<s​usguy446:matrix.org> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…matrix.org/HTOsDxHwUSmayBLPmXKGXfdY

<s​usguy446:matrix.org> makes sense

<j​ordan_sanchez:matrix.org> Windows, not even once (says me a window user (unfortunately for now)).

<j​ordan_sanchez:matrix.org> *To Clarify, Windows past Windows 7.

<j​ordan_sanchez:matrix.org> Windows 7, and Before were good.

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<p​olar9669:matrix.org> You have any doubt?

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<b​asses:matrix.org> disabled that spyware in group policy

<b​asses:matrix.org> literally gets a sense of all your files

<a​remor:matrix.org> Microsoft -10

<x​ygyl:matrix.org> Wouldn't Linux or BSD be the best OS to mine on? There would be less stuff to eat up CPU cycles and therefore give you a higher hashrate

<x​ygyl:matrix.org> Mining on windows or macos seems like you're intentionally giving yourself a handicap

<e​laryan:hackliberty.org> Windows and MacOS get better drivers for GPU's.

<x​ygyl:matrix.org> I suppose, but what about XMR? I know that you can use your GPU to mine it, but from my understanding it isn't effective.

<e​laryan:hackliberty.org> You will have to use your CBDC money to buy Bitcoin, then atomic swap to Monero. Then use that Monero for stuff like weed, gold, and circular economies.

<e​laryan:hackliberty.org> As someone already said, it's the good and services that matter.

<e​laryan:hackliberty.org> If there are goods and services for

<e​laryan:hackliberty.org> Monero, then there will be activity.

why would you do that rather than use your CBDC to buy computers and then mine monero

<x​ygyl:matrix.org> You have to wait for mining. I can buy monero and have it put in a dummy wallet then transfer it to my personal for comparable privacy in a fraction of the time

<x​ygyl:matrix.org> Likewise for atomic swaps

mining is and always will be permissionless. other ways of getting in, not so much

<x​ygyl:matrix.org> I agree, but if I'm getting 5¢ a day then I'm going to do something else

5c per day of current mining will be ___ worth in the dystopian future you are imagining?

<x​ygyl:matrix.org> Huh?

<x​ygyl:matrix.org> I mine, but sometimes I want XMR without having to wait

if today you mine 0.02 xmr which is worth $0.05, how much will 0.02 xmr be worth in a dystopian future?

<x​ygyl:matrix.org> I don't care about what it *might* be worth *eventually*, I care about what it's worth *now*

thats the wrong way to think about it

buying a computer to mine is essentially buying a bond

or a dividend paying stock

<x​ygyl:matrix.org> I agree

<x​ygyl:matrix.org> However, I don't have the money for a dedicated mining rig

<x​ygyl:matrix.org> I would want nothing more than to have a PC mining 24/7, but currently that's a 930 H/s Thinkpad that gives me next to nothing. If I want some monero, then I'm going to buy it, have it deposited in a dummy wallet, transfer it to my main, then use it for the thing I want to get

<x​ygyl:matrix.org> Reality isn't always permissive to our preferred methods

you should look into selling goods and services for xmr

<x​ygyl:matrix.org> Where could I do that?

<x​ygyl:matrix.org> Or what sites would you recommend?

moneromarket.io is a marketplace for goods

<x​ygyl:matrix.org> Thank you

there are some telegram channels: t.me/MoneroMarketplace and t.me/MoneroJobs

<e​laryan:hackliberty.org> Goddamn it, don't they know Telegram is kyc? You need a phone to use it, and the desktop app is pure bloat.

when these things were made, telegram was the only option supporting group chats

feel free to try to convince people to migrate somewhere else

<x​ygyl:matrix.org> Why is KYC such a big deal? If I sell something, put that XMR in account A, then transfer it to account B, wouldn't that protect me?

if the guy you sold it to was a fed, then the feds know YOU sold it

if theres no KYC, then the feds only know SOMEBODY sold it

<x​ygyl:matrix.org> fortunately I'm not selling anything illegal

like that ever stopped them

<x​ygyl:matrix.org> the feds can have fun knowing I sold a bike or my old xbox

better report that on your income taxes

<x​ygyl:matrix.org> touché

<x​ygyl:matrix.org> I rescind my previous statement

just use telegram chats as a meet-n-greet. discuss actual deals elsewhere

<x​ygyl:matrix.org> where would you recommend? Encrypted matrix chats?

i like simpleX for maximum plausible deniability

it all depends on your use case really

<b​asses:matrix.org> simplex.chat

if youre doing something that requires a higher level of trust you might want to meet face to face a couple times

you should look for crypto meetups in your area

form local networks

<x​ygyl:matrix.org> Maybe mining is the way to go...

ideally you should look into all options

thats how the alternate economy comes to be

<x​ygyl:matrix.org> To be honest, I'm concerned that my naïveté will cause me to mess something up

practice opsec when you do everyday shit in the normal economy

example - see if you can buy something with no way of tracking you were ever there

think about all the ways somebody could prove you were in a place and bought a thing, and see how youd avoid that

<x​ygyl:matrix.org> Do you have any resources for learning all of this?

<x​ygyl:matrix.org> I don't just want to partake; I want to understand how it all works

not really, i just do it on my own. but funny you ask im trying to get a podcast started around this kinda thing

<x​ygyl:matrix.org> I'd listen

<b​asses:matrix.org> github.com/jermanuts/bad-opsec

<b​asses:matrix.org> .

if you know any middle aged russian people, ask them how they did things during the ussr

<x​ygyl:matrix.org> I've read some things like that. From what I've seen, if you just shut up then you'll be fine.

black markets made life possible

<x​ygyl:matrix.org> What VPN would y'all recommend?

i use proton but again depends on your use case

<x​ygyl:matrix.org> I currently use AirVPN because of port-forwarding

<x​ygyl:matrix.org> RIP Mullvad 😔

if you need true anon activity then probably use i2p not a vpn

<x​ygyl:matrix.org> Do regular torrents work on i2p?

you cant reach the clearnet on i2p under normal circumstances, but there are torrent networks in there

<x​ygyl:matrix.org> do you know of any i2p torrent trackers?

<b​asses:matrix.org> privacyguides.org/en/vpn

<b​asses:matrix.org> they are good too

<b​asses:matrix.org> heard they are blocking Italian users

<b​asses:matrix.org> check their forum

tracker2.postman.i2p

<x​ygyl:matrix.org> Man I really shouldn't be using the same username for everything

<b​asses:matrix.org> yes

<x​ygyl:matrix.org> I'll get to changing them eventually

<b​asses:matrix.org> Use keepassXC

<x​ygyl:matrix.org> already do

<b​asses:matrix.org> good

i use the same username for things because i never break any laws

<x​ygyl:matrix.org> winkwink

hi all, where I can find information about local user groups/meetings in the UK, looked around the gentmonero.org but did not see anything.

is meetup.com a thing there?

to be hones I am ditching everything that stands in the middle any services including meetup.com gmail outlook icloud etc

so that's not an option

And I mean everything, will see hot it will go

huh?

so... irc. and asking strangers on irc

bye!

You do not think logically, there is no strangers, but like minded individuals

asking people to point you to a resource is a middle man

and that resource is itself a middle man

and if your only answer to people who give you helpful replies is to say "nuh uh im not using that"

then dont waste our time with your stupid question

I wonder why there is always shortage of hands lol

the question is downright blunt and straight

as was the answer

not my problem you dont like it

thats the answer

waste of time like anywhere in any IRC, that's the culture of IRC have nice time.

rofl

you got a helpful answer in less than 10 seconds

and you were immediately a fuckin dick to me about it

so guess what, YOURE the problem here

dont let the door hit you on the way out

so snex can't work in customer facing roles, noted

actually that was my first job out of college. one day the boss calls me into his office. im like "ok definitely getting fired." he tells me the customers love me and im getting a huge raise

but it was tech support for a niche product not generic normie shit