is that an exchange ?

<o​frnxmr:agoradesk.com> Basicswapdex.com

<o​frnxmr:agoradesk.com> Atomic swaps, both directions, xmr ltc, btc, firo and particl... mainnet, pruned nodes (or remote for monero), full (obv) non custodial wallets, includes ltc mweb etc. ram about 1gb/chain, runs on android even

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> whats monero liquidity currently like?

<o​frnxmr:agoradesk.com> maybe 15xmr for ltc <> xmr

<o​frnxmr:agoradesk.com> I dont have btc configured on this install, so not sure how btc looks atm

<o​frnxmr:agoradesk.com> Btc <> xmr *

<o​frnxmr:agoradesk.com> 140.85 or 1.7% is best offer rn to buy xmr with ltc

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> pretty good

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> considering how there is no install-less version yet

<a​kuck47:matrix.org> KurisutiNaaaaaaaa

<l​uckyfindings:matrix.org> checkout this script for linux installer github.com/bacoinin/Basic-Swap-installation-script

<l​uckyfindings:matrix.org> checkout this script for install github.com/bacoinin/Basic-Swap-installation-script

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> Yeah but having to install anything is a big point of friction

<l​uckyfindings:matrix.org> also, they have a windows and i think a macOS installer.

<l​uckyfindings:matrix.org> Been trying to find the time to learn how to make an appimage specifically for BasicSwap.

<l​uckyfindings:matrix.org> Particl's ecosystem is pretty based. Bidirectional swaps being incorporated in their decentralized marketplace will be hugeeee

<l​uckyfindings:matrix.org> ik, us smooth brains just want something simple... I've been yapping about this for a while

<l​uckyfindings:matrix.org> Its in the works according to their dev log in their Matrix channel

<l​uckyfindings:matrix.org> BasicSwap and FiroDEX are some of my faves.

<l​uckyfindings:matrix.org> I think Haveno will be part of this Holy Triad

<l​uckyfindings:matrix.org> BasicSwap and FiroDEX are some of my faves.

<l​uckyfindings:matrix.org> I think Haveno will finish the Holy Triad of privacy DEX's

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> What does firo dex do

2024 chainalysis crypto crime report is out. anyone download it yet?

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> The last one didn't even attempt to look at monero so why bother ;)

lol

they're including FTX fraud in crytp crime totals now

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> Lmao

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> Now it has 39 mentions of monero and all are about csam

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> Yeah, CSAM is the new excuse

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> Because they can't really track DNMs anymore

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> And csam is way worse anyways

<l​uckyfindings:matrix.org> more or less an upgrade of Komodo (if you have ever used it.. based on litecoin) but FiroDEX has more options with privacy coins.

<l​uckyfindings:matrix.org> It's got an appimage which I LOVEEEE!!` <3

<l​uckyfindings:matrix.org> They are an AtomicDEX that offers conversion with Firo. I use it to convert ETH coins into Firo to try and avoid the fees on UniSwap and Pancake.

<l​uckyfindings:matrix.org> From Eth --> Firo which gives me a pivot to Particl's Ecosystem and Monero's usually for a lower fee

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> If the csam vendors go monero only they suddenly won't report on them either

"Some forms of illicit cryptocurrency activity, such as darknet market sales and ransomware extortion, still

take place predominantly in Bitcoin.2"

"2

These estimates do not include privacy coins like Monero."

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> Yeah they stopped thay

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> Because they can't trace it

<l​uckyfindings:matrix.org> you cannot estimate what you cannot see.

lol

<l​uckyfindings:matrix.org> well.. you can... you may be wayyyyyyyyyyyy off though.

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> So it confirm Monero already won, and we don't have Seraphis yet :D

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> It's funny how monero is the bad guy when someone buys csam with Bitcoin

<l​uckyfindings:matrix.org> ^^Based^^

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> Maybe the instant exchangers need to buy a chainalysis subscription

They're reporting that stablecoins are now the majority of crypto crime. and then "However, stablecoin issuers can freeze funds when they

become aware of their illicit use, as Tether recently did with addresses linked to terrorism and warfare in

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> So they can protect monero from pedos swapping into it

Israel and Ukraine."

<l​uckyfindings:matrix.org> Does monero have NFT's?

as usual, the majority of people who use crypto are morons

<l​uckyfindings:matrix.org> did i miss a whole bit??

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> It was a proof of concept

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> And achieved it's goal

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> Someone didn't like how tx_extra is a nearly unlimited arbitrary data storage

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> hyc : They just touch crypto for number go up

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> Or they just brought the MSM poop.

<j​ordan_sanchez:matrix.org> Crypto is money after all, so just based off distribution what HYC said is true with probability.

ransomeware totals for 2023 $1.1B and whole teams of FBI are dedicated to chasing them down

elon musk profits of hundreds of $billions, nobody cares

<b​asses:matrix.org> CSAM sellers are retarded (thank god)

<b​asses:matrix.org> and DNM gets busted if they smoke their shit

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> You need to run a DNM like a regular software company

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> And dip out after 2 years max

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> And retire to a non extradition country

<j​ordan_sanchez:matrix.org> Most are honeypots, let’s be honest.

<b​asses:matrix.org> never visited them so idk lol

<j​ordan_sanchez:matrix.org> The Darkweb is a funny place, I just check to see how poorly the feds are running operations with their illicit activities fronts like drugs, & guns.

<l​uckyfindings:matrix.org> well, you can treat utility tokens like stock.. or a stake. That saying most crypto maxi's dont know the importance of staking, mining or the fundamentals of consensus with DAO governance... Only caring about stonks up, green and right.

<l​uckyfindings:matrix.org> If you're treating crypto like a stock. Make sure the utility behind can scale, You're not just HODL'ing but also mining or staking... participating in governance.

<l​uckyfindings:matrix.org> If Maxi's do those things.. They can for sure treat it like a stock/investment.. can even treat it as a form of government.

<l​uckyfindings:matrix.org> The majority of crypto Maxis are the traditional shareholder capitalists encroaching and misunderstanding the domain of decentralized stakeholder capitalism.

<l​uckyfindings:matrix.org> Eth Layer 2's (Layer 1's aswell but pale incomparison) is getting bombarded with projects being built with special interest. Proprietary offchaining with delegation that is incredibly Centralized and gatekeeped.

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> 97% of the ETH tokens are confirmed scams lol

<b​asses:matrix.org> what methodology you follow to find if they are so?

100% look like scams

<j​ordan_sanchez:matrix.org> I don’t engage, or really break down any particular things but most just are designed in a way that looks very poor, and questionable.

<j​ordan_sanchez:matrix.org> If they have BTC, credit cards, or some other identifiable thing then I will just assume they’re ran by the U.S. government.

<j​ordan_sanchez:matrix.org> I agree with great taste.

<j​ordan_sanchez:matrix.org> Most of TOR is owned, and operated by Feds to disguise their network traffic, and to catch people engaging in questionable practices.

<j​ordan_sanchez:matrix.org> That being said if one was to engage in questionable practices I think tools like Monero are most likely organic dealers or morally questionable goods, and services like drugs, and guns, etc.

<j​ordan_sanchez:matrix.org> I’m sure you could probably tell by the website code since a lot of the scammy/gov ones tend to have similar web layouts.

<b​asses:matrix.org> agree

<l​uckyfindings:matrix.org> Agreed. ETH is a fundamental backbone for the POC's of DePIN which have proven even to old boomers that crypto can provide benefit to physical infrastructure.

<l​uckyfindings:matrix.org> Just sucks that a lot of them are scammy.

<l​uckyfindings:matrix.org> Helium was in that scam camp for a while before they merged to solana to combat scalability issues.

<l​uckyfindings:matrix.org> (solana is very centralized from its foundation... As being funded by private banks trying to get in on crypto... The irony as they were resisting crypto during DeFi 2020...)

<l​uckyfindings:matrix.org> The POC of running a mesh of decentralized cell towers/WAN gateways is actually awesome for citys and rural areas...

<l​uckyfindings:matrix.org> putting security aside and the fact that arguably the largest DePIN project is based on a blockchain backed by the same proof of debt network from private banks...

<l​uckyfindings:matrix.org> People actually got their 5G routers (actually 4G.. And the Devs purposley wrote a blog explaining the marketing behind this... once again. Kinda sus and scammy.. But not a full scam) this time and it seems to be working as intended.

<l​uckyfindings:matrix.org> Great POC for mesh networks.. Just sucks that layer 2 ETH protocols has A LOT of issues in this regard.

<l​uckyfindings:matrix.org> RavFX 🤐:

<l​uckyfindings:matrix.org> Agreed that most of them are Scams. ETH is a fundamental backbone for the POC's of DePIN which have proven even to old boomers that crypto can provide benefit to physical infrastructure.

<l​uckyfindings:matrix.org> Just sucks that a lot of them are scammy.

<l​uckyfindings:matrix.org> Helium was in that scam camp for a while before they merged to solana to combat scalability issues.

<l​uckyfindings:matrix.org> (solana is very centralized from its foundation... As being funded by private banks trying to get in on crypto... The irony as they were resisting crypto during DeFi 2020...)

<l​uckyfindings:matrix.org> The POC of running a mesh of decentralized cell towers/WAN gateways is actually awesome for citys and rural areas...

<l​uckyfindings:matrix.org> putting security aside and the fact that arguably the largest DePIN project is based on a blockchain backed by the same proof of debt network from private banks...

<l​uckyfindings:matrix.org> People actually got their 5G routers (actually 4G.. And the Devs purposley wrote a blog explaining the marketing behind this... once again. Kinda sus and scammy.. But not a full scam) this time and it seems to be working as intended.

<l​uckyfindings:matrix.org> Great POC for mesh networks.. Just sucks that layer 2 ETH protocols has A LOT of issues in this regard.

<l​uckyfindings:matrix.org> RavFX 🤐:

<l​uckyfindings:matrix.org> Agreed that most of them are Scams. ETH is a fundamental backbone for the POC's of DePIN which have proven even to old boomers that crypto can provide benefit to physical infrastructure.

<l​uckyfindings:matrix.org> Just sucks that a lot of them are scammy.

<l​uckyfindings:matrix.org> Helium was in that scam camp for a while before they merged to solana to combat scalability issues.

<l​uckyfindings:matrix.org> (solana is very centralized from its foundation... As being funded by private banks trying to get in on crypto... The irony as they were resisting crypto during DeFi 2020...)

<l​uckyfindings:matrix.org> The POC of running a mesh of decentralized cell towers/WAN gateways is actually awesome for citys and rural areas...

<l​uckyfindings:matrix.org> putting security aside and the fact that arguably the largest DePIN project is based on a blockchain backed by the same proof of debt network from private banks...

<l​uckyfindings:matrix.org> People actually got their 5G routers (actually 4G.. And the Devs purposley wrote a blog explaining the marketing behind this... once again. Kinda sus and scammy.. But not a full scam) this time and it seems to be working as intended.

<l​uckyfindings:matrix.org> Great POC for mesh networks.. Just sucks that layer 2 ETH protocols have A LOT of issues in this regard.

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> You need to doxe your gps coordinate for Helium still, right?

<l​uckyfindings:matrix.org> running a physical hotspot through a Proof of stake system which then gets displayed on a HexHub for coverage

<j​ordan_sanchez:matrix.org> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…matrix.org/tHtsJRJoOPOYQErJmCTtMJuA

<j​ordan_sanchez:matrix.org> I mean look at this for example.

<j​ordan_sanchez:matrix.org> No mentions of Bisq, Local Bitcoin, or Samourai wallet.

maybe they just arent aware of those things

not saying it isnt sus but the number of people i run into in this community with very narrow expertise ranges never ceases to amaze

<j​ordan_sanchez:matrix.org> Yeah, that’s fair.

<l​uckyfindings:matrix.org> heard a rumor about a particl-marketplace storefront with 3D prints for lowers, uppers... parts and selling FGC-9's.

<l​uckyfindings:matrix.org> My guess is if you want to find the Real shit. You gotta dig for it... and its not going to be on tor.

<l​uckyfindings:matrix.org> It will be on .loki or particl-marketplace.

<l​uckyfindings:matrix.org> heard a rumor about a private particl-marketplace storefront with 3D prints for lowers, uppers... parts and selling FGC-9's.

<l​uckyfindings:matrix.org> My guess is if you want to find the Real shit. You gotta dig for it... and its not going to be on tor.

<l​uckyfindings:matrix.org> It will be on .loki or particl-marketplace.

<l​uckyfindings:matrix.org> also sad to hear that session is rebranding to a less private ERC-20 token for their ecosystem :(((

<l​uckyfindings:matrix.org> I dont think that will change non paying users using session or lokinet users.

<l​uckyfindings:matrix.org> But it does add a few more equations of potentially doxing node operators which could interfere with the sybil resistance

<l​uckyfindings:matrix.org> I dont think that will change non paying users using session or lokinet

<l​uckyfindings:matrix.org> But it does add a few more equations of potentially doxing node operators which could interfere with the sybil resistance

<l​uckyfindings:matrix.org> My guess is if you want to find the Real shit. You gotta dig for it... and its not going to be on tor.

<l​uckyfindings:matrix.org> It will be on .loki or particl-marketplace.

<l​uckyfindings:matrix.org> i felt weird posting that on here so it go bye bye

<b​asses:matrix.org> cryptoshit

<b​asses:matrix.org> I hate crypto projects

<l​uckyfindings:matrix.org> also, the issue isnt about location for connection..

<l​uckyfindings:matrix.org> Celltowers and ISP's are much the same in this regard.

<l​uckyfindings:matrix.org> The problem being if im a staker and want to connect to the network i have to have my bank info connected to it.

<l​uckyfindings:matrix.org> Thats a massive trade off from conventional aspects. to a decentralized panopticon .

<l​uckyfindings:matrix.org> also, the issue isnt about location for connection..

<l​uckyfindings:matrix.org> Celltowers and ISP's are much the same in this regard.

<l​uckyfindings:matrix.org> The problem being if im a staker and want to connect to the network i have to have the equivalent of my bank info connected to it.

<l​uckyfindings:matrix.org> Thats a massive trade off from conventional aspects. to a decentralized panopticon .

<l​uckyfindings:matrix.org> same

<b​asses:matrix.org> SimpleX chat exists

luckyfindings: please quite editing your posts.

you're spamming IRC

quit*

<b​asses:matrix.org> libreddit.bus-hit.me/r/Monero/comme…sit_option_on_locamonero_kyc_or_not RavFX 🤐 This is your method to get Monero, right?

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> In some free countries you can buy sim at random convenient stores without providing p0rn and you can refill them with the monero. So that remove some of the issue.

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> I get paid for work in monero.

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> But yeah, if I want to get Monero from Localmonero, I choose bank deposit then I got to a random convenient store to do the deposit, using cash. No p0rn needed.

<b​asses:matrix.org> >No p0rn needed

<b​asses:matrix.org> ?

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> KYC is p0rn

<o​frnxmr:agoradesk.com> github.com/nahuhh/basicswap-bash/releases/tag/beta

<l​uckyfindings:matrix.org> Yes!

<l​uckyfindings:matrix.org> I am on both

<l​uckyfindings:matrix.org> SimpleX relies on a non sybil network (Tor) but no persistent ID

<l​uckyfindings:matrix.org> Session relies on a sybil network backed by a scarce (soon to be non private) token and the chat has identifiable session ID

<l​uckyfindings:matrix.org> Both offer Geo/IP Obfuscation. Thats what I mostly care about for these two.

<l​uckyfindings:matrix.org> SimpleX does have better plausible deniability because of the non-persistent ID function. MUCH better than Session

<l​uckyfindings:matrix.org> SimpleX has an actual call function that can work on a selfhosted proxy built into the software. Session uses p2p rn. This is better for privacy. Not so much anon.

<l​uckyfindings:matrix.org> Session will soon (this is a feature longgggging to be implemented) have low-latency onion routed calls. and ditching the need of p2p. This is better for anon

<l​uckyfindings:matrix.org> I am also a fan of Meshtastic and Briar for the reasons being they can operate off the need of direct exposure to traditional Communication channels through Towers and ISP's.

<l​uckyfindings:matrix.org> sorry lol

<l​uckyfindings:matrix.org> Does this negate the necessity of downloading the monero blockchain thus saving storage space?!

<o​frnxmr:agoradesk.com> luckyfindings - irc alsp can not see "replies"

<o​frnxmr:agoradesk.com> Yes

<l​uckyfindings:matrix.org> LMFAO

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> is anyone else laughing here?

<o​frnxmr:agoradesk.com> And element seems to have moved/hidden the "quote" feature

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> theyve removed quote in favour of "thread" it seems which is even more irritating for irc users

I am. "dont reply or edit" > Spelling errors and replies from notofrnxnr 🤣

<a​lex:agoradesk.com> localmonero.co/the-monero-standard/weekly/95

<b​asses:matrix.org> quote feature?

<b​asses:matrix.org> I just use ">"

<b​asses:matrix.org> IRC sucks

<b​asses:matrix.org> Matrix >>

<l​uckyfindings:matrix.org> I posted in Haveno a bit ago but i'll ask here aswell since "Monero"

<l​uckyfindings:matrix.org> Is that project still in testnet or is it now functioning with live transactions?

<a​lex:agoradesk.com> Still testing, but getting close to release.

<l​uckyfindings:matrix.org> tHeY cAnT rEaD wHaT yOu SaiD bEcuz IRC suCKs

No, matrix is broken

<l​uckyfindings:matrix.org> NEO would agree.

<b​asses:matrix.org> Matrix or Element cuz people often confuse between both

the bridge bot is whats broken

<o​frnxmr:agoradesk.com> No

<o​frnxmr:agoradesk.com> threads and replies arent formatted in compatible way

<o​frnxmr:agoradesk.com> matrix <>libera bridge was killed because matrix had issues

if a matrix client can do it, then so can an irc bridge bot

Can do what? Revoke and spam?

Cuz thats what matrix does - resends entire messages

<e​laryan:hackliberty.org> IRC 3.0 has some edition feature, I think.

can send the message