<1​23bob123:matrix.org> Lol

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> Organic crisis

man oh man. all these txs make the log level 1 super spammy

just all "Including transaction"...

<s​nowman:tetaneutral.net> Is the organic growth locally grown

y do ppl use tor exit nodes for monero remote nodes when onion monero nodes exist

so im running this: github.com/Gingeropolous/p2r2n_defender , and im looking up IPs on the blacklist, and so far like 90% are tor exit nodes

<j​ack_ma_blabla:matrix.org> shh no crisis everything is working as expected

<j​ack_ma_blabla:matrix.org> not enough public .onion nodes ?

<b​asses:matrix.org> vik (Cake): Why there are google trackers on monero.com ?

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> Ask our resident google expert

i love how txstreet crashes my firefox

<v​ikrants:monero.social> Oh.. will ask team to look

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> plausible.io

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> Alt

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> Just got another speculation lol

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> Same thinking as my yesterday one, state actor buying it

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> But instead, they do the spam so we don't see there actual TXs

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> They could have increased the amount of real TX by like 5 or 10% but all we see is spam

<b​asses:matrix.org> or umami.is

Median block size dropped from 400 to 359 kB

did the spam stop or slow down for a bit or what happened?

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…ero.social/dqGQBUuQlhCmAvtJeXOftqOe

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> Yep, today it's been quite "silent"

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> Granted, blocks are like 100kb bigger so...

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> monero-project/monero #8134 just saw this on xmrchain

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> what a wholesome conclusion

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> wow

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> >3XMR fees

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> People where really nice to him considering the pool probably already paid the miner at that point

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> it did

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> someone donated the tx fee that was lost

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…ero.social/TcWjcyFincadqzaQJeZMVCVl

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> Oh, we mooning

<e​ndor00:matrix.org> Interesting - now we have the usual 1in-2out txes at the base fee, plus a whole bunch of 146in-2out txes at the next (!) fee level

the spammer got frustrated that the median block size dropped

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> Yeah, I just noticed too

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146/2 consolidations at higher fee level have happened a couple of times in the past week

wouldnt 146/2 likely be p2pool miners sweeping?

not always

it is easy to detect p2pool sweeps

<r​ucknium:monero.social> The one has a nonstandard fee computation, right? xmrchain.net/search?value=81267ba6a…0dc5819914a2b5d3d9636cd648e4c4a119e

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> just check that all ring have at least one 0/random decoys and that theyre all non overlapping

<r​ucknium:monero.social> 1in/2out , but in the mempool for about 5 hours

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> I checked a few of them, totally confirm it's not p2p mining consolidation

<b​asses:matrix.org> Interesting post about Light wallets insecurities (MyMonero and Edge)

<b​asses:matrix.org> discuss.privacyguides.net/t/android-crypto-wallet/17196/24

if you run your own light wallet server you can enjoy the benefits of a light wallet without privacy loss

but it's not easy to setup yet

im not understanding, how is a light wallet different from the cli wallet pointed at a remote node?

because the wallet scanning is done server side and not client side

which means you can open your wallet after a month and don't have to do any wallet scanning on your phone

ah

sounds scary tbh

just open your phone wallet every few days or so

not really if it's your own server

the spend key stays on the client so your funds can't be stolen

just having the server open tells the world you have monero

you could run a local vpn and lock it behind the LAN but most people dont wanna do stuff like that

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> snex: Connecting to a node (be your wallet server or just your normal wallet) also tell your ISP (and state, if they are sharing)

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> Use decent VPN.... and/or tor/i2p!

running a node doesnt mean you have monero. and my node is behind my LAN

so any connections i make remotely would have to go through my local vpn

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> snex: It might not say that you have monero or how much you are using it, but it still say that you are somewhat involved)

thats why you should also run servers that emit fake traffic for other projects

throw them off!

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> Or use anon network?

your isp can tell youre using the anon network, though not what for

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> Just run the whole kitchen sink

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> Have fun finding the one you actually use for real

i2p should be part of the kernel network stack fite me

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> Have all different crypto nodes, but only use xmr

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> Node decoy

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> That work too

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> Or use plowsof one, so they arrest plowsof 😬

one thing i dont understand about monero, why isnt it possible to trace tx to private nodes by finding the first node to broadcast it

(ok one of the many things)

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> If you use someone else node without tor/i2p

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> They see you connect to someone else 18081/18089 therefor you are using monero ;)

even your own node is identifiable

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> Yeah, but they if you only connect/receive 18080 and receive 18081/9 they can see that you are involved somehow but afaik they don't know when you are txing when you use your node (if it's local and so don't connect to someone else 18081/9

the isp doesnt know, but it seems to me that it could be traced by the network itself if it wanted to

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> Just update the protocol so it use port 443 with selfsigned cert or something.

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> That's going to force them to use deep packet inspection

not everyone can run over 443

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> They found me!

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> I think vtnerd was looking at cert thing

in fact even if you can run over 443 but you already host a website, its going to be a minor pain in the ass to run a monero node there too

<r​ucknium:monero.social> snex: "why isnt it possible to trace tx to private nodes by finding the first node to broadcast it" Dandelion++ is supposed to prevent this. It's not perfect, but it's pretty good.

<b​asses:matrix.org> homie did nothing

<l​akshmana:matrix.org> Monero is top 1 searched and number 1 trending on KuCoin

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> What about google

what number is KuCoin

<b​radelig:matrix.org> I wonder if it is possible to use reverse proxy (nginx for example) to have both websites and Monero node running on a 443 port given different hostnames involved?

<y​asabi:matrix.org> this is one reason it's best not to host a private node but a public one, it increases your privacy if others are broadcasting from your node as well

<y​asabi:matrix.org> also you shouldn't host nodes on the same box as a website, as a compromise in the latter could make the former vulnerable

<y​asabi:matrix.org> unless you properly containerize the different services and put a reverse proxy infront of them, in which case the port 443 issue shouldnt be a problem. tho this adds complexity which is also risky

<b​radelig:matrix.org> the point isn't in using 1 device to host all services but to route traffic for both website and Monero node via same IP:port

<y​asabi:matrix.org> that's not really how ports work

<b​radelig:matrix.org> this is how it works with sslh for example)

<y​asabi:matrix.org> you could probably make it work with something like xinetd but TCP/IP is designed for one process on one port

<y​asabi:matrix.org> yea there are hacky solutions but they raise the complexity again, and are also very niche which invariably means they're less vetted

bradelig - yes reverse proxy would be necessary

<b​radelig:matrix.org> so it is possible? what I am asking is have anyone done that already and what their experience was/is

i havent with monero specifically but with other services

once you get how it works its straightforward to repeat

<b​radelig:matrix.org> afaik monero is HTTP based but not sure

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> Yeah, reverse proxy would work

<a​leenor:matrix.org> which is the best choice to do this these days? both server and client-side

the rpc service is. dont know about the other magic

<y​asabi:matrix.org> rpc is http, p2p is not

RPC supports SSL

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> Yest. I used my own self sight

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> Sign*

<s​gp_:monero.social> Added Cryptomus and ForgingBlock MAGICGrants/getmonero.dev #11

guys, you have been lying to me all along. monero was created to be AML compliant: twitter.com/SRIS2023/status/1767664897783947299

<e​laryan:hackliberty.org> wut? dumping my bags now.

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> well

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> it is compliant

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> you can share your viewkey and keyimages if you want to

you can share your spend key too

you can also hand me your gold and ask me to promise i wont steal it

<p​reland:matrix.org> Sometimes I question whether people have brain cells

<p​reland:matrix.org> The one person trying to claim Monero wasn’t compliant makes literally no sense; even if they were mistaken and thought Monero was unviewable or was completely transparent, it still wouldn’t make sense

u wot

the fact that i can voluntarily disclose my holdings of some asset does not make that asset inherently AML compliant

to think that it is makes the idea incoherent, as i can do this with EVERY asset

<u​nkn8wn69:matrix.org> Incognito?

<j​ack_ma_blabla:matrix.org> so any idea where these organic growth in transaction is coming from ?

<p​reland:matrix.org> It was my brother; sorry guys he thought my wallet was a cookie clicker

<j​ack_ma_blabla:matrix.org> so have you taken away your wallet or he is going to still do what he was doing

Proof of Click

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> New one

<p​reland:matrix.org> Introducing the brand new Ant Miner mouse (capable of up to 100MC/s)

<j​ack_ma_blabla:matrix.org> seems he is owning 80% of outputs consistently from last few days

<j​ack_ma_blabla:matrix.org> i hope he doesnt drop his wallet keys to public lol

<p​reland:matrix.org> Ngl it would be an interesting thought experiment if someone were to deposit 1XMR in a wallet and reveal the public key, and see what happens (assuming the boring move of someone just immediately taking it all and dipping out doesn’t happen)

thats exactly what would happen

<j​ack_ma_blabla:matrix.org> they just need to drain the wallet before making keys public & transaction done during this period are fucked up lol

<a​ndrewjackson:matrix.org> Coincards just became available in Australia, that could have given transactions a boost

<j​ack_ma_blabla:matrix.org> yes millions of australians waiting to spend their xmr, pump up the transaction volume

<a​mbitiouslemming:matrix.org> I saw a video that explained how Incognito Market is currently exit scamming and trying to extort vendors and buyers. They had been a dual Bitcoin/Monero dark market.

<j​ack_ma_blabla:matrix.org> yah they are doing 1/2 transactions leaving a large footprint before they merge the outputs

<j​ack_ma_blabla:matrix.org> yah they are doing 1 in 2 out transactions leaving a large footprint before they merge the outputs

<j​ack_ma_blabla:matrix.org> its all organic and we should chill

<a​ndrewjackson:matrix.org> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…matrix.org/ptQVUZyIZxGbrvzWgSgeyUQQ

<a​ndrewjackson:matrix.org> If the "spammer" is alive, it's organic

<a​nonimauzanto:matrix.org> Are there current recommendations for the cheapest hosting company for a dedicated public node?

<e​ekk:matrix.org> The fees are being paid by the attacker's wallet, which is just a thing, not a person. Hah, gotcha!

<j​ack_ma_blabla:matrix.org> so you think its a spammer ?

<j​ack_ma_blabla:matrix.org> ovh or scaleway ?

<a​ndrewjackson:matrix.org> Then why is Roman been found guilty? his wallet did it!

sorry guys, Cat feel asleep on the enter key

archive.is/Qci5M Crypto ‘Mixer’ Convicted of Money Laundering on Bitcoin Fog

imagine using bitcoin to buy drugs

<e​ekk:matrix.org> There are countless crypto alternatives out there, each claiming different benefits. I personally opted for Monero due to its practical approach in becoming digital, untraceable money. However, I acknowledge the concerns raised by recent activity on the chain and its potential implications.

<e​ekk:matrix.org> With that said, let's not rush into anything just yet. It's crucial that we gather more information before making any drastic decisions. Firstly, it's worth noting that although transaction fees may appear low, it's because transactions now take up significantly less space compared to years ago. Additionally, the attacker seems to be losing ground; otherwise, they wouldn't have al<clipped message>

<e​ekk:matrix.org> lowed the median of the last 100 blocks to be recalculated so many times.

<e​ekk:matrix.org> Secondly, the black marbles attack isn't a definitive solution to de-anonymize users. While it enhances the likelihood of educated guesses regarding spend outputs, it doesn't conclusively prove them. And most importantly, it never reveals any addresses or amounts.

<j​ack_ma_blabla:matrix.org> can we make fees cheaper ? we need to use it for micro transactions of 10 cent and below

<j​ack_ma_blabla:matrix.org> can we make fees cheaper ? we need to use monero for micro transactions of 10 cent and below

<h​elasse:linarphy.net> This is something i am also very interested in

<h​elasse:linarphy.net> The only "solution" i found was using a feeless coin like nano or having customers pay upfront

<j​ack_ma_blabla:matrix.org> nano is not private, i want monero for my tor based 1 cent casino website

<j​ack_ma_blabla:matrix.org> i can bring organic traffic that will help nodes build the blockchain and pump transaction numbers

<j​ack_ma_blabla:matrix.org> i can bring organic traffic that will help nodes build the blockchain size and pump transaction numbers

<j​ack_ma_blabla:matrix.org> for evey roll of dice, one monero transacation worth 1 cent

make it a 1 dollar casino instead problem solved

<j​ack_ma_blabla:matrix.org> no i am sure monero devs and artic will agree on this, more transactions the cheaper fees should go

<j​ack_ma_blabla:matrix.org> ssds are cheap everyone can go and buy 2tb drive right now

<j​ack_ma_blabla:matrix.org> network is cheaper in west

<j​ack_ma_blabla:matrix.org> remote areas dont need monero anyways

<j​ack_ma_blabla:matrix.org> they already live in a cave

if you want to do microbets, best thing is to have people create custodial accounts with a few bux in them at a time

fees are set by the market, devs have little to no control

I'm waiting for the release of Samsung's 8TB SSD

<j​ack_ma_blabla:matrix.org> microbets over blockchain is more accountable for our company

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> you dont need accounts

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> see monero.vegas

<j​ack_ma_blabla:matrix.org> cat by the time you get 8tb ssd, 32tb ssd will be in news

monero.vegas doesnt allow tiny ass bets i dont think

or maybe it does but then you are essentially paying double as fees eat you

this year with the new AMD 9000

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> Whale bets only?

<j​ack_ma_blabla:matrix.org> see 1 cent is not that cheap we get bread for 1 cent locally our ppl need to bet with 1 cent and sub micro cent level of fees

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> vegas does 0.01 bets i believe

on poker sites the smallest stakes have the largest % taken from the pot

for real just have temporary deposit accounts

<j​ack_ma_blabla:matrix.org> our pot size is 100 cents

that way they can hit slot button even faster

<j​ack_ma_blabla:matrix.org> its a dream for ppl to win it

<j​ack_ma_blabla:matrix.org> and if ppl spend more than 1 cent of monero, they will be finically ruined

<j​ack_ma_blabla:matrix.org> and if ppl spend more than 1 cent of monero fees, they will be finically ruined

<j​ack_ma_blabla:matrix.org> please for gods sake, can we make transactions cheaper ?

I collect deposit bottles at 5 cents each

<j​ack_ma_blabla:matrix.org> i pray monero goes to $10 so we can get cheaper transactions, devs will agree on this

there was even a "collect" command when monerobux was the bot

<j​ack_ma_blabla:matrix.org> cat you must be rich, 5 breads for each bottel

<j​ack_ma_blabla:matrix.org> cat you must be rich, 5 breads for each bottle

<j​ack_ma_blabla:matrix.org> cat you need to donate some cents to dev fund, make fees cheaper

I have never missed a meal except by choice so yes I am rich

bruh thats not how crypto works. dev dont make fees

<j​ack_ma_blabla:matrix.org> having meal every day is like eating with a silver spoon

do what i said or begone

<j​ack_ma_blabla:matrix.org> snakes, devs have coded the fees

<j​ack_ma_blabla:matrix.org> they can make it more cheaper

<j​ack_ma_blabla:matrix.org> snakes we need cheaper transaction fees, how can we pay transaction fee when monero hits a million and artic is right

but the Chinese are rich now

no, they didnt code the fees

<j​ack_ma_blabla:matrix.org> million dollars, i mean toilet paper dollar

market activity sets fees

<j​ack_ma_blabla:matrix.org> 99.999% are chinese are poor in debt only the ccp is rich

<j​ack_ma_blabla:matrix.org> we need cheaper fees, please we dont want to pay 100$ fee with monereo going to a million dollar next year