one

Optics look bad

i didnt like the 2~ year going awol so i started asking him for udpates and got them recently

Yeeep

we focused on 3 problem ccs'

solopt,animated videos,and molly

DanIsnotthemanBr: 80% of a new monero lib isn't a scam

And then actually do something recently and then ask for more money

If you look at the events its how a ponzi scheme is ran

Not saying hes dodgy

r4v3r23[m]: Not saying hes scamming, saying the bs that took over 1yr to get a response or movement

a ponzi that delivers?

Delivers on what

The proposal was server

right, the sdk is a step towards that

Say you sign a contract to do something and then you do something completely different thats breach of contrsct

its not like the molly ccs is getting paid out yet

s/contrsct/contract/

exactly

Line needs to be drawn

well the work he did did not really fit the first CCS

So he should do a new one for the work on the wallet

an oversight - he made the mistake of assuming that the monero wallet ecosystem had its shit together

This is the way

If he's 80% done, he could cash out the new proposal before finally getting to work on the old one

sometimes hiding the problem... and tyring your best to get it done 'tomorrow' turns into 2 years

If your up front thats fine

whilst still maintaining a messaging app which afaik had another release a few days ago

* new proposal sonn before finally

we got the full honest disclosure

Not pushing the issue down the hill until now

can the ccs pay for work done? nope

work already done outside of an open ccs*

Whats the payout until now?

zero , are you happy now

nothing

no milestones are achieved so nada

Close and make a new one

Cant make a milestone payment if you Havn’t reached one

the wallet sdk would ideally be a new ccs , seperate from the molly one

Is the work done good in quality? Did you ask other devs for their opinions? plowsof @plowsof:matrix.org:

i want to ask monerujo for input but valldrac is going to get some things ready for the github repo e.g. it has no readme so im asking alot just linking it and saying 'what ya think'

Honestly if i was him i would stop and make a new one and let the devs evaluate the current work on sdk

agreed^ we need the input from the people using android libs right now, such as anonero / and mysu. and also even better, the 1 man army m2049r

If they say yeah good right direction then we sweep molly under rug and look at new proposal with expirey date on proposal

Then plowsof can remove it off the problem list

going back to the problem list : solopt,animated videos,molly : animated videos are done - we're waiting for someone to come to the table and ask about taking it over or repurposing the funds to make a video that will benefit the monero project ehh ok. solopt? what can i say

molly: outperforming the 2 others^

#mollyim:matrix.org is their matrix channel if interested

i just ate, then had desert so im a bit sleepy to be giving motivational speeches to get us all pumped, but this ship is moving forward , however slowly

Solopt had an expiry 31 oct 2022.

Seems like there is a breakup between them too?

definitely , endor seems independent now (but open to collaboration)

Sounded like ball and chain scenario

One was pulling the other along

not sure how many times i said itv but solopt has been fucked since it was"settled" incorrectly

now you can only sit back and get what you paid for

if you PAID the projrct manager IN FULL t( leave before completing the project, after he disrespected his "employees", youd have to be absolutely insane to EXPECT said employee to finish the job of the guy who started it and promised he would stick around til kt fin*shes

literally paid a bully to be a bully and fed endor to him

now want to expect endor to finish mjs job

and yes, the entire ccs ks mjs job

dont remember? endors milestones are optional

solopt is fully functional and hence mj can be paid in full

How much has been paid?

whatevee mj had expected from day 1

endor hasnt been paid in full

mjs been paid well over 350 xmr to do bullshit work and sell himself to reddit

his last dev ccs was 130(?) and had him billing for "

`s/github/GitHub`

and reviewing prs such as 7760, where he literally just spammed

13hrs or so just counting hours

10 hours setting up his dev environment (everytime?)

meeting attendance. guy did a whole lot of nothinf and got paid in full every single time

still out here talking about how hes going to sue abc and xyz if he doesnt get paid for his magic proposal

Oh i remember that

Doing a timesheet 13hrs

so ye. dumping it on endor is fucking stupid

you paid mj to pull that shit. dont act surprised

That was under previous government

it wasnt lolo

thats why i was mad

I like when they say that

it happened right before our eyes

Previous administration

the issues i brought up 100x are the same shit i hear people complaoning about now

but back then i was being accused of sttacking mj for some unrelated reasond ( yeah fkn right)

so "we wont punish for things unrelated to ccs" kept coming up

here we are, wondering why mjs ccs is AWOL.

hint: he got paid to leave it unfinished

anyway. put the animated videos funds along with the 242 from the yacht fund

the end

some things really are that simple

Stuck in limbo then

We push it down the hill till next government

any controversies surrounding simple math are obviously people hoping to mislead or misdirect.

i dont care about mj, or i guess today its majestic - but i wont be manipulated or mislead.

yeah

its one of those things like, its still mjs prohect.

would YOU want to finish it for him?

he already got paid? and tried to take your money too?

i know what im doing. probably nothing

why would i be motivated to allow mj to steal my lunch one more time by finishing his project

Rucknium anaylsis of the morbs issue is good, explained well.

it is

i want to comment on each point

Noob friendly

as ive had extensive conversations around each and plenty of ...justificstions of nullifications for the drawbacka

black marbles

there are only a handful of metrics known to the public that can create them

size of tx (txextra) and number of inputs or outputs being two obvious ones

So the current update basically makes updated nodes a filter for tx_extra? Cause they wont forward transaction with tx_extra above 1060

?

right

but, they will be transmit repeatedly until they dk get broadcast or mined

so.. lets assume everyong except for morbinals and hashvault updated

all morbs needs to do is send the big txextra to hashvaults rpc, or add hashvault as a priority node

any non-standard txextra or in/out count = black marble

Yeah to enforce it needs a hardfork

1060 enforced doesnt fix rhe fungibikity issue

just makes kit harder to prevent what was never done - hq images

No just limits it

What about wallets using standard decoys as its mentioned in article

the limit doesnt stop me from adding 2.4kb 1/2 tx on the chain

DanIsnotthemanBr: at that point were trearing txextra like coinbase > an essential part of the protocol

True

I think its just mitigating until a decision is made

of, what is your proposed action?

Do we know what is the legitimate data that is been put in tx_extra?

I know mining stuff

almost identical to rucks

And serai

subaddresses, pubkeys

nah

mining is being used only on coinbase afaik atm

Oh k

and coinbase would keep txextra

Unless you make specific fields?

nothing wrong with non fungible tx being non fungible

DanIsnotthemanBr: for subaddress and pubkeys, yes, its necessary

Making fields for them or having tx_extra?

the required minimum size limit of txextra has to accommodate 32bytes oer output, about 500bytes iirc

so youll always have more space while pissing in the 1/2 pool than you will if you use >2 outs

DanIsnotthemanBr: should make fields

pub keys have been there since day 1 iirc, and subaddresses were added there because they werent added in a HF

Dan (Is not the man & Braxman Tomsparks Advocate): Thanks

ofrnxmr: The research computing server is gathering data on inputs/outputs vounts of ring members. And now Mordinal transfer transactions, too.

I suppose if you can see pub keys you could correlate transactions too one entity too

What you can do with it is a diff story

Revuo Monero Issue 166: March 31 - April 13, 2023. revuo-xmr.com/issue-166.html

<Rucknium[m]> "luna24: r4v3r23 : Here's my..." <- Fire read homie, I didn’t even know about mordinals until reading that,

ofrnxmr[m]: potato potato