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hate[m]
i've used monero for a long time now but was wondering - will quantum computers be able to deanonymise xmr transactions from the past in the future? (since it breaks asymmetric encryption).
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xmrfn[m]
hate: Honest answer to your question; watch this video. Watch the whole thing. It is worth your time.
yewtu.be/watch?v=QUGnaLh6QLI
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xmrfn[m]
It is a lecture about what exactly quantum computing can do, given by [John Preskill](
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Preskill) of CalTech
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xmrfn[m]
The short answer is: it will be at minimum decades, and maybe centuries-to-never, before you see a QC that can for example factor RSA2048
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xmrfn[m]
Start worrying when you hear QC's with 20-50 million physical qbits
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hate[m]
ah ok got it
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xmrfn[m]
As I love predicting: "You will see working Fusion and and end to the energy/climite crises, long before you see QC break RSA"
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xmrfn[m]
Because a working, viable, inexpensive, easy-too-productize fusion reactor that gets more energy out of the whole plant than you put in, is in fact being deployed in 2025
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xmrfn[m]
The end of electricity scarcity and the impact on PoW is *much* more immediate a threat, than the impact of "quantum supremacy"
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Alex|LocalMonero
xmrfn[m]: Are you talking about Helion?
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xmrfn[m]
No, SPARC
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xmrfn[m]
No new tech, super simple, comparatively cheap, fairly quotidian heat exchange and industrial engineering issues at this point. Not research or basic science.
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xmrfn[m]
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xmrfn[m]
... ah, looks like a lot of the info has moved to the commercial spinoff :
cfs.energy/technology
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politicalweasel[
Plus even if there was somehow, magically, a cryptography breaking QC in 10 years from now, it would still take many hours for it to break a single key... there's no "master decryption key" in Monero, so it'd be at least a couple more decades on top of that for tech to advance enough to fully de-anon most past transactions. And early quantum attackers prob aren't going to waste their time on Monero when they could go for gov't secrets
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politicalweasel[
and such.
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mlcboss[m]
what giftcards are usually used in local monero?
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hate[m]
<mlcboss[m]> "what giftcards are usually..." <- Steam.
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hate[m]
> <@xmrfn:monero.social> hate: Honest answer to your question; watch this video. Watch the whole thing. It is worth your time.
yewtu.be/watch?v=QUGnaLh6QLI
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hate[m]
>
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hate[m]
Thanks for linking the video, watched the entire thing
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hate[m]
in regards to churning, i've heard a lot of contrasting opinions on whether it's actually useful in improving your anonymity set. is there any official stance on this by monero devs?
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k4r4b3y[m]
Hello. I noticed that when I enable "anonymous-inbound" for tor hidden service directive for my monero node (running on 32-bit dietpi OS, odroid hc1 hardware) my monerod process disappears after 5 minutes or so. And after that my systemd service for monerod brings it back up.
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k4r4b3y[m]
During my research on this, I found this github comment:
monero-project/monero #7224#issuecomment-752962605
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k4r4b3y[m]
This suggests that there is also an ongoing attack coming from malicious tor peers targeting the RAM consumption of monerod.
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k4r4b3y[m]
Is this true? Am I understanding this right? Anyone else noticing their monerod crashing when they enable anonymous-inbound for tor?
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guruji[m]
<xmrfn[m]> "Because a working, viable..." <- Is it planned for 2025 deployment? I checked the website you shared but didn't find it. Can you point me to the roadmap with 2025 deployment?
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plowsof11
k4r4b3y: sounds like hardware issue? Enabling inbound connections increases the load on your node. RAM? Swap file size? Or does it work with clearnet
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ofrnxmr[m]
Your logs help a lot more than some 2 year old logs from v17
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ofrnxmr[m]
But of course, there are many nodes runnig with amonymous inbound without issue, including my own on a 2.7gb tablet
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ofrnxmr[m]
Im not using systemd, but i recently helped configurea node with anon inbound that runs via systemd and withiut issue
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ofrnxmr[m]
🔮 tells me you used 18080 as the anon inbound port
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ofrnxmr[m]
(^ that thing tends to tell me falsehoods though)
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ofrnxmr[m]
<hate[m]> "in regards to churning, i've..." <- a the only method that actually works is trading xmr for unrelated xmr
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ofrnxmr[m]
Disclaimer: i dont claim to be a dev
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hate[m]
<ofrnxmr[m]> "a the only method that actually..." <- i was actually thinking that too lol, but i imagine finding a place that does that is like impossible. probably the closest u can do is swap it to a different coin then swap back to xmr
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ofrnxmr[m]
Plenty do it (cex), but are the same entities collaborating with whom youre trying to avoid
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Flora[m]
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Flora[m]
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someoneelse49549
we should automtically ban any telegram link
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k4r4b3y[m]
> <@plowsof:matrix.org> k4r4b3y: sounds like hardware issue? Enabling inbound connections increases the load on your node. RAM? Swap file size? Or does it work with clearnet
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k4r4b3y[m]
odroid hc1 has 2 GB RAM. I have setup 4 GB of swap file, too. My node works with clearnet. Only when I enable anonymous-inbound my monerod crashes, though I am not sure if it is the correct way to describe what happens. When I look at the monerod logs, it doesn't give a WARN or ERROR, it just restarts the monerod as if I just restarted it (probably my systemd script calling monerod after 30 secs of it going "down").
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k4r4b3y[m]
> <@ofrnxmr:monero.social> Your logs help a lot more than some 2 year old logs from v17
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k4r4b3y[m]
Yeah. I will return with a paste for my logs in a few hours.
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k4r4b3y[m]
I don't think the issue is with my systemd service. Again, it runs normally without the anonymous-inbound directive in monerod.conf
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plowsof11
Try without systemd (?) And --disable-rpc-ban and a higher log level and wait for the crash
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Rucknium[m]
hate: Churning best practices is a gap in Monero research right now. There may be a new initiative to research churning and EAE attacks soon.
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PanTheMan
Is
github.com/monero-project/monero the main codebase for XMR miners? Are things like
github.com/fireice-uk/xmr-stak just forks?
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kico
PanTheMan,
github.com/monero-project/monero is the project git nothing to do with mining
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kico
there is no "official" miner
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kico
all mining softwares are "3rd party"
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kico
well there is a built in miner in the GUI
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kico
guess that's as "official" as it gets
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kico
is fireice still updating his miner tho?
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PanTheMan
Ohhh - I guess I thought the "project" WAS the code for mining/running a node.
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PanTheMan
fireice looks like older commits than xmrig
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kico
yeah monero is basically nodes
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kico
and yeah most people use xmrig now for mining
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PanTheMan
Ok. So the monero-project code is what? For example, who would build/execute this code base and for what reason?
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kico
to run monero
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kico
wallets and nodes
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kico
notice that xmrig codebase is not under github.com/monero-project/monero
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PanTheMan
riiiiggghht
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PanTheMan
So I'd fork this code if I wanted to develop my own wallet?
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kico
if CLI yeah I guess
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kico
for GUI maybe better forking the GUI wallet or smth like feather
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kico
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ofrnxmr[m]
Yeah
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ofrnxmr[m]
You used 18080 on the anon inbound port
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ofrnxmr[m]
Use 18084
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ofrnxmr[m]
I didnt check logs ^ but that error is because youre trying to bind twice to the same p2p port... (full message at <
libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/do…c0701de752ff89d98e9a62c43def15ea172>)
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ofrnxmr[m]
Of course you need to change your torrc to point tp 18084 as well
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ofrnxmr[m]
Badalloc
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ofrnxmr[m]
Hows your ram
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ofrnxmr[m]
"that i know how to solve" lol
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ofrnxmr[m]
sure
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ofrnxmr[m]
You initially clained the issue was with anon inbound. Can we mark that ticket as solved?
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ofrnxmr[m]
This appears to be unrelated(?)
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ofrnxmr[m]
Meanwhile, my node rip today
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Alex|LocalMonero
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ofrnxmr[m]
It runs fine with them disabled?
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ofrnxmr[m]
Thats strange
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ofrnxmr[m]
Remove the public-node flag
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ofrnxmr[m]
Comment*
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ofrnxmr[m]
also `anonymous-inbound=<yourownb32i2paddress>.b32.i2p:48083,127.0.0.1:48083,16` shpuld be `anonymous-inbound=<yourownb32i2paddress>.b32.i2p,127.0.0.1:48083,16`
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ofrnxmr[m]
When you use it
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ofrnxmr[m]
i honestly dont even remember what public-node does or why one would need it
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revuoxmr
Revuo Monero Issue 169: April 27 - May 4, 2023.
revuo-xmr.com/issue-169.html
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jamss[m]
How to swap btc for monero?
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redpill[m]
Use torcador
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jamss[m]
Thanks
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DanIsnotthemanBr
Mr Diego is stack duo going to be on ios?
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ofrnxmr[m]
Monero problems with ios
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DanIsnotthemanBr
Icrap issue
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DiegoSalazar[m]
Stack Duo is already on iOS.
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DiegoSalazar[m]
but there are a couple issues with Monero there, yes.
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DiegoSalazar[m]
but it works for one wallet. Maybe. :D
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DiegoSalazar[m]
Just don't make a Wownero wallet or a second Monero wallet for the time being.
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DanIsnotthemanBr
Pot luck
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DanIsnotthemanBr
Brb moving life savings to it