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DanrdarkIsnotthe
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k4r4b3y[m]
I like monero.town (and in general the federated structure of lemmy)
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k4r4b3y[m]
I see that forum.monero.space got rebranded? It was using the flarum forum software before. And now it switched to discourse software/
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k4r4b3y[m]
If its ofurm software was going to change anyways, why wasn't lemmy picked?
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k4r4b3y[m]
that way, monero.town and forum.monero.space could've bridged to each other (via the magical powers of federation)
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k4r4b3y[m]
and we wouldn't be asking the question: "to which should we direct the newcomers?"
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Mxthecomputerfox
wait, there are mastodon servers for the monero community?
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DanrdarkIsnotthe
Only the fluffy
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DanrdarkIsnotthe
No offical for some reason
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cockliuser[m]
<k4r4b3y[m]> "If its ofurm software was..." <- > <@k4r4b3y:karapara.net> If its ofurm software was going to change anyways, why wasn't lemmy picked?
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cockliuser[m]
>
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cockliuser[m]
Lemmy isn't forum-ish I'd say
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cockliuser[m]
When you hear forum you expect BB forums, not reddit clones
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k4r4b3y[m]
cockliuser[m]: > <@cockliuser:matrix.org>
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k4r4b3y[m]
> Lemmy isn't forum-ish I'd say
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k4r4b3y[m]
no but it can be
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k4r4b3y[m]
cockliuser[m]: > <@cockliuser:matrix.org> When you hear forum you expect BB forums, not reddit clones
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k4r4b3y[m]
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k4r4b3y[m]
also, the reddit modal of doing the online discussion is nowadays much more familiar to the netizens than how it was back in the BB days.
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cockliuser[m]
yeah but it's not really forum-like
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cockliuser[m]
reddit mode of discussion encourages echo chambers
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DanrdarkIsnotthe
More like discussion
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k4r4b3y[m]
I agree with the echo chamber stuff. However, isolated discussion communities like a singular instance of discourse is _also_ a breeding ground for echo chambers.
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k4r4b3y[m]
at least with federation, one can hear different voices from other instances.
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k4r4b3y[m]
that's my point: I wouldn't want to see a separation of online monero discourse between monero.town and forum.monero.space
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k4r4b3y[m]
they can be federated. we have the tech. let's use the federation.
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k4r4b3y[m]
I mean, forum.monero.space has been abandoned for years since nobody knew it existed
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k4r4b3y[m]
I was checking it from time to time and it was choke-full of AI spam messages
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k4r4b3y[m]
now it is getting rebranded with discourse software, but since it can't be federated, it is still under the danger being abandoned again
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monerobull[m]
thats pretty cool
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monerobull[m]
the bb thing
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monerobull[m]
<k4r4b3y[m]> "also, the reddit modal of..." <- i wouldnt use it becaues of this. it looks like stuff people used before i was born
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k4r4b3y[m]
monerobull[m]: > <@monerobull:matrix.org> the bb thing
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k4r4b3y[m]
I agree. I will install that to my website, too. And then federate with monero.town
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DanrdarkIsnotthe
I only care that my rss reader works with it
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k4r4b3y[m]
DanrdarkIsnotthe: > <@123bob123:matrix.org> I only care that my rss reader works with it
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k4r4b3y[m]
lemmy does
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DanrdarkIsnotthe
Yeahย
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DanrdarkIsnotthe
Miniflux working with monero.town
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playmate7782[m]
am bit confused. whats the diff between public view key and private view key?
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playmate7782[m]
public view for total mount on wallet and private for each transaction??
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playmate7782[m]
am I getting right?
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playmate7782[m]
one example earlier at beginning said charity using BITCOIN might get less charity if people think xyz charity got enough.
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playmate7782[m]
now 5 chapter its says for transparency charity can share public view key
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playmate7782[m]
what happen if I accidentally share private view key? its danger for future anonymity of transaction max right?
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playmate7782[m]
funds are safe as long as private spend key safe right?
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playmate7782[m]
or its like I can check one single transaction which I sent to charity
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cockliuser[m]
If you share your private view key, the person who has your private view key can see your incoming transactions
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playmate7782[m]
* to charity with Charity's public view
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playmate7782[m]
whats info can some one else know with my public view key? total balance or confirmation of one single transaction?
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cockliuser[m]
Your address contains your public view key+public spend key
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cockliuser[m]
To get the total balance the observer will need both your private view key and private spend key
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cockliuser[m]
Private spend key for outgoing transactions and private view key for incoming transactions
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playmate7782[m]
am reading mastering monero.
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playmate7782[m]
got confused with this phrase "if u make donation to the public address, you ca use the view key to verify that the charity received your fund"
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cockliuser[m]
Ah yeah, if the charity has published its view key, you can check if it received some donation you sent, through a view only wallet
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cockliuser[m]
The private view key exposes all incoming transactions to the charity's wallet
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playmate7782[m]
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playmate7782[m]
dont know if am getting confused because of name.
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cockliuser[m]
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playmate7782[m]
I get it that transaction are anonymous.
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playmate7782[m]
their is eg of charity willing sharing Public view key for transparency
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cockliuser[m]
The charity shares the *private* view key
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cockliuser[m]
Public view and spend key are simply for receiving funds
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playmate7782[m]
cockliuser[m]: I understand Bitcoin and 2 keys.
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playmate7782[m]
understand public and private key
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suitslie[m]
cockliuser[m]: is the public send one used by the external party to prepare the transaction for some address?
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cockliuser[m]
* receiving funds (your address is the combination of public view and spend key)
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cockliuser[m]
* receiving funds (your address is the combination of public view and public spend key)
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suitslie[m]
err, so that is a yes?
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cockliuser[m]
Public view and spend key, but yeah
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suitslie[m]
is there a pair for each subaddress?
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suitslie[m]
must be because otherwise one could associate addresses?
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playmate7782[m]
no but next para books says charity cannot reveal outgling transaction
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suitslie[m]
i'll need to learn
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cockliuser[m]
suitslie[m]: Monerodocs has a good page about subaddresses
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cockliuser[m]
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playmate7782[m]
Ok just tell me can I view outgoing transaction with private view key
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cockliuser[m]
playmate7782[m]: Nope
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cockliuser[m]
Just incoming ones
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cockliuser[m]
You need the private spend key for outgoing transactions
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k4r4b3y[m]
cockliuser[m]: > <@cockliuser:matrix.org>
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k4r4b3y[m]
> Nope
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k4r4b3y[m]
SeraphisFixesThis
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playmate7782[m]
cockliuser[m]: am reading mastering monero because its in simple English. would not read this book if I could understand docs and white paper
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cockliuser[m]
playmate7782[m]: That message was addressed to suitslie lol
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playmate7782[m]
cockliuser[m]: ok now thats clears lot of dount
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playmate7782[m]
* ok now thats clears lot of doubt
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cockliuser[m]
* Monerodocs has a good page about subaddresses and how the respective keys are derived for each subaddress
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playmate7782[m]
cockliuser[m]: am saying not spending but viewing past transaction
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cockliuser[m]
Yeah, you can't view outgoing transactions with the private view key
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playmate7782[m]
can private view key see past spebd transaction. am not talking about spending fund
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playmate7782[m]
cockliuser[m]: ok
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playmate7782[m]
got it
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playmate7782[m]
now will read again whole thing. it will be cleared
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k4r4b3y[m]
I love how quick the first 800 000 blocks of monero blockchain syncs...
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playmate7782[m]
<cockliuser[m]> "Public view and spend key are..." <- ๐๐๐๐
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suitslie[m]
<cockliuser[m]> "Monerodocs has a good page about..." <- ๐ค
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