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gingeropolous
well ill just try restarting the daemon why not
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gingeropolous
well that didn't do it
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gingeropolous
dangit
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gingeropolous
oh shit. my conf already had 2 priority nodes
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gingeropolous
wtf
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TrasherDK[m]
<merope> "Hell nah, you have to be careful..." <- ^ This was the point of my post. Software on the stick has to come from some external source. Any hub between source and destination could potentially be compromised.
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nsaunders
how long do secondary wallet addresses persist?
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TrasherDK[m]
Until you delete the wallets .key file
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TrasherDK[m]
It's not like they stop existing, they are just hidden, kinda.
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gingeropolous
its glorious seein monerod use 800% cpu
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ofrnxmr[m]
Strange behavior. Imo those nodes should be getting banned and the blocks discarded and redownloaded from a good peer
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nsaunders
if the .key file is deleted, but then monero is sent to a secondary address, will the transaction be reflected in an account which is later recovered from the seed file?
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ofrnxmr[m]
What is a secondary address
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ofrnxmr[m]
A subaddress?
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nsaunders
I dunno. in the wallet GUI you can create addresses.
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ofrnxmr[m]
They persist forever
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ofrnxmr[m]
As do subaccounts
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nsaunders
thx
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ofrnxmr[m]
Yeah, so a subaddress
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nsaunders
subaddress then :)
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ofrnxmr[m]
Yes the seed will restore you addresses
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nsaunders
Interesting
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ofrnxmr[m]
But not labels etc. That is stored locally
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ofrnxmr[m]
nsaunders: Its the same with just abt every crypto
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nsaunders
k
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ofrnxmr[m]
All addresses are indexes
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ofrnxmr[m]
Like 1,1 1,2 1,3 1,4
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ofrnxmr[m]
Account#,address#
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rickandmortyisno
hello
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rickandmortyisno
i recently just read a somewhat old article ( 2018 ) about monero, and it was saying that the mixins is vulnerable and that most people dont use it. Has this been patched or fixed? and if not how do i add mixins to my transactions
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modul8[m]
rickandmortyisno: i may be wrong but that sounds wrong even for 2018. every tx now has ring of 16, it used to be user choice i think.
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rickandmortyisno
that makes sense
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modul8[m]
dont like rick and morty what about the venture bros.?
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rickandmortyisno
nah i just made that username up lmao
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rickandmortyisno
it was the first thing that came up in my mind while having to create a username
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rickandmortyisno
so ive heard a lot of people claim that the only crypto that actually matters is monero and i am convinced but what do you guys think, do you think that monero is future proof
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modul8[m]
internet money should be private. i dont see why a private messenger and money is any different. it all comes down to the developers. i think the dev community is pretty healthy. privacy is a need not a want so i think there will be user and dev demand for it.
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modul8[m]
monero price is probably controlled by early bitcoiners and exchanges with vested interest. i didnt think bitcoin would succeed because its absurd for someone to just create money and not get taken out. learning its not private at all just made it uninteresting to me as all i see are attack vectors on the users. also the 21 million hardcap is a ponzi.
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rickandmortyisno
<modul8[m]> "internet money should be private..." <- right, i heard someone once say that the only way monero would become obsolete is if someone found a better way to do it, possibly some other type of tech that would make the fees non existent. Not really too sure how someone would do that or make that though
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ocean[m]
<rickandmortyisno> "i recently just read a somewhat..." <- it was this one wasn't it
old.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/65…ical_analysis_of_linkability_in_the
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rickandmortyisno
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rickandmortyisno
this one
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ocean[m]
yes that's the one I linked
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ocean[m]
it was outdated even when it dropped
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rickandmortyisno
ah okay, good to know
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blicero[m]
Do the new EU MiCA regulations affect Monero?
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blicero[m]
I gave the PDF they put out a read but I'm still not clear if it only affects coins pegged to fiat.
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k4r4b3y[m]1
Whatever their regulations are, they are irrelevant.
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k4r4b3y[m]1
You can't put a gun to the head of a math equation, a computer code, etc.
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k4r4b3y[m]1
They have 0 authority over the self-governing communities in the cyberspace.
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k4r4b3y[m]1
They loove their democracy, right? Here's a demos, utilizing their own kratos.
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blicero[m]
What? They can absolutely enforce regulation on trading institutions like FTX.
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k4r4b3y[m]1
Monero doesn't care.
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blicero[m]
kek
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DanIsnotthemanBr
Ftx is/was/ponzi cex. Its different to a digital coin. Cant ban what they cant track.
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k4r4b3y[m]1
Yes. Come and find it.
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DanIsnotthemanBr
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DanIsnotthemanBr
“Today’s decision is bad news for those who have misused crypto-assets for their illegal activities, to circumvent EU sanctions or to finance terrorism and <u>war</u>”
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DanIsnotthemanBr
Those who throw rocks in glass house
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DanIsnotthemanBr
Shouldnt start wars
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DanIsnotthemanBr
s/house/houses/
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blicero[m]
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blicero[m]
>
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blicero[m]
> “Today’s decision is bad news for those who have misused crypto-assets for their illegal activities, to circumvent EU sanctions or to finance terrorism and <u>war</u>”
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blicero[m]
Don't think the EU has started any wars so far.
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k4r4b3y[m]1
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k4r4b3y[m]1
>
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k4r4b3y[m]1
> “Today’s decision is bad news for those who have misused crypto-assets for their illegal activities, to circumvent EU sanctions or to finance terrorism and <u>war</u>”
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k4r4b3y[m]1
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blicero[m]
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k4r4b3y[m]1
blicero[m]: > <@blicero:matrix.org>
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k4r4b3y[m]1
> Don't think the EU has started any wars so far.
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k4r4b3y[m]1
"finance war"
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blicero[m]
Like financing wars or war on finance concepts or what?
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k4r4b3y[m]1
dyor
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blicero[m]
kek
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blicero[m]
I'll do my own research on finding a cryptocurrency forum that's not fanatic, thanks.
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k4r4b3y[m]1
Yw
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k4r4b3y[m]1
I heard zcash is pretty compliant btw
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k4r4b3y[m]1
I am sure they will welcome you with open arms.
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r4v3r23[m]
blicero[m]: like 0% financing on a car, but war
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DanIsnotthemanBr
<blicero[m]> "> <@123bob123:matrix.org>
https:..." <- No, but you make money off war and then say where monitoring it for terrorism and financing wars reasons.
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k4r4b3y[m]1
"It's ok when we do it."
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DanIsnotthemanBr
They can stop the war in ukraine, but when its more profitable to provide”aid” worth millions of dollar i dont know where they get the money from when they are trillion dollar debt.
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DanIsnotthemanBr
s/dollar/dollars/
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blicero[m]
DanIsnotthemanBr: I don't really see how the EU can stop the Ukraine war in a way that doesn't tip it over to Russia.
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blicero[m]
I'm not a fan of whataboutism but the US has been the biggest contributor.
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blicero[m]
DanIsnotthemanBr: They will basically own the country afterwards. Get at that farming land.
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blicero[m]
Probably get it in the EU.
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k4r4b3y[m]1
blicero[m]: > <@blicero:matrix.org>
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k4r4b3y[m]1
> I don't really see how the EU can stop the Ukraine war in a way that doesn't tip it over to Russia.
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k4r4b3y[m]1
> I'm not a fan of whataboutism but the US has been the biggest contributor.
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k4r4b3y[m]1
US, EU and NATO are one and the same..
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k4r4b3y[m]1
Don't give me that look you know it's true.
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Stnby[m]
Move onto offtopic
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blicero[m]
I don't think you can reduce two continents to one concept but I agree. The EU is an American construct and still controls it in some ways, particularly military-wise, with the consent of the European countries.
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blicero[m]
* I agree somewhat. The
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plowsof11
#monero-offtopic:monero.social #cryptoagorism:nokyc.im
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blicero[m]
Yeah we're quite far off-topic now, apologies.
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k4r4b3y[m]1
:join #cryptoagorism:nokyc.im
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k4r4b3y[m]1
lol
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plowsof11
#monero-markets:monero.social
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k4r4b3y[m]1
k4r4b3y[m]1: > <@k4r4b3y:karapara.net> :join #cryptoagorism:nokyc.im
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k4r4b3y[m]1
>
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k4r4b3y[m]1
is that room invite only btw?
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Stnby[m]
Don't hang out in that room too often, brain cancer incubator
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k4r4b3y[m]1
Someone send an invite
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DanIsnotthemanBr
Nutters there?
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Stnby[m]
k4r4b3y[m]1: Pretty sure you can just join
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Stnby[m]
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k4r4b3y[m]1
Stnby[m]: > <@stnby:kernal.eu> Pretty sure you can just join
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k4r4b3y[m]1
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k4r4b3y[m]1
I am getting "you are not invited"
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Stnby[m]
k4r4b3y[m]1: I don't have perms to invite anyone
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diones
Hey guys wassup
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ofrnxmr[m]
👁️🗨️
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diones
Does somebody here have a monero forum ?
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r4v3r23[m]
<k4r4b3y[m]1> "> <@stnby:kernal.eu> Pretty sure..." <- that rooms lame as fuck run by a wannabe dictator
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rottenwheel
Ah, love is in the air!
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mlcboss[m]
is it ok to track customer with face recognition and beacon technology so customers can get better recommendations & discount?
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mlcboss[m]
i mean manipulate the customers to buy more
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mlcboss[m]
monero can't prevent that right hehe 😁
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side-trips[m]
<Stnby[m]> "Pretty sure you can just join..." <- > <@stnby:kernal.eu> Pretty sure you can just join
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side-trips[m]
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side-trips[m]
I also want into the secret club
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side-trips[m]
Do monero blogs get aggregated anywhere? Seth was the only homie I knew of, but apparently he's compromised for working on something that isn't wow ig
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Rucknium[m]
side-trips: Not really blogs, but try
themonero.dance
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side-trips[m]
<Rucknium[m]> "side-trips: Not really blogs..." <- This is awesome, thanks for this, and kudos to whoever made it!
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hanser[m]
Friends, I would like to know approximately how much time Monero's ring signature consumes in signing and verification. Because my device is currently unable to run Monero, so I am seeking your assistance. Thank you.😗
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Rucknium[m]
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Rucknium[m]
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hanser[m]
Thanks😀
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jeffro256[m]
New Vulnerability Disclosure here:
monero-project/monero #8872
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DataHoarder
nice writeup
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r4v3r23[m]
so if you wait at least 1 block after funds being unlocked you are unaffected?
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r4v3r23[m]
<jeffro256[m]> "New Vulnerability Disclosure..." <- so for wallets on versions < 0.18.2.2, if you wait at least 1 block after funds being unlocked you are unaffected?
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hanser[m]
I would like to compare the proof efficiency and the respective advantages and disadvantages of ring signatures and zk-SNARKs zero-knowledge proofs.🥳
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Rucknium[m]
hanser: Me, too. But I am not aware of any head-to-head comparison on signing and verification time.
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hanser[m]
The conclusion I have reached so far is that zk-SNARKs have significantly longer proof generation time but shorter verification time, which is more important for blockchain applications. Additionally, zk-SNARKs offer slightly higher security.🤔
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Rucknium[m]
hanser: You should also check wallet scan time
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xfedex[m]
Isn't wallet scan time == proof verification time?
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Rucknium[m]
Unless I'm missing something about the cryptography, no. The question of whether a tx is valid (which everyone can check) is different from "Is this output mine?/Did I already spend this output?", which only a user involved in a tx can check.
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Rucknium[m]
For example, View Tags were implemented in the August 2022 hard fork. They decreased wallet scan times, but AFAIK they did not decrease verification time.
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imprevisto[m]
hanser: this looks good a little technical
unblock.net/ringct-vs-zk-snark
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imprevisto[m]
looks like published after 2018, not sure of exact date
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imprevisto[m]
or during 2018
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imprevisto[m]
I think the new zk systems no trusted setup
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imprevisto[m]
Zk-SNARK criticism 1 there
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imprevisto[m]
there's a lot of reddit material but a lot of incorrect or partly incorrect info there too
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r4v3r23[m]
zk-starks were discussed years ago
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imprevisto[m]
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susman1[m]
<r4v3r23[m]> "zk-starks were discussed years..." <- bit of a hype train if I am honest
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k4r4b3y[m]1
Full membership proofs bro
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r4v3r23[m]
<susman1[m]> "bit of a hype train if I am..." <- seth is a johnny-come-lately, he didnt start anything new
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susman1[m]
fr
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side-trips[m]
Which is more helpful/impactful to the network (and why) running a node or mining? I don't mean incentive here either, just general utility/practicality
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ofrnxmr[m]
Doesnt matter
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ofrnxmr[m]
Impactful = depends on your hashrate
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ofrnxmr[m]
Helpful = just spending monero is helpful
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k4r4b3y[m]1
And hoarding
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ofrnxmr[m]
Hoarding isnt really
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ofrnxmr[m]
hoarding can lead to value apretiation
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ofrnxmr[m]
Appreciation
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k4r4b3y[m]1
Spending is helpful because it helps cycle the decoys?
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ofrnxmr[m]
But its largely indirect. Plenty of POS chains that prove as much
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ofrnxmr[m]
Scarcity doesnt = anything, unless the asset is in demand
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ofrnxmr[m]
k4r4b3y[m]1: also because it pays miners
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ofrnxmr[m]
Id rather mine 0.66 blocks than 0.6
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ofrnxmr[m]
Mining is a service
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ofrnxmr[m]
I mine your transactions
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k4r4b3y[m]1
What's the current percentage of tottal tx fee per block to block reward?
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ofrnxmr[m]
No transactions to mine, what am i mining for?
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ofrnxmr[m]
A pyramid scheme?
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k4r4b3y[m]1
ofrnxmr[m]: You are mining for the block reward.
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ofrnxmr[m]
About 10% on the high end
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ofrnxmr[m]
But much lower on avg
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ofrnxmr[m]
k4r4b3y[m]1: Thats a pryamid scheme
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bridgerton[m]
<BobbedBort***> bitinfocharts.com tells me fees are currently 1.5% of the total block reward
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bridgerton[m]
<BobbedBort***> at least on average
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k4r4b3y[m]1
ofrnxmr[m]: As expected. Monero was specifically designed not to rely on tx fees being a significant portion of the miner payouts. Wrong
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k4r4b3y[m]1
* As expected. Monero was specifically designed not to rely on tx fees being a significant portion of the miner payouts. Wrong?
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ofrnxmr[m]
Mining for the block reward? What a shitcoin
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ofrnxmr[m]
Youre supposed to get rewarded with tx fees
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ofrnxmr[m]
Because, yknow, the blockchain is supposed to work
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ofrnxmr[m]
k4r4b3y[m]1: Wrong
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k4r4b3y[m]1
ofrnxmr[m]: This is the btc-chain
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ofrnxmr[m]
Monero is designed to not die today due to no reward
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ofrnxmr[m]
Monero is designed so that the reward shrinks as fees grow
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ofrnxmr[m]
And that fees can and should exlipse the rewsrd
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ofrnxmr[m]
The reward is not a reward
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ofrnxmr[m]
0.6xmr/2min is 1/6th of the worlds current rate of population growth
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k4r4b3y[m]1
ofrnxmr[m]: The individual fees per tx gets shrinked, afaik. That's what I heard
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bridgerton[m]
<BobbedBort***> tho I doubt we'll see fees surpass the 0.6 XMR mark per block
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ofrnxmr[m]
In other words, 1/6th as much as it shoukd be if we had global adoption
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bridgerton[m]
<BobbedBort***> at least within our lifetimes
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ofrnxmr[m]
k4r4b3y[m]1: Yes, individuak fees shrinks AFTER a new block size is reached
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side-trips[m]
well Imma run a node to feel like I'm helping the network even if I'm not
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ofrnxmr[m]
But total fees grow and eclipse the block reward
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bridgerton[m]
<BobbedBort***> running a node is also good security practice
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ofrnxmr[m]
And while reaching a new block size, fees much go up
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ofrnxmr[m]
You pay miners to increase the block size for your transactions
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ofrnxmr[m]
Eithrr you remain limited to 0.6xmr or you one day have 3xmr in fees
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ofrnxmr[m]
If you remove the reward, its another scam like btc
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k4r4b3y[m]1
Is 0.6 xmr bad? It also depends on its purchasing power.
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ofrnxmr[m]
Where thr supply is "early adopters only"
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ofrnxmr[m]
And doesnt account for population growth or adoption
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ofrnxmr[m]
k4r4b3y[m]1: Depends on adoption / reach
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k4r4b3y[m]1
ofrnxmr[m]: Wait I don't get this remark.
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ofrnxmr[m]
If we hit 1/6th of worth population, its perfect
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ofrnxmr[m]
If we hit less, its slightly inflationary
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ofrnxmr[m]
If we hit more, deflationary
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ofrnxmr[m]
k4r4b3y[m]1: The reward allow new children to have access to new money
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ofrnxmr[m]
The population was 6b a few years ago
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ofrnxmr[m]
18m/6b
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ofrnxmr[m]
what happens when 6b more people are born?
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ofrnxmr[m]
The hoards hoard?
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ofrnxmr[m]
Simply the rate of inflation is 1/6th the rate of population growth
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ofrnxmr[m]
So 40k today remains 40k tomorrow
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ofrnxmr[m]
(assuming 1/6th global adoption)
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Alex|LocalMonero
When you use "inflationary" do you mean the neoclassical interpretation or the austrian?
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ofrnxmr[m]
I mean the ofrnxmr interpretation. Brb googling
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Alex|LocalMonero
Guessing neoclassical in that case.
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k4r4b3y[m]1
Well even with monero's inflation rate, you won't quench the thirst for new money if the monero's userbase doubles (12b people in your example). Monero's inflation rate wasn't put taking such rate of change in monetary-unit demands.
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k4r4b3y[m]1
Monero's inflation (or its emission rate) isn't adaptive. It was a good guess that was done 9 yrs ago.
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Alex|LocalMonero
In that case it's hard to predict whether the XMR economy will have a deflationary or inflationary tendency, as time preference and the need for money varies greatly between people.
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k4r4b3y[m]1
Yeah
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Alex|LocalMonero
Gold had quite an unpredictable supply and yet prices remained quite stable historically.
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k4r4b3y[m]1
I am countering ofrn's supposition that purely xmr having tail emission makes it better than btc with no tail emission
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k4r4b3y[m]1
With regards to answering the demans for its units.
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Alex|LocalMonero
Tail emission is better, because coin loss happens.
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k4r4b3y[m]1
I like xmr 's tail emission is better
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k4r4b3y[m]1
I was countering ofrn's example
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Alex|LocalMonero
BTC is destined to hard fork for smaller subidivisions when coin loss will lead to 1 sat being too valuable.
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k4r4b3y[m]1
Ofrn seems to believe that xmr's tail emission provides better solution to demand in xmr units. I say xmr protocol is totally unaware in such demand changes to its units. So it cannot satisfy the change in the demand to its units.
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Alex|LocalMonero
s/subidivisions/subdivisions/
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bridgerton[m]
<BobbedBort***> > The population was 6b a few years ago
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bridgerton[m]
Just checked that was 1999, just saying
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ofrnxmr[m]
Id say neoclassical after a quick read
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k4r4b3y[m]1
* Ofrn seems to believe that xmr's tail emission provides better solution to change in demand to xmr units. I say xmr protocol is totally unaware in such demand changes to its units. So it cannot satisfy the change in the demand to its units.
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k4r4b3y[m]1
* Ofrn seems to believe that xmr's tail emission provides better solution to change in demand to xmr units. I say xmr protocol is totally unaware to such demand changes to its units. So it cannot satisfy the change in the demand to its units.
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Alex|LocalMonero
k4r4b3y[m]1: You're right, it's like a broken clock that might happen to be correct if the growth in demand perfectly matches the tail emission rate.
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Alex|LocalMonero
It's not actively adaptive towards changes in demand, nor should it be.
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k4r4b3y[m]1
<ofrnxmr[m]> "18m/6b..." <- > <@ofrnxmr:monero.social> 18m/6b
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k4r4b3y[m]1
>
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k4r4b3y[m]1
> what happens when 6b more people are born?
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k4r4b3y[m]1
Like, this point doesn't make sense.
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ofrnxmr[m]
Alex|LocalMonero: ^ exactlt why xmr doesnt have this problem as long as we remain under 1/6th the current population
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ofrnxmr[m]
xmr has 18m in circulation
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ofrnxmr[m]
Btc has 19
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k4r4b3y[m]1
k4r4b3y[m]1: Simply because there is 0.6 xmr every 2 minutes doesn't mean this will be an adequate speed of money creation.
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ofrnxmr[m]
in 100 years btc will only allow access to 10% more btc
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ofrnxmr[m]
k4r4b3y[m]1: Assuminfg CURRENT rate of pupulation growth, yes it does
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bridgerton[m]
<BobbedBort***> population growth rates are changing fast though
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ofrnxmr[m]
For 1/6th of the world or 1.3b users
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ofrnxmr[m]
bridgerton[m]: They are
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ofrnxmr[m]
Which is why the 0.6 might not be adequate long term, but right now we have far less than 1/6th of world population living in xmr econonies
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Alex|LocalMonero
There's about $50 trillion M0+M1 globally
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Alex|LocalMonero
about 8b people
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Alex|LocalMonero
Which equates to an average of $6250 per human on earth
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Rucknium[m]
The equation of exchange is a good starting point:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equation_of_exchange
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Alex|LocalMonero
If XMR had a market cap of $50t, with 18m in circulation, one piconero would be worth 0.000002777778 USD
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ofrnxmr[m]
Thats 1xmr @ 2.7m?
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Alex|LocalMonero
Which means that the average XMR per human (assuming all humans hold XMR) is 0.00225 XMR
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Alex|LocalMonero
ofrnxmr[m]: Yes.
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ofrnxmr[m]
Alex | LocalMonero | AgoraDesk: ty
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ofrnxmr[m]
I totally forgpt what math i did, but now i remember
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Alex|LocalMonero
Maybe you calculated using just M0?
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ofrnxmr[m]
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ofrnxmr[m]
I did the original math from from a different starting point, but seems to check out
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ofrnxmr[m]
Alex | LocalMonero | AgoraDesk: let me know if i messed up
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Capybara[m]
hey
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Capybara[m]
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lza_menace
as safe as a third party swap aggregator could be, sure
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lza_menace
many people have used it successfully
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Capybara[m]
any fees?
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Capybara[m]
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Capybara[m]
not the third party swap
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Capybara[m]
them self
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ofrnxmr[m]
No
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ofrnxmr[m]
Trocador.i2p as well if you want a more private entrypoint
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lza_menace
i believe they only collect fees from the swap services they integrate by receiving parts of their fees
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Capybara[m]
cool
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Capybara[m]
thanks
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lza_menace
Morpheus[m] is involved and can give more factual answers :)
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Alex|LocalMonero
<ofrnxmr[m]> "1/6th of money supply 50t / 6 =..." <- > <@ofrnxmr:monero.social> 1/6th of money supply 50t / 6 = 8.33t... (full message at <
libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/do…b4ae1a27e24e1aa991b606e69c762b643bf>)
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Alex|LocalMonero
recall that a relatively small amount of money today can be used to achieve the same quality of life as it took the richest egyptian pharaohs to achieve 4000 years ago
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ofrnxmr[m]
The 1/6 was becauee i started my math initially from the bottom and scaled up
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ofrnxmr[m]
Instead of from 50t and scaling down
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ofrnxmr[m]
* never got to the 50t 8b numbers - i started with emission and finished with 1.3b prople at 11m/yr growth
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ofrnxmr[m]
Alex | LocalMonero | AgoraDesk: were 100% in agreement
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ofrnxmr[m]
My point was that, btc not having a block reward doesnt account for population/adoption at all
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Morpheus[m]
<Capybara[m]> "using
trocador.app" <- We dont charge any fee above exchange prices. Each exchange share some of their commission with us, but that's it.
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Morpheus[m]
<ofrnxmr[m]> "Trocador.i2p as well if you want..." <- This
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Capybara[m]
Morpheus[m]: "we" ?
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Capybara[m]
are you the admin?
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Alex|LocalMonero
Capybara[m]: You're talking to the big boss at trocador
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Capybara[m]
Alex|LocalMonero: Oh shit
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Morpheus[m]
Capybara[m]: Yes hahah
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Morpheus[m]
Alex|LocalMonero: Thanks Alex xD
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ofrnxmr[m]
Morpheus actually works for me, but i dont do public relations /s
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Morpheus[m]
Hahahah I work for everyone in the community. Every single user is our boss
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Morpheus[m]
But yeah ofrnxmr is such a pain in the ass that we obey whatever he says
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ofrnxmr[m]
see? He didnt deny it ✅
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Capybara[m]
What are some tips to prevent boating accidents?
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Capybara[m]
I don't want to lose my monero in a boating accident
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Capybara[m]
xD
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ofrnxmr[m]
write your seed in permanant marker on your fridge at gone and work
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ofrnxmr[m]
disclaomer: you wont have a boating accident, but might just have your whole boat stolen
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Capybara[m]
How about keyloggers?
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Capybara[m]
on phones
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Capybara[m]
or not?
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ofrnxmr[m]
Mysu wallet update is out @ Mysu.dev
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CidadodoMonerist
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CidadodoMonerist
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