<a​remor:matrix.org> With decoys, there are usually 2 outputs? And therefore, when you sweep a UTXO, it sticks out like a sore thumb?

<a​remor:matrix.org> Likewise, when multiple utxos are spent together, they effectively defeat any decoys concerning those UXTOs because the joint spend is obviously the real spend?

<s​omerandomguy> wtf did i miss

literally everything

13.7 billion years ago, the universe came into existence

<s​omerandomguy> tldr?

<s​omerandomguy> on a scale of 1 to 10, how much drama was there while i was gone?

finally it expanded enough for stars to form

<s​omerandomguy> uh oh

<s​omerandomguy> also whast the tldr

<s​omerandomguy> legit

5 billion years ago our solar system coalesced from a supernova

<s​omerandomguy> also whats the tldr

<s​omerandomguy> oh no

i dont know when you left

<s​omerandomguy> oh uh

around 3 billion years ago, life formed (we dont know how yet)

<s​omerandomguy> i was last here like 2 days ago

<s​omerandomguy> and i came back to you burning some guy

oh thats just normal

<s​omerandomguy> oh

<s​omerandomguy> why you burn him tho

he asked for help, i gave help, then he was a dick about it

<s​omerandomguy> O O F

<s​omerandomguy> that is a veritable 2x OOF

is anyone atm project working?

"any atm" sorry for my english

this is being developed atm.monero.is

oh he left :(

thank you

this is a future project.i want  to buy one and to use in my shop!

a real one not theory

siren stnby, makeleio wants to buy an assembled monero atm / plug and play no manuals, just freedom

<s​tnby:kernal.eu> 2 or 1 way one? KYC requirements? Budget?

no kyc

budget you know better

1way no problem

<x​fedex:matrix.org> why does monero-wallet-cli --generate-from-keys require private view key?

<x​fedex:matrix.org> can't it be recovered from spend key?

<x​fedex:matrix.org> how do i get private view key from spend key

I know that valdracs monero wallet sdk only requires spend key to restore a wallet

<e​ndor00:matrix.org> In the beginning, Monero key/wallet generation was non-deterministic, so it would generate the two private keys independently

<x​fedex:matrix.org> ok, but why its still asking view key

<x​fedex:matrix.org> akahow can i derive view key from spend key manually?

<e​ndor00:matrix.org> Because the software has no idea if your keys were generated with the new deterministic process, or if they weren't (in which case you *must* provide both, otherwise you can't recover the wallet)

<e​ndor00:matrix.org> So it asks for both

<x​fedex:matrix.org> how can i derive view key from spend key manually?

<e​ndor00:matrix.org> You should recover from the seed, if you can

<x​fedex:matrix.org> i can't

<x​fedex:matrix.org> i lost seed, only have spend key and address

Thanks endor, yes, "deterministic" wallet rings a bell

Nothing new/specific to monero wallet sdk*

<e​ndor00:matrix.org> Then you need to look for a wallet software that has the option to regenerate the view key from the spend key using the deterministic process

<e​ndor00:matrix.org> Or, alternatively, look for a script/something that can do that for you

<e​ndor00:matrix.org> (There are probably some tools in some library somewhere, but I don't recall which/where off the top of my head)

<e​ndor00:matrix.org> Oh, Feather wallet should be able to do that I think

<e​ndor00:matrix.org> (or at least, I see that option in version 2.4.9 - but it should be in the latest as well)

<x​fedex:matrix.org> wait, view key can be derived from spend key via keccak256?

<e​ndor00:matrix.org> Create a new wallet -> Restore wallet from keys -> Wallet type: Spendable -> Paste your spend key and main address

<e​ndor00:matrix.org> Better use Feather wallet and keep things offline

<e​ndor00:matrix.org> (Or at the very least: avoid pasting your private spend key into a *web browser* if you can)

<x​fedex:matrix.org> i dont see option to derive view key from spend key from that site

<x​fedex:matrix.org> but maybe im blind

I think theres another page on that site, i cant remember the path

(ymmv, i didnt look before sending)