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Nothaveld
There is a site called Reiya and in their own words, "Reiya provides an easy way for anyone to support the Tor network by donating Monero to independent relay operators." "All relay data, including bandwidth statistics and XMR addresses, is fetched from Onionoo, an official service ran by the Tor Project." Every month on the second day, each relay will receive a percentage of the donation wallet equivalent to how much data they
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Nothaveld
have relayed
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Nothaveld
so if you got any Monero to spare, and would like to support Tor relay operators, please consider supporting this Initiative
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Nothaveld
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Nothaveld
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ajs_[m]
last MoneroKon 2023 Planning Meeting today @ 17:00 UTC in #monero-events:monero.social
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ajs_[m]
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ShaneonConduitrs
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k4r4b3y[m]
@boog900:monero.social do you have a matrix chat for cuprate?
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suitslie[m]
<Nothaveld> "Website: <
reiya.io>" <- half of those relays are quetzcoatl though
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suitslie[m]
is that a confirmed legit relay or one of those bandiwth spynode monsters?
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suitslie[m]
* is that a confirmed legit relay or one of those high bandwith spynode monsters?
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suitslie[m]
* is that a confirmed legit relay or one of those high bandwidth spynode monsters?
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suitslie[m]
i suppose those might just be kyun's nodes though
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boog900[m]
<k4r4b3y[m]> "@boog900:monero.social do you..." <- > <@k4r4b3y:karapara.net> @boog900:monero.social do you have a matrix chat for cuprate?
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boog900[m]
>
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boog900[m]
Nope we have a Revolt server though
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boog900[m]
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playmate7782[m]
doea 2 min blocktime compared to 10 min trade security for faster transaction??
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playmate7782[m]
I guess original idea for 10 min was to avoid ot make hard 51% attack.
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playmate7782[m]
but since monero transaction are anonymous how can one reverse transaction if one have too much computer power
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playmate7782[m]
no one can know wallet address. transactions not like to wallet right?
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playmate7782[m]
Can USA gov use its max resources and do 51% attack on monero?
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playmate7782[m]
wont ASIC make it harder?
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playmate7782[m]
s/like/linked/
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ceetee[m]
<playmate7782[m]> "doea 2 min blocktime compared to..." <- faster initial confirmation. Withdraw is slower because of the 10 block delay time.
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ceetee[m]
playmate7782[m]: > <@playmate7782:matrix.org> I guess original idea for 10 min was to avoid ot make hard 51% attack.
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ceetee[m]
>
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ceetee[m]
> but since monero transaction are anonymous how can one reverse transaction if one have too much computer power
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ceetee[m]
double spend still possible, spender has all the information he needs
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playmate7782[m]
it has to do with less mem pool
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playmate7782[m]
ok but spender can do not some one else right?
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playmate7782[m]
3rd party with no info, can he fuck with monero blockchain just to destroy monero if he have unlimiter resources
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ceetee[m]
playmate7782[m]: yes and no. They dont have idle CPU power and and they would have to shutdown more important things. And besides double spending they can't do much else, on bitcoin you can eg censor transactions with a 51% attack
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ceetee[m]
playmate7782[m]: No third party can prevent us forking an earlier state. Would still be a blow though, agreed
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playmate7782[m]
oh yea. I forgot about fork
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playmate7782[m]
so some one can have temporary pleasure after spending lot of money but cannot fuck it permanently
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ceetee[m]
<playmate7782[m]> "wont ASIC make it harder?" <- \>be government... (full message at <
libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/do…f1593454f25d580800dcbfba75a30d5aced>)
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playmate7782[m]
👍👍
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DanrdarkIsnotthe
Tax asic
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ceetee[m]
With randomX they'd have to outlaw general purpose CPUs, lol
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ceetee[m]
I'll mine on my car head unit, if I have to
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k4r4b3y[m]
reaching enlightenment is mining on any and all idle CPUs around you.
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playmate7782[m]
whats monero blocksize now
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playmate7782[m]
I havr 128 gb sd card
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playmate7782[m]
should I order 1 tb to mine/run full node on pi
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ceetee[m]
no
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playmate7782[m]
or cant mine on pi
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ceetee[m]
raspberry is shit for that
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plowsof11
Trigger warning for pi
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playmate7782[m]
am going run full node
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ceetee[m]
because no hardware AES instructions
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playmate7782[m]
yea I know Pi Is shit
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ceetee[m]
full node also bad on rpi
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playmate7782[m]
it heats
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ceetee[m]
because slow AF storage
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playmate7782[m]
we have 40+ cel here in summer
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ceetee[m]
shitty nodes make the network worse
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playmate7782[m]
ceetee[m]: ok
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playmate7782[m]
how about running node without downloading entire block chain
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plowsof11
A full node though is 160+GB now
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ceetee[m]
playmate7782[m]: Well then its not a full node
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playmate7782[m]
yes
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playmate7782[m]
if I buy 500gb sd card
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k4r4b3y[m]
playmate7782[m]: > <@playmate7782:matrix.org> how about running node without downloading entire block chain
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k4r4b3y[m]
do it pruned. it is 1/3 the full node size.
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playmate7782[m]
can I
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playmate7782[m]
yup I forgot the word PRUNED
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playmate7782[m]
My plan is to have a raspberry pi 4b only to run monero wallet
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DanrdarkIsnotthe
Tree trimming
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k4r4b3y[m]
this walks you through the setup:
landchad.net/monerod
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playmate7782[m]
nothingbelse
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ceetee[m]
SDcard has poor randomIO performance and the CPU has poor AES performance; both are critical for a smooth node operation
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DanrdarkIsnotthe
Pixmrnode
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playmate7782[m]
* nothing else
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playmate7782[m]
ceetee[m]: can I have custom wotds?
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playmate7782[m]
* can I have custom words
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playmate7782[m]
on electrum wallet I added few words to SEED words
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ceetee[m]
DO NOT choose your own words for the seed
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ceetee[m]
it reduces randomness and makes it weaket
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playmate7782[m]
ceetee[m]: I dont. I let wallet generate seed words for my bitcoin. and add 6 words of my own which I wont forget
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playmate7782[m]
so if TAX authority gets 12 words
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playmate7782[m]
all they see is empty wallet
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oneeyedalien
what is the consensus on the best hardware wallet these days? Trezor? An airgapped raspberry pi (lol)?
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ceetee[m]
there is no concensus
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k4r4b3y[m]
playmate7782[m]: > <@playmate7782:matrix.org>
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k4r4b3y[m]
> I dont. I let wallet generate seed words for my bitcoin. and add 6 words of my own which I wont forget
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k4r4b3y[m]
yeah you can do this with monero, too
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playmate7782[m]
I only write auto generated seed words on paper
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k4r4b3y[m]
I think it is called a "decoy wallet" or something like that
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playmate7782[m]
not added worde
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ceetee[m]
The way to do it is with a secret seed offset
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k4r4b3y[m]
oneeyedalien: > <@oneeyedalien:libera.chat> what is the consensus on the best hardware wallet these days? Trezor? An airgapped raspberry pi (lol)?
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k4r4b3y[m]
for me, it is feather wallet on a tailsOS persistent storage
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ceetee[m]
offset 0 => decoy wallet
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ceetee[m]
offset 164917491=> real wallet
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ceetee[m]
(or any other offset)
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playmate7782[m]
I can have multiple copies of my 12 words. and then I can add first 6 President or first 6 months jan, feb, etc
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playmate7782[m]
no worries about relatives fucking with me or tax authority or robber
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ceetee[m]
ceetee[m]: This is good because it gives you plausible deniability
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playmate7782[m]
so everyone trusted have 12 word out of 18
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plowsof11
How many words does a monero seed have playmate
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plowsof11
How many presidents lmao
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plowsof11
Mastering monero must contain some wild information (which you claim to be reading)
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ceetee[m]
not sure how many words
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ceetee[m]
Was it 24¿
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ceetee[m]
Or 25?
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ceetee[m]
* Was it 24?
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plowsof11
XD
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playmate7782[m]
<plowsof11> "How many words does a monero..." <- was giving an eg. on bitcoin electrum wallet I added 6 on auto generated 12
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playmate7782[m]
so was asking can I do same with Monero
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playmate7782[m]
make it 30
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playmate7782[m]
?
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playmate7782[m]
am asking is it possible to add words to autogenerated words
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playmate7782[m]
I dont want to create all 24 seed myself
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playmate7782[m]
<plowsof11> "How many presidents lmao" <- I am from India. we have 15 president
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playmate7782[m]
whole idea is let wallet create auto generated seed. write on paper seed words. add first 5 president at tail of seed words. so Its easy to remember its SEED WORDS + 6 PRESIDENT
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playmate7782[m]
anyone if get my seed words still dont know about added words on seed
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playmate7782[m]
I can have multiple copy of seed words at diff places without worrying about it going to wrong hands
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playmate7782[m]
s/5/6/
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playmate7782[m]
if anyone finds my 12 words seed of bitcoin they will see its never user wallet
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playmate7782[m]
so I want to do same with monero. now this depends on wallet to wallet
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playmate7782[m]
* to wallet on bitcoin
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playmate7782[m]
s/user/used/
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Side-trips[m]
Where is the most comprehensive source of monero's history and major improvements? I was wondering how long monero has been as functional as it is now--then I remembered that's mostly opinion based on a bunch of factors like convenience, speed, etc
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playmate7782[m]
my past experience with monero was With FREE WALLET. and I sold my moneroj in 2017 itself as was on conclusion that monero was shitcoin.
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playmate7782[m]
now I want to go all in monero. my moneroj are still on centralised exchange
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playmate7782[m]
will withrraw soon
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Side-trips[m]
doitnow
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playmate7782[m]
have bitcoin on self custody
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plowsof11
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bobram[m]
Do you guys know any good SIP provider paid with Monero?
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anhdres[m]
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plowsof11
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Side-trips[m]
delicious
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Side-trips[m]
I swear on everything, monero community is the most helpful/resourceful thing I've ever been apart of
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naphtha[m]
it's the best place on the internet really
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naphtha[m]
and i've been on the internet for a pretty long time
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rottenwheel
Hey naphtha, check this out.
monerica-project/monerica #70
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rottenwheel
Kyun is on there too.
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k4r4b3y[m]
Side-trips[m]: Monero is king.
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k4r4b3y[m]
May we never degenerate like the btc-ers
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ceetee[m]
<anhdres[m]> "
link.medium.com..." <- ublock complains about the first because of possible tracking. this is better:
anhdres.medium.com/416ff5198b2e
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ceetee[m]
very good explanation though
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anhdres[m]
Yeah I was on mobile and didn't checked
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plowsof11
anhdres i hope tom doesnt hear about this
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chowbungaman[m]1
Join us folks! Live now:
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chowbungaman[m]1
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chowbungaman[m]1
Remember all are always welcome to jump up on stage via the streamyard link to share any monero related comments during the “viewers on stage” segment:
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chowbungaman[m]1
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naphtha[m]
<rottenwheel> "Hey naphtha, check this out..." <- nice
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zacharymason[m]
You can earn $10,000.00 with your pc or phone in just 72 hours, to get started click on and ask how
t.me/@ChristopherJackson12
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someoneelse49549
zacharymason[m]: FUCK YOU
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naphtha[m]
kyys
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naphtha[m]
great minds think alike mr cake
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Side-trips[m]
Chris is not answering me, pls someone tell me how to make so much money so fast
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naphtha[m]
same
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playmate7782[m]
am midway 5th chapter
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playmate7782[m]
I think I must stop reading
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playmate7782[m]
am disappointed with mastering monero
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playmate7782[m]
does not meet expectations
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playmate7782[m]
any alternative book
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playmate7782[m]
?
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playmate7782[m]
or shall I not expect to understand unless I am good at maths and know bit of encryption
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playmate7782[m]
any video explaining RINGCT
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playmate7782[m]
am confused. if I do a transaction. where does are find decoy transaction ?
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playmate7782[m]
s/are/wallet/
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playmate7782[m]
what is key image Actually?
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playmate7782[m]
kind of Hash?
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playmate7782[m]
and everytime a transaction is done, entire blockchain is cjecked to make sure key image not present?
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playmate7782[m]
s/cjecked/checked/
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playmate7782[m]
wont it be time consuming as time passes ? or whole blockchain can be scanning in seconds?
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ofrnxmr[m]
Rct outpudistributiont
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ofrnxmr[m]
Takes sub 100ms to find decoys from node
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playmate7782[m]
and what is median block size today
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playmate7782[m]
still dynamic blocksize follows median of last 100 rule
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playmate7782[m]
am asking became this book is old compared to development speed in crypto
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ofrnxmr[m]
Xmrchain.net
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k4r4b3y[m]
playmate7782[m]: A second edition is sorely needed
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boog900[m]
<playmate7782[m]> "and everytime a transaction is..." <- the node keeps a list of spent key images
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playmate7782[m]
does heavier transaction means big amount or big size?
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playmate7782[m]
In bitcoin I know that if I send some one 10 bitcoin from 5 diff 2 bitcoin input, size increases compared to single 10 btc to 10 btc transaction. sp same thing applies in Monero?
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playmate7782[m]
s/sp/so/
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Rucknium[m]
playmate7782: Yes. You can have a large number of inputs to a Monero transaction. Each input has its own ring. The max number of outputs is 16
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Rucknium[m]
Read Zero to Monero 2.0 if Mastering Monero isn't detailed enough
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Rucknium[m]
A larger number of inputs and outputs increases the transaction size.
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playmate7782[m]
Rucknium[m]: after completing this will surely check it
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playmate7782[m]
and one thing boggles me. bitcoin has 1 mb blocksize.... (full message at <
libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/do…c18818dbeeccada999d4a8603c27ddfe45f>)
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playmate7782[m]
so dynamics blocksize of monero still smaller than bitcoin?????
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playmate7782[m]
and this means eventually monero might have scalling problem?? whats happens if monero transaction organically jumps 1000X or 10000X in next 5 years.
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playmate7782[m]
how much blocksize will be needed if monero traffic jumps 1000X
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playmate7782[m]
maintaining median size of last 100 blocks and with rapid growth, what happens of median blocksize is above threshhold
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playmate7782[m]
how will miners get paid? will developers change code and increase limit of block size?
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playmate7782[m]
before reading I thought monero might have blocksize same as bcash or more. I thought dynamic blocksize might be touching 100mb plus during high traffic
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playmate7782[m]
so when people think dynamic, people assume it can go in GB and dont bother to understand
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playmate7782[m]
s/think/read/
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playmate7782[m]
eventually people will ask about scaling and compare it VISA. can I get links about how Monero plan to solve
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RavFX[m]
Monero can already outpace VISA right now AFAIK.
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RavFX[m]
Only issue could be the storage size of the blockchain buy, hey, 50TB drives are in the oven.
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RavFX[m]
s/buy/but/
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playmate7782[m]
RavFX[m]: > <@gfdshygti53:monero.social> Monero can already outpace VISA right now AFAIK.
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playmate7782[m]
> Only issue could be the storage size of the blockchain but, hey, 50TB drives are in the oven.
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playmate7782[m]
hmmm
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playmate7782[m]
but that can decrease no of full nodes
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playmate7782[m]
that's why no one touch Bcash
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playmate7782[m]
I finally understood Btc was worst than net banking when it comes to peer to peer
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RavFX[m]
playmate7782[m]: by the time the 50TB will be on the market, you could get 20tb for very cheap I'm sure.
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playmate7782[m]
RavFX[m]: yes u got the point
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RavFX[m]
You can get 8TB drive for like 100$-ish
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playmate7782[m]
hopefully monero goes organically
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playmate7782[m]
but transactions can explode
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playmate7782[m]
s/goes/grow/
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RavFX[m]
At least there is option.
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RavFX[m]
Right now cheap storage like 1TB drive you can find literally everywhere.
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comradeblin[m]
<chowbungaman[m]1> "Join us folks! Live now:..." <- > <@chowbungaman:matrix.org> Join us folks! Live now:... (full message at <
libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/do…39ca9d4a5102cdc602e6b20a0fee52a46ad>)