<wochieng[m]> "Hey there. Does anyone know of..." <- your best bet is to get a prepaid w/ cakepay and use that to pay

there wont be any email marketing services that accept crypto let alone xmr

<ShaneonConduitrs> "github.com/dayzerosec..." <- thx for the repo. But might I ask how is it relevant to Monero

If a low trust counterparty like the government or exchange ever ask if you still control those coins. Just don't respond. Lol. Make the government cry and pound sand. They need to get humbled to the point of extinction

yea i really dont know how he came to the conclusion that most people use cake wallet

me and a lot of people i know all use moneroju

s/moneroju/monerujo/

monero-gui, running full node, makes my laptop rev like a car engine

does anyone else have this experience?

probably your ssd drive? check cpu/disc load

its the hard drive making the noise do you think? CPU usage was 20%

other stats I don't have on me now

do I need to buy a powerful PC to run a monero node comfortably?

If you use a wallet like Atomic Wallet or something, you are transacting with someone else's node right?

and its safer to run your own node, right?

Wouldn't recommend atomic wallet tho

but there is list of vetted community nodes

MajesticBank: can you give me some advice, my goal is to buy Litecoin and swap it for Monero

what apps/strategy should I use?

But ltc > swap it for monero

theres the strategy part

Now for apps. What are you looking for? This isnt btc

We dont have 17 specialized wallets

this is very interesting on-ramp, we are working to integrate them soon

no ltc, but if you get btc, we managed to lower btc transaction fee to 3 usd

MajesticBank: did you try it yourself

Screw btc

Buy ltc

making it at some reasonable level

ofrnxmr: if you look at litecoin.com/en/individuals/wallet/desktop/litecoin-core

btc is for jpegs and old folks who like watching commercials inbetween confirmations

there are quite a few wallets

Cake wallet, stack wallet both support ltc

and xmr

and both have built in swaps

so you would suggest Cake wallet?

how come its not on the wallets on the litecoin site?

i use em all

Because ltc is a joke

Github last updated like who knows when

Its a joke, but at least it works

ltc > xmr swaps are like 5mins

Btc > anything is a waste of my gd time

Time is moneu

Btc is inefficient and a PITA to use, and a lot easier to get flagged using btc

Bcuz of all the maxis that mix it

whats the practical difference between storing MXR in monero-gui or storing in Cake wallet?

None

Just that one is on a desktop and one on mobile - different basic security

But both are based on the exast same code

oh.....

oh yeah Cake wallet has no linux version right?

fr33_yourself[m]: Depends

Of youre running windows, eff no

Id store in cake before is store on windows

I aint running windows bro

Windows have too many "steal your seed" or "replace your address" viruses in the wild

The wallet files on desktop are encrypted

So even if stolen, theyd need to be brute forced

All in all, the underlying monero code is the same. Featherwallet is a very good desktop wallet, and has slightly different code than standard monero

Tobtoht also works on monero core, so featherwallet can be seen (sometimes) as a testing ground for bug fixes or feature adds. examples being mitigating some dns delays previously and implementing polyseed currently

it looks like: you can do an in-wallet coin swap, or you can use an external service like changelly

is this a correct view?

for example, atomic wallet allows for in-wallet swaps, run but atomic wallet

Changelly is terrible

Use trocador

Swaps in-wallet make use of external services

But not terrible ones like changelly.

both stack and cake support trocador

They both also support other exchanges - but i personally recommend trocador

Easier

cake supports trocador

I'm linux...

cakes linux app isnt out yet but stack has one

But trocador.app or trocador.i2p

thanks for all your advice! I'm desktop linux only btw

yeah

very good recommendations

I'm all set

I'm having a look at stack wallet

so you recommend stack over Atomic and litecoin core etc...?

Yes

Atomic 100%

litecoin core - ive never ran litecoins core software

But litecoin repos were pretty much on life support the last time i checked. Stack wallet is actively developed, takes feature requests etc

And respects monero ideals

stack wallet no linux it seems...

cake and stack, no linux...

Stackwallet github > releases > appimage

its not on the website

Cake no linux (yet)

but isnt it weird its not listed on the site?

you have to be very experienced to know about the download location

no

for linux version, yes

Because focus is on perfecting ui and mobile first

Every platform is in beta

Desktop stack is much newer, though sharing a lot of code isnt a 1:1 copy

I think I'll wait till there's more documentation

sorry I feel like an ass

If the linux version isnt on the site (i didnt check) im assuming its simple to keep beta testing pool small for the time being

Stack Wallet

Feel free to ask any specifics there

Whats the downside to using Atomic?

I'll keep an eye on stack and cake

is it even foss lol

And it supports changelly?

That wallet is disrespectful to crypto

Why use a foss, decentralized money

then trust a proprietary solution to perform magic tricks

your talking about atomic?

its not open source?

yes, I agree on the moral point

Meaning, proprietary spins on open source wallets are 99/100 times the wallet dev changing things that should not be changed

yeah

oh...

I dont remember it being open source, but i could be wrong

Most wallets arent

ill check

Google firebase analytics

And ships obfuscated binaries

atomic uses google firebase??

are you serious??

You can see when they added it

And permissions go from ~6-32

that's outrageous

so all users are being tracked?

talk about violation of trust

Violation? Tracked?

Youre using ltc

you expected privacy?

I was naive

Or to not be tracked?

Gotta use tools built by people that respect these values

Not people who make excuses and cut corners

I didn't realize privacy also applied to wallets

yeah, you said it

so for linux is litecoin core the go?

the only reason I am thinking Litecoin to Monero is becaue someone here recommended it

There's electrum for Litecoin

possible. Im not a big enough ltc user to care

I don't give a shit about litecoin

Why not just fiat to Monero

I wish I could

Kraken kyc, localmonero nokyc

kraken, I don't like

localmonero, Im considering, but I have to leave home and buy in small amounts

Kraken probably better than the rest

I was hoping to just sit at home and buy a good amount (via coin swapping or another method)

Binance, coinbase, kucoin, all lying scum. Kucoin not as bad

jollyboy[m]: No

kyc, defeats the purpose

You can send payments via whatever onkine method

Incluuding cashapp or crypto

Or bank transfers, atm deposits etc

maybe localmonero is the right way...

I use LM

Yoi can just post a buy ad

since no-kyc fiat to Monero is hard, I was thinking fiat > shitcoin > monero

posting a buy ad will get you better prices.

Buying off of a seller, youll pay more

Why? Buyers usually buy below market. So you can buy at market np

so if I go a shit coin like litecoin, I'll be tracked (probably)

a complicated world

I only hold ltc long enough to swap it

Idk where it csme from, or where it went, but it did its job and put xmr in my wallet

yes! exactly, thats the point!

If i buy ltc and do that, vs if i buy xmr directly.. the exchange doesnt know anythinf other than "money disappeared"

thats what we want, xmr in your pocket

Yep.

The ltc is gone. Poof

are you using cake or stack on a mac or mobile then?

if i buy xmr with withdraw, the xmr is "gone" too

jollyboy[m]: Mobile

what wallet are you using for ltc?

sure cake is not tracking users?

on mobile i actually use unstoppable wallet for ltc

is it open source?

no tracking confirmed?

Unstoppable is like trust wallet, but not scum. Doesnt include xmr, so its basicallly just my burner wallet

Yup

where doing you obtain the ltc?

in-wallet? external exchange?

personally i use a kyc service. But only if my localmonero buy ads are taking too long

i see...

I'm waiting on a kyc application now

exchange, sent to unstoppable, swap to xmr (using some thirdparty)

sound like a plan?

If kraken is cool in your state, theyre probably the best to kyc eith

Since you can buy xmr directly

wow

that would be great

pretty silly huh, talking all this litecoin stuff in the monero room

Its ok. Leads to monero

what do you thin of this? has 15k reviews on trust pilot?

for a kyc buying service? Or for an swap?

buying

bestchange.org

Also check reviews there

seems you need a login

I personally wouldnt give my id to some not-gonna-last business

thats a good point, yes

thats why i kycd with xyz company, and try to only use them for my kyc stuff.

but again, i dump my ltc right after i withdraw it. So i dont worry about stupid taxes about moving it

so, trocador.app/en is currently the best bet for a swap right?

Yup

If you setup a test swap youll see that it is an aggregator

It finds the best rates out of swaps that are known to be good (and trocador rates them as far as what happens if you send them dirty coins)

great advice!

It also proxies your tx to the exchange, so even if the exchange doesnt support tor/i2p you can still use tor/i2p

this is so complicated, I'm going to lunch

just wait til you see btc.

Really though, its simple if you "just do it"

Even buying on localnonero can be a nice experience

LocalMonero Official Group they have a room as well and again - app is foss

yes I'll give it a try

use a few methods and see whats best

Are there any XMR P2P rooms on Libera?

<AlmightyA> "Are there any XMR P2P rooms on..." <- The same rooms, linked, plus or less

jollyboy: you'll often get the best swap rates on LocalMonero, and there's zero risk of shotgun KYC (when the service takes your coins and doesn't process or refund your swap until you give them your ID)

jollyboy: check out this offer: localmonero.co/ad/buy-monero-crypto…bbe9616-f608-491d-be96-16f608791dd0

It's only 1.19% above market price, compared to the 1.5%+ charged by instant swap services (which may also randomly shotgun KYC you)

And you'll be supporting the P2P economy, and it's more private.

seems down..not just you

Alex | LocalMonero | AgoraDesk: Hi there! I heard you stopped listing offers from Russia and locked out Russian IPs. Is that true?

localmonero thing seems really unfair but I guess its compliance with sanctions

s/its/it's/

<cockliuser[m]> "localmonero thing seems really..." <- So LM isn't a decentralized thing and has a body that must comply with sanctions?

@annwyn #xmr.ru:matrix.org im sure will offer a method or alternative to obtain xmr

plowsof11: Cheers mate) I'll have to hugely improve my Russian though))

<annwyn[m]> "So LM isn't a decentralized..." <- its a company (centralized) what do you expect them to do? cut their face off instead of their nose?

@modul8:matrix.org I somehow didn't realize they're a company. This explains everything.

:)

<k4r4b3y[m]> "Haveno and serai can't arrive..." <- would people use it? has anyone been testing it? github.com/haveno-dex/haveno

serai sounds great but we still need a way for fiat tranfers. also we need a proper decentralised marketplace

k4r4b3y[m]: i havnt been following the new one. its monero right not bitcoin?

may as well use ebay if its based on bitcoin again. github.com/openbazaar/openbazaar3-rust

modul8[m]: It is going to be monero and bitcoin

Tho bitcoin addition is really unnecessary, imo. Monero covers all the bases alone when it comes to crypto currency payments.

Dan (Is not the man & Braxman Tomsparks Advocate): openbazaar? Or haveno?

(or both lol)

Cake Wallet arrives on Linux, including Tails, Whonix, Ubuntu, etc! More info: cakelabs.com/news/cake-wallet-arrives-on-linux

jollyboy: theres your linux

<sgp[m]> "Cake Wallet arrives on Linux..." <- very nice

<cryptogrampy[m]> "very nice" <- Thanks! We also made a flatpak due to popular demand :)

> Invalid DNSSEC TXT record signature for updates.moneropulse.org: validation failure <updates.moneropulse.org. TXT IN>: no keys have a DS with algorithm RSASHA256 from Invalid DNSSEC TXT record signature for updates.moneropulse.org: validation failure <updates.moneropulse.org. TXT IN>: no keys have a DS with algorithm RSASHA256 from

must i be worried?

toralien[m]: is this your home ISP? VPS? VPN?

selsta: VPS

selsta: i also fixed the issue in the meanwhile now because it's just a dns thingy

yes with some DNS weird DNSSEC related errors show up

The simulation still needs a lot of work, but I think it is a decent illustration for now. I would welcome feedback.

are there any UK monero groups

<annwyn[m]> "Alex | LocalMonero | AgoraDesk..." <- Yup. For now.

Stay away from anything the zuck touches

there is no reason not to get everyone to use signal

* get everyone in your circle to use

what os

linux

popos