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nsaunders
selsta: thx
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nsaunders
Error: refresh failed: unexpected error: proxy exception in refresh thread. Blocks received: 0
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gingeropolous
wrong version methinks
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Capybara[m]
Hi I'm using cake wallet, and I'm connected to the cake wallet node and why it takes so long to sync?
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Capybara[m]
And I'm still syncing
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Capybara[m]
I have a good connection and I tried different nodes, still slow
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TrasherDK[m]
<ofrnxmr[m]> "KISS..." <- > <@ofrnxmr:monero.social> KISS
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TrasherDK[m]
> use the official releases
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TrasherDK[m]
So, what is the official release?
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ofrnxmr[m]
Monero-project/monero
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TrasherDK[m]
Aha, npm i monero-project/monero, right?
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TrasherDK[m]
Or do I need ti install node++ first?
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ofrnxmr[m]
Need wownero
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hv-bridge
<ERROR> Stop
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Indigenz[m]
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Indigenz[m]
What do you folks think of this?
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TrasherDK[m]
Wasted another day on monero-javascript 🤬
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Indigenz[m]
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Indigenz[m]
What do you folks think of this?
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ofrnxmr[m]
Cors enabled?
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TrasherDK[m]
Browsers suck at internet stuff.
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DanIsnotthemanBr
Yest
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DanIsnotthemanBr
CORS
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DanIsnotthemanBr
Should give you a reason
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TrasherDK[m]
Enabling TLS on the daemon enabled the next error to surface.
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TrasherDK[m]
The CORS error is just a generic error message, meaning I didn't get a response.
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TrasherDK[m]
The javascript is
1.2.3.4:34567/json_rps and the browser translates thet into
1.2.3.4:34567/json_rps for some reason.
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TrasherDK[m]
*https
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DanIsnotthemanBr
Https always on in browser?
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TrasherDK[m]
The webserver is running on
localhost:9100 but monerod is on a remote IP. So no matter what, I get mixed protocol.
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DanIsnotthemanBr
So node is http or https?
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DanIsnotthemanBr
Which proxy/webserver?
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TrasherDK[m]
Well, I enabled autodetect and the self-signed certs.
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DanIsnotthemanBr
Your node? With self signed?
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DanIsnotthemanBr
Maybe the browser doesnt trust the cert.
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TrasherDK[m]
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TrasherDK[m]
The current hurdle is in monero-javascript
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TrasherDK[m]
I have a feeling, webpack is fucking shit up, or I just don't understand webpack.
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plowsof11
#monero-community-dev:monero.social woodser usually assists there TrasherDK (if this is a monero-js issue?)
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dcmeans7[m]
What are the best blogs/substacks/medium accounts about privacy or security or open source importance
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side-trips[m]
Sethforprivacydotcom?
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side-trips[m]
Security is a tough one... Everything turns into a scam usually lol
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duck[m]
What is the best way to help the network with an old computer?
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duck[m]
I did try to run a node, but on an HDD it takes forever to sync
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nioc
once it syncs it should be able to keep up without problem
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Tremor[m]
<dcmeans7[m]> "What are the best blogs/..." <- TrasherDK:... (full message at <
libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/do…7cdf5b316bb30e241a25a25e87dde3c7355>)
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nioc
running a node to help the network means you will keep it on 24/7 so just turn it on and let it sync for a week or so
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nioc
not sure how long it takes to sync a HDD nowadays, my SSD took 10hrs
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ofrnxmr[m]
How old is old? I was looking at >1month on hdd
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Tremor[m]
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duck[m]
nioc: Thanks for the suggestion. I will just let it sync 24/7
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ofrnxmr[m]
Processor model is __
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plowsof11
an old raspberry pi model B
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r4v3r23[m]
<side-trips[m]> "Sethforprivacydotcom?..." <- no, dont take privacy/security tips from a naive influencer type
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duck[m]
ofrnxmr[m]: idk
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r4v3r23[m]
seth doesnt understand adversarial thinking, just buzzwords
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Tremor[m]
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duck[m]
its really dusty
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xfedex[m]
<side-trips[m]> "Sethforprivacydotcom?..." <- Ahhh, you named a very unpopular blog
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ofrnxmr[m]
Bring solutions, not problems
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duck[m]
ofrnxmr[m]: I have to check that
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Tremor[m]
r4v3r23[m]: Care to elaborate. I'm interested! Not to bash you or Seth. Just wanna hear an example.
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ofrnxmr[m]
* if you bring problems, bring solutions*
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plowsof11
duck you seem new? when did you find out about this Monero thing? you want to support the network already if recent? thats nice
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ofrnxmr[m]
I think ive seen duck around for a few months
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r4v3r23[m]
he just jumps on bandwagons for whatever will get him more likes. he doesnt know what its like to need serious privacy, he. just parrots information
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r4v3r23[m]
s/.//
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plowsof11
did i just get rick rolled by "idk its dusty"
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duck[m]
plowsof11: 🤎
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duck[m]
I still have a lot to learn
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duck[m]
plowsof11: Im not at the farm now
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nioc
I recently de-dusted my comps
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nioc
but yeah an old comp with a weak non-AES processor can take a very long time to sync
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xfedex[m]
Tremor[m]: He is unpopular in the Monero community because in practice he got hired by a Bitcoin-centric company, and left Monero for Bitcoin, starting to promote the company's privacy tools - which are less private than Monero, slower, and more expensive
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nioc
monero maximalists :D
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plowsof11
there is no second best
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Tremor[m]
r4v3r23[m]: Do you know of someone better to follow? I think any information helps, even though Seth may have flaws, he still gives good insight and knowledge. Just leave it to the user to interpret.
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xfedex[m]
nah, monero is the second best
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xfedex[m]
it will never reach wownero's levels :)
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chch3003[m]
xfedex[m]: Not funny
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Tremor[m]
xfedex[m]: Seth gave an "explanation" to why. But it does seem like he's following the money.
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chch3003[m]
He will come back to Monero at some point
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nioc
he hasn't left
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ofrnxmr[m]
"promote the companies privacy tools"
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ofrnxmr[m]
Proceeds to have work done on a monero hw wallet
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ofrnxmr[m]
Ty nioc
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Tremor[m]
He's right in saying that the majority is on bitcoin, and eventually ppl will look to alternatives like monero, but he wanted to make bitcoin better as thats where most people start.
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ofrnxmr[m]
Make btc better?
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nioc
a Trojan horse
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ofrnxmr[m]
He went and sold enough nonsense to maxis to add monero to the passport wallet
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Tremor[m]
ofrnxmr[m]: Sorry, not better. Make privacy tools for bitcoin some how.
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ofrnxmr[m]
"fuck seths wallet"
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ofrnxmr[m]
okie. Go use yur ledger
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ofrnxmr[m]
Tremor[m]: By adding monero support
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monerobull[m]
I've followed ofrn
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monerobull[m]
And made a tails offline wallet
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monerobull[m]
Fuck ledger
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Tremor[m]
monerobull[m]: In persistent storage? Or how does that work in tails?
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monerobull[m]
Yeah
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ofrnxmr[m]
What company does he work for: foundation
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ofrnxmr[m]
what does foundation do: build a hw wallet
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ofrnxmr[m]
what has happens since seths arrival: hes sold wallets to maxis and then worked to add monero support
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monerobull[m]
180€ for 2 mini office PCs > ~250€ for a passport that doesn't even have Monero support yet
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monerobull[m]
I don't love the inter ME bs but only the feds would know how to use that to steal my coins and i don't think I'm that important
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monerobull[m]
s/inter/intel/
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Tremor[m]
monerobull[m]: Yet...
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nioc
90 euro dollars for a mini office PC?
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monerobull[m]
Lol, better the feds having to come and take my PC than just ask ledger for my keys 😂
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ofrnxmr[m]
yeah
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monerobull[m]
Does tails cripple ME?
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monerobull[m]
It for sure disables something during boot but it's booting so fast i couldn't read it
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Tremor[m]
monerobull[m]: Isnt it basically a micro computer? So if it's on it could read all CPU actions and "steal" info?
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monerobull[m]
It's built in as part of your CPU yeah
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monerobull[m]
I think it could be used to extract cryptographic keys and store them where the bios is saved
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xfedex[m]
monerobull[m]: Afaik no
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xfedex[m]
you need to install a different BIOS
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xfedex[m]
not sure tho
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xfedex[m]
your best bet is to use an old computer
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xfedex[m]
15 years old should be enough
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monerobull[m]
I'll just take it as a fact that my seed will only stay safe as long as I have control over the machine an never plug in any sort of networking or storage
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monerobull[m]
Also never use the tails USB on anything but that specific machine
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r4v3r23[m]
<ofrnxmr[m]> "What company does he work for..." <- > <@ofrnxmr:monero.social> What company does he work for: foundation
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r4v3r23[m]
> what does foundation do: build a hw wallet
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r4v3r23[m]
> what has happens since seths arrival: hes sold wallets to maxis and then worked to add monero support
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r4v3r23[m]
he hasnt done shit to add monero support
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monerobull[m]
Fun fact, some gaming mice have some storage on them to transfer game configs so watch out you don't use those on your air gapped machines 😅
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r4v3r23[m]
anyone here know jetpack compose?
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k4r4b3y[m]1
<monerobull[m]> "I don't love the inter ME bs but..." <- Get a thinkpad x230 and coreboot that
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k4r4b3y[m]1
Glowie-proof
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k4r4b3y[m]1
<monerobull[m]> "Does tails cripple ME?" <- It doesn't. You need to flash coreboot into your bios chip for that.
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jason
quit
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monerobull[m]
Bridgerton
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monerobull[m]
Ok
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monerobull[m]
Test
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duck[m]
monerobull[m]: yo
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monerobull[m]
For some reason
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monerobull[m]
Nah seems like it stopped working just now
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monerobull[m]
Why does bridgerton still work but the server is 404
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monerobull[m]
Huh. Back up
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monerobull[m]
Why would my webserver restart after pulling a fan from the machine
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merope
Maybe you moved something and caused a crash/reboot?
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nsaunders
The New York Times reviewer Bosley Crowther called Zero Hour! an "exciting contemplation of a frightening adventure in the skies" based on a "good terse script ... Dana Andrews as the hero and Sterling Hayden as the captain are first-rate in these roles, keeping them hard and unrelenting."[7] Time magazine, however, called the script a "bloopy inflation of a 1956 television show" and said its "moral struggle comes off fairly well, but th
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nsaunders
e general situation is as patently contrived as one of Walter Mitty's daydreams."[8]
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nsaunders
In 1971, the film was remade as a made-for-television movie, Terror in the Sky, a Movie of the Week special with Doug McClure in the Ted Stryker role (renamed George Spencer, as in the original).[9] Zero Hour! was also used as the basis for the parody film Airplane! (1980). Because Zero Hour! was owned at the time by Paramount Pictures, the makers of Airplane!, also a Paramount feature, were able to use the screenplay almost verbatim, in
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nsaunders
cluding the hero again being named Ted Striker.[10]
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nsaunders
sorry
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nsaunders
Error: refresh failed: unexpected error: proxy exception in refresh thread. Blocks received: 0
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nsaunders
anything I can do aside from just trying different proxy nodes? I'm expecting a transfer.
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Rucknium[m]
nsaunders: What software version are you using?
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nsaunders
oh, an old one I think. If you're suggesting to update, then that might make sense. Oxygen, I think, is the version.
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nsaunders
more of a Linux question, but apt says that monero is the latest version monero is already the newest version (0.17.2.0+~0+20200826-1ubuntu4).
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Rucknium[m]
nsaunders: Your wallet cannot work if you are using version 0.18, Flourine Fermi. Unless for some reason you want to see what is happening on the old "dead" chain that the August 2022 hard fork left behind
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Rucknium[m]
I meant it cannot work if you are not using 0.18
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Rucknium[m]
You must use 0.18
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nsaunders
I understand. On Ubuntu, would you have a suggestion? A particular snap or flatpak wallet?
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lza_menace
latest not available on apt nsaunder, gotta download latest binaries from getmonero.org or github.com/monero-project/monero/releases
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nsaunders
lza_menace: thx
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lza_menace
nsaunders*
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Rucknium[m]
plowsof: Need to reset the counter to 0.
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plowsof11
They report their issues, seeking some aid,
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plowsof11
But they're met with laughter, I'm afraid.
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plowsof11
"What version?" they ask, trying not to smirk,
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plowsof11
And the answer's 17.2, they go berserk.
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plowsof11
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geonic
:)
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saunders
Well, maybe not berserk. More like disappointed and frustrated. Appreciate the help, though. Else I'm just dumbly trying to sync with understanding of why it's been failing.
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nsaunders
run/user/1000/doc/abc123/foo.keys is opened by another wallet program. I've uninstalld the apt monero, as it's out of date, and am only using the GUI from flatpak. I can reboot again, but perhaps there's a daemon to stop or something?
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plowsof11
you mention trying "proxy nodes" - so i assume you have no local monerod running
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plowsof11
rebooting would be fine then if thats the easiest for you
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lza_menace
nsaunders maybe your cli wallet still running in another tab or terminal window?
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lza_menace
`ps aux | grep monero` maybe will show it?
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merope
nsaunders: btw, how did you stumble on v17?
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HiV
the hell is a house horse
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DanIsnotthemanBr
Sus
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lza_menace
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merope
oh, right
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gingeropolous
ugh. Height: 2194287/2194287 (100.0%) on mainnet, not mining, net hash 1.33 GH/s, v12 (next fork in 21.8 days)
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gingeropolous
do I have to intervene, or will the daemon realize its eclipsed?
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gingeropolous
its been on this height for hours now
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ofrnxmr[m]
I had to restart my node with some exclusives and pop off some blocks
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ofrnxmr[m]
Preferrably before they ban you
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ofrnxmr[m]
also deleted p2pstate.bin so id grab new peers from my exclusive peer
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TrasherDK[m]
<monerobull[m]> "Also never use the tails USB..." <- Well then. How do you get Tails onto the USB, when "never plug in any sort of networking or storage" ?
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monerobull[m]
>After you create the wallet
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monerobull[m]
Download tails, verify the download, put tails on USB
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monerobull[m]
Download feather, disconnect internet
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monerobull[m]
Only ever connect the tails USB to the offline pc
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monerobull[m]
And never connect the tails USB to any other PC
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monerobull[m]
TrasherDK[m]: It's only after you've generated the wallet that you have to be extremely careful
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ofrnxmr[m]
There is a guide on getmonero.org
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ofrnxmr[m]
For creating airgapped wallets
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ofrnxmr[m]
(ignore/dont click the link for moneroaddress.org though. Use moo's github link)
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ofrnxmr[m]
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nsaunders
merope: apt has v17, so it's the package that's out dated.
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nsaunders
lza_menace: nah, I tried that. Oh, forgot to use ps. I eventually just entered my seed string into the GUI again for a different wallet.
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nsaunders
when the GUI finishes its sync for this wallet, would it have to do that entire process again for each wallet? Using remote nodes with the GUI
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ofrnxmr[m]
Just do it bro
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ofrnxmr[m]
entire process like fail to restore?
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ofrnxmr[m]
depends if you rebooted or are just asking to ask
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fr33_yourself[m]
<ofrnxmr[m]> "(ignore/dont click the link..." <- why not use moneroaddress.org link? something wrong with that link?
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nsaunders
I didn't reboot. Asking to understand, should I run into this sort of thing again.
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fr33_yourself[m]
oh... I followed the link and it led to mymonero LMAO
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ofrnxmr[m]
yeah, sus af
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ofrnxmr[m]
"how to create a paper wallet" > use view key service lmao
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ofrnxmr[m]
Used to link to mooo's paper wallet generator
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fr33_yourself[m]
have people audited or eyeballed moneromoo's generator
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ofrnxmr[m]
Yes
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ofrnxmr[m]
Resd it ffs loo
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ofrnxmr[m]
It says right on it and in the repo
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fr33_yourself[m]
ofrnxmr[m]: Yeah wtf happened lol. I remember that moneroaddress. org used to direct to Moo's program
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ofrnxmr[m]
Yea. The url was lost somehow 🤷♂️
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fr33_yourself[m]
meaning moneromooo paper handed the url to fluffyponi?
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ofrnxmr[m]
No
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ofrnxmr[m]
Whoever was payinf might have just not paid
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fr33_yourself[m]
then how did moo lose control of that url
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fr33_yourself[m]
ahhh
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ofrnxmr[m]
Or hoster changed terms and wanted id now or something, who knows
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fr33_yourself[m]
and moo may not have even been the individual paying for it
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fr33_yourself[m]
it makes more sense to me now. thanks big brain ofrnxmr
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ofrnxmr[m]
But yeah, the github link is good and verifiable
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fr33_yourself[m]
I wish TAILS devs would integrate feather wallet or the GUI super easily. Would make TAILS even more overpowered as a plug and private OS
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fr33_yourself[m]
what do incoming connections versus outgoing connections mean for a monero node?
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fr33_yourself[m]
Also, I wonder when we will get more details surrounding the exploit from untrusted remote nodes
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ofrnxmr[m]
<fr33_yourself[m]> "what do incoming connections..." <- Poor connectivity
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ofrnxmr[m]
You either let people come to you and drop off blocks
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fr33_yourself[m]
I mean what does an incoming connection mean and what does an outgoing connection mean
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ofrnxmr[m]
Or you go around to the only houses with unlocked doors
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ofrnxmr[m]
The direction that the connection is initiated
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ofrnxmr[m]
Its like having signal
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ofrnxmr[m]
If you never tell anyone your phone number, you have to message them first
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ofrnxmr[m]
outgoing connections ^
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ofrnxmr[m]
Incoming connections = everyone that has your phone number can contact you
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fr33_yourself[m]
isn't having incoming connections a good thing for bolstering the network?
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ofrnxmr[m]
Yes
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DanIsnotthemanBr
Ports blocked?
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ofrnxmr[m]
Not having leads to mass centralizations on vps
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DanIsnotthemanBr
I have a brazillion in incoming
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ofrnxmr[m]
Because most large nodes are on vps (seed nodes, mining pools, community trusted nodes etc)
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ofrnxmr[m]
If ONLY the aforementioned had incoming open, they would be a central "hub" for all blocks to pass through
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ofrnxmr[m]
2 outgoing-only nodes cant talk to one another
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fr33_yourself[m]
I see how that could be problematic. makes better sense now
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ofrnxmr[m]
best is if everyone had incoming open, even if limited
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ofrnxmr[m]
I usually limit to like 50 or 35 incoming
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fr33_yourself[m]
hey a node with no incoming is still better than no node at all. I have incoming open though. makes me feel like I'm uppercutting Jerome Powell haha
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ofrnxmr[m]
And 12 out
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ofrnxmr[m]
fr33_yourself[m]: sort of
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fr33_yourself[m]
why do you limit the incoming?
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ofrnxmr[m]
It puts load on the nodes that are handling the majority of the network traffic
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ofrnxmr[m]
fr33_yourself[m]: Because its my home network
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ofrnxmr[m]
My router isnt a super saiyan
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fr33_yourself[m]
so the only reason you limit incoming is to reduce bandwidth consumption so your other devices are usable and/or your ISP doesn't attempt to charge you more or cry like a big baby
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ofrnxmr[m]
No
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ofrnxmr[m]
If i have too many connections ill lose connectivity all together
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ofrnxmr[m]
Router probs
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fr33_yourself[m]
so your ISP is just kinda poo poo then? what does the router itself have to do with anything?
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ofrnxmr[m]
Isp combo modem/routrr to be exact
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ofrnxmr[m]
Should probably call it a modem in this context
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ofrnxmr[m]
Isp is good, they just give shitty hardware if dont have your own
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fr33_yourself[m]
that makes sense
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ofrnxmr[m]
And with 35 incoming connections, its plenty
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ofrnxmr[m]
In the future ill probably increase to like 300
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ofrnxmr[m]
I alao run i2p, tor, etc as well. I think my i2p is set to 200 connections
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fr33_yourself[m]
I want to know your opinion of i2p vs. tor, but lets move to offtopic
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gingeropolous
yeah ofrnxmr[m] , i know the workaround, but this is not great
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gingeropolous
i mean how does this happen? why doesn't the node check other peers in its whitelist? is the daemon so isolated now in the network that everything in its whitelist is also on this branch of the network / blockchain?
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ofrnxmr[m]
Happened to me, but at block 1m or so
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ofrnxmr[m]
1.3m*
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ofrnxmr[m]
i had a the mooooo.. line look like _mooooooooo when it would happen
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gingeropolous
(and yes there's plenty of SSD space this time :) )
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ofrnxmr[m]
And the block download would continue to fill up ram, but id never get past that block
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gingeropolous
oh yeah. my moo: [moooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
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gingeropolous
ooooooooooooo]
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gingeropolous
lulz
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gingeropolous
what does that mean again?
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ofrnxmr[m]
_ and > mean something bad
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ofrnxmr[m]
Mooooooooo means good
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ofrnxmr[m]
ofrnxmr[m]: One if these is "downloading"
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merope
<monerobull[m]> "It's only after you've generated..." <- Hell nah, you have to be careful even before wallet generation. Last thing you want is some malware compromising your system's entropy source (or modifying/replacing the wallet software binaries and changing the code that handles wallet generation)
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monerobull[m]
That's why you verify tails and feather before generating a wallet
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great_taste
what malware?