<f​rightsi:waifuhunter.club> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…unter.club/vOwVXRcxkOJqutPXegkReLdm

<f​rightsi:waifuhunter.club> unknown versions? what does this mean lol

<f​rightsi:waifuhunter.club> does anyone else's display like this? It's in your Settings>Info btw

where did you download/install it from?

i would not depend on the text in settings->info to tell you its genuine .. its just text on your screen. i would confirm the hashes

<f​rightsi:waifuhunter.club> getmonero.org/downloads

click that link and download 18.3.1 , its newer :)

<f​rightsi:waifuhunter.club> i don't want to right now, the latest update does not seem to affect me as I do not use macOS

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> the gui also benefits from everything included in the cli getmonero.org/2023/10/07/monero-0.18.3.1-released.html

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> you will at least save 1 second of your life every time you open it

<f​rightsi:waifuhunter.club> i can access the cli right now in the gui, unless the daomon log is not the cli

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> oh sorry, by cli i meant monero core which is basically the back-end of the gui, definitely worth updating to 18.3.1

<f​rightsi:waifuhunter.club> <font color="#789922">&gt;&gt;&gt; version</font><p>Monero 'Fluorine Fermi' (v0.18.2.2-release) 0.18.2.2-release

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> that would be your monero daemon (monerod) version

<f​rightsi:waifuhunter.club> ahh

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> again, that is what it says in release.. but its just text.. if you are concerned please confirm hashes getmonero.org/resources/user-guides/verification-allos-advanced.html

<f​rightsi:waifuhunter.club> can i verify it when I don't have the original installer anymore and just the program files?

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> no b..but you're going to download 18.3.1 anyway right?? :((((

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> hbs i forgot to say thank you for writing that multisig how-to , ive read it but am yet to try 👍️

<h​bs:matrix.org> Please provide me with some feedback once you've followed it so I can correct any error or refine some instructions.

<f​rightsi:waifuhunter.club> I'm getting Gpg4win rn like the instruction is telling me to

<f​rightsi:waifuhunter.club> now it says i need to verify... my gpg verifier...

<f​rightsi:waifuhunter.club> gpg4win.org/package-integrity.html

<f​rightsi:waifuhunter.club> instructions not clear, how do match this in file properties?

<f​rightsi:waifuhunter.club> instructions not clear, how do I match this in the file properties?

<f​rightsi:waifuhunter.club> also though i highly doubt that i somehow got a malicious copy, suppose i did what should i do to secure my funds afterwards

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> depends what the malicious copy has done to your computer, but you would need to transfer the funds to another wallet

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> and for checking gpg4win (several methods) wiki.gnupg.org/Gpg4win/CheckIntegrity

<f​rightsi:waifuhunter.club> <font color="#789922">&gt;When trying to run the installer on Windows, the User Access Control dialog will show the publisher, check that it is the one you expected it to be. :)</font>

<f​rightsi:waifuhunter.club> who do i expect it to be??

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> 3d-imaging.co.uk/blog/verifying-pgp4win

As far as I remember, unfortunately the installer is not signed, so Windows won't judge it to be from a trustworthy source and show the name of the source

It will basically just ask "Do you trust this?" Which, if you verified the installer using the hash, you can, IMHO.

<f​rightsi:waifuhunter.club> i need to sleep, i'll continue this tomorrow

Good idea :)

"Be your own bank" can be pretty exhausting

<5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> If i have 13,7989434781 XMR is there a denotation that can expres the 4781 ?

<5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> If i have 13,7989434781 XMR is there a denotation that can expres the 4781 as a whole number?

<5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> If i have 13,7989434781 XMR is there a denotation that can express the 4781 as a whole number?

<c​trej:matrix.org> is 4781 nanoXMR or in short 4781nXMR what you are looking for?

<i​ntr:envs.net> (I thought it was called piconero)

<e​ndor00:matrix.org> Actually it should be 478.1 nXMR, unless I miscounted digits

<e​ndor00:matrix.org> There should be two more digits for the piconeros

<c​trej:matrix.org> 13,798 943 4781

<i​ntr:envs.net> oh you're right

<i​ntr:envs.net> I need glasses

<e​ndor00:matrix.org> Yeah, reading 12 decimal places can be a pita lol

<c​trej:matrix.org> dealing with nF and pF values all day finally paid of :D

<i​ntr:envs.net> hah

<5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> trying to use Monero's approach to denomination to calculate the age of universe to be more manageable on daily bases by using the last four digits instead of 13.8 billion

<5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> tbh trying to use Monero's approach to denomination to calculate the age of universe to be more manageable on daily bases by using the last four digits instead of 13.8 billion

<i​ntr:envs.net> what?

<5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> bcs i often use e.g. 4 centichans to refer to 0.04 XMR and alike and though it could be used there as well

<i​ntr:envs.net> getmonero.org/resources/moneropedia/denominations.html like this?

<5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> ye

<5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> but it's using the metric system and the last 4 digits would end up being a fractional number

<5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> and saying that today is the year 478.1 seems really stupid

<i​ntr:envs.net> oh wait I see now, you're working on a novel of sorts, right?

<5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> ye

<5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> like novel timekeeping system

<5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> meaning new

<5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> where novel meaning new

<5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> to elaborate we currently use the gregorian calendar that indexes 1 AD as the birth of jesus christ.. i want to make a new calendar that is using the age of the universe as it's index but the issue is that the number is 137989434781 years since big bang

<5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> So i was thinking that i could define it as 13,7989434781 and use monero's slang/denomination to express the last 4 digits

<5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> as monero seems to have the same problem and the denomination seems to be the solution to it

<5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> as monero seems to have the same problem and the denomination seems to be the solution to it there

<5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> actually i was able to calculate it from this, thanks!

<e​ndor00:matrix.org> The next denomination in SI units would be 478100 picoNeros

<5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> | Name | Base 10 | Amount |

<5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> | ---------- | ------- | --------------------- |

<5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> | PicoCE | 10^-12 | 300.0 pCE |

<5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> | NanoCE | 10^-9 | 202.3 nCE |

<5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> | MicroCE | 10^-6 | 943.2023 μCE |

<5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> | MilliCE | 10^-3 | 787.9432023 mCE |

<5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> | CentiCE | 10^-2 | 78.79432023 cCE |

<5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> | DeciCE | 10^-1 | 7.879432023 dCE |

<5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> | Cosmic Era | 10^0 | 13.7879432023 CE |

<5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> | DecaCE | 10^1 | 1.37879432023 daCE |

<5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> | Reference | - | 137879432023 Ref. CE |

<5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> I have this atm piconeros should be 300.0 no? (assuming using 13.7879432023)

<5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> (just imagine that instead of CE there is nero and XMR)

<5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> because 2300.0 pCE would pass the 1 nCE barrier right?

<c​trej:matrix.org> the units don't make sense

<c​trej:matrix.org> what are you trying to say?

<5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> trying to get denomination table of 13.7879432023 XMR basically

<5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> .. and then replace XMR with CE because it's used to calculate years since the big bang where denomination alike is just a way to manage the large number

<5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> where it's hierarchical notation so instead of saying that i have 13787943202.3 nCE it's supposed to be 202.3 nCE

<c​trej:matrix.org> thats just normal metric prefixed tho?

<c​trej:matrix.org> nothing to do with monero?

<5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> monero does the hierarchical notation afaik so that people can like spell out e.g. Buy a hotdog for 2 decineros 5 centineros 1 milinero and 326 microneros

<5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> at least people in my local area say it that way when i use XMR

<5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> So i was thinking that it's a great idea to use for managing a large number while making it practically usable

<5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> (well people in my area would say 2 decichans 5 centichans 1 milichan and 326 microchans, but you get the point)

<5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> (well people in my area would say 2 decichans 5 centichans 1 milichan and 326 microchans, bcs Monero-chan, but you get the point)

<5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> to elaborate further it's been approximately 137879432023 years since the big bang which is impractical to use in daily life as people have to remember this long number so instead i want to do:

<5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> 13.7879432023 = CE -> 202.3 nCE

<5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> And in daily life and use omit the separator dot so that it could be used as today's year is 2023 nano CEs

<e​ndor00:matrix.org> Aside from the fact that this is massively offtopic, your table actually implies that 1 CE = 10^9 years, so you're just giving a custom name to 1 Gigayear. What you probably had in mind was 13.whatever Gy = 1 CE, as in 1 CE is 13.whatever billion years (which would still be pointless, because there's no intrinsic reason to consider the age of the universe until now as "1 era")

do i have to create address on monero-wallet-rpc with `create_address`?

or i can just use indexes?

i think i have to do that

<c​harutocafe:matrix.org> yeah, it's best if you take it to #monero-offtopic:monero.social Shane on Conduit.rs ⚡️ , but you're mistaken, your table makes no sense.

meow

<f​rightsi:waifuhunter.club> good morning

<f​rightsi:waifuhunter.club> where is the monero gui program usually saved to I forgot

which OS are you using?

<f​rightsi:waifuhunter.club> on windows

<s​omeoneelse495495:matrix.org> can explain me quickly whats going on with the CCS story ?

<s​omeoneelse495495:matrix.org> can someone explain me quickly whats going on with the CCS story ?

<s​omeoneelse495495:matrix.org> why fluffy is gone from core and why are people starting to doubt about monero's privacy on reddit

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> Hack due to surprisingly bad opsec or someone put hand in cookie jar

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> Fluffy resigned a few years ago due to some 100000$ fraud issue and problems with LE, at least from what I undersand.

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> For some reason fluff still had access to that wallet

<c​trej:matrix.org> I guess redditors stress out about moonstone research.com, a tracing company for monero. You should know the partial tracing only worked because a) the private wallet key was shared with the company (its worthless after the wallet was drained) and b) because a non standard transaction was used

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> Fluffy actually "resigned" "8 hours ago"

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> I thought he had already resigned years ago (if can find that everyone on the search engine)

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> Fluffy actually "resigned" "8 hours ago"

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> I thought he had already resigned years ago (if can find that everywhere on the search engine)

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> Fluffy actually "resigned" "8 hours ago"

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> I thought he had already resigned years ago (Can find that everywhere on the search engine)

<s​omeoneelse495495:matrix.org> alright thx for the explanations

Fluffy stepped down as lead maintainer 3 years ago or so

after the arrest wallets where he had access where swept and he was removed from repo access

but for example server infrastructure were setup by him so it wasn't easily possible to completely remove him

<f​rightsi:waifuhunter.club> image.png

<f​rightsi:waifuhunter.club> lol

I love posts like this <f​rightsi:waifuhunter.club> image.png

but funds accumulated again over time because the wallet in the ccs wasn't changed

wen real bridge

<f​rightsi:waifuhunter.club> irc doesn't support images right

they can be linked

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> Nop

<f​rightsi:waifuhunter.club> is there any other explanation for why my gui version shows as 0.18.2.2-**unknown** other than I'm being haxxed?

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> You compiled it yourself? Downloaded it on getmonero or used the package manager and if so what distribution?

no, it's just related to the build process

i looked into it once but don't remember the details, it's a harmless bug

<f​rightsi:waifuhunter.club> getmonero.org/2023/04/04/monero-GUI-0.18.2.2-released.html

<f​rightsi:waifuhunter.club> first time i used the installer, this time I just downloaded the zip and moved it to my existing Monero GUI Wallet folder

<f​rightsi:waifuhunter.club> oh, and on windows

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> Technically don't matter much (as long as there is no crap installed)

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> We got way much CVE on CPUs and Linux lately, like for example the linux dynamic linker giving root to anyone asking nicely

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> One of the Russian ransomware C&C was running Linux and got cancelled by some Ukrainian thanks to one of these CVE

<f​rightsi:waifuhunter.club> i haven't updated my arch in ages

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> Wait, you where the one for the monerogui issue, not about the CCS wallet

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> do it, don't delay

<f​rightsi:waifuhunter.club> i'll do it the next time I boot it up

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> 18.3.1 is crying now, are you happy now?

<f​rightsi:waifuhunter.club> yeah

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> have fun updating an Arch that did not get updated for forever (be ready to boot in rescue to salvage the data in case something go wrong)

<i​ntr:envs.net> uohh..

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> Technically don't matter much (as long as there is no crap installed)

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> We got way much CVE on CPUs and Linux lately, like for example the linux dynamic loader giving root to anyone asking nicely

<f​rightsi:waifuhunter.club> <font color="#789922">&gt;you vil updoot and you vil be happy</font>

<f​rightsi:waifuhunter.club> I haven't updated it in a month

I gave up on arch. get behind on updates, forget trying to catch up.

<f​rightsi:waifuhunter.club> i think if you don't update for a few months your signature will expire, and then you have to go through the trouble of renewing that before you can actually update your system

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> That is one of the possible thing that go wrong yeah

<i​ntr:envs.net> hyc: it's not that bad (anymore)

<i​ntr:envs.net> update archlinux-keyring first and you should be good

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> Do you have the shirt?

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> redbubble.com/i/t-shirt/btw-I-use-Arch-by-archdesigner/34777640.FB110

Just to show how dark the jungle is out there, some novel passive "attack" on SSH keys: eprint.iacr.org/2023/1711.pdf

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> Someone click the link first for me :)

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> eprint.iacr.org is safe

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> It's like for science papers and stuff like that afaik

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> can always run it in a disposable qube

Yup. The famous German IT security blogger "fefe" commented about this: "Maybe consider cultivating roses instead?"

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> Hmm

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> I’ll turn lockdown mode just incase its pegasus :0

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> Can we try proxychains on Luigi’s pc?

<r​ucknium:monero.social> rbrunner: The conference proceedings where that paper is published is Computer and Communications Security (CCS). Ominous?

<o​ortcloud42> regarding arch updates, i have a script that does unattended upgrades every couple of hours on my daily driver laptop and it's surprisingly stable

the last time Loveras proposal went to funding the CCS broke reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/112yke…ding_required_page_technical_issues

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> lovera stole the moneyz

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> we warned them to not pay him 2$ an hour!

<n​aphtha:kyun.host> he dindu nuffin

<n​aphtha:kyun.host> he a good boy

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> for those wondering, Lovera has some great spanish/monero content, heres a video about featherwallets new seed brute force (for when your paper backup is damaged slightly) yewtu.be/watch?v=_FckbyRj89s

<n​aphtha:kyun.host> dont use yewtube its my datamining honeypot

<t​isktisk:monero.social> That's why it's down half the time I try to use it🤔🤔

<n​aphtha:kyun.host> are you saying kyun has frequent downtime?

<n​aphtha:kyun.host> well youre right because half of the issen vms are about to go down because im transferring them to another node

<t​isktisk:monero.social> I would never

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> Use piped

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> When it works

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> :/

<i​ntr:envs.net> invidious > piped